SakerVVS Posted March 14, 2021 Posted March 14, 2021 8 hours ago, =LG=Blakhart said: Fun fact no 1. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YTAYzCL_MTXNQ-CSM6yZCi3AGcsGoS81O8rHlqJDtes/edit#gid=174068285 This is initial sheet where you can check numbers, balance and so on. Funniest thing is another teams register without any basic care about shape, gameplay and sense of next campaign. How cool is that Already around 200 blue vs 140 reds But no worries... We already prepare solution. Blakhart we took the team balance into consideration, but we will probably have an average of 3-4 people flying for a total of 6 hours per week. I doubt that this will have much of an impact on the outcome. Also as you said there are "solutions" in place. I really hope the toxicity calms down in this thread this season.
Blakhart Posted March 14, 2021 Posted March 14, 2021 6 minutes ago, 6./ZG26_Saker said: No worries The registration limits for our campaign will do the job.
JG5_Schuck Posted March 14, 2021 Posted March 14, 2021 9 hours ago, =LG=Blakhart said: Fun fact no 1. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YTAYzCL_MTXNQ-CSM6yZCi3AGcsGoS81O8rHlqJDtes/edit#gid=174068285 This is initial sheet where you can check numbers, balance and so on. Funniest thing is another teams register without any basic care about shape, gameplay and sense of next campaign. How cool is that Already around 200 blue vs 140 reds But no worries... We already prepare solution. My idea was no so much to balance teams, (although it may help to) but to reflect the historic availability of aircraft. And the ability of each side to replace damaged aircraft. But i'm sure i'll still enjoy the server what ever solution you come up with!
Gangloff Posted March 14, 2021 Posted March 14, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, =LG=Blakhart said: No worries The registration limits for our campaign will do the job. you are aware of the fact that you kill the taw more and more the more restriction you implement. one question: how do you want to balance flight time? look at the pilot numbers of the last campaign. looks like even numbers for me. but the discusion about balance was more than ever. you cant see how much time every pilotinvests in the campaign. and this is were inbalance comes from. Edited March 14, 2021 by JG77_Ammi 1 1
Blakhart Posted March 14, 2021 Posted March 14, 2021 17 minutes ago, JG77_Ammi said: Yes, we are. It will be counted to. At the end of western campaign numbers were even. Thats why you have this data. On eastern front things will go in different way because of lack of spits, stangs and temps. 2
Giovanni_Giorgio Posted March 14, 2021 Posted March 14, 2021 (edited) 31 minutes ago, JG77_Ammi said: you are aware of the fact that you kill the taw more and more the more restriction you implement. Did you play the previous Eastern Front campaign, where on most of the maps the reds were pushed into the corner with 1-2 airfields within 36-48 after the start of a map? The whole thing was just ridiculous, a lot of folks were already thinking that TAW was dead. I strongly support the TAW team in their efforts to balance the sides. Ok, it could be imperfect, but if the community fails to recognize that extremely unbalanced teams destroy the whole experience, then from my point of view, some restrictions should be applied. Speaking about the numbers, total pilot counts don't matter that much. What matters are the large squads that are capable of executing effective ground attack operations that can move the front line. Singleton players have little to no impact (with some exceptions of course). Edited March 14, 2021 by =TH=mincer 4
Coldman Posted March 14, 2021 Posted March 14, 2021 current list of squadrons for next TAW. You got this tool to balance sides by Yourself. If You don't we will force balancing. Simple fair and honest i think. 1 1 3
BubiHUN Posted March 14, 2021 Posted March 14, 2021 (edited) Squadron name: -[HRAF] Time Zone: Europe CET +2 Side: Axis Active Pilots: 8+ Edited March 15, 2021 by -[HRAF]BubiHUN 1
ACG_Medln Posted March 14, 2021 Posted March 14, 2021 2 hours ago, =LG=Blakhart said: Yes, we are. It will be counted to. At the end of western campaign numbers were even. Thats why you have this data. On eastern front things will go in different way because of lack of spits, stangs and temps. even when you guys make it more valuable at getting a kill and adding balance towards how many people are on each side pls remember its going to be boring as hell when you search for just 1 109 with 5 yaks that are flying around the spot on where the 109 was seen on
