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It´s about realism and in my opinion, it´s a great idea to take time and heat up the engine. 

 

Yes, so incredibly realistic that with a mission ambient temp of 21°C you have to warm your engine for 5ish minutes. It's an absolute joke IMO and does nothing to improve the experience or gameplay. Winter or fall temps? sure, fair enough. I personally think it's dumb but if the TAW creators want it fine. Again, in summer temps? dumb.

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Have you ever tried balancing your server? I know silly question.

 

Limit both sides at 40 players. And an 1.5 ratio.

 

I prefer  the value +10..15 (40+10 (15)=50 (55))

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Yes, so incredibly realistic that with a mission ambient temp of 21°C you have to warm your engine for 5ish minutes. It's an absolute joke IMO and does nothing to improve the experience or gameplay. Winter or fall temps? sure, fair enough. I personally think it's dumb but if the TAW creators want it fine. Again, in summer temps? dumb.

 

seems that cold starts are a polarising issue. I like it, playing in VR with technochat and hud instruments (compass) off, it's like I am there. 

 

Last campaign I saw the WoL style launches becoming quite common, people were beginning to take off from where ever the hell they liked, and ignored taxiing to the runway. I've not seen that at all so far this campaign. Not saying that the two things are necessarily related, but warming up while you taxi could be a factor.

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The problem you describe above is Your problem, not mine.

I do not have problem to fly against 3 or 5 more ppl on server, You and few other ppl - have  ;)

As long time ago one of the LG said (Blakhart probably) - stay on heavily defended target and shoot down as many as you can, and try to stay alive. Simple. And remember - more enemies - more targets.

Right now "the best of 5 alive fighters" four are red !!

If You are not a fighter - take bomber on high alt and bomb some long ranged factory.

 

I do not ignoring anything, I just always fly on blue side. If would be 100 blues and 1 red registered I will fly on blue side. My brain and my decision :P

 

Ramm.

 

Easy to say from the stacked side I guess. Anyway, I'm still waiting for an explanation on how 50 to 17 is optimal. So far all I've gotten is some BS about how that fight is easy and anyone who disagrees is to stupid or too much of a noob to figure out how to win. I'm still waiting for my answer, not holding my breath mind.

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One other big Difference is the Massive Disproportion of English Speakers on the TS. While on the German Side you always have someone to fly with, on the Russian Side there rarely are any International Players. 

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I don't think the dual profiles is the best solution simply because TAW is really all about contributing to a single side to win the ' war'' isn't it? Well done to those who do try and balance this way though of course.

 

The solution lies in equal numbers (of those people able to regularly put the time in) registering for each side.

 

 

Maybe all the (large) squads declaring who they wish to fly for, but discussing it with others before registering, and sometimes changing over for the duration.

 

But this will always be hamstrung if there a certain number of inflexible squads.

I have done this, and a lot on my squad are going to as well, and it is a damn shame. Honestly it sucks because, it really takes away from the magic of TAW in my opinion.

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I prefer  the value +10..15 (40+10 (15)=50 (55))

 

So but I cannot make out any sense in this. If you put the limit at 55 you can leave it off entirely. If you have it at 45 you already have a difference of 10 players to the smaller team which will then have 35 players max. And thats already a compromise, but one that quite many people here find acceptable for both the smaller as well as the larger team.

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Easy to say from the stacked side I guess. Anyway, I'm still waiting for an explanation on how 50 to 17 is optimal. So far all I've gotten is some BS about how that fight is easy and anyone who disagrees is to stupid or too much of a noob to figure out how to win. I'm still waiting for my answer, not holding my breath mind.

Did I say that 50 vs 17 is optimal ? No.

Did I say that fight 17 against 50 is easy ? No, I've ony said that flying on outnumbered side is easier to find an enemy figters/bombers.

All the trick is to stay alive and shoot down some. That depends only on Your skill and willing to fight. You can't earn kills/ground targets leaving the server cuz Yoy're outnumbered.

And I do not call anyone here stupid or noobs cuz he didn't agree with me or he didn't know how to win a map  ;) 

 

Ramm.

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It was ~30 vs 12 last night. In a 30 minute flight I got in 2 engagements with bombers/escorts and 3 kills.

You don't see this on WoL.

 

It's amazing how much the combat is far less arcade when people actually have to worry about navigation.

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I have done this, and a lot on my squad are going to as well, and it is a damn shame. Honestly it sucks because, it really takes away from the magic of TAW in my opinion.

