Tactical Air War

[PikAs62]

server down

[FeuerFliegen]

If open to suggestions, I would like to suggest to have some option of getting lives back other ways besides the current system of simply a new map, or getting 1 life whenever you lose all lives and get 24 hours ban.

 

Maybe get one life back every 24 hours regardless of what happens (without going over 3)?

 

Also it would be way better if it was slightly less than 24 hours, like 12 would be much better, because of an example like this - Say I were to play from 9pm-1am each night.  Let's say I lost my last life around 11pm- I'm banned and can't play the server anymore that night, but also banned for the majority of tomorrow night as well, and would really like the ability to have another chance to play at 9pm a day later.  So even a 18 hour ban would be much easier, and I believe it would still provide basically the same incentive to not do a suicide sortie.  

 

I do like the reasoning for the current system, as it does make you want to be extremely careful with your life, as you would be in real life, adding to the realism, but it is very disappointing when you get the 24 hour bans, especially if they were to happen 2 times in a row.

[Fritz_Faber]

It shouldn‘t be allowed to switch sides in one mission. First you fly in one team, know the focused targets and plans, and then you switch side and fight with this Knowledge and advantage against und your former teammates!??!

[FTC_Riksen]

2 hours ago, Fritz_Faber said:

It shouldn‘t be allowed to switch sides in one mission. First you fly in one team, know the focused targets and plans, and then you switch side and fight with this Knowledge and advantage against und your former teammates!??!

 

There is a 10 min penalty for switching sides and most do it to balance the numbers out. There is only so much you can do in a single match and as long as the guy switching sides is giving his best for both sides, I dont see any issues there.

[Fritz_Faber]

In mission #328 we had only a few player each side same time, so team is just able to focus one or two targets. One of our blue team was killed at northern frontline, knew by chat that we are attacking southern tanks. He switched to red and attacked us there. 

Strange for me, sorry.

[ECV56_Necathor]

On current map #7, there is a unbalance on fighters for the red side.

Red side 6 fighters and blue side 7 fighters.

And red side still have the Lagg3 with limitation for the Vya, against 109G2 and better blue planes.

I believe that this situation need to be fixed.

Regards,

[Cpt_Siddy]

2 hours ago, Fritz_Faber said:

In mission #328 we had only a few player each side same time, so team is just able to focus one or two targets. One of our blue team was killed at northern frontline, knew by chat that we are attacking southern tanks. He switched to red and attacked us there. 

Strange for me, sorry.

 

 

Have you ever considered that knowing the enemy numbers is already a quite big advantage. If you relax your rectum because you think it is 4 vs 19 in your favor and then die because of it, dont cry because the killer might have some speculated knowledge that you were in the area, makes you look like a clown. 

[AKA_Relent]

15 hours ago, 666GIAP_Necathor said:

On current map #7, there is a unbalance on fighters for the red side.

Red side 6 fighters and blue side 7 fighters.

And red side still have the Lagg3 with limitation for the Vya, against 109G2 and better blue planes.

I believe that this situation need to be fixed.

Regards,

I agree on this as well.

 

Looking at the introduction of the fighters on both sides, the Lagg-3 was introduced at the same time as the Bf-109F4, which stopped being in the inventory after map #6.  Based on the timing and quantity of fighter types on the German side in map #7:

 

Bf 109 G-2: x/2
Fw 190 A-3: x/2
Bf 109 G-4: x/1
Fw 190 A-5: x/1
Bf 109 G-6: x/1
 

if the Lagg-3 was replaced, a recommended Russian fighter combination for map #7 could be:

 

La-5: x/2
Yak-1B ser.127: x/1
Spitfire Mk.VB: x/1
Yak-7B ser.36: x/1
P-39L-1: x/1
La-5FN ser.2: x/1

 

This seems more representative as the Lagg-3 would have been replaced by the La-5 series in more numbers by this time.

[JFS4_Eisbaer]

It should be of course for each of us to not shoot a defeated opponent on the parachute.

It's a matter of your own character and respect for the enemy.

[PikAs62]

Server is down - maybe because of the new game version?

[todeskvlt]

1 hour ago, Pikas_62 said:

Server is down - maybe because of the new game version?