Gangloff Posted March 14, 2021 Posted March 14, 2021 31 minutes ago, =TH=mincer said: Did you play the previous Eastern Front campaign, where on most of the maps the reds were pushed into the corner with 1-2 airfields within 36-48 after the start of a map? The whole thing was just ridiculous, a lot of folks were already thinking that TAW was dead. I strongly support the TAW team in their efforts to balance the sides. Ok, it could be imperfect, but if the community fails to recognize that extremely unbalanced teams destroy the whole experience, then from my point of view, some restrictions should be applied. Speaking about the numbers, total pilot counts don't matter that much. What matters are the large squads that are capable of executing effective ground attack operations that can move the front line. Singleton players have little to no impact (with some exceptions of course). I fly taw for years. i remember the time the red side dominated everything. last 3 taw i flew for the red side. the balance problem is a thing since player numbers begun to decrease. i think a lot of you guys can remember times when you could not enter the server in the evening, for sometimes hours, because the server was filled to the limit. its rly easy in the end. i dont need taw and i will not let someone force me to fly for one side. you guys overrate the importance of your server. the limited amount of players posting here is not your main playerbase. most guys fly on taw are silent. and they decided by the fun and freedom of action they have. if someone of you gets salty now. this post is meant to trigger. have fun. 1
WokeUpDead Posted March 14, 2021 Posted March 14, 2021 If you fly on the smaller side and die, you lose less than a full life; for example if your team is outnumbered 2:1 you will only lose half a life. My question is: does the calculation determining how much life you lose occur the moment you spawn in or the moment you die?
E69_Falke_Wolf Posted March 14, 2021 Posted March 14, 2021 (edited) Sice the "balance problem" is related to how many players are actually flying rather than how many have registered on the web (but may or may not be flying), it wouldn't be easier to be more restrictive on "real-time balance" at each mission and further limit the access of players on the side that already has more pilots flying? Instead of putting all the importance on the registration of players or squads who could then fly 1-2 hours a week. In my squad (E69) there may be 20-30 registered pilots, but if you check the data, it is very unusual that there are more than 8-10 flying simultaneously (and some days no one is flying at all or maybe just one). Maybe it would be enough to be more restrictive in access to the mission at the moment when there is no balance or use some kind of "quorum" needed for the mission counts. That could also help fix the problem of having 20vs5 flying in the afternoon and 5vs20 at night. Just my opinion, I'm sure it has been tested in the past. Edited March 14, 2021 by E69_Falke_Wolf
=AD=Kap-the-head Posted March 15, 2021 Posted March 15, 2021 =TPE3BOE HE6O= flies for the allies. For some reason they are not listed. Unless I am blind, then forgive me.
=AD=Denisik_FL Posted March 15, 2021 Posted March 15, 2021 1 hour ago, =TH=Kap-the-head said: =TPE3BOE HE6O= flies for the allies. For some reason they are not listed. Unless I am blind, then forgive me. most likely Coldman missed this information 1 1
SakerVVS Posted March 15, 2021 Posted March 15, 2021 16 hours ago, E69_Falke_Wolf said: Sice the "balance problem" is related to how many players are actually flying rather than how many have registered on the web (but may or may not be flying), it wouldn't be easier to be more restrictive on "real-time balance" at each mission and further limit the access of players on the side that already has more pilots flying? Instead of putting all the importance on the registration of players or squads who could then fly 1-2 hours a week. In my squad (E69) there may be 20-30 registered pilots, but if you check the data, it is very unusual that there are more than 8-10 flying simultaneously (and some days no one is flying at all or maybe just one). Maybe it would be enough to be more restrictive in access to the mission at the moment when there is no balance or use some kind of "quorum" needed for the mission counts. That could also help fix the problem of having 20vs5 flying in the afternoon and 5vs20 at night. Just my opinion, I'm sure it has been tested in the past. +1 would be nice for tracking numbers if there was a better metric as some players will fly many, many more hours than others.
