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2 minutes ago, LizLemon said:

 

The folder that holds the hanger used in the menu has a new folder called "events". There is a rocket model in that folder that in game is in the same location as the christmas tree.

 

Oh that's pretty cool then. I love what they did with the Christmas tree. This sounds fun too.

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On 3/28/2019 at 5:28 AM, Bullets said:

 

We already have access to 6 of the Bodenplate aircraft dude haha. The map is under development and the 262 will be ready in "two weeks" be sure :salute: 

 

On 3/28/2019 at 5:22 AM, crristy19712 said:

when we will have gameplay for Bodenplate?

 

when we will try Bodenplate..someone no the date of release?

 

Curious then. PWCG 5.1 is able to create a campaign for Bodenplatte.   Is it an incomplete map?

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10 hours ago, LukeFF said:

 

They were extremely hard to destroy before. 

Yes, and I assume that was because the durability system was changed so that you'd need to use considerably lower durability for the planes etc. than before (something like 9000->1000), and many mission makers didn't update the durability values.

 

So, what are the recommended values now?

 

In addition, can we please go back to how it used to be, i.e. that you could set a durability value high enough that you couldn't destroy static blocks with 20 mm cannons?

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7 hours ago, Venturi said:

Well, they did put the first satellite in space, and the first man.

Of course, we put the first man in orbit, and the first man on the moon. (Debatable amongst some people, I know... :P)

The first flight into space was the first orbital flight.
Therefore, Gagarin was both the first man in space and the first in orbit.
Flight of A. Shepard (second flight into space) was suborbital.

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19 hours ago, Sneaksie said:

Dear friends,

 

The small 3.012b update has been released just now:

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- Fw 190 A-5 and A-8: engine thermal model corrected
- Bf 109 K-4: 4K textures created by Martin =ICDP= Catney added to the game
 

Niiiice!

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11 hours ago, WWSitttingDuck said:

 

 

Curious then. PWCG 5.1 is able to create a campaign for Bodenplatte.   Is it an incomplete map?

PWCG uses one of the existing maps. 

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5 hours ago, Gavrick said:

The first flight into space was the first orbital flight.
Therefore, Gagarin was both the first man in space and the first in orbit.
Flight of A. Shepard (second flight into space) was suborbital.

 

And let's not forget in addition to the above:

The first women in space, Valentina Tereshkova.

The first space walk.

The first successful rover.

 

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12 hours ago, WWSitttingDuck said:

 

 

Curious then. PWCG 5.1 is able to create a campaign for Bodenplatte.   Is it an incomplete map?

 

I put it onto the western edge of the Stalingrad map.  A placeholder until the actual Bodenplatte map comes to be. 

 

I did use correct unit names and I renamed the airfields to be more or less right.  I also added America and Britain to WWII PWCG - medals, names, ranks, etc.  The town names are still Russian.  Not ideal but it does let you fly a campaign with every currently available Bodenplatte plane from fields with German or Dutch names flying in Western front squadrons with properly named squadron mates with the right ranks and awards ... so ... not perfect but there is enough there to have some fun,

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1 hour ago, VBF-12_Stick-95 said:

 

And let's not forget in addition to the above:

The first women in space, Valentina Tereshkova.

The first space walk.

The first successful rover.

 

And let's not forget the first automated, unmanned docking between Cosmos 186 and Cosmos 188 on October 30, 1967.

However before that date the first manual docking was made by US astronaut Neil Armstrong with Gemini 8 and an Agena target vehicle on 16 March 1966.

Sorry I digress.......

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3 hours ago, IckyATLAS said:

And let's not forget the first automated, unmanned docking between Cosmos 186 and Cosmos 188 on October 30, 1967.

However before that date the first manual docking was made by US astronaut Neil Armstrong with Gemini 8 and an Agena target vehicle on 16 March 1966.

Sorry I digress.......

 

One last digression.  The US hasn't had it's own crewed launch vehicle since 2011 and has depended on Russia's Soyuz for the last 8 years for rides to the ISS.

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17 minutes ago, VBF-12_Stick-95 said:

 

One last digression.  The US hasn't had it's own crewed launch vehicle since 2011 and has depended on Russia's Soyuz for the last 8 years for rides to the ISS.

This is really my latest digression 🙂 and the winner is .......the first mobile rover ever on another celestial body Lunokhod 1 that in 1970/71 drives on the moon for over 10 km in 10 months. Lunokhod 2 that in 1973 made over 37km in six months a record distance still valid today. And each of these rovers weighted around 800 kgs. They sent back over 100'000 pictures and about 300 panoramic images.

Curiosity is just at 20 km distance travelled, but on Mars which is another level of difficulty due to distance and signal delay that makes the teleoperation system of the Lunokhods impossible to implement.

