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Remind me how you would go about creating another account to swap to red? Because I've not seen a situation before where I thought it might be a good idea.

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Remind me how you would go about creating another account to swap to red? Because I've not seen a situation before where I thought it might be a good idea.

https://il2sturmovik.com/account/

 

Change your name to your liking.

 

Go to http://taw-server.de/

and register another pilot with the name you just used and join TAW. Then you can switch to red.

 

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You can switch back to blue by changing your name back to the name you had before.

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fault that the more than 200 registered reds are not joining the server, but please remind me again exactly why they refuse to play???

 

to be clear: i totally support to get the balance right.! "

 

Pretty much the best combination of sentences your uttered on the same page of the forum. We have to play VVS for all eternity so that you can have fun and targets with a 2 : 1 registration rate

I couldnt play LW at this point bec there wouldnt be much targets in 30:10 to have fun either. I also dont have a squadron that has 10 players every evening aswell to hop in and have local superiority and still run okay in +2 : 1 

 

You know what happens then? You loose your P-40 to a ramm because half of the lifers still didnt figure out that 109s lock up. Hell last campaign our wingleader got rammed twice in a few days after taking off in his Pe-2 by vulchin E7s with potatoeaim.

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Do we need this cold start . time out on stuka .

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The same thing was on old ADW.

First maps - a lot of blues and only few reds.

Last maps - a lot of reds and only few blues.

 

Hell yea !! Blue won a first map !! ... and so f##ing what ?

I think reds wil win the whole campaign again.

We will see how the things will be right now when P-40 and ratas with Shvak apears.

The problem isn't in numbers of players on each side. Problem is with players who do not want to fly  on "based armamaent" ratas against "mighty" E7. Simply - they are afraid something.

27-0 is only when reds had one airfield open.

 

Ramm.

 

ps. the numbers wil change more eguall when BoS planes wil be available. Some ppl do not have BoM yet.

The system on "The Front Skies" war is better than static planeset per map. This way i think everyone will fly early to get points fast to use better planes later

 

http://il2org.ru:8080/war_en/

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I haven't had many issues with the cold engine starts, but after playing a bit it really seems unnecessary to be honest. I don't think it improves immersion, and I also can't see any gameplay benefit that's being added to the game. Would really love to see that changed for the remainder of the campaign.

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I was sceptical of the cold start at first, but now I think it actually helps along in de-clusterfucking certain scenarios with few targets and short distances. The fact that somebody who flies home or gets show down cannot be back in ~3 minutes is something I approve of. Plus if you do it right you can considerably shorten your downtime. :)

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I haven't had many issues with the cold engine starts, but after playing a bit it really seems unnecessary to be honest. I don't think it improves immersion, and I also can't see any gameplay benefit that's being added to the game. Would really love to see that changed for the remainder of the campaign.

It´s about realism and in my opinion, it´s a great idea to take time and heat up the engine. 

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Do to cold engine ppl tend to fly/ start together even if they are not on coms. This work because when you see 3-5 planes worming up you gonna w8 for them.

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I was sceptical of the cold start at first, but now I think it actually helps along in de-clusterfucking certain scenarios with few targets and short distances. The fact that somebody who flies home or gets show down cannot be back in ~3 minutes is something I approve of. Plus if you do it right you can considerably shorten your downtime. :)

 

Except what your PE-2 engine refuses to start up because the start up sequence is scripted for warm starts and overrides any settings you put into it beforehand, and you get kicked from the server for sitting idle in the parking area. It makes it doubly odd when you throw into the mix that it is 26 C outside.