LLv24_Robbe Posted March 15, 2021 Posted March 15, 2021 Hey all. Squadron: LLv24 Time Zone: CTM +2Side: Axis What is active pilot? 50h, 100h 0r 150h.Active Pilots: 10-12, 6-8 and 2-4 -Robbe-
SCG_Wulfe Posted March 15, 2021 Posted March 15, 2021 (edited) On 3/13/2021 at 8:31 PM, =LG=Blakhart said: Fun fact no 1. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YTAYzCL_MTXNQ-CSM6yZCi3AGcsGoS81O8rHlqJDtes/edit#gid=174068285 This is initial sheet where you can check numbers, balance and so on. Funniest thing is another teams register without any basic care about shape, gameplay and sense of next campaign. How cool is that Already around 200 blue vs 140 reds But no worries... We already prepare solution. Hi Blakhart. I don't think it's quite as lopsided as it may appear. It looks like these two submissions were missed on the previous page: Squadron name: -DED- Number of active pilots: 5 Side: Allies Time zone: Europe 19:00-23:00 +3GMT Squadron name: =OPFR= Number of active pilots: 12 Side: Allies Time zone: US MST (-7GMT) Especially for the American timezone: (-5GMT to -8GMT) things are looking pretty even. I'm excited. Edit: Darn, also looks like JG5 was missed which erodes the allied addition a bit... however still looking good for the American time zone Squadron name: Jagdgeschwader 5 (JG5) Number of active pilots: 5 (possibly 6) Side: Axis Time Zone: GMT 20:00hrs a couple of times a week! (maybe a bit more if the missus is not about!) Edited March 15, 2021 by SCG_Wulfe 2
CSW_606_Druindin Posted March 16, 2021 Posted March 16, 2021 (edited) On 3/13/2021 at 8:48 PM, =LG=Blakhart said: No. But You are next on the list... don't touch our mole, you better catch your own beavers Edited March 16, 2021 by CSW_606_Druindin 3
[FF]Saiyon Posted March 16, 2021 Posted March 16, 2021 Squadron name: [FF] Number of active pilots: 5 Side: Allies Time zone: Europe (mainly Europe small overspill into US).
FTC_Kongoo Posted March 16, 2021 Posted March 16, 2021 ACG should probably be split evenly between allied and axis. 30 on each side registered, more or less. 15 Active.
Blakhart Posted March 16, 2021 Posted March 16, 2021 9 hours ago, CSW_606_Druindin said: nasty creatures
Cpt_Siddy Posted March 18, 2021 Posted March 18, 2021 I sure do hope TAW wont start anytime soon. 1 2
[GCA]T1m270 Posted March 19, 2021 Posted March 19, 2021 (edited) Remove U2 and add GAZ AA in its place pls Edited March 19, 2021 by [GCA]T1m270
Blakhart Posted March 19, 2021 Posted March 19, 2021 Hi folks! I`m badly looking for few experts from Blue/German side with good historical background to confront some aspects of future planeset. Plz contact me via forum PM / TAW TS3 or Discord. This is the time, when you can help and polish the shape of the project. Later will be too late
Cpt_Siddy Posted March 19, 2021 Posted March 19, 2021 (edited) plz dont start now Edited March 19, 2021 by Cpt_Siddy 1
SV7_Faint Posted March 20, 2021 Posted March 20, 2021 cant wait for TAW :(((( tell me plz - wheeeeeennnnn ?
