Game version 4.007 discussion: Ju 87 D-3 in 4K, new options and camera controls, control rods DM and ect.

[Talon_]

5 hours ago, Jade_Monkey said:

 

May I ask why? Why would you put your server at risk?

 

I'm sure by now you are very familiar with the video showing a user cheating by using a reshade filter.

 

Why let a few bad apples spoil the bunch? If we ban injectors, Pimax VR users lose the ability to zoom thanks to their canted display technology.

 

All of the admins fly in VR and we set the server up for VR players like us, so it would be hypocrisy to now damage that experience just because somebody wants to cheat at pretend fighter planes. It's not MLG. The fact that 2D users also enjoy the server is a nice bonus, but alternatives are available if you are so worried about cheats.

 

You should be aware certain memory injectors cannot be blocked by the server and are able to do much worse than run funky graphics. Cheaters will always cheat.

[2/JG26_rudidlo]

7 hours ago, =VARP=Ribbon said:

For me this is a big step in fair play as many did abuse it to get advantage over others in spotting (youtube vids, some players i know online, from forum comments) same as 3dmigoto on 2d monitors....it was so apparent in MP, ppl were doing everthing to spot better and get advantage over others!

Now i can simply avoid such servers!

I'd rather sacrifice more colour than fair play!

I agree with you.

6 hours ago, Alonzo said:

 

Come play on Combat Box, we allow VREM and ReShade.

You helped me decide which servers to visit and which not.

5 hours ago, Jade_Monkey said:

 

The one with the dude spotting everyone a million km away flipping reshade settings back and forth? Not sure we are talking about the same video.

Can you share a link?

[Yogiflight]

25 minutes ago, 1stCL/rudidlo said:

I know it's possible. But not using them I'm not limited during game play and image is good enough. 

It is not only good enough, but in fact much more realistic. These shining colors are nothing else than hollywood style. But people are used to it, because they see it constantly in all those high colored Hollywood movies.

 

Edited June 10, 2020 by Yogiflight

[2/JG26_rudidlo]

Just now, Yogiflight said:

It is not only good enough, but in fact much more realistic. These shining colors are nothing else than hollywood style. But people are used to it, because they see it constantly in all those high colored Hollywood movies.

I absolutely agree.

[szelljr]

8 hours ago, =FEW=fernando11 said:

I wonder how many of you guys are having "troubles" of how vivid the image looks because of settings on your own monitor/TV

Many monitors and TVs dont come calibrated, or have specific settings for "gaming", less gosting, less imput lag, at the cost of color correction...

I'm looking at the pictures on my phone, and I can tell you, my game looks closer to the second picture than to the first. Stock game, no Reshade.

 

...the first pictures is like a "Disney cartoon" . ◀️

[simfan2015]

Thank you for another smooth update !

IL-2 GB feels incredibly optimized (on my rig anyway) and eye candy on my 4K monitor is out-of-this world.

a.o. The 4K JU87D3 skins (together with the Oyster_KAI 4k cockpit mod) is approaching photo-realisism.

[IMHO What a difference with the DCS OpenBeta 'experience' where I am getting a bit afraid to fire it up after each OB update :-) !]

[Pikestance]

@Jason_Williams Quick question I used my mouse scroll for throttle, but when I use it it increase/decrease by 6% each time. I have tried several work around, but nothing seems to work. I am guessing it is something that cannot be change on my end. Is there a way you could address this in a future update. 

 

Thanks! 

[Hoots]

1 minute ago, [=PzG=]-FlyinPinkPanther said:

@Jason_Williams Quick question I used my mouse scroll for throttle, but when I use it it increase/decrease by 6% each time. I have tried several work around, but nothing seems to work. I am guessing it is something that cannot be change on my end. Is there a way you could address this in a future update. 

 

Thanks! 

There’s an option in windows to say how many rows to scroll with each “click”, I have no idea if it’s linked but might be worth a look?

[SCG_Redcloud111]

@Han @Jason_Williams

 

Hey, guys, great work on this. I use a Pimax 5k+, which has canted displays, and the zooms won't work unless I activate Pimax's parallel projections (PP), which corrects the image for games that haven't implemented PP (but, sadly, eats precious FPS). In normal view I can run Il2 without PP. I was thrilled when you guys graciously removed the PP requirement several months ago--but only for normal view. Now that you have implemented zoom, the zooms only work with PP activated, thus causing a performance hit. I am hoping that since you have normal view working for canted displays like those of Pimax that implementing this for zoom isn't that difficult.

 

I can certainly help test, if need be.

 

Again, thanks for all the amazing hours you've provided. Keep it up. Looking forward to the Hurricane. Take my money, please.