I hear ya. The squad I'm part of likes to switch sides every campaign (last time we flew Allied), this time we're flying Axis but it's pretty hard to stomach with some of the numbers we're seeing. It would be nice to be able to fly Axis guilt free at least once in the lifetime of this sim but the huge amount of Axis only flyers makes this next to impossible.

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I hear ya. The squad I'm part of likes to switch sides every campaign (last time we flew Allied), this time we're flying Axis but it's pretty hard to stomach with some of the numbers we're seeing. It would be nice to be able to fly Axis guilt free at least once in the lifetime of this sim but the huge amount of Axis only flyers makes this next to impossible.

 

Just wanted to echo this myself, it's been the same feeling for me whenever I fly.  We try to balance things out, which these days means playing almost exclusively VVS (though we rolled axis for once this time).  I get that other people will do whatever they want to do (which appears to be flying axis fighters primarily) but throwing balance out the window like that can certainly pigeonhole others into doing things they don't want to do as well.  When it reaches that point, that's when I find a new server to play on, regardless of which side I fly.

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This is the argument I find the most frustrating. Let me be clear if I can:

 

Your point is nonsensical if you are trying to hit ground targets in a pe2/il2. The trick then is to stay alive, not get air kills. And this is much, much harder when numbers are so skewed. How the f does skill and willing to fight come into it when I'm on a level bombing run with eyes glued to the bombsight?

 

Personally I've always found jabo in 109 or 190 to be much more effective and safe than any red fighter, it is a must to use the pe2/il2 to attack ground targets (aside from the p40's single bomb).

 

So please, try to understand being swamped by 109s when trying to (suicidally) attack ground targets is not fun and cannot be solved by just hunting fighters when in a pe2!

 

And crucially this suicide might as well be done on WoL.

Don't even try, this jabroni has already made it clear that he is a hartmann through and through.

 

Remember, the reason why the server is imbalanced is our problem, not his. He flys German planes no matter what and if we have a problem with keeping the server competitive and fun it's on us, not him.

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Hi Everyone.

New guy ? How do you offload the cargo on JU52 after landing at baseFor resuspply.

Open side window. Hit bomb release.

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Hi Everyone.

New guy ? How do you offload the cargo on JU52 after landing at baseFor resuspply.

 

actually there is no need, just land and shut down. base you take off from needs to be less than 40% damage, base you land at needs to be more than 0 % damaged, and there is now a maximum amount an airfield can be repaired between missions. Its all explained in the manual on the TAW website. 

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actually there is no need, just land and shut down. base you take off from needs to be less than 40% damage, base you land at needs to be more than 0 % damaged, and there is now a maximum amount an airfield can be repaired between missions. Its all explained in the manual on the TAW website. 

I thought you could stock up an airfield now, I'm probably wrong but I heard or read (can't remember) that you can land at an undamaged airfield and stock up its resupply by x amount. Is this not the case?

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I do like the cold start too. 

Gives a bit of time to preset bomb sight, refine flight plan, and make sure the plane is in good order for take off. And prevent people slamming full throttle WoL style. 

For what we get, 3 min warmup isn't much, especially with the crappy oil they used back in the days.

 

As others said (and if this hasn't been done yet), increase a bit the idle timeout for Pe2 pilots (I guess it will also be useful for LW when winter will be there) and it will be perfect.

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Did I say that 50 vs 17 is optimal ? No.

Did I say that fight 17 against 50 is easy ? No, I've ony said that flying on outnumbered side is easier to find an enemy figters/bombers.

All the trick is to stay alive and shoot down some. That depends only on Your skill and willing to fight. You can't earn kills/ground targets leaving the server cuz Yoy're outnumbered.

And I do not call anyone here stupid or noobs cuz he didn't agree with me or he didn't know how to win a map  ;)

 

Ramm.

 

No, you are right. You said it was simple. My bad. I'll try in future to tailor my arguments to your special level of pedanticness. And now, to your point, it isn't as easy, or simple as that. Not when the bulk of enemy fighters are hands down faster than anything you can get your hands on outside of a bullet. It isn't my willingness to fight that determines getting a kill, it is yours. If you don't want to fight you can run away, and a lot of German players will run away, rather than getting into a fight they might lose and call it 'tactics'. That is of course rather aside from this particular point when there are 4 or 5 109's in the air for every Mig, and that is being generous. I might be able to dive in on a 5 man formation and come out of it with a kill on the other side of the fight. No way it can be done every time. It can't be done the majority of times. But that is what you advise. Of course you only advise that from a secure position with lots of back up - so brave of you.

