JG7_X-Man Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 (edited) 19 hours ago, Mitthrawnuruodo said: The effect is clear on a standard display. Note the details that completely vanish in shadows when HDR is off. This HDR rendering has nothing to do with hardware. Read up on HDR You need HDR-compatible hardware (new TVs) and HDR content (movies, TV shows) to get this picture quality upgrade. From what I can see, you probably tweaked your gamma to prove a point. HDR is hardware driven as much as software - we will have to agree to disagree on that one. Edited March 7, 2018 by JG7_X_Man 1
Mitthrawnuruodo Posted March 7, 2018 Posted March 7, 2018 6 minutes ago, JG7_X_Man said: You need HDR-compatible hardware (new TVs) and HDR content (movies, TV shows) to get this picture quality upgrade. From what I can see, you probably tweaked your gamma to prove a point. HDR is hardware driven as much as software - we will have to agree to disagree on that one. That is completely false. I only switched off HDR. This video also demonstrates the effect of HDR. Once again, it is clearly visible without special hardware. Anyone can replicate these findings. 4
JG7_X-Man Posted March 8, 2018 Posted March 8, 2018 Dude! You are going to have to let this one go - That isn't true HDR. To get true HDR you need an HDR capable display which is why I bought an HDR capable TV. It's like the difference b/w Adaptive braking on my neighbors car and my Autonomous breaking on my car. Almost - but not the same! Conversation over! 1
unlikely_spider Posted March 8, 2018 Posted March 8, 2018 17 minutes ago, JG7_X_Man said: Dude! You are going to have to let this one go - That isn't true HDR. To get true HDR you need an HDR capable display which is why I bought an HDR capable TV. It's like the difference b/w Adaptive braking on my neighbors car and my Autonomous breaking on my car. Almost - but not the same! Conversation over! I don't think anyone is saying it is the same thing. But the HDR on/off setting does change the look even with people with no HDR display. 1
JG7_X-Man Posted March 8, 2018 Posted March 8, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, engrish_major said: I don't think anyone is saying it is the same thing. But the HDR on/off setting does change the look even with people with no HDR display. His argument was : HDR rendering has nothing to do with hardware. If that is what HDR ON/OFF does without HDR capable hardware- it's just like gamma correction of -0.1 - which isn't what HDR does. Edited March 8, 2018 by JG7_X_Man
Mitthrawnuruodo Posted March 8, 2018 Posted March 8, 2018 41 minutes ago, JG7_X_Man said: Dude! You are going to have to let this one go - That isn't true HDR. To get true HDR you need an HDR capable display which is why I bought an HDR capable TV. It's like the difference b/w Adaptive braking on my neighbors car and my Autonomous breaking on my car. Almost - but not the same! Conversation over! I will let it go once you retract the false claim that the HDR setting in Il-2 has no effect when using a monitor that does not support HDR video. 22 minutes ago, JG7_X_Man said: His argument was : HDR rendering has nothing to do with hardware. If that is what HDR ON/OFF does without HDR capable hardware- it's just like gamma correction of -0.1 - which isn't what HDR does. High Dynamic Range (HDR) is a name applied to several different technologies. The setting in Il-2 is related to HDR rendering (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-dynamic-range_rendering). This doesn't just change the gamma; it uses special lighting calculations to preserve more details when rendering really bright and really dark areas. This is distinct from HDR video (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-dynamic-range_video) such as the Dolby Vision format supported by your monitor. This allows content to be displayed with 10-bit colour. Il-2 does not even support HDR10 or Dolby Vision. 2 2
Bajzon20 Posted March 24, 2018 Posted March 24, 2018 Hi, I would like to ask if such a computer configuration would be able to run Il-2 BoS on the highest graphic settings? . Intel Core i5-2500 (4 cores up to 3.70 GHZ) 8 GB RAM (DIMM DDR3, 1600 MHz) NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050Ti Titanium 4GB GDDR5
Dakpilot Posted March 26, 2018 Posted March 26, 2018 On 3/24/2018 at 6:24 PM, GTursonA523 said: Hi, I would like to ask if such a computer configuration would be able to run Il-2 BoS on the highest graphic settings? . Intel Core i5-2500 (4 cores up to 3.70 GHZ) 8 GB RAM (DIMM DDR3, 1600 MHz) NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050Ti Titanium 4GB GDDR5 In a word no but it should run it at medium/high setting at 1080P but def not highest, however IL-2 scales well and still can look very nice on lower options Cheers, Dakpilot