Edited June 10, 2020 by SCG_redcloud111

[II./SG.1-MarkWilhelmsson]

3 hours ago, Y-29.Silky said:

This type of War Thunder crap needs to be addressed... The Bf-110 was pulled from the Battle of Britain, yet it's one of the best dogfighters in this game..... Our patience is running really, really low. I hate to sound bias, but the German planes completely float, have no torque effect, and have no damage effect. You can be hit on your right wing, then you're left, and you're 100% maneuverable again.

 

This is one of the steamiest piles of dung I've seen on this forum. And trust me, there are a lot of piles on here. ???

[TCW_Brzi_Joe]

copy of my post:

"3dMigoto is dead. There is new mod VREM, without any zoom. With it I can set convergence and not being cross-eyed when zooming in Pimax HMD. Without it, I need to degrade my graphic about 30% to compensate. That degradation is so big that I basically can not play fighters (as I do not see in distance as others)."

 

Please, please, please, pretty please make that zoom for canted displays, at least 1 level. I bought the best vr googles for this game, and that googles are the only ones that does not work here any more.

[Pikestance]

31 minutes ago, Hoots said:

There’s an option in windows to say how many rows to scroll with each “click”, I have no idea if it’s linked but might be worth a look?

 

I tried it, nothing, thanks

[von_Tom]

10 hours ago, dburne said:

And then shortly after that, the flames spread to the front of my cockpit and I was about to burn to a crisp before I rapidly bailed out.

It’s been around for a while and it is N.A.S.T.Y.
 

I’ve experienced it twice now - the first time I fumbled very very quickly for the GTFO button. 
 

von Tom

 

ps. Get The F...Out

[easterling77]

11 hours ago, =VARP=Ribbon said:

For Steam chaps i suggest to verify game files after each update!

There is usually one or two files often fail to validate but =Verifying it once again= it manages to verify all files succesfully.

 

Thnx devs for Reshade abuse removal and VR zoom!

 

S!

Nope this doesent fix the problem. A8 and D9 stay in wrong default camera position but thx for support. Maybe a little bit of patience till the next update and it may will be fixed than?‍♂️

[von_Tom]

Just now, easterling77 said:

Nope this doesent fix the problem. A8 and D9 stay in wrong default camera position but thx for support. Maybe a little bit of patience till the next update and it may will be fixed than?‍♂️

 

Create your own default position.  Disable Track IR or VR or whatever head tracking you use, if any.  Use the pilot head commands up/down/left/right/forward/backward then when you're happy save it.

 

It takes longer in VR because you have to restart the game to check it, but once you're done, you're done.

 

von Tom

[Talon_]

2 hours ago, SCG_redcloud111 said:

@Han @Jason_Williams

 

Hey, guys, great work on this. I use a Pimax 5k+, which has canted displays, and the zooms won't work unless I activate Pimax's parallel projections (PP), which corrects the image for games that haven't implemented PP (but, sadly, eats precious FPS). In normal view I can run Il2 without PP. I was thrilled when you guys graciously removed the PP requirement several months ago--but only for normal view. Now that you have implemented zoom, the zooms only work with PP activated, thus causing a performance hit. I am hoping that since you have normal view working for canted displays like those of Pimax that implementing this for zoom isn't that difficult.

 

I can certainly help test, if need be.

 

Again, thanks for all the amazing hours you've provided. Keep it up. Looking forward to the Hurricane. Take my money, please.

 

You can fix this with the VR Enhancer Mod

1 hour ago, Brzi_Joe said:

copy of my post:

"3dMigoto is dead. There is new mod VREM, without any zoom. With it I can set convergence and not being cross-eyed when zooming in Pimax HMD. Without it, I need to degrade my graphic about 30% to compensate. That degradation is so big that I basically can not play fighters (as I do not see in distance as others)."

 

Please, please, please, pretty please make that zoom for canted displays, at least 1 level. I bought the best vr googles for this game, and that googles are the only ones that does not work here any more.

 

You can use this mod on most servers, just not WoL. CB, and Finnish don't restrict it.

[easterling77]

30 minutes ago, von_Tom said:

 

Create your own default position.  Disable Track IR or VR or whatever head tracking you use, if any.  Use the pilot head commands up/down/left/right/forward/backward then when you're happy save it.

 

It takes longer in VR because you have to restart the game to check it, but once you're done, you're done.