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Opportunity rover went 45.16 km breaking the Lunakhod record for a non Earth rover, but Soviet Union/Russia has plenty of accomplishments in space. I think the Venera probes (built by Lavochkin ;) ) sending back pictures from the surface of Venus to be very impressive. 

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Was just pointing out some firsts accomplished by other than the US.  There's credit to be given for the accomplishments of all peaceful exploration of space, manned or unmanned, to a number of countries.

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12 hours ago, Gavrick said:

The first flight into space was the first orbital flight.
Therefore, Gagarin was both the first man in space and the first in orbit.
Flight of A. Shepard (second flight into space) was suborbital.

 

Gagarin did one 108min flight - some will argue if it was a complete orbit. And Glenn did three, a greater technical feat as the orbit then had to be more stable (as one orbit could be an apogee trajectory).

Anyways, it was ultimately a race to develop nuclear weapons delivery systems, born of the German V-2. Right? So I guess we can all get behind the peaceful, and more noble aspect of it. :)

 

 

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I got my first opportunity to try the new Prokhorovka map today on WoL. Overall the map is stunning, but my squad mates and I experienced some issues with fps drops and "squares" of forest/trees flashing in and out. Is anyone else having these problems with the new map?

 

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9 hours ago, =BAIT=CG_Justin said:

I got my first opportunity to try the new Prokhorovka map today on WoL. Overall the map is stunning, but my squad mates and I experienced some issues with fps drops and "squares" of forest/trees flashing in and out. Is anyone else having these problems with the new map?

 

Yes, those are known issues at the moment. Im sure they'll refine it as we get close to official release of TC.

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The first on the moon , could tell me which  is the colour of the moon when  hipotetical  jump for there or make photos or videos with a robot with their own modular sing colour data scale set ? ‘ Brown ’ minute 2’00” :

 

Or ‘Grey ‘ 

 

Yes Gavrick ! Thanks !.

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Please make new topic for "moon conspiracy" and other space things. It is interesting, but offtopic here.

 

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The Americans flew to the moon. I wonder how people doubt it.

 

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Just making a question about the colour of the moon ? .

http://www.cnsa.gov.cn/

China desvela de qué está hecha la cara oculta de la Luna

El ‘Yutu-2’ obtiene las imágenes de radar más precisas del interior lunar hasta la fecha

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Un pequeño robot chino desvela hoy, gracias a un radar que le permite explorar el subsuelo lunar, de qué está hecho el interior de la cara oculta de la Luna. El nivel de detalle no tiene precedentes y ha permitido reconstruir el pasado de nuestro satélite y localizar los escombros del impacto de un asteroide que sucedió hace 3.200 millones de años, cuando la vida en la Tierra apenas empezaba a surgir.

El 3 de enero de 2019 China se convirtió en el primer país en aterrizar con éxito en la cara no visible de la Luna, un territorio repleto de cráteres hasta ahora inexplorado por la imposibilidad de mantener una comunicación directa con la Tierra.

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La nave Chang’e 4 se posó en la cuenca Aitken, que con 2.500 kilómetros de diámetro es uno de los mayores cráteres de impacto del Sistema Solar. De las entrañas del módulo de aterrizaje salió el robot Yutu-2, que recorrió una pequeña zona de este enorme cráter dentro del cual hay muchos otros —la misión se encuentra en el Von Kármán, con 180 kilómetros de lado a lado— y encontró restos de un antiguo océano de lava que cubría todo el satélite.

La Luna se formó hace unos 4.500 millones de años, cuando un planeta del tamaño de Marte —Theia— chocó contra la Tierra y la desintegró durante unas horas. Un fragmento de Tierra se fundió con los restos de Theia y formó la Luna, que durante un tiempo estuvo cubierta por ese océano de roca fundida del que Yutu encontró indicios el año pasado.

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Composición interna de la Luna

La misión lunar Chang’e-4 lanzada por China ha servido para analizar la estructura del satélite.

Cara visible

Cara oculta

La zona de investigación es una depresión de 186 kilómetros de diámetro situada en la cara oculta. Un vehículo autónomo tomó los datos durante un breve recorrido.

Cráter Von Kármán

Composición de las capas internas

Robot Yutu-2

Regolitos

–12 m

Materiales

gruesos y rocas

–24 m

Capas alternas

de materiales

gruesos y finos

Restos de meteorito

de entre 0,5 y 2 metros de longitud

–40 m

Desconocido

Fuente: CNSA y NASA, 

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Ahora salen a la luz los datos del radar de alta frecuencia que el vehículo lleva instalado y que es el primero que se ha usado nunca para aclarar la composición detallada del subsuelo de esta zona.

