Tactical Air War

[TWC_Ace]

1 hour ago, =LG=Coldman said:

I dont get Your point. Both sides has 4 fighters available. In addition germans have me 262 that is a unicorn cause only 1% can take IT. So more like 3 fighters plus me 262. G14 is much slower than p47 150 octane. This is plane set from bodenplate.

P47 is no match to g14. It needs a lot of time and engine management to get to that fictional speed. Its less maneuverable also. Btw how many times you guys flew allied planes to comfortable judge them?. Also there were 2 me262s on the server. This is getting ridiculous we are arguing with an "animals in a farm about a farm".

I expect you to ban spit 14 in the future.

Enough of this for me. bye

Edited January 31, 2021 by =VARP=Tvrdi

[Rafcio]

1 hour ago, =VARP=Tvrdi said:

Btw how many times you guys flew allied planes to comfortable judge them?.

You can see here.

http://forgotten-taw.tuttovola.org/

LG change side every campaign. This is our first for blue side on west front. 

 

You need to know what you are writing about, and if you don't know, it is better not to write, because you can write something stupid and then you have to delete your posts like some people.

Also don't cry. War is for men and men do not cry, they fight like 300 Spartans. Little boys are crying, but for them there is a place in the sandbox.

Edited January 31, 2021 by =L/R=Rafcio
No reason.

[Ribbon]

And this why i deleted my original post....to avoid retarded replies from "Spartans"?

[Rafcio]

8 minutes ago, =VARP=Ribbon said:

And this why i deleted my original post....to avoid retarded replies from "Spartans"?

 

You should have thought before you wrote. And so you write, you delete. Why are you making a fuss. As you fly as you write, I am not surprised that later it is just crying on the forum.

[Ribbon]

55 minutes ago, =L/R=Rafcio said:

 

You should have thought before you wrote. And so you write, you delete. Why are you making a fuss. As you fly as you write, I am not surprised that later it is just crying on the forum.

Dunning Kruger effect is strong on this one!

What i wrote is valid, why don't you show us how to fight in p47 vs g14 mr.Spartan, i'm willing to be the guy in g14

And grow up and learn how to behave!

 

Edited January 31, 2021 by =VARP=Ribbon

[Rafcio]

22 minutes ago, =VARP=Ribbon said:

Dunning Kruger effect is strong on this one!

What i wrote is valid, why don't you show us how to fight in p47 vs g14 mr.Spartan, i'm willing to be the guy in g14

And grow up and learn how to behave!

 

One of the hallmarks of adulthood is reading comprehension. There is probably something wrong with that with you. I haven't written anything about my skills before. I just wrote about not crying on the forum. In fact, TAW is not for everyone. And with this I end the discussion on my part.

[=OPFR=the_rooster]

40 minutes ago, =VARP=Ribbon said:

Dunning Kruger effect is strong on this one!

What i wrote is valid, why don't you show us how to fight in p47 vs g14 mr.Spartan, i'm willing to be the guy in g14

And grow up and learn how to behave!

 

Easy climb to 30k and wait lol but. Seriously the 47 is a great plane just have to fly it to its strengths if I get a enemy any plane besides a 262 is on my six outside of gun range I go into a slight dive to gain equal speed than go into a high speed climb and keep climbing to over 30k where the 109 or 190 has lost all energy than attack. It’s a slow process but it works and effective I just love watching 109s try to stay with me up to that altitude. Stuck down low in a jug flaps are very effective in a 1 vs 1 but if there are multiple enemies your in a bad situation. I love flying it 

Edited January 31, 2021 by =OPFR=the_rooster

[Ribbon]

41 minutes ago, =LG=Blakhart said:

2. Blue have heavy FW-190 G-8 as a +1 plane , not Bf-109 G-14. Bf-109 you need to earn by making Combat Missions same as Spit IX or P51.

And yes we can do P47 vs G-8 1vs1 duels baby !

