Microsoft Flight Sim 2020

[CanadaOne]

7 hours ago, DD_Arthur said:

 

That is a worry.  I don't mind if it's expensive....within reason....but I'm not going the subscription route.

 

To be able to fly the world with that level of accurate geographic detail, I will absolutely positively shell out.

 

It goes beyond just being a flightsim - it's an Earthsim. We'll be able to tour the world in HD in an interactive way. For me it's impossible to resist.

[DD_Arthur]

1 hour ago, CanadaOne said:

 For me it's impossible to resist.

 

Alas, the Scotsman deep within me will always cry 'Noooooooooooooooooo....................................................'

[CanadaOne]

10 hours ago, DD_Arthur said:

 

Alas, the Scotsman deep within me will always cry 'Noooooooooooooooooo....................................................'

 

And the American deep within me will cry "It's okay, I have a credit caaaaaaaaaard..................."

[Feathered_IV]

The Australian in me will say:  Just flyin’ around... where’s the sport in that??  

[Trooper117]

The British attitude in me says 'Keep calm and carry on flying, but only after you have tried a much cheaper option'...

[-332FG-Gordon200]

@unlikely_spider, @CanadaOne I'm afraid the corona virus is going to disrupt product manufacture and distribution for anything electronic for many months. Expect prices on existing inventory to rise in the coming days.

[unlikely_spider]

12 hours ago, Gordon200 said:

@unlikely_spider, @CanadaOne I'm afraid the corona virus is going to disrupt product manufacture and distribution for anything electronic for many months. Expect prices on existing inventory to rise in the coming days.

Seems logical, sadly.

 

(Sadly first for the victims, then second for the increased prices, that is)

[SeaW0lf]

This is a video regarding computer specs and the internet band. It sounds really promising.

 

 

 

[-332FG-Gordon200]

Here's a little more news regarding progress.

They expect release in October and are only now considering VR functionality. Microsoft, who brought us Windows Mixed Reality, is only now considering VR application. Video above posted by @SeaW0lf shows VR on the wish list.

 

 

[ZachariasX]

I have the impression that we will be able to have FS2020 as a one time buy with basic scenery coverage as we have them in XP etc., and as subscription models depending on the coverage quality you want.

 

Seeing all this, it will be interesting to see what LM comes up with for P3D v5. As it caters a different market it can adjust priorities accordingly, but I see a lot of sales going to people who just want sort of an up to date FSX. In order to get these customers, they will have to improve a lot and it probably will come down to how much MS plans to hurt customers with funny pricing schemes. It is doubtful that LM will go down that road, as it is obvious that a lot of professional sim rigs are offline installations.

[SeaW0lf]

Xbox Game Pass is just $14? I wouldn't mind paying for that, even if only for MFS 2020. I imagine that the general aviation community would not as well, since right now people pay hundreds of dollars in add-ons that seems to be an out of the box feature with MFS 2020. I imagine that the market for add-ons will continue, but not with the same strength. Heck, Rio de Janeiro International Airport seems to be in the list of 80 airfields that they took time to detail!

 

With the subscriptions, the development could be a constant for years. Performance wise, posts are starting to pop up and there is no concern about it. The simulator looks smooth.

[CanadaOne]

22 hours ago, SeaW0lf said:

Xbox Game Pass is just $14? I wouldn't mind paying for that, even if only for MFS 2020. I imagine that the general aviation community would not as well, since right now people pay hundreds of dollars in add-ons that seems to be an out of the box feature with MFS 2020. I imagine that the market for add-ons will continue, but not with the same strength. Heck, Rio de Janeiro International Airport seems to be in the list of 80 airfields that they took time to detail!

 

With the subscriptions, the development could be a constant for years. Performance wise, posts are starting to pop up and there is no concern about it. The simulator looks smooth.

 

I'm a bit of a (minimally accomplished) geography nerd, as I guess many flightsimheads are, and FS2020 looks like a dream come true in that area. We don't just get the planes and atmospherics, but interactive HD maps of the planet. That being the case, I'm ready and willing to pay a subscription fee.

 

I'm curious about what else they will do with this program. A driving sim, a boat sim, some kind of space sim maybe, with launches to the ISS and then bring the shuttle back to Florida? Who knows. But I doubt all that delicious HD eye candy and info will be limited to us guys and our 172s.

[CUJO_1970]

Subscription? Of course I will pay for the subscription.

 

I intend to inject this sim directly into my veins.