 

von Tom

Ok thx will test it. Im a technical dinosaur - never used Track IR or VR

[G_Schwarz]

4. New multiplayer server option “Restrict Injectors” allows the server hosters to restrict access for users with graphics injectors like Reshade or 3dmigoto

 

is it ban all or ben this and leave this on ? 

like servers will ben 3dmigoto but allow reshade 

[Yogiflight]

3 hours ago, szelljr said:

...the first pictures is like a "Disney cartoon" . ◀️

Waiting for Donald to bail out

[Ribbon]

41 minutes ago, easterling77 said:

Nope this doesent fix the problem. A8 and D9 stay in wrong default camera position but thx for support. Maybe a little bit of patience till the next update and it may will be fixed than?‍♂️

I wasn't replying to that.....btw move your view into desired position and press f10, it will save that position as default view, it's not a bug, it's always been like that!

I hope that fixes your issue

 

S! 

[SCG_Redcloud111]

22 minutes ago, Talon_ said:

You can fix this with the VR Enhancer Mod

 @Talon_,  I am a long time supporter of @c6_lefuneste. I am aware of what his new version of the mod offers. I am waiting to hear what he plans to do, regarding the new levels of zoom and the injector ban. But the bottom line is that since the devs have added zoom, I am hoping all levels will work without parallel projections. I just tested again, across a number of scripted campaign missions, and I am losing significant fps. If the devs fix zoom for canted displays so that we don't need PP, I assume Lefuneste will drop this part of his mod. Not sure yet.

[Talon_]

4 minutes ago, SCG_redcloud111 said:

 @Talon_,  I am a long time supporter of @c6_lefuneste. I am aware of what his new version of the mod offers. I am waiting to hear what he plans to do, regarding the new levels of zoom and the injector ban. But the bottom line is that since the devs have added zoom, I am hoping all levels will work without parallel projections. I just tested again, across a number of scripted campaign missions, and I am losing significant fps. If the devs fix zoom for canted displays so that we don't need PP, I assume Lefuneste will drop this part of his mod. Not sure yet.

 

Injectors are only banned on a per-server basis, so you can run the mod and fix your zoom while flying to your heart's content on Combat Box!

[easterling77]

10 minutes ago, =VARP=Ribbon said:

I wasn't replying to that.....btw move your view into desired position and press f10, it will save that position as default view, it's not a bug, it's always been like that!

I hope that fixes your issue

 

S! 

Oh ok ^^ 

I never had this issues before. It's the first time ever and my view positions were allways on default but now i fixed it in the way you mentioned. Thx

@von_Tom Dinosaur is thankfull too?

[SCG_Redcloud111]

I have a different point I am trying to make. Pimax with no PP works fine with normal view right now. The in-game zoom solution is amazing, that the devs have offered. I am simply asking, if possible, zoom also work without PP. No need for any mods at that point. Thanks

[LLv24_Zami]

4 hours ago, Talon_ said:

You should be aware certain memory injectors cannot be blocked by the server and are able to do much worse than run funky graphics. Cheaters will always cheat.

With that attitude they will. 

 

There is a minority in a minority among MP players who has few headsets that don`t work perfectly atm and they decide what to do on most servers. But of course it`s your choice.

[Talon_]

4 minutes ago, LLv24_Zami said:

With that attitude they will. 

 

 

We can only prevent the cheats that we have the tools to prevent. The injector prevention mechanism is not a fine enough blade for us to enable it.

[LLv24_Zami]

Just now, Talon_ said:

 

We can only prevent the cheats that we have the tools to prevent. The injector prevention mechanism is not a fine enough blade for us to enable it.

It prevents using Reshade as a cheat. It is a tool provided to you.

[Talon_]

3 minutes ago, LLv24_Zami said:

It prevents using Reshade as a cheat. It is a tool provided to you.

 

Yes but in doing so it is harmful to innocent players. It's too broad to be useful currently. In the future, when Pimax users are on equal footing with other VR users without using mods, we can enable the total restriction if we choose, but for now it's a hammer when we need a scalpel.

[TCW_Brzi_Joe]

@LLv24_Zami

4 minutes ago, LLv24_Zami said:

There is a minority in a minority among MP players who has few headsets that don`t work perfectly atm and they decide what to do on most servers. But of course it`s your choice.

Yes, I bought the best possible for this game, and just because of this game. And your post is rude. But of course ti is your choice.

[LLv24_Zami]

1 minute ago, Talon_ said:

 

Yes but in doing so it is harmful to innocent players. It's too broad to be useful currently. In the future, when Pimax users are on equal footing with other VR users without using mods, we can enable the total restriction if we choose, but for now it's a hammer when we need a scalpel.

It`s harmful to a very very few MP flyers.  I don`t think it`s even possible to do it more accurate to prevent some specific injector. 

 

Pimax should make their headsets so that they work in games normally. All other does that. 

[Talon_]

3 minutes ago, LLv24_Zami said:

It`s harmful to a very very few MP flyers.  I don`t think it`s even possible to do it more accurate to prevent some specific injector. 