Even P47 vs G-14, I ll just run, climb and then kill you with E advantage ? it will take and hour, but yes we can do it ?   ?

I see in fighter section:

109g14, 190d9, 109k4, 262 vs spit9, p47, p51 and tempest.....i don't see 190a8 in there.

My suggestion is to move p47 among attackers and provide extra Spit to balance firepower and fighter capabilities.

That is the root of my feedback!

I don't want to climb for an hour just to make one pass with "50cal".

But as i said your server, your rules...take it as you want!

 

Cheers!

[TWC_Ace]

7 minutes ago, =VARP=Ribbon said:

I see in fighter section:

109g14, 190d9, 109k4, 262 vs spit9, p47, p51 and tempest.....i don't see 190a8 in there.

My suggestion is to move p47 among attackers and provide extra Spit to balance firepower and fighter capabilities.

That is the root of my feedback!

I don't want to climb for an hour just to make one pass with "50cal".

But as i said your server, your rules...take it as you want!

 

Cheers!

Its not his server its his egomania. 

[=OPFR=the_rooster]

Hope to see y’all on tonight blackhart it’s nice to have some solid competition on During east coast evening time our squad appreciates any European players who can fly out at that time. I’ll be back in the jug hanging out at 30k 

[Ribbon]

Ok...me and Blakhart had some shooting trainings ?

Before that he explained me server logic and planeset logic a bit deeper than even is in manual...thnk you very much for that!

It should not get to these forum wars so it's best to stop here on that matter.

Taw is well thought server for both sides and guys keep improving it, thank you for that and keep up the good job!

[JG7_X-Man]

Question: Where did you guys get the idea that the P-47D was more maneuverable than a Bf 109G-14, let alone Fw 190D-9 and Bf 109K-4.

 

This the most truthful comparison I have read about the P-47D

 

https://weaponsandwarfare.com/2020/05/01/dogfight-p-47-v-fw190/ 

 

It also goes on to say at altitude the preferred tactics was "energy fighting".

 

This actually backs up the logic behind the 9th USAAF not using 150 octane fuel. Increasing the wear-n-tear on the engine for minimal to no gain in performance in their primary role as ground attack aircraft.

Edited February 1, 2021 by JG7_X-Man

[72AG_SerWolf]

11 часов назад, =OPFR=the_rooster сказал:

Hope to see y’all on tonight blackhart it’s nice to have some solid competition on During east coast evening time our squad appreciates any European players who can fly out at that time. I’ll be back in the jug hanging out at 30k 

Hope to see you in the sky at europan prime time

its so borings to fly without enemy planes, I guess?

[Blakhart]

8 hours ago, =VARP=Ribbon said:

 

Thx for coming to TS and good fights Rib! 
I think its the best way to solve problems. Talk instead of making forum wars.

 

Also, if anyone else dont understand something "how TAW logic/planeset works" please hit us up at TAW TS3 instead of offending at forum.

Cheers!

 

 

 

 

 

[[GCA]T1m270]

I think Red will take this one, its a very noticeable difference in the commitment of ground attackers on Red playing the objectives rather than concentrating on interception.

[FTC_Kongoo]

Another day in the TAW forums!?

[Giovanni_Giorgio]

1 minute ago, ACG_Vietkong said:

Another day in the TAW forums!?

Yeah, this stuff never gets old 

[Barnacles]

5 hours ago, JG7_X-Man said:

Question: Where did you guys get the idea that the P-47D was more maneuverable than a Bf 109G-14, let alone Fw 190D-9 and Bf 109K-4.

 

This the most truthful comparison I have read about the P-47D

 

https://weaponsandwarfare.com/2020/05/01/dogfight-p-47-v-fw190/ 

 

It also goes on to say at altitude the preferred tactics was "energy fighting".