[Jaws2002]

On 2/25/2020 at 1:53 AM, Gordon200 said:

@unlikely_spider, @CanadaOne I'm afraid the corona virus is going to disrupt product manufacture and distribution for anything electronic for many months. Expect prices on existing inventory to rise in the coming days.

Agree on the first part, but i doubt the prices of existing hardware will go up much. In this kind of crysis situations people reevaluate their priorities. 

 Better stock up on actual necessities than buy latest computer hardware.

[ZachariasX]

Save the date:

04/21/2020

 

Spec requirements:

 

 

[RedKestrel]

20 minutes ago, ZachariasX said:

Save the date:

04/21/2020

 

Spec requirements:

 

 

That actually doesn't look too bad in terms of requirements, especially GPU wise. Internet bandwidth would put me out of the running though LOL. Seems the need for lots of RAM is a fixture of the flight sim genre. 

[SeaW0lf]

You can also download a portion of the map and play off-line as I understand. That would avoid the bandwidth limitations. Regarding TrackIR, I saw a post from a naturalpoint representative this month saying that they are already in contact with MFS2020 to support TrackIR (that part was worrying me), so perhaps it will support TrackIR upon release.

 

Other than that, I'm sort of good to go. I might upgrade my GPU, since the 3000 series might get delayed with all this covid-19 thing.

Edited April 23, 2020 by SeaW0lf

[Lusekofte]

2 minutes ago, SeaW0lf said:

might update my GPU, since the 3000 series might get delayed with all this covid-19 thing.

I got a 1080TI. I will not upgrade before I know what new 3000 gen brings

[SeaW0lf]

1 minute ago, 216th_LuseKofte said:

I got a 1080TI. I will not upgrade before I know what new 3000 gen brings

 

You don't have to. The 1080Ti is still a great card. But the 2000 series brought some new things and had some problems at release, then we can expect the 3000 series will be ironed out on this regard. I expect a good performance boost and cheaper prices. They can't play with the RT novelty anymore. So all in all, the 3000 series should have a good cost benefit.

[Feathered_IV]

I’ve got a GTX660ti.  I guess I’ll just watch it on YouTube.  ?

[CanadaOne]

Crap, I'm gonna need Win10.

 

Let there be spyware!

[CUJO_1970]

Yep, my system is old as the hills it's been time for an upgrade for a while:

 

Win 7 Pro

i7 975 @ 3.46

8 gig RAM

GTX 750Ti

?

 

FSX2020 is my excuse.

[Lusekofte]

On 2/22/2020 at 6:03 PM, DD_Arthur said:

 

That is a worry.  I don't mind if it's expensive....within reason....but I'm not going the subscription route.

Starting up a small business I found everything of software being on subscription. 
In special MS products. 
It is the damnedest thing, not only that. Just when my need for structure and a little bit of order. My iPhone and macairbook went to macheaven. And I had to buy new ones.  Workstation standard pc cost more than gaming laptops. So I boughtone of those. It seems storage go to some clouds nowadays. 
sometimes I just dont wanna know
subscription is one of many things that ensure you to never keep your hard earned money

Edited April 24, 2020 by 216th_LuseKofte

[DD_fruitbat]

Yey, I have ideal (actually better) spec....

 

Moderately tempted at the moment!

Edited April 25, 2020 by DD_fruitbat

[DD_Arthur]

Wow. I almost meet the ideal specs and I've just realised I'm already paying Microsoft's subscription for kid's XBox.

 

 

 

I'm in!!

[Lusekofte]

For me this sim will be hard to pass. I never really was a dedicated commersial pilot. 
I am more a rubbish bush pilot no one would dare hire. 
If fsx only could show a caravan with floats up on a lake you would have seen screenshots on how my career was in my fsx career.  My problem is mostly the costly addon and in soecial hardware I probably buy

[Bremspropeller]

2 minutes ago, 216th_LuseKofte said:

I am more a rubbish bush pilot no one would dare hire. 

 

Maybe "Deadstick" is going to be a thing for you.

[Lusekofte]

Just now, Bremspropeller said:

 

Maybe "Deadstick" is going to be a thing for you.

Yeah I will buy that one before 2020. It might scratch my civilian urge enough to pass on 2020. 

[Chief_Mouser]

'Deadstick' is going to be good for me too. I have never been interested in large commercial jets, but I will get FS2020 and fly something small -  just for the scenery.