WB_jokkr Posted April 7, 2018 Posted April 7, 2018 Just installed BOS on my fairly new high spec PC I7-7700 1080TI 16 gb 2TB storage 256 SS drive 4k monitor NEC I tried ultra at 4k Got some odd artifacts and screen tearing Thought I ask the experts on suggested settings Thanks Bob
Mitthrawnuruodo Posted April 7, 2018 Posted April 7, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, JG26jokkmccarthy said: screen tearing Make sure that V-sync is enabled. 1 hour ago, JG26jokkmccarthy said: Got some odd artifacts Not sure what is meant by this. Here's a procedure that I'd suggest for optimizing settings Enabled "Full screen", "Vsync", and "Use 4K textures" Disabled "Enable VR HMD" and "Multi GPU support" Screen resolution set to native Dynamic resolution factor "Full" Observe your frame rate in a heavy mission (default 'backspace') and adjust the following settings until it's stable at the level you desire Shadows quality Mirrors Distant landscape detail Horizon draw distance Grass quality Clouds quality Antialiasing SSAO HDR The remaining settings don't really affect performance. Adjust them to suit your preferences UI scale Landscape filter Gamma correction Sharpen Your system is very powerful. It should be able to run the game well. Edited April 7, 2018 by Mitthrawnuruodo 1
WB_jokkr Posted April 7, 2018 Posted April 7, 2018 (edited) Perfect, thank you very much. The artifacts I mentioned were some textures not loading on instrument panel. Bob Edited April 7, 2018 by JG26jokkmccarthy
WB_jokkr Posted April 7, 2018 Posted April 7, 2018 Wow, working like it should now. Thanks again. Bob
TWC_Ace Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 (edited) intel G4560 3.5 GHz dual core (with HT on 2+2 cores, 4 cores total) GTX 1060 3GB VRAM - OC to "1060ti" 8 GB RAM 2400Mhz SSD HD 120GB 1920X1200p 60Hz monitor In game settings: overal video settings HIGH, vsync ON (resolution set to 1920x1200 as this is a native resolution of my monitor), fullscreen off, clouds high, shadows low (still looks good), 2x distant landscape, 40 km distance, 4AA, HDR, Mirrors off, Landscape filter off, Grass normal, Sharpen and SSAO off, Dynamic resolution factor - full, target fps - off (since Im using vsync). Nvidia control panel - Power - prefer max performance, testure filtering - perform,ance, everything else "use application settings". I have, both, in single player (with 16p lanes tested) and in multiplayer (full servers with 84 ppl) FPS almost constanty locked at 59 (refresh rate of my IPS Dell monitor), sometimes goes to 57 and thats it. Edited April 12, 2018 by blackram 1
Fun_Flying Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 Hi, I know my setup isn't the most advanced but I think my computer may be underperforming. I'm only getting about 14 FPS when there is terrain or clouds in view and when there are a lot of objects. I have set up my settings according to those provided by the developers for the recent IL-2 Kuban update and are at the lowest possible benchmarks. Can any one tell me where my issues may lie? System Specs: Intel Core i7-3770S CPU @3.1GHz AMD Radeon 7600A Series with 2 GB, Core Clock 600 MHz, Memory Clock 800 MHz 12 GB RAM 1920X1080p 60Hz Monitor
TWC_Ace Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 (edited) 23 minutes ago, pht0830 said: Hi, I know my setup isn't the most advanced but I think my computer may be underperforming. I'm only getting about 14 FPS when there is terrain or clouds in view and when there are a lot of objects. I have set up my settings according to those provided by the developers for the recent IL-2 Kuban update and are at the lowest possible benchmarks. Can any one tell me where my issues may lie? System Specs: Intel Core i7-3770S CPU @3.1GHz AMD Radeon 7600A Series with 2 GB, Core Clock 600 MHz, Memory Clock 800 MHz 12 GB RAM 1920X1080p 60Hz Monitor You CPU is fairly well your mobile amd GPU is weak, very weak. You are using non gaming notebook for this game. That wont work. If you cant save for decent gaming desktop PC (cheaper than gaming notebook) you can try setting everything to low in game and try to lower the resolution. But that isnt the best solution IMHO. Edited April 12, 2018 by blackram
Fun_Flying Posted April 12, 2018 Posted April 12, 2018 Thank you for your prompt reply. I appreciate the confirmation of what I was suspecting. Cheers!