 

This actually backs up the logic behind the 9th USAAF not using 150 octane fuel. Increasing the wear-n-tear on the engine for minimal to no gain in performance in their primary role as ground attack aircraft.

That comparison is regarding an early '44 P47 without water injection.

later on it mentions a top speed on the deck of 310mph, which is far slower than the ones in game. The D22 is in fact faster than the 190-D9 at all altitudes, and starts to out climb it at a much lower altitude than the 25kft mentioned in that comparison.

[Giovanni_Giorgio]

On 1/27/2021 at 7:19 PM, =LG=Mad_Mikhael said:

IIRC 150-grade fuel for P-47 attacker is locked because it wasn't used by the 9th Air Force.

Since we are are going into such fine historic details, why are half of the tanks in German columns, and 100% of the tanks in defenses and random groups are Tigers? Is there any data showing that more than half (!) of the tanks used by Germany on the Western fron in 44-45 were Tigers?

Edited February 1, 2021 by mincer

[LLv24_Zami]

I`ve got regular crashes to desktop in this western TAW. Otherwise game runs fine. Anyone else? 

Edited February 1, 2021 by LLv24_Zami

[=/Hospiz/=Szopen]

46 minutes ago, LLv24_Zami said:

I`ve got regular crashes to desktop in this western TAW. Otherwise game runs fine. Anyone else? 

 

I had them as well, seems that these missions on Rheinland map are overloading RAM sometimes, try reducing horizon drawing distance and turn Distant Buildings off, may help a little.

 

In which situations/conditions the crashes occured?

Edited February 1, 2021 by =L/R=Szopen

[[GCA]T1m270]

How much WAM are you running? 

[LLv24_Zami]

33 minutes ago, =L/R=Szopen said:

 

I had them as well, seems that these missions on Rheinland map are overloading RAM sometimes, try reducing horizon drawing distance and turn Distant Buildings off, may help a little.

 

In which situations/conditions the crashes occured?

Usually mission which have lasted longer time but I can`t see any special pattern. Normally I fly in the evening european time so there`s a lot of other flyers in the server.  Usually screen freeze for a moment and game crash to desktop. Could be a RAM thing like you said.

10 minutes ago, [GCA]T1m270 said:

How much WAM are you running? 

16GB.

[72AG_SerWolf]

1 час назад, LLv24_Zami сказал:

Usually mission which have lasted longer time but I can`t see any special pattern. Normally I fly in the evening european time so there`s a lot of other flyers in the server.  Usually screen freeze for a moment and game crash to desktop. Could be a RAM thing like you said.

16GB.

Check for swap files. must be free space on HDD or SSD for it, and size of swap file by the system.

[LLv24_Zami]

45 minutes ago, 72AG_SerWolf said:

Check for swap files. must be free space on HDD or SSD for it, and size of swap file by the system.

Thanks, I'll check it.

[JG7_X-Man]

9 hours ago, Barnacles said:

That comparison is regarding an early '44 P47 without water injection.

later on it mentions a top speed on the deck of 310mph, which is far slower than the ones in game. The D22 is in fact faster than the 190-D9 at all altitudes, and starts to out climb it at a much lower altitude than the 25kft mentioned in that comparison.

OK well let's fix it! 

[Cpt_Siddy]

https://taw.stg2.de/pilot_sortie.php?id=29544&name==LG=Cygi

 

[Mad_Mikhael]

18 hours ago, mincer said:

Since we are are going into such fine historic details, why are half of the tanks in German columns, and 100% of the tanks in defenses and random groups are Tigers? Is there any data showing that more than half (!) of the tanks used by Germany on the Western fron in 44-45 were Tigers?

Can't tell anything about it, since I was not involved at all with this. I will pass the question to the guys.