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" to be clear: i totally support to get the balance right.! "

 

Pretty much the best combination of sentences your uttered on the same page of the forum. We have to play VVS for all eternity so that you can have fun and targets with a 2 : 1 registration rate

I couldnt play LW at this point bec there wouldnt be much targets in 30:10 to have fun either. I also dont have a squadron that has 10 players every evening aswell to hop in and have local superiority and still run okay in +2 : 1

 

You know what happens then? You loose your P-40 to a ramm because half of the lifers still didnt figure out that 109s lock up. Hell last campaign our wingleader got rammed twice in a few days after taking off in his Pe-2 by vulchin E7s with potatoeaim.

registration rate in clearly better than 2:1 !

i said it earlier in that discussion that the 45max limitation might be a good thing to avoid the server is blocked by blue, but it was actually your plot that showed that this would not solve anything if even on a half filled server there are constantly far less reds...ok... whatever...the start of map#2 seems to show some sort of improvement...whether it is the plane set or blues switching side...i don't know. i guess i'll follow ricksens recommendation.

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...correction: more than 400 registered reds that refused to join the less than half filled server last night!

Not sure you're being serious, but ever heard of timezones/time constraints/ family duties etc...?

 

 

Way to over simplify it.

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Not sure you're being serious, but ever heard of timezones/time constraints/ family duties etc...?

 

 

Way to over simplify it.

we had that comment before: remind me way these constraints only affect red side?

 

for sure that post was sonewhat provocative but still

 

registration rate is 1.7:1, if the teamstacking is worse than that (on a not fully loaded server), stop searching the failure on blue side!

 

anyway! i got it. i'll switch side as ricksen suggested.

 

remind me please: i change the name in il2 account, register that new name in TAW...do i do that with the same mail-adress than previously or do i also need to use a second mail-adress?

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A victory without peril is a triumph without glory.

 

Keep the stack up luftpeople! :P

 

 

I'll be trying to provide a target for the LW as regularly as possible haha.

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we had that comment before: remind me way these constraints only affect red side?

for sure that post was sonewhat provocative but still

registration rate is 1.7:1, if the teamstacking is worse than that (on a not fully loaded server), stop searching the failure on blue side!

anyway! i got it. i'll switch side as ricksen suggested.

remind me please: i change the name in il2 account, register that new name in TAW...do i do that with the same mail-adress than previously or do i also need to use a second mail-adress?

Use a diffetent mail address. Make sure you use the same password for simplicity and in case you forget. See you on the red side and good job switching!

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Use a diffetent mail address. Make sure you use the same password for simplicity and in case you forget. See you on the red side and good job switching!

thx for the quick feedback...see you on the dark side :-)

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How the hell are numbers not the problem when the German team has 2, 3 or more times the number of players as the Soviet teem and the server is full? How is 50 vs 17 not a problem? Please explain to me, in some detail how 50 vs 17 is optimal, because from where I sit that seems like a problem, and I'm not the only one. Who wins maps is entirely irrelevant to the issue of team balance. A stacked team is still a stacked team even if it manages to throw away what should be an easy win. In no other team based contest do the rules state that one team having too many players in the game is alright so long as they aren't doing well.

 

The problem you describe above is Your problem, not mine.

I do not have problem to fly against 3 or 5 more ppl on server, You and few other ppl - have  ;)

As long time ago one of the LG said (Blakhart probably) - stay on heavily defended target and shoot down as many as you can, and try to stay alive. Simple. And remember - more enemies - more targets.

Right now "the best of 5 alive fighters" four are red !!

If You are not a fighter - take bomber on high alt and bomb some long ranged factory.

 

However not using your brains and Ignoring the 2:1 registration rate across campaigns is kinda hilarious ... yes LW numbers change heavily with morale VVS do to to an extend

I do not ignoring anything, I just always fly on blue side. If would be 100 blues and 1 red registered I will fly on blue side. My brain and my decision :P

 

Ramm.

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see you on the dark side :-)

I find your wording here belittling, intrusive and prejudiced. We even use biodegradable aircraft ffs, most parts of them anyway. Welcome over, did anyone mention we shower together?

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I have to say I like the coldstarts too!