JG7_X-Man Posted April 26, 2018 Posted April 26, 2018 (edited) On 3/7/2018 at 6:15 PM, Mitthrawnuruodo said: That is completely false. I only switched off HDR. This video also demonstrates the effect of HDR. Once again, it is clearly visible without special hardware. Anyone can replicate these findings. Oh yeah - I forgot to tell you bro - well we were both right HDR can be hardware or software enabled) LOL However - I guess you already knew this. Cheers Edited April 26, 2018 by JG7_X_Man
LLv34_adexu Posted May 26, 2018 Posted May 26, 2018 I have 3 problems, first two when playing UHD. Wanted to bring first 2 out for developers. I doubt they read these forums, but worth a shot. Also I need solution for the third problem. Too lazy to make a screenshots, but this is just strange. 1. With 4K display and graphics spotting planes is really hard. 2. Planes dissapear sometimes from 2.0 km etc. 3. FullHD, my game is too bright after restart. If I alt+tab, I see my game on background the gamma is same as with UHD. Got good rig to play 4K IL2 and this game is bad for it. Would know that, wouldn't invest that much in to my sim PC. Plane visibility is best on Full HD resolution. Too many bugs for 4K.
JG7_X-Man Posted June 3, 2018 Posted June 3, 2018 On 5/26/2018 at 6:17 PM, LLv34_adexu said: I have 3 problems, first two when playing UHD. Wanted to bring first 2 out for developers. I doubt they read these forums, but worth a shot. Also I need solution for the third problem. Too lazy to make a screenshots, but this is just strange. 1. With 4K display and graphics spotting planes is really hard. YES! 4K isn't new but relatively not mainstream, developers use LOD modeling are geared towards 1920x1080 and if you fly online you have to make that change or you will get killed every single sortie! The other guy will see you 1st. Trust me I know - look at my TAW stats vs my Berloga stats from this weekend after I made the change? 2. Planes dissapear sometimes from 2.0 km etc.Lowering you resolution from 3840 x 2160 pixels or 4096 x 2160 pixels to 1920x1080 will bring that to the standard 9.0 km I think, this is as a result of #1 from above. 3. FullHD, my game is too bright after restart. If I alt+tab, I see my game on background the gamma is same as with UHD. This is an issue with your video card settings. Got good rig to play 4K IL2 and this game is bad for it. Would know that, wouldn't invest that much in to my sim PC. Plane visibility is best on Full HD resolution. Too many bugs for 4K.
LLv34_adexu Posted June 4, 2018 Posted June 4, 2018 19 hours ago, JG7_X_Man said: Well, fixed gamma with flightfx. But still can't see cons. Others see them, I don't. Watched one replay. Saw one con who I killed and didn't see 3 other. Will try to make a video with replay and put one together. I can't be that blind.
JG7_X-Man Posted June 4, 2018 Posted June 4, 2018 I don't have an issue with gamma on my end - I changed my gamma in the setting.ini to 0.75 and it's just fine for me. I also lowered my resolution and all is well. I use a 55" too so that might be a tad different than whatever you are gaming on.