 

i see it's online now

[Cpt_Siddy]

Please add the 262 on the last map for the poops and giggles. TAW red vs blue fight is already done and i want to see how it will be used on TAW... and the comedy that follows from that :^) 

[PikAs62]

Server is down.

[todeskvlt]

22 minutes ago, Pikas_62 said:

Server is down.

 

Online now.

[BG26_Ogg]

On 6/7/2019 at 11:11 PM, StG77_Kondor said:

 

 

On 6/7/2019 at 11:21 PM, -332FG-Garven said:

   

 

 

Just so the two of you know it's not a whine but a promise.
Check the closure rate.

So I shall ram all PE2s from now on

until the AI is downgraded to believable.

 

 

Edited June 12, 2019 by JG51_Ogg

[todeskvlt]

32 minutes ago, JG51_Ogg said:

 

   

 

 

Just so the two of you know it's not a whine but a promise.
Check the closure rate.

So I shall ram all PE2s from now on

until the AI is downgraded to believable.

 

 

 

[=FSB=Man-Yac]

1 hour ago, JG51_Ogg said:

 

   

 

 

Just so the two of you know it's not a whine but a promise.
Check the closure rate.

So I shall ram all PE2s from now on

until the AI is downgraded to believable.

 

 

This is not a server issue it's a game issue, why post this here. Everyone is aware of this issue. And it's the same for every gunners. I got nailed by an 88 after I killed his pilot and his gunner just  lasered my plane, his first shots hit my engine and he didn't miss a single one. I lost my 74 ak streak pilot that survived every map so far and I didn't cry on the forums about it ( well now I did)

https://taw.stg2.de/pilot_sortie.php?id=66070&name==FSB=Man-Yac

[Operatsiya_Ivy]

1 hour ago, =FSB=Man-Yac said:

I lost my 74 ak streak pilot that survived every map so far and I didn't cry on the forums about it ( well now I did)

 

The funny part is that most pilots that manage to get a high ak streak die by AI gunners....

[Guest deleted@103832]

Maybe I'll start ramming every Flak 36 gun I see.

 

Anyway, I thought you were taking your ball and going home:

 

On 5/15/2019 at 10:50 PM, JG51_Ogg said:

As CO of JG51Molders I have, with the agreement of the leadership, decided to pull our support of the TAW server.  With doing this we will no longer have our squad required to play in the TAW server during the squad night follies.

 

[=FSB=Man-Yac]

28 minutes ago, Operation_Ivy said:

 

The funny part is that most pilots that manage to get a high ak streak die by AI gunners....

Not throwing flowers at myself but usually pilots that manage high streak make few mistakes against ennemy fighters (and bombers but always luck factor whatever the approach). So usually its the gunners that gets them. Or they do ground attack and die to flak. 

I was very lucky not to die so far though, LG squad almost killed me twice in my chute after shooting me down, they are tough nuts to play against for sure. 

 

[JG7_X-Man]

3 hours ago, JG51_Ogg said:

So I shall ram all PE2s from now on until the AI is downgraded to believable.

 

LOL JG51_Ogg! You just made my F#$%! day!

 

You have now be upgraded from funny - to funny as hell! Haha

[FTC_Riksen]

1 hour ago, Operation_Ivy said:

 

The funny part is that most pilots that manage to get a high ak streak die by AI gunners....

 

I too died to a gunner

While I agree the gunner is broken, I believe the problem affects all planes but it is severely worse because some gunner do not get killed when you shoot their position. They seen invunerable to direct mg and cannon hits in some planes while they are easily killed in others. Not really an issue with the server ... Maybe one day the devs will introduce additional factors to decrease So gunner accuracy like G force, speed, angle and all that. Until then, every attack against pe2s will feel like lottery lol

[Hummels]

Raid 12 Junkers-88 with cover on the Abganerovo airfield

 

Edited June 12, 2019 by 1/SG2_Hummels

[JG4_Widukind]

Nice but u hit very bad... A Ju88 is not a B17?

 

 

[StG77_Kondor]

9 hours ago, JG51_Ogg said:

 

   

 

 

Just so the two of you know it's not a whine but a promise.
Check the closure rate.

So I shall ram all PE2s from now on

until the AI is downgraded to believable.