 

But now to my real point. If 50 vs 17 isn't optimal, or even good, why do you ensure that it goes on and then tell us that it isn't your problem? You are part of the cause, doesn't that make you, in part, responsible? Doesn't that make it your problem? That is a general line of questioning for anyone, so don't feel singled out. I would have thought that fair play wasn't too much to ask for, but then I may have just forgot the crowd I was talking to.

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Yeah, I've become a broken record on this topic all over the forum; for my own sanity I think I'll give it a rest.

I've been preaching this till I was blue in the face. No body wants to accept responsibility. All the care about is flying a 109 and bouncing people either on landing, at 7k, or on the climb out.

 

I might just have TWB and everyone else I can find to all join LW for TAW.

 

What's the sense in flying red if TAW is just going to turn into a PvE mud moving marathon?

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Hey all I need some Quick help needed fo rme.I cannot get my propeller rpm to change in game and ive mapped it.3x with different keys.please help.O do t get any notification that it is changing. I fly, well trying too JU87-88 andHE111 or Better yet which keys do I need for the RPM thing. I found how to do the Radiators but cannot get how to make the RPM go up and down. I've tried single player and multiplayer siting there i get everything working on keyboard and my throttle but not that. And it makes me crash evrrytime. Please help.

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I've been preaching this till I was blue in the face. No body wants to accept responsibility. All the care about is flying a 109 and bouncing people either on landing, at 7k, or on the climb out.

 

I might just have TWB and everyone else I can find to all join LW for TAW.

 

What's the sense in flying red if TAW is just going to turn into a PvE mud moving marathon?

 

Hehe, that idea is also not new. ^^ Was actually talked about in the RED team two campaings ago IIRC. Would have it's positive side, too. Here we are hyped for that shiny new COOP mode the devs are working on and it turns out we could have had that all along!

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Heh, 45 vs 4 a little while ago.

Lol

 

 

Some say there's so many German planes it darkens the sky XD

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Lol

 

 

Some say there's so many German planes it darkens the sky XD

 

Then we will fight in the shade. :D

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I'm sure there'll be plenty of reds once the La 5FN turns up.

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In Bf 109s you don't have to warmup, you can take off with continuous power. So nothing has changed there. Same with P40 and I16.

 

LaGG, Yak and La5 I didn't test yet.

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Now if the admins could manage missions on the fly and put back in 61-K.. One can but dream ;)

More of these 61-Ks at least for Russian airfields..?

 

 

Me and a tovorish couldn't even climb beyond 1.5km today. Swarmed by vulching LWs, and bombed into oblivion on the ground.

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Now if the admins could manage missions on the fly and put back in 61-K.. One can but dream ;)

More of these 61-Ks at least for Russian airfields..?

 

 

Me and a tovorish couldn't even climb beyond 1.5km today. Swarmed by vulching LWs, and bombed into oblivion on the ground.

 

Teams are crazy, hope this evens out soon, and I know I’ll be flying Red before this campaign ends if it doesn’t. But your idea to bring 61K back to numbers before, without any other adjustments, is not the answer. Last campaigns Red had things on ‘easy mode’ in terms of AA (I know this will trigger a few, but it’s true). Now VVS gets a taste what it’s like not to have the protection of crazy 37mm gunners providing ceiling of protective steel. I can’t even begin to count the numbers of times I was vulched, just in the last campaign! Why AA calibers were not just balanced for both sides rather than removing a large number of 61K, I wouldn’t know, probably a time constraint thing. But, hope you see the irony of wanting it to return when Blue never had anything similar to get protection from in the first place!

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Apparently attacking airfields with fighters carrying bombs is frowned upon. I did 2 sorties just now with a P-40 and killed 4 fighters there and some hangars and some pilots are upset. Is there a rule against such behavior? Am I supposed to attack AF with only bombers in order for it to be ok?

 

Just want to make things clear ...

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Apparently attacking airfields with fighters carrying bombs is frowned upon. I did 2 sorties just now with a P-40 and killed 4 fighters there and some hangars and some pilots are upset. Is there a rule against such behavior? Am I supposed to attack AF with only bombers in order for it to be ok?

 

Just want to make things clear ...

No attack an airfield with what you want. 

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Apparently attacking airfields with fighters carrying bombs is frowned upon. I did 2 sorties just now with a P-40 and killed 4 fighters there and some hangars and some pilots are upset. Is there a rule against such behavior? Am I supposed to attack AF with only bombers in order for it to be ok?

 

Just want to make things clear ...

Jerry I see you know better than me how fun it is ;-)

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