 

Pimax should make their headsets so that they work in games normally. All other does that. 

 

If you have a problem with our inclusive policy, you don't have to fly on Combat Box anymore.

[LLv24_Zami]

3 minutes ago, Brzi_Joe said:

@LLv24_Zami

Yes, I bought the best possible for this game, and just because of this game. And your post is rude. But of course ti is your choice.

It`s not best possible. It doesn`t work. As I said above, there`s also responsibility on Pimax to make their gear work in different games.

1 minute ago, Talon_ said:

 

If you have a problem with our inclusive policy, you don't have to fly on Combat Box anymore.

I know. But it doesn`t stop me for saying my opinion about it. It`s just pity that good things are unused because few people have some garbage headsets.

Edited June 10, 2020 by LLv24_Zami

[IRRE_Axurit]

13 hours ago, -332FG-Ursus_ said:

Just in case. This is what my ReShade is doing to my game. Just aesthetics. First one is Reshade one, second one ,turned off. Is just vivid colors.

I used reshade to increase the contrasts and enhance the colors. Today I no longer have the rights, and my HP reverb whitened the images.

When I complain to a friend about the "fog" on the map, tell him that he doesn't have one on his screen.

I'm tired of flying with a permanent white veil whatever the weather conditions.

Or Il2 should include a color saturation and contrast setting.

[TCW_Brzi_Joe]

6 minutes ago, LLv24_Zami said:

As I said above, there`s also responsibility on Pimax to make their gear work in different games.

Now you are not only rude, but incompetent also. Pimax is leader in VR field. Canted displays are future. They already made possible ways to play "older games", at cost of performance. Enough performance to lose my chances in multiplayer.

 

 IL-2 already made effort and rise this sim to another/better level. No need for workarounds, game is made for canted displays. That is already here, just zoom still does not work. 

[LLv24_Zami]

4 minutes ago, Brzi_Joe said:

Now you are not only rude, but incompetent also. Pimax is leader in VR field. Canted displays are future. They already made possible ways to play "older games", at cost of performance. Enough performance to lose my chances in multiplayer.

 

 IL-2 already made effort and rise this sim to another/better level. No need for workarounds, game is made for canted displays. That is already here, just zoom still does not work. 

Sure I`m incompetent but the great leader of the VR field doesn`t work. Is this not true or what are you complaining about?

 

Get a gear that works. I`ve done it many times, not just in the computers.

 

Btw, how I`m rude when saying the truth? Pimax is minority in a MP VR players which in turn are a minority among MP crowd?

Edited June 10, 2020 by LLv24_Zami

[Dutchvdm]

Great update guys!

 

But is it possible that there is a bug with the exhaust smoke on some planes (Fw-190 A5)? After full throttle the engine start to emit heavy smoke (as intended), but this disappears after switching to a different camera view.

 

Grt M

[=621=Samikatz]

14 minutes ago, -IRRE-Axurit said:

I used reshade to increase the contrasts and enhance the colors. Today I no longer have the rights, and my HP reverb whitened the images.

When I complain to a friend about the "fog" on the map, tell him that he doesn't have one on his screen.

I'm tired of flying with a permanent white veil whatever the weather conditions.

Or Il2 should include a color saturation and contrast setting.

 

If you have an NVIDIA card it might be worth checking to see if it's using full dynamic range or not in the control panel, sometimes it defaults to a limited colour range

 

 

I suppose you could always try messing with this setting, too, but I haven't tried it personally

 

[Longstrider45]

11 hours ago, Alonzo said:

 

Come play on Combat Box, we allow VREM and ReShade.

 

Nice offer! Thx!

But this is the only server, that will crash the game to desktop after some minutes of gamepaly... so NOGO for me!

Edited June 10, 2020 by Longstrider45

[Stoopy]

27 minutes ago, -IRRE-Axurit said:

I used reshade to increase the contrasts and enhance the colors. Today I no longer have the rights, and my HP reverb whitened the images.

....

 

Hold up a second, please.   I have an HP reverb, and ReShade has never worked with it.  Are you saying that prior ot the 4.007 update, you got ReShade to work in VR with the HP Reverb?  

[Talisman]

35 minutes ago, Brzi_Joe said:

Now you are not only rude, but incompetent also. Pimax is leader in VR field. Canted displays are future. They already made possible ways to play "older games", at cost of performance. Enough performance to lose my chances in multiplayer.

 

 IL-2 already made effort and rise this sim to another/better level. No need for workarounds, game is made for canted displays. That is already here, just zoom still does not work. 

 

Zoom works great in DCS and parallel projection not needed there, so perhaps IL-2 GB can deliver a zoom that works for canted displays too.

 

Happy landings,

 

56RAF_Talisman