 

 

As any good German pilot will tell you, that is an awful attack angle on that Peshka. You came in from 6 o'clock high and then kept flying straight right next to him with no evasive maneuvers. I would recommend practicing against AI in SP, and working on the weaknesses of all planes - not just the Peshka. There are plenty of German pilots who are very successful at shooting down Peshkas. Instead of coming on the forum to type out vacuous threats, maybe you can learn something from them. 

[Hummels]

8 hours ago, JG4_Widukind said:

Nice but u hit very bad... A Ju88 is not a B17?

 

 

We did not calculate, the field is rather short than the others and chose a delay of 0.5. The part of the pilots for some reason not gone outside bombs. But in general, the field was damaged by 54 %, could have turned out better)

[Fritz_Faber]

2 hours ago, 1/SG2_Hummels said:

We did not calculate, the field is rather short than the others and chose a delay of 0.5. The part of the pilots for some reason not gone outside bombs. But in general, the field was damaged by 54 %, could have turned out better)

Was so fascinated by the 12 x Ju88 flying together and focused to keep the formation that I missed the AF completely. Bombed the snow somewhere...but was great fun!

[FTC_Riksen]

10 minutes ago, Fritz_Faber said:

Was so fascinated by the 12 x Ju88 flying together and focused to keep the formation that I missed the AF completely. Bombed the snow somewhere...but was great fun!

Even if you all missed that was incredible! Also, dropping on the leader is more historical than every single plane breaking formation to aim at something.

[RedKestrel]

40 minutes ago, Fritz_Faber said:

Was so fascinated by the 12 x Ju88 flying together and focused to keep the formation that I missed the AF completely. Bombed the snow somewhere...but was great fun!

A squad of soldiers, huddled under white blankets and tarps, shivered in the winter dawn. But for the steam of their breaths, you wouldn't even know they were there.

"I do not understand, Comrade Sergeant! Why are we lying out here in the snow?" Asked young private Vasily.

Sergeant Ivan Ivanovich Ivanov regarded Vasily with a cold glare. He explained again with a sigh. "You see, private, the fascist dogs are sending their feeble warplanes to bomb our airfield, and will follow up with a paratrooper drop. Knowing this, we hide in ambush far away from the field. This way, we are safe from the bombs, and the paratroopers will drop right into our ambush!"

Vasily nodded slowly. "I think I understand now, Comrade Sergeant," (he did not). 
"Good."
There was a long pause.
"Do you hear that, Comrade Sergeant?"
Ivan sighed. "Hear what, Vasily?"
"That high pitched whistling sound!"
"I hear nothing, Vasily." Ivan said, uncomfortably.
"And look, up there, those little dots that keep getting bigger and bigger!"
Ivan looked up reluctantly, making out the distant Ju-88, noting the wide open bomb bay doors, and the dozen or so dots gradually expanding in size as they dropped. 

"Oh, Блядь"

Ivan turned to Vasily. "Vasily," he said. "During the next map rotation, I hope that you may respawn as a Pe-2 gunner."
Vasily teared up. "Comrade Sergeant, that is the nicest thing anyone has ever said to me!"

***

From high above Fritz' bombardier saw the puffs of snow as the bombs hit far, far to the east of the airfield.

"Do we have good hits, Hans?" Fritz called out.

"Errrr...Ja, good hits! We...really got them this time!"
For once Hans was right, though he didn't know it.

[LLv24_Kuppis]

17 hours ago, =FSB=Man-Yac said:

This is not a server issue it's a game issue, why post this here. Everyone is aware of this issue. And it's the same for every gunners. I got nailed by an 88 after I killed his pilot and his gunner just  lasered my plane, his first shots hit my engine and he didn't miss a single one. I lost my 74 ak streak pilot that survived every map so far and I didn't cry on the forums about it ( well now I did)

https://taw.stg2.de/pilot_sortie.php?id=66070&name==FSB=Man-Yac

 

Would´ve offer my tailgunner extra ratio of schnapps for that shot if only I would survive! I believe I had set my gunner to shoot at close distance, so maybe you came too close, and without pulling little or no G´s, he had a clear shot. I don´t have recording so I could remember wrong. But yes, I was suprised that he got you 1-2 secs after I was killed.