“Es la primera vez que obtenemos una estructura detallada de los diferentes estratos del terreno en la cara oculta de la Luna”, explica Yan Su, investigadora de los Observatorios Nacionales de China y coautora del estudio, publicado hoy en Science Advances. La científica resalta que este tipo de estudios ayudan a conocer mejor la historia de los impactos de meteoritos y volcanismo en la Luna y pueden desvelar reservas de minerales de interés como la ilmenita, “un recurso importante” del que pueden extraerse hierro, titanio y oxígeno para abastecer la exploración humana de la Luna.

Un día en la cara oculta dura unos 14 días terrestres. La noche dura otros tantos y se alcanzan temperaturas de 170 grados bajo cero, por lo que el vehículo explorador, que funciona con paneles solares, deja de operar. Los datos publicados hoy corresponden a los dos primeros días lunares de la misión —ahora ya va por el 15º—, durante los cuales sus antenas lanzaron ondas de radio contra el suelo que penetraron en el terreno, rebotaron en los accidentes geográficos y desvelaron su composición detallada.

“Uno de los resultados más destacados es la transparencia del terreno”, resalta Elena Pettinelli, geofísica de la Universidad de Roma Tres, cuyo equipo ha colaborado en el análisis de los datos de la misión. “En la Tierra, con una frecuencia similar [500 megahercios] solo podríamos penetrar dos metros debido a la presencia de agua, que atenúa la señal”, explica la investigadora.

El radar muestra que el interior de la cara oculta de la Luna está hecho de una primera capa de terreno muy fino que llega hasta los 12 metros de profundidad. Son viejas rocas literalmente machacadas por la lluvia de meteoritos y el efecto de la radiación solar. Esta composición ha facilitado que las ondas del radar penetren mucho más que en la cara visible, donde otro robot chino hizo el mismo experimento alcanzando una profundidad de solo 10 metros. Debajo de esa primera capa hay un segundo nivel que alcanza hasta los 24 metros y donde aparecen grandes rocas de entre medio metro y dos metros de largo. Más abajo y hasta donde han podido llegar las ondas del radar —unos 40 metros— hay terreno más mezclado con capas de tierra fina y rocas.

Los investigadores creen que lo que ven en la segunda capa son los escombros levantados hace unos 3.200 millones de años por el meteorito que formó el cráter Finsen, de 72 kilómetros de diámetro y cuyo borde se toca con el Von Kármán, en el que está el robot chino. En el tercer nivel se encuentran restos de impactos más antiguos. El propio Von Kármán se formó hace unos 3.600 millones de años.

Los resultados de la misión suponen uno de los mayores éxitos hasta la fecha del programa espacial chino. Ningún otro país ha viajado con éxito a este lado del satélite y ha logrado mantener una misión durante tanto tiempo, para cuya comunicación hubo que lanzar un satélite de comunicaciones que orbita la Luna y envía los datos de la misión a la Tierra. “Esta es una tecnología que otras naciones quieren desarrollar y ellos han sido los primeros en lograrlo”, destaca Bob Grimm, experto en geología lunar del Instituto de Investigación del Suroeste (EE UU). “Los resultados obtenidos en la cara visible y ahora en la oculta demuestran que la penetración del radar depende en parte de la abundancia de hierro y titanio en el subsuelo”, añade.

"Es la primera vez en la historia que se estudia el interior de la Luna con un radar de penetración de suelo", explica Jorge Pla-García, astrofísico del Centro de Astrobiología, en Madrid. "Antes solo se habían hecho mediciones remotas por satélites, una con el Apolo 17 [1972] y otra con Kaguya [Japón, 2007], ambas con menor resolución. Uno de los descubrimientos interesantes es que se pensaba que el Von Kármán estaba lleno de los restos del impacto que formó este cráter, pero ahora vemos que casi todo se llenó con restos de otros impactos", resalta.

En este punto los científicos de la misión reconocen un contratiempo. Para penetrar más y determinar a qué profundidad está el manto lunar en esta zona hay que usar el radar de baja frecuencia, capaz de alcanzar cientos de metros bajo el suelo. Por desgracia, su diseño no fue el mejor, ya que el propio cuerpo metálico del vehículo genera interferencias que, por ahora, no permiten aclarar si las imágenes que llegan del subsuelo son reales o simple ruido. Los responsables esperan poder limpiar las mediciones para saber qué se esconde a cientos de metros bajo la cara oculta del satélite.

China ya planea una quinta misión robótica para extraer rocas y enviarlas a la Tierra y también pretende mandar un robot de exploración a Marte este año, que coincidirá con misiones similares de EE UU y Europa. Todas llevan radares para hacer el tipo de estudio que ha hecho el Yutu-2 en la Luna.

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16 minutes ago, RAY-EU said:

Just making a question about the colour of the moon ? .

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Because it is photo from monochrome navigation camera of descent module.