Even on Pe-2. But the sequence seriously needs some adjustments.. Don't know if its placebot but putting mixture to 60-65% and rpm to ~30% at least seems to help a little. But thats just a feeling, certainly never had problems with time out that way.

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I find your wording here belittling, intrusive and prejudiced. We even use biodegradable aircraft ffs, most parts of them anyway. Welcome over, did anyone mention we shower together?

ahh! how much i was begging it would be like that...my dreams seem to become true...

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Use a diffetent mail address. Make sure you use the same password for simplicity and in case you forget. See you on the red side and good job switching!

Do you have to re login with the new name here on the forum every time you switch ?

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Do you have to re login with the new name here on the forum every time you switch ?

AfAIK you log in with your email - which does not change. It kept me signed in when I switched names for TAW.

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Have you ever tried balancing your server? I know silly question.

 

Limit both sides at 40 players. And an 1.5 ratio.

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It´s about realism and in my opinion, it´s a great idea to take time and heat up the engine. 

 

Yes, so incredibly realistic that with a mission ambient temp of 21°C you have to warm your engine for 5ish minutes. It's an absolute joke IMO and does nothing to improve the experience or gameplay. Winter or fall temps? sure, fair enough. I personally think it's dumb but if the TAW creators want it fine. Again, in summer temps? dumb.

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Have you ever tried balancing your server? I know silly question.

 

Limit both sides at 40 players. And an 1.5 ratio.

 

I prefer  the value +10..15 (40+10 (15)=50 (55))

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Yes, so incredibly realistic that with a mission ambient temp of 21°C you have to warm your engine for 5ish minutes. It's an absolute joke IMO and does nothing to improve the experience or gameplay. Winter or fall temps? sure, fair enough. I personally think it's dumb but if the TAW creators want it fine. Again, in summer temps? dumb.

 

seems that cold starts are a polarising issue. I like it, playing in VR with technochat and hud instruments (compass) off, it's like I am there. 

 

Last campaign I saw the WoL style launches becoming quite common, people were beginning to take off from where ever the hell they liked, and ignored taxiing to the runway. I've not seen that at all so far this campaign. Not saying that the two things are necessarily related, but warming up while you taxi could be a factor.

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The problem you describe above is Your problem, not mine.

I do not have problem to fly against 3 or 5 more ppl on server, You and few other ppl - have  ;)

As long time ago one of the LG said (Blakhart probably) - stay on heavily defended target and shoot down as many as you can, and try to stay alive. Simple. And remember - more enemies - more targets.

Right now "the best of 5 alive fighters" four are red !!

If You are not a fighter - take bomber on high alt and bomb some long ranged factory.

 

I do not ignoring anything, I just always fly on blue side. If would be 100 blues and 1 red registered I will fly on blue side. My brain and my decision :P

 

Ramm.

 

Easy to say from the stacked side I guess. Anyway, I'm still waiting for an explanation on how 50 to 17 is optimal. So far all I've gotten is some BS about how that fight is easy and anyone who disagrees is to stupid or too much of a noob to figure out how to win. I'm still waiting for my answer, not holding my breath mind.

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One other big Difference is the Massive Disproportion of English Speakers on the TS. While on the German Side you always have someone to fly with, on the Russian Side there rarely are any International Players. 

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I don't think the dual profiles is the best solution simply because TAW is really all about contributing to a single side to win the ' war'' isn't it? Well done to those who do try and balance this way though of course.

 

The solution lies in equal numbers (of those people able to regularly put the time in) registering for each side.

 

 

Maybe all the (large) squads declaring who they wish to fly for, but discussing it with others before registering, and sometimes changing over for the duration.

 

But this will always be hamstrung if there a certain number of inflexible squads.

I have done this, and a lot on my squad are going to as well, and it is a damn shame. Honestly it sucks because, it really takes away from the magic of TAW in my opinion.