15 hours ago, 1/SG2_Hummels said:

Raid 12 Junkers-88 with cover on the Abganerovo airfield

 

Nevermind if you hit or miss, this was awesome! o7

[=FSB=Man-Yac]

1 hour ago, SCG_Kuppis said:

 

Would´ve offer my tailgunner extra ratio of schnapps for that shot if only I would survive! I believe I had set my gunner to shoot at close distance, so maybe you came too close, and without pulling little or no G´s, he had a clear shot. I don´t have recording so I could remember wrong. But yes, I was suprised that he got you 1-2 secs after I was killed.

I did a bad approach, I came in fast from 3 o'clock after a sharp dive, but you were in a dive too and in winter the speeds are even higher so I ended up in your dead 6. I trained myself to kill the gunner and pilot in the 88, with practice it's not so hard so I was expecting to get your gunner as well, was a mistake from my part, I was confident in the la5 armor glass but I think you put so much bullet through my engine it went into the cockpit.. Paid for my over confidence with my pilot, it happens. 

[BG26_Ogg]

17 hours ago, StG77_HvB said:

Maybe I'll start ramming every Flak 36 gun I see.

 

Anyway, I thought you were taking your ball and going home:

 

 

We have pulled our support monetarily.  We will no longer contribute.  Didn't say we were leaving it completely.  Just said as you quoted me JG51 Will not fly squad night operations on the TAW server.  Doesn't look to me like I said we were taking our ball.  Looks to me like I said We will take our money elsewhere.

 

And KONDOR at 700KM/H the angle is good.  The AI is atrocious and can be turned down or off in the Server.  I've done it in our test server.  Make the T^G man operated instead of AI is one way.  Turning them from expert to rookie is another way.

On 6/11/2019 at 8:08 AM, CptSiddy said:

Please add the 262 on the last map for the poops and giggles. TAW red vs blue fight is already done and i want to see how it will be used on TAW... and the comedy that follows from that :^) 

Probably be handled like the P47 Allied pilots for the most part.  The  "I can Turn and Burn in it" crowd will make it fun for the Allies K/D.  Those that use it correctly will get high A/K numbers and die to PE2 even at a 90 degree attack at 950Km/H

 

Just my thought

[LP1888]

When you get killed and cry lol

[LLv24_Kuppis]

42 minutes ago, =FSB=Man-Yac said:

I did a bad approach, I came in fast from 3 o'clock after a sharp dive, but you were in a dive too and in winter the speeds are even higher so I ended up in your dead 6. I trained myself to kill the gunner and pilot in the 88, with practice it's not so hard so I was expecting to get your gunner as well, was a mistake from my part, I was confident in the la5 armor glass but I think you put so much bullet through my engine it went into the cockpit.. Paid for my over confidence with my pilot, it happens. 

Yes, It was very precise shooting from you, I didn’t have time to react at all before you hit me. ?

[Coldman]

1 hour ago, JG51_Ogg said:

We have pulled our support monetarily.  We will no longer contribute.  Didn't say we were leaving it completely.  Just said as you quoted me JG51 Will not fly squad night operations on the TAW server.  Doesn't look to me like I said we were taking our ball.  Looks to me like I said We will take our money elsewhere.

 

And KONDOR at 700KM/H the angle is good.  The AI is atrocious and can be turned down or off in the Server.  I've done it in our test server.  Make the T^G man operated instead of AI is one way.  Turning them from expert to rookie is another way.

Probably be handled like the P47 Allied pilots for the most part.  The  "I can Turn and Burn in it" crowd will make it fun for the Allies K/D.  Those that use it correctly will get high A/K numbers and die to PE2 even at a 90 degree attack at 950Km/H

 

Just my thought

We are doomed...who will pay now? ?

[Fritz_Faber]

4 hours ago, RedKestrel said:

A squad of soldiers, huddled under white blankets and tarps, shivered in the winter dawn. But for the steam of their breaths, you wouldn't even know they were there.

"I do not understand, Comrade Sergeant! Why are we lying out here in the snow?" Asked young private Vasily.

Sergeant Ivan Ivanovich Ivanov regarded Vasily with a cold glare. He explained again with a sigh. "You see, private, the fascist dogs are sending their feeble warplanes to bomb our airfield, and will follow up with a paratrooper drop. Knowing this, we hide in ambush far away from the field. This way, we are safe from the bombs, and the paratroopers will drop right into our ambush!"