For examle - photo of Chang'e-3 (2013) from navigation and full-color camera.

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And, i repeat, make a new topic.

 

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@ICDP, I noticed the "Alternate Wing Camo" skin for the K-4 now has the same wing camo as the default K-4. Just curious, what is reasoning behind that?

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9 hours ago, LukeFF said:

@ICDP, I noticed the "Alternate Wing Camo" skin for the K-4 now has the same wing camo as the default K-4. Just curious, what is reasoning behind that?

 

Apologies about this guys, I will contact the devs to ensure the correct version is uploaded at some point soon.

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@Jason_Williams Just wanted to say there is a bug with the D9 if you are using the auto rpm limiter. When you get to 7500m the limiter will shut the engine down because it thinks you will break the engine, if you turn it off you get full power back and it will not break.

 

Also a side question. Is there any way of directly controlling the position of the D9 rad flaps? or is controlled by the thermostat only?

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You set the desired Temp (by guesstimation) and the thermostat then drives the cowl flap as required. Dont believe there is any method to directly control them. A set odf Translated D9 notes says 110C for the climb and 100C for the cruise

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2 hours ago, Bert_Foster said:

You set the desired Temp (by guesstimation) and the thermostat then drives the cowl flap as required. Dont believe there is any method to directly control them. A set odf Translated D9 notes says 110C for the climb and 100C for the cruise

 

Well that is a typically over engineered German way of dealing with a shortage of trained pilots!!

 

Think of the weight savings and resulting performance gains to be had, if all these systems were taken out and they just had the base plane.

 

Think of the manufacturing savings.

 

By contrast the VVS just made an engine that they could not break.

 

I want to say lol but it is not that funny.

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1 hour ago, AeroAce said:

 

Well that is a typically over engineered German way of dealing with a shortage of trained pilots!!

 

Think of the weight savings and resulting performance gains to be had, if all these systems were taken out and they just had the base plane.

 

Think of the manufacturing savings.

 

By contrast the VVS just made an engine that they could not break.

 

I want to say lol but it is not that funny.

You should give complex engine management a try, it's really not that hard to learn. Especially in planes like the d9.

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5 minutes ago, JonRedcorn said:

You should give complex engine management a try, it's really not that hard to learn. Especially in planes like the d9.

 

OMG Dont you see that I do use complex engine management.! Im talking about the game assists!!

 

 

SIGH 

 

And what u quoted me was about the real system 

 

SIGH

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12 minutes ago, AeroAce said:

 

OMG Dont you see that I do use complex engine management.! Im talking about the game assists!!

 

 

SIGH 

 

And what u quoted me was about the real system 

 

SIGH

I misread your previous comment calm down.

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Ever since I got the small update I can't play the game anymore. I press play and it shows the splash screen and the loading bar but the game crashes before it loads.

Can't even get to the main menu.

Launching from Steam if that makes a difference.

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On 4/3/2019 at 12:21 AM, Venturi said:

Gagarin did one 108min flight - some will argue if it was a complete orbit. And Glenn did three, a greater technical feat as the orbit then had to be more stable (as one orbit could be an apogee trajectory).

 

Vostok 2 (Titov) did 17 orbits - before Glenn's flight.

 

 

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17 hours ago, Legioneod said:

Ever since I got the small update I can't play the game anymore. I press play and it shows the splash screen and the loading bar but the game crashes before it loads.

Can't even get to the main menu.

Launching from Steam if that makes a difference.

Have you already tried with the standalone launcher?

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Nice! Great to hear we are including more 4K skins over time. I'd really love to see this done all the way back to the BOS planes such as LaGG3.

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16 minutes ago, Jade_Monkey said:

Nice! Great to hear we are including more 4K skins over time. I'd really love to see this done all the way back to the BOS planes such as LaGG3.

 

As I have said many times. This is our goal, but will take time.

 

Jason

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Thanks for the update.

Hopefully, all planes will receive more textures and skins. It would be amazing if some of the other textures from the community were also included someday.

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34 minutes ago, Jason_Williams said:

 

As I have said many times. This is our goal, but will take time.

 

Jason

 

Just FYI the basic Spitfire skin is still inaccurate to those used by the RAF for the duration of our campaign after January 3rd 1945 as pictured below. It should have a black nose, no belly band and Type C1 roundels. The skin that we do have with the existing roundels should feature invasion stripes on the bottom of the fuselage or fuselage and wings depending on time period - as currently marked it displays a Spitfire from May 1944 at the latest, much earlier than the time period of Battle of Bodenplatte.

 

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I dont know if is a server thing. But I just update and go to the wings of liberty and I got plenty of bugs. GPS not working, planes spawning and getting destroyed on the same spot, the turn back, map limit text when bailing...

I guess that is becuase the servers did not update or something. 

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