=AD=Kap-the-head Posted March 20, 2021 Posted March 20, 2021 Can we wait until I get my Virpil set-up before we start TAW? Thanks. I'll let you know when it's scheduled to arrive. ? 1
[GCA]T1m270 Posted March 21, 2021 Posted March 21, 2021 (edited) Its happening!!!! Edited March 21, 2021 by [GCA]T1m270
Cpt_Siddy Posted March 22, 2021 Posted March 22, 2021 On 3/21/2021 at 11:19 AM, [GCA]T1m270 said: Its happening!!!! no its not
=AD=Str1ke Posted March 22, 2021 Posted March 22, 2021 2 часа назад, Cpt_Siddy сказал: Stop smoking Siddy!
Cpt_Siddy Posted March 22, 2021 Posted March 22, 2021 1 hour ago, -=RedS=-Str1ke said: Stop smoking Siddy! clearly you are not protected against supermaneuvrable air-defence fighter aircrafts... 1
Blakhart Posted March 23, 2021 Posted March 23, 2021 I`m looking for VVS RKKA historical experts who can help with polishing the planeset. I need accurate( correct dates/months/numbers) data for campaigns/maps ( different periods) Moscov, Stalingrad, Kuban. Moscow 1/1941 Axis Offensive Operation Taifun I02.09.1941-10.1941 Moscow 2/1941 Draw Operation Taifun II01.11.1941- 12.1941 Moscow 3/1941-42 Allied counteroffensive Moscov strategic offensive05.12.1941- 1.1942 Stalingrad 4/1942 Axis offensive Operation Fischreiher 22.07.1942-08.1942 Kuban 5/1942 Axis offensive Edelweiss I 23.08.1942-09.1942 Stalingrad 6/1942 Draw Operation Hubertus&Uranus 09.1942-11.1942 Stalingrad 7/1942-43 Allied counteroffensive Operation Wintergewitter & Koltso 12.12.1942-02.1943 Kuban 8/1942 Draw Operation Edelweiss II & Skachok 12.01.1942-04.1943 Kuban 9/1942 Allied counteroffensive Kuban-Brückenkopf 04.1943-06.1943 Also I would like to confirm mostly used attack(JABO) soviet fighter during those campaigns. Please use pm with logical arguments from net sources/books/aviation-historical magazines plus When and where : - when and where A-20 B was in duty ? - Pe-2 FT modification was firstly used ? - MiG-3 Shvak was used in operational service? -IL-2 42 was used ? - IL-2 43 ? - Yak 1b - When first La-5 with 82 engine mods were used ? ? - Yak 7b ??
Cpt_Siddy Posted March 23, 2021 Posted March 23, 2021 Dude, we got like less than 10 planes/side that fit the time periods, and some of them, like mig-3 was made in minuscule quantities. Also, many models we got now were series productions that are late to mid runs. There is huge difference from first series release to some mid point serials. There is no way you can go history nerd with what we got, you just improvise and see what fit what. 7
ACG_Medln Posted March 23, 2021 Posted March 23, 2021 4 hours ago, Cpt_Siddy said: Dude, we got like less than 10 planes/side that fit the time periods, and some of them, like mig-3 was made in minuscule quantities. Also, many models we got now were series productions that are late to mid runs. There is huge difference from first series release to some mid point serials. There is no way you can go history nerd with what we got, you just improvise and see what fit what. 100% Agree We all love the historical accuracy aspect of it, but gameplay wise we all want some balance in the game to also enjoy it, I'm sure no one here would literally want to fly as a soviet pilot in the eastern front irl in 1943 2
=GEMINI=IngegnerTommy Posted March 23, 2021 Posted March 23, 2021 I'd agree with the two previous post, surely we appreciate the historical accuracy but not when it's too restrictive in term of balance and variety of plane setset / gameplay. I am confident you will be able to find the good compromise so that the experience is nice for all pilots
[GCA]T1m270 Posted March 23, 2021 Posted March 23, 2021 Planeset from last Eastern front was pretty balanced no? 1
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