Vasily nodded slowly. "I think I understand now, Comrade Sergeant," (he did not). 
"Good."
There was a long pause.
"Do you hear that, Comrade Sergeant?"
Ivan sighed. "Hear what, Vasily?"
"That high pitched whistling sound!"
"I hear nothing, Vasily." Ivan said, uncomfortably.
"And look, up there, those little dots that keep getting bigger and bigger!"
Ivan looked up reluctantly, making out the distant Ju-88, noting the wide open bomb bay doors, and the dozen or so dots gradually expanding in size as they dropped. 

"Oh, Блядь"

Ivan turned to Vasily. "Vasily," he said. "During the next map rotation, I hope that you may respawn as a Pe-2 gunner."
Vasily teared up. "Comrade Sergeant, that is the nicest thing anyone has ever said to me!"

***

From high above Fritz' bombardier saw the puffs of snow as the bombs hit far, far to the east of the airfield.

"Do we have good hits, Hans?" Fritz called out.

"Errrr...Ja, good hits! We...really got them this time!"
For once Hans was right, though he didn't know it.

?

great story....sorry for Ivan and Vasily. See you on your‘s Pe-2 six ?.

(you are a poet ?)

[JG7_X-Man]

6 hours ago, =LG=Coldman said:

We are doomed...who will pay now? ?

LOL a sucker is born every minute LOL

[SCG_Limboski]

On 6/13/2019 at 8:30 AM, JG51_Ogg said:

We have pulled our support monetarily.  We will no longer contribute.  Didn't say we were leaving it completely.  Just said as you quoted me JG51 Will not fly squad night operations on the TAW server.  Doesn't look to me like I said we were taking our ball.  Looks to me like I said We will take our money elsewhere.

 

I really don't want to get involved in the drama of this but when you write the above and then appear to have squad night on TAW the very next night (see below) and JG51 comes close to creating an over-limit  situation where I can't fly...this just leaves me shaking my head in disbelief. 

 

 

 

[SCG_Syn]

Hey guys, regarding pe2 gunners. Just this night my mates and I rushed hopelessly to HvB and Kondor while they got intercepted before target. They died within a minute. I myself have become pretty adept at shooting down pe-2s over my time in TAW. 

 

 

I'll list below what I've found to be instant death:

If you are climbing up to them you will die

If you are on their 6 and keep on it after the gunners lock onto you are dead

If you come in from a low angle of attack

If you get close and aren't coming in at 600+ kph

If you try to squeeze those last couple of seconds of cannons you will die

If your in a rush you will die!

 

What I've found to work:

Coming in fast and getting out fast

Use climbs and dives, between the too get kinetic energy to make it less likely to die

Shooting from afar

Pull out as soon as the gunners start to open up, no hesitation

Dive! Dive! Dive! on them!

Pull into them to get maximum damage in smallest window of firing (go through after firing, don't fly above them, fly below, through, climb, repeat)

BE PATIENT AND DISCIPLINED WITH YOUR SHOOTING AND ENERGY, rushing will get you killed

Take armored glass

Learn how to manage a damaged engine (.7 ata,  just above 1500 rpm, without critical damage you can get quite far)

Go for head ones, deflection from below or above works best, if you do it dead on you risk .50 cal or ram)

 

It takes patience and time mainly, but its completely doable and you get the hang of shootin em down.

 

 

You must also understand that sometimes you get unlucky, I get sniped by pe-2s, 110s, and 88s aswell. Sometimes stuff like that happens, and adapting to minimize risk instead of threatening and complaining is what makes a good pilot... So become the best Pe-2 killer in the game, instead of ramming them and withdrawing monetary support.

 

It's not like the pe2 pilots are laughing at our misery (sometimes but are'nt we all) and do it out of hatred of 109 pilots.

Edited June 15, 2019 by SCG_Sinerox

[56RAF_Roblex]

3 hours ago, SCG_Sinerox said:

I'll list below what I've found to be instant death:

If you are climbing up to them you will die

If you are on their 6 and keep on it after the gunners lock onto you are dead

If you come in from a low angle of attack

...

 

Can I just add that getting killed while climbing on a PE2s tail has nothing to do with AI being OP.    Try sitting in that gunner position while somebody climbs on you and you will see that it presents a ridiculously easy target, easier than dead 6,  because you just aim in front and move the stream of bullets back to fill the cockpit like using a garden hose ?