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I prefer  the value +10..15 (40+10 (15)=50 (55))

 

So but I cannot make out any sense in this. If you put the limit at 55 you can leave it off entirely. If you have it at 45 you already have a difference of 10 players to the smaller team which will then have 35 players max. And thats already a compromise, but one that quite many people here find acceptable for both the smaller as well as the larger team.

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Easy to say from the stacked side I guess. Anyway, I'm still waiting for an explanation on how 50 to 17 is optimal. So far all I've gotten is some BS about how that fight is easy and anyone who disagrees is to stupid or too much of a noob to figure out how to win. I'm still waiting for my answer, not holding my breath mind.

Did I say that 50 vs 17 is optimal ? No.

Did I say that fight 17 against 50 is easy ? No, I've ony said that flying on outnumbered side is easier to find an enemy figters/bombers.

All the trick is to stay alive and shoot down some. That depends only on Your skill and willing to fight. You can't earn kills/ground targets leaving the server cuz Yoy're outnumbered.

And I do not call anyone here stupid or noobs cuz he didn't agree with me or he didn't know how to win a map  ;) 

 

Ramm.

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It was ~30 vs 12 last night. In a 30 minute flight I got in 2 engagements with bombers/escorts and 3 kills.

You don't see this on WoL.

 

It's amazing how much the combat is far less arcade when people actually have to worry about navigation.

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I have done this, and a lot on my squad are going to as well, and it is a damn shame. Honestly it sucks because, it really takes away from the magic of TAW in my opinion.

I hear ya. The squad I'm part of likes to switch sides every campaign (last time we flew Allied), this time we're flying Axis but it's pretty hard to stomach with some of the numbers we're seeing. It would be nice to be able to fly Axis guilt free at least once in the lifetime of this sim but the huge amount of Axis only flyers makes this next to impossible.

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I hear ya. The squad I'm part of likes to switch sides every campaign (last time we flew Allied), this time we're flying Axis but it's pretty hard to stomach with some of the numbers we're seeing. It would be nice to be able to fly Axis guilt free at least once in the lifetime of this sim but the huge amount of Axis only flyers makes this next to impossible.

 

Just wanted to echo this myself, it's been the same feeling for me whenever I fly.  We try to balance things out, which these days means playing almost exclusively VVS (though we rolled axis for once this time).  I get that other people will do whatever they want to do (which appears to be flying axis fighters primarily) but throwing balance out the window like that can certainly pigeonhole others into doing things they don't want to do as well.  When it reaches that point, that's when I find a new server to play on, regardless of which side I fly.

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This is the argument I find the most frustrating. Let me be clear if I can:

 

Your point is nonsensical if you are trying to hit ground targets in a pe2/il2. The trick then is to stay alive, not get air kills. And this is much, much harder when numbers are so skewed. How the f does skill and willing to fight come into it when I'm on a level bombing run with eyes glued to the bombsight?

 

Personally I've always found jabo in 109 or 190 to be much more effective and safe than any red fighter, it is a must to use the pe2/il2 to attack ground targets (aside from the p40's single bomb).

 

So please, try to understand being swamped by 109s when trying to (suicidally) attack ground targets is not fun and cannot be solved by just hunting fighters when in a pe2!

 

And crucially this suicide might as well be done on WoL.

Don't even try, this jabroni has already made it clear that he is a hartmann through and through.

 

Remember, the reason why the server is imbalanced is our problem, not his. He flys German planes no matter what and if we have a problem with keeping the server competitive and fun it's on us, not him.

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Hi Everyone.

New guy ? How do you offload the cargo on JU52 after landing at baseFor resuspply.

Open side window. Hit bomb release.

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Hi Everyone.

New guy ? How do you offload the cargo on JU52 after landing at baseFor resuspply.

 

actually there is no need, just land and shut down. base you take off from needs to be less than 40% damage, base you land at needs to be more than 0 % damaged, and there is now a maximum amount an airfield can be repaired between missions. Its all explained in the manual on the TAW website. 

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