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=GEMINI=Hawkmoon98
34 minutes ago, 6./ZG26_Saker said:

I see "pilots killed" does that mean chute shooting will be encouraged?

it's always been a thing in taw

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JG77_Knipser
23 minutes ago, 6./ZG26_Saker said:

I see "pilots killed" does that mean chute shooting will be encouraged?

Dude, it's TAW! Chute killing was always allowed and will always be. Stop bringing up this same topic over and over again. TAW needs some fresh ideas to make it more interesting again and i'm curious what LG will come up with... but they will definitely not change that rule.

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E69_Falke_Wolf

Great!! Good idea to mantain motivation to keep flying even when losing the map.

 

Complaining about puntuation system starting in 3, 2, 1........

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FTC_DerSheriff

I appreciate more granular map results.

13 hours ago, =LG=Blakhart said:

Motivation. 

Everyone have different. 

Why we fight in TAW ?
For fun ? For stats ? To feel this adrenaline rush which only this place can give in this unique way ?
Everyone have different answers.

But worst thing is to loose it. 

At some maps when one side was very close to achieve one of the victory conditions some players from oposite side were leaving active flying because they didnt see any sense. Sometimes side who was wining the map were loosing the tanks due to stupid airbases location or other arcade features which are not realistic compare to real conflict.

First new feature on which magnificent Kathon is working is new victory point system.

 

Now even when one side is achieving one of the conditions, second can still make a draw or steal some points for overall ranking. 

Check this table and leave your comments ;)
Next features soon.
 

71941622_pointsystem.png.9143b150f531c1d7d647e7dff2daaecf.png

 

And dont belive those who think we work ONLY under planeset ;)

New Tactical Air War 2.0 - No mercy - is coming :)


I have a bit of a hard time reading that chart.

Maybe can you describe whats happening on some examples? Like what happens when a team loses all tanks, but still wins the map because the enemy team ran out of pilots? Result is 3-2? what does that mean? 1.5 points?
What happens when more results are combined?
What happens when my team destroyed all enemy tanks is holding more than 60% of the map, but lost due to planes?
 

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6./ZG26_Saker
1 hour ago, =GEMINI=Hawkmoon98 said:

it's always been a thing in taw

 

1 hour ago, JG77_Knipser said:

Dude, it's TAW! Chute killing was always allowed and will always be. Stop bringing up this same topic over and over again. TAW needs some fresh ideas to make it more interesting again and i'm curious what LG will come up with... but they will definitely not change that rule.

I'm sort of new so it was a genuine question. Thank you guys for answering so enthusiastically.

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Cpt_Siddy
1 hour ago, 6./ZG26_Saker said:

I see "pilots killed" does that mean chute shooting will be encouraged?

 

I hope so. 

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E69_Falke_Wolf
1 hour ago, ACG_DerSheriff said:

am ran out of pilots? Result is 3-2? what does that mean? 1.5 points?
 


I guess it means 3 point to one team and 2 points to the other.....
Total score of point at the end of the TAW will decide the winner, isn´t it?

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FTC_Vietkong_Evil

TAW has never ran out of pilots on any map. Just make Chute killing an option, not a motivation with number of pilots killed. It wasn´t like in the war there was a quota of Chutes to shootup...

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FTC_DerSheriff
Just now, ACG_Vietkong said:

TAW has never ran out of pilots on any map. Just make Chute killing an option, not a motivation with number of pilots killed. It wasn´t like in the war there was a quota of Chutes to shootup...

I remember cases where teams lost all pilots.

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FTC_Vietkong_Evil
Just now, ACG_DerSheriff said:

I remember cases where teams lost all pilots.

Must have been a very long time ago....

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7.GShAP/Silas
3 hours ago, Cpt_Siddy said:

Few years ago, draining of pilots was actually quite common way to flip maps. 

 

Good times, being Morlocks and dragging Eloi underground.