[DD_fruitbat]

6 minutes ago, 216th_Cat said:

'Deadstick' is going to be good for me too. I have never been interested in large commercial jets, but I will get FS2020 and fly something small -  just for the scenery.

 

And this is my problem with FS2020. 

 

I have no interest in flying big commercial jets either, something small that i can bomb around in looking at the scenery is quite appealing, but what is going to be available that will appeal to me i wonder?

[Chief_Mouser]

I'm sure that all sorts of planes will be added fairly quickly once it's out. They've been working with 3rd party creators from the beginning so I hope to see some interesting aircraft. Failing that it's going to be the Mudry CAP 10 or CubCrafters XCub I suppose. I intend to fly around places that I've been to on holiday and see what I can still recognise!

[DD_Arthur]

I'm sure they'll cram enough 'standards' in there at the start.  I would expect a Stearman, a Cessna of some sort - the usual stuff.

 

I think I'm quite looking forward to this.  Flight-simming for me started by flying a Cessna around Chicago.  I really want to fly VFR Dunkeswell > Cerne Abbas.

[Bremspropeller]

But will the "standards" work correctly, or are they just eye-candy?

 

The TBM they're showing on their teasers is a SH airplane, but will it come with any sytems-depth? Same for the Airbus.

[Lusekofte]

For me choppers will be essential. And a good cessna model,  Caravan with floats. 
for that I probably invest a bit in hardware. 
for me it must be a proper pilot environment with good physics. Just flying around playing pilot I already got other sims to do. 
I wont do this in VR I will set up my gauges and probably buy gps system and get serious if good enough. 

Edited April 26, 2020 by 216th_LuseKofte

[Chief_Mouser]

3 hours ago, DD_Arthur said:

I'm sure they'll cram enough 'standards' in there at the start.  I would expect a Stearman, a Cessna of some sort - the usual stuff.

 

I think I'm quite looking forward to this.  Flight-simming for me started by flying a Cessna around Chicago.  I really want to fly VFR Dunkeswell > Cerne Abbas.

 

When you've finished ogling the Giant pop up to Compton Abbas. I had a birthday present flight in a Tiger Moth from there. Brilliant.

[DD_Arthur]

4 minutes ago, 216th_Cat said:

 

When you've finished ogling the Giant pop up to Compton Abbas. I had a birthday present flight in a Tiger Moth from there. Brilliant.

 

Oh yeah!!!  Lol, and I've had a chicken curry in the cafe there too!

 

"So what do you have to do now Rick?"

 

"We have to fly back to Dunkeswell and get this signed"

 

"What, straight back?"

 

"Well......"

[Lusekofte]

I have no idea what this guy knows and how he knows it. 
But it sounds like he have some boubles to bust

https://vr4dcs.com/2020/04/27/microsoft-flight-simulator-2020-isnt-what-you-thought/

[Chief_Mouser]

36 minutes ago, 216th_LuseKofte said:

I have no idea what this guy knows and how he knows it. 
But it sounds like he have some boubles to bust

https://vr4dcs.com/2020/04/27/microsoft-flight-simulator-2020-isnt-what-you-thought/

 

It sounds to me like he doesn't know any more than you or I. I'm not even sure what he's getting at.

[DetCord12B]

2 hours ago, 216th_Cat said:

 

It sounds to me like he doesn't know any more than you or I. I'm not even sure what he's getting at.

 

Right? Maybe he was quarantine crazy when he wrote this smidge. Or drunk. 

 

Quote

Is it becoming obvious that Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 will not be the beautiful VFR/IFR capable high-fidelity simulator we were hoping for in this massive re-do of the classic Flight Simulator family?

 

That's quite the hyperbole in the vielded form of a question, as is the rest of the "article". Kinda reminds me of the garbage you find on Buzzfeed. This guys knows as much as the rest of us outside of the devs and CTE users. If it compares or surpasses to stock FSX, XP, and P3D I'll be happy.

 

What a clickbait article that is.

[simfan2015]

Read the article too.

IMHO It isn't always clear to me either what he is getting at.

Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 is not a combat sim maybe ?

But more obvious is the fact that initially there would be no VR support and that website is ... about VR and such ? 

If that is the case, then that is my only 'negative' thought towards it also.

But of course that was never meant to be.

I will try it, even thought I always was into combat flight sims also.

This new product seems to good to not even try to experience the true immersive feeling of flying with true to life visuals.

But I hope that, in time, Warbirds and modern combat warplanes with get into it !

Edited April 28, 2020 by simfan2015