[Max16]

https://mihalchuk-1974.livejournal.com/156353.html

[PhoenixLights97]

IMO Hauptmann is not high enough for access to the 262. Look at the player list on the website on a busy day and I guarantee you 35%+ of players online are hauptmann or higher

[Blakhart]

8 minutes ago, PhoenixLights97 said:

IMO Hauptmann is not high enough for access to the 262. Look at the player list on the website on a busy day and I guarantee you 35%+ of players online are hauptmann or higher

 

Yes, we already ddiscussed that issue. Solution for next campaing in progress.

4 hours ago, Max16 said:

https://mihalchuk-1974.livejournal.com/156353.html

 

Thanks!

[Cpt_Siddy]

4 hours ago, PhoenixLights97 said:

IMO Hauptmann is not high enough for access to the 262. Look at the player list on the website on a busy day and I guarantee you 35%+ of players online are hauptmann or higher

Then start chute killing

[=AD=Kap-the-head]

Ok, I am confused... The last few maps I looked at had no blue tank columns.  If the tanks are the deciding factor in victory, then how are reds supposed destroy blue tanks if there none on the map?

[Chivas_Regal]

3 hours ago, Kap-the-head said:

Ok, I am confused... The last few maps I looked at had no blue tank columns.  If the tanks are the deciding factor in victory, then how are reds supposed destroy blue tanks if there none on the map?

 

The tanks are not the deciding factor in victory.

 

From manual:

There are three ways to win a map:

• enemy loses all its cities
• enemy has no open airfields
• enemy exceeds aircraft or pilots limit

[AKA_Relent]

3 hours ago, Kap-the-head said:

Ok, I am confused... The last few maps I looked at had no blue tank columns.  If the tanks are the deciding factor in victory, then how are reds supposed destroy blue tanks if there none on the map?

As Lawyer said, tanks are not one of the winning conditions.  However, if a side runs out of tanks they cannot advance/capture towns (well, except the Luftwaffe can up to two times per map using paratroopers, but that’s another story (see the manual).

 

if there are no advancing enemy tank columns, you can still find tanks in defensive strongpoints, and in random flak groups near the front lines.

[Blakhart]

Question to RUS community, if we would like to make an order of awards for units like being guardian unit , Order of the red star, order of the red baner.

 

Which one of them would be the most important, which 2nd, 3rd, etc. ?

[PhoenixLights97]

17 hours ago, Cpt_Siddy said:

Then start chute killing

The reds killed me in my chute every time I bailed during this campaign ( 1 time ) and I think I got Hauptmann on map 1 lol. Yesterday 50% of players online were Hauptmann or higher. Its simply too easy to get. 
 

Edit: Actually I bailed 2 times, the 2nd time they TRIED to killed me but didn't get me in time. Anywho, chute killing is not the solution

Edited February 3, 2021 by PhoenixLights97

[Payer-341763]

Just now, PhoenixLights97 said:

The reds killed me in my chute every time I bailed during this campaign ( 1 time ) and I think I got Hauptmann on map 1 lol. Yesterday 50% of players online were Hauptmann or higher. Its simply too easy to get. 
 

Edit: Actually I bailed 2 times, the 2nd time they TRIED to killed me but didn't get me in time. Anywho, chute killing is not the solution

the xp penalty for dying is not very high. people who fly a lot of missions don't care about the life system and the xp penalty. i think it rewards people who fly a lot and punishes people who fly little.
i would suggest to increase the xp penalty with the rank. if you have a low rank you lose little xp, if you have the highest rank you lose a lot of xp.

[AKA_Relent]

Didn’t mainly the experten of the experten fly the 262 (I.e. JV-44)?  Why not have just those German fliers on the top 5 list (for air to air) be allowed to fly the 262?  Now we’re talking “earn it”!

[=AD=Str1ke]

6 часов назад, =LG=Blakhart сказал:

Question to RUS community, if we would like to make an order of awards for units like being guardian unit , Order of the red star, order of the red baner.

 

Which one of them would be the most important, which 2nd, 3rd, etc. ?

1) guardian

2) guardian of the red star

3) guardian of the red banner