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JG77_Ammi
4 hours ago, ACG_DerSheriff said:

I remember cases where teams lost all pilots.

super bloody last stand airfield battles for days until one side ran out of pilots. the good old carnage - good old times 😄

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Blakhart

Brace yourself! TAW is coming! 

 

Mandatory brief for the allied and axis comanders,XO or liaison officers.

17.00 GMT at TAW TS today 01.04.2021.

comunication language - English 

 

 

P.s

Its not 1st april joke, also TAW will not start today.

Before we start campaign we need to set some rules and explain planned registration process.

Also I will reveal some features for next season.

Any squad without representative cant claim requests later during the campaign.

 

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Preedee

Squadron name: FETA

Number of active pilots: 3

Side: Allies

Time zone: GMT-5 (US EAST)

also, 🤨 April 1st meeting? a little SUS  

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-=RedS=-Str1ke
8 часов назад, =LG=Blakhart сказал:

Brace yourself! TAW is coming! 

 

Mandatory brief for the allied and axis comanders,XO or liaison officers.

17.00 at TAW TS today 01.04.2021.

comunication language - English 

 

 

P.s

Its not 1st april joke, also TAW will not start today.

Before we start campaign we need to set some rules and explain planned registration process.

Also I will reveal some features for next season.

Any squad without representative cant claim requests later during the campaign.

 

17:00 of what time zone?

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SCG_Fenris_Wolf
1 hour ago, -=RedS=-Str1ke said:

17:00 of what time zone?

1800 GMT+1 (e.g.Germany) , 1700 GMT

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FTC_DerSheriff

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Just that we are clear.

9 hours ago, =LG=Blakhart said:

Any squad without representative cant claim requests later during the campaign.

requesting what exactly? Changes? 
I doubt campaign participation.

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=GEMINI=IngegnerTommy
1 hour ago, SCG_Fenris_Wolf said:

1800 GMT+1 (e.g.Germany) , 1700 GMT

 

That's confusing 😄 Germany is GMT+2 in summertime, so the meeting is at 19.00 German Time...

 

17.00 GMT should be clear enough, if there's any doubt just google "GMT time" to know what time is it :)

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Squadron name: [-=BP=-]

Number of active pilots: 5

Side: Allies

Time zone: GMT+2 (Warsaw)

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=gRiJ=ToReRo

Squadron name: =gRiJ=

Number of active pilots: 15 

Side: Allies 

Time zone: EU

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JG77_Ammi
5 hours ago, =LG=Blakhart said:

Fixed in post

 

17.00 GMT brief 

 

👍

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335th_GRSwaty

Squadron name: 335th_GR

Number of active pilots: 10 

Side: Axis 

Time zone: GMT +2 (Athens)

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SCG_Fenris_Wolf
7 hours ago, =GEMINI=IngegnerTommy said:

 

That's confusing 😄 Germany is GMT+2 in summertime, so the meeting is at 19.00 German Time...

 

17.00 GMT should be clear enough, if there's any doubt just google "GMT time" to know what time is it :)

Oh hell yeah true. Verdammt! I guess I'm one hour early :biggrin:

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JG1_Vonrd

Mandatory brief for the allied and axis comanders,XO or liaison officers.

17.00 at TAW TS today 01.04.2021.

 

That's going to be difficult (impossible) for any North / South Americans who have a day job. 

 

Any squad without representative cant claim requests later during the campaign.

 

What does this mean?

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VF-31_Killer_B

VF31 Tomcatters

Active Members: StuntPuppy, Killer B, Moose

Allies

TZ Central, Mountain, Perth

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VF-31_StuntPuppy

content deleted, tone of my post was bad and based on assumption and my annoyance at ambiguous wording.

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JG700_Rammjager

Squadron name: JG700

Number of active pilots: 3

Side: Axis 

Time zone: GMT +2 (Warsaw)

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=GEMINI=IngegnerTommy

To LG  team: 

 

Thanks for the intro briefing today, it was nice to receive a bit of background on TAW development.