BOO Posted June 5, 2018 Posted June 5, 2018 On 4/26/2018 at 2:15 AM, SCG_X-Man said: Oh yeah - I forgot to tell you bro - well we were both right HDR can be hardware or software enabled) LOL However - I guess you already knew this. Cheers I think Thrawn was correct in the statements he was making. Your claims HDR in BOX did nothing without hardware, was a placebo or only altered the gamma in BOX or that Thrawn altered the gamma to prove a point were, and remain, incorrect.
JonRedcorn Posted August 15, 2018 Posted August 15, 2018 On 6/5/2018 at 4:18 AM, BOO said: I think Thrawn was correct in the statements he was making. Your claims HDR in BOX did nothing without hardware, was a placebo or only altered the gamma in BOX or that Thrawn altered the gamma to prove a point were, and remain, incorrect. I thought I had commented on this but I guess not, HDR in certain cases does need to have a monitor with HDR capabilities to run, in IL2's case and many other PC games, an HDR monitor is NOT required for it to work, it is a post processing effect the game uses. Has nothing to do with needing a HDR compliant monitor in this specific instance. Now on a PS4 they are making games now that yes, require you own a TV with HDR capabilities to work properly.
On_The_Piss Posted October 18, 2018 Posted October 18, 2018 Hi folks. Endlessly fiddling with my graphics settings. i5 16GBRAM 1070 40’ 4K monitor limited to 60fps using vsync. i tend to run at 2480x1440 as I get better frames. anyway my questions is - do any graphics settings effect spotting distance? I don’t mean ease of spotting, I mean the distance I can see foes. cheers
scowler1 Posted October 25, 2018 Posted October 25, 2018 Hi people. I wonder if BoS will run on my system. Basically its a new Ryzen 3 2200g build with 8gb Ram on a 1920X1080p 75Hz Monitor. That's it, no graphics card, no VR gear. I'm a bit casual and I'm not expecting great results but will it be playable on lower settings? RoF runs great, been enjoying that. Thanks for any input.
Mitthrawnuruodo Posted October 25, 2018 Posted October 25, 2018 12 hours ago, scowler1 said: Basically its a new Ryzen 3 2200g build with 8gb Ram on a 1920X1080p 75Hz Monitor. That's it, no graphics card, no VR gear. You'll be able to launch the game and play it. However, it won't be a pleasant experience unless you can tolerate frame rates below 30 at the lowest settings. The integrated graphics are extremely weak. If possible, get a GTX 1050 or RX 560 graphics card and you'll be able to run the game well. 1
scowler1 Posted October 25, 2018 Posted October 25, 2018 Thanks for the advice, I'll wait until I can afford a GC.
JG1337/Jolly_Junker Posted November 19, 2018 Posted November 19, 2018 I wanted to ask if there is any point getting more than 16GB memory for IL-2?
Mitthrawnuruodo Posted November 20, 2018 Posted November 20, 2018 23 hours ago, JG/1337Grappo-Soda said: I wanted to ask if there is any point getting more than 16GB memory for IL-2? You won’t gain performance; 8 GB of RAM is enough. 2
LLv34_Flanker Posted March 30, 2019 Posted March 30, 2019 S! Just bit the bullet and slapped in a RTX 2080Ti. Chews IL-2 like a squirrel nuts. FPS boosted to nearly 200. Anyone got a good profile for nVidia Control Panel as GF Experience does not see IL-2.
JonRedcorn Posted April 5, 2019 Posted April 5, 2019 On 10/18/2018 at 4:30 PM, GBAKyelkcoh said: Hi folks. Endlessly fiddling with my graphics settings. i5 16GBRAM 1070 40’ 4K monitor limited to 60fps using vsync. i tend to run at 2480x1440 as I get better frames. anyway my questions is - do any graphics settings effect spotting distance? I don’t mean ease of spotting, I mean the distance I can see foes. cheers No. No setting effects that.