In general we are curious to see this new pilot “career” idea, which has a lot of potential in terms of immersion/realism.

 

Our only fear is about the way certain line of the planeset are structured (provisionally), in particular considering that making points to reach the more advance plane is always challenging we might see very few bombers around. 

 

We always say TAW is mostly dedicated to squadrons, but this also means people likes to try to make attack formations having a similar plane and making the bombers so difficult to unlock( 88/111 for example on axis side) means most of the time we we’ll have at least few pilots unavailable and so we’ll fall back to use the First planes (Stuka or Henschel) which are also equal or similar to “basic planes”. Do you see the issue I’m describing?

 

Our reccomendation would be to try to consider making bombers available immediately or at least more easily, for example a line with:
1/1 BF110
0/2 JU88

 

This would make the bomber more likely available for most of the squadrons’ pilot AND give as “entry” plane for this career line something different than a “basic” plane.

This is the voice of a single squadrons, but I heard a similar comment today also from one of the FF guys and I believe other 2-3 squadrons had a similar view.


Maybe some will react to this post to show they have the same fear, hopefully this leads to a constructive discussion 🙂

 

thanks!

=GEMINI= IngegnerTommy

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Blakhart
12 minutes ago, =GEMINI=IngegnerTommy said:

 

 

Our reccomendation would be to try to consider making bombers available immediately or at least more easily, for example a line with:
1/1 BF110
0/2 JU88

 


Its intentional. Follow battle orders, then you will be rewarded.
No shortcuts.

Put some effort ;]

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=GEMINI=IngegnerTommy

Sorry @=LG=Blakhart but it’s a bit disappointing to go explain  in detail the issue I see and being cut down like I’m an annoying kid asking to “get things easy”.
 

Big bomber sorties are one the “magic things” that happens only in TAW, Gemini has been of those for many previous edition, and all I’m saying is that with this kind of selections we’ll likely not be able to go in that direction, and so probably many others.

 

Again it’s not a criticism to the idea of the “pilot career”, which is nice, but I’m trying to point out a potential negative side issue. Hope you see my point, it’s a perspective from someone who loves TAW and loves doing big nice sorties on it! 

 

 

 

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Blakhart
5 minutes ago, =GEMINI=IngegnerTommy said:

Sorry @=LG=Blakhart but it’s a bit disappointing to go explain  in detail the issue I see and being cut down like I’m an annoying kid asking to “get things easy”.
 

Big bomber sorties are one the “magic things” that happens only in TAW, Gemini has been of those for many previous edition, and all I’m saying is that with this kind of selections we’ll likely not be able to go in that direction, and so probably many others.

 

Again it’s not a criticism to the idea of the “pilot career”, which is nice, but I’m trying to point out a potential negative side issue. Hope you see my point, it’s a perspective from someone who loves TAW and loves doing big nice sorties on it! 

 

Thats why its better to talk on TS than on forum. No bad intention at all. I know its different and harder than it was before but this is how it will be done.
 

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=GEMINI=IngegnerTommy
21 minutes ago, =LG=Blakhart said:

 

Thats why its better to talk on TS than on forum. No bad intention at all. I know its different and harder than it was before but this is how it will be done.
 


Ok then I misunderstood, sorry.

 

I was under the impression you wanted to use today’s meeting to introduce this idea and collect feedbacks (same comment as mine WAS raised also on TS), but I see instead decision has already been taken.

 

At this point I can only say I trust your judgment and hope this works well, unfortunately I know that myself (and likely the whole squadron) will be forced to give up bombers and look at the other categories. A pity for sure, but I acknowledge your decision. 
 

Thanks for taking the time to answer, in any case. 👍🏻
 


 

 

 

 

 

 

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JG77_Knipser

Thanks @=LG=Blakhart for the TS Meeting. Had to leave after one hour, hope i didn't miss anything important. I really like the new plane-system a lot, nice work! I'm really looking forward to the next campaign.

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