SeaW0lf Posted April 5, 2019 Posted April 5, 2019 On 10/18/2018 at 5:30 PM, GBAKyelkcoh said: do any graphics settings effect spotting distance? I don’t mean ease of spotting, I mean the distance I can see foes. No, it is a game engine limitation. IIRC, aircraft, flak and such disappear and pop out around 9.5km. You can find some threads discussing the issue. 1
Skywarp Posted June 22, 2019 Posted June 22, 2019 I got a monster to run DCS. Also play BoS and CLoD, everything running smoother at full graphics. Hardware listed on my signature.
Dutch2 Posted June 22, 2019 Posted June 22, 2019 1 hour ago, 9./JG54_Skywarp said: I got a monster to run DCS. Also play BoS and CLoD, everything running smoother at full graphics. Hardware listed on my signature. You have an decent rig, only nothing special nor high end. Why not ask @dburne what a real monster PC looks like, in 2019.
Skywarp Posted June 23, 2019 Posted June 23, 2019 9 hours ago, Dutch2 said: You have an decent rig, only nothing special nor high end. Why not ask @dburne what a real monster PC looks like, in 2019. I didn't want to look arrogant, what I mean: for BoS my rig delivers more than it needs.
LP1888 Posted June 27, 2019 Posted June 27, 2019 Any know how to get this to run smooth just got an g sync monitor and it seems to run worse. G sync on and v sync in nvidia panel and full screen on and everything else off on high graphics settings mode. Specs are i5 8600k 4.5ghz GTx 1080 16gb ram on an ssd play at 1080 seems to run smooth at 100fps cap but small really anoying stutters when rolling over built up areas online is worse then offline.
SeaW0lf Posted June 29, 2019 Posted June 29, 2019 On 6/27/2019 at 8:25 PM, LP1888 said: Any know how to get this to run smooth just got an g sync monitor and it seems to run worse. G sync on and v sync in nvidia panel and full screen on and everything else off on high graphics settings mode. Specs are i5 8600k 4.5ghz GTx 1080 16gb ram on an ssd play at 1080 seems to run smooth at 100fps cap but small really anoying stutters when rolling over built up areas online is worse then offline. Try some of these settings on this thread. It worked for me. I still have some zoom stutters in crowded areas, but that I think comes with the game / dserver.
R3animate Posted July 26, 2019 Posted July 26, 2019 I wonder how well the game runs on Ryzen 3000 series.. I noticed it seems to evenly spread the load across multiple cores which surprised me, I figured it was more or less single threaded.
CanadaOne Posted September 20, 2019 Posted September 20, 2019 On 7/26/2019 at 7:38 AM, R3animate said: I wonder how well the game runs on Ryzen 3000 series.. I noticed it seems to evenly spread the load across multiple cores which surprised me, I figured it was more or less single threaded. I've read both points of view on this; one fast core vs. multi core. Has anyone come up with a definitive answer?
Mitthrawnuruodo Posted September 21, 2019 Posted September 21, 2019 (edited) On 7/26/2019 at 4:38 AM, R3animate said: I wonder how well the game runs on Ryzen 3000 series.. I noticed it seems to evenly spread the load across multiple cores which surprised me, I figured it was more or less single threaded. 6 hours ago, CanadaOne said: I've read both points of view on this; one fast core vs. multi core. Has anyone come up with a definitive answer? It is limited by single thread. The significant usage across all cores shown by Task Manager or Resource Monitor is misleading, as it is an average for each core over a certain time. In reality, Windows is constantly moving the load around, and it's still limited by the performance of a single thread at any instant despite no cores showing 100%. Similar behaviour can be seen with other software, such as PassMark single thread benchmarks. Admittedly, I'm not an expert in these matters, but that's how I've seen it explained. Nevertheless, it's largely academic since benchmarks show a clear single thread dependence. Edited September 21, 2019 by Mitthrawnuruodo 1
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