Developer Diary 210 - Discussion

[=FB=VikS]

19 minutes ago, Legioneod said:

Excellent DD can't wait to try it all out.

 

Just one thing though, I'm not complaining but 700kmh (434 mph) at 7000m (22,965 ft) sounds a bit fast for the D-28.

 

D-28 top speed was 443 mph but that was at 29,000ft, it didn't hit 430+ mph until around 25,000ft. 434 at 23k sounds closer to a razorback or a P-47 with a hamilton standard prop.

 

If we are getting a hamilton standard it all makes sense, but not if it's a curtis electric.

Not complaining, just curious.

 

 

 

PS: its curtiss "paddle blade" prop on D-28.

[Legioneod]

2 minutes ago, =FB=VikS said:

 

 

PS: its curtiss "paddle blade" prop on D-28.

 

Interesting.

I know, but even then a curtis paddle blade is slower than a hamilton.

 

What were the engine settings in that report? Those speeds make sense with 70" but not at 64"

Based off that report you showed, that P-47 was using 70".

 

[JG4_Nemesis]

Why does the K-4 only reach 715 km/h instead of 728km/h (452mph)?

[Legioneod]

1 minute ago, I/JG27_Nemesis said:

Why does the K-4 only reach 715 km/h instead of 728km/h (452mph)?

I've only ever seen the K4 quoted as reaching around 715 kmh, never 728. I could be wrong though

[InProgress]

My favorite part is better damage for vehicles. It was really annoying for me to watch them explode all the time. I hope no more explosion and you will be able to get bunch of kills where tanks or trucks just smoke or burn or simply get immobilized. No more explosion all the time.

 

Hope it will works with AT guns or any other stationary targets. Getting explosions full of fire from shooting at aaa was silly.

[Talon_]

7 minutes ago, Legioneod said:

 

Interesting.

I know, but even then a curtis paddle blade is slower than a hamilton.

 

What were the engine settings in that report? Those speeds make sense with 70" but not at 64"

Based off that report you showed, that P-47 was using 70".

 

 

That report shows a 170gal drop tank

[spudkopf]

Excellent......

 

Just wondering will the new RAF pilot only appear on the western map(s), or will it be tied to the Spit IXe and the Tempest V?

 

As to me the Ruskie chap just looks out of place sitting in the late Spitty.

[blockheadgreen_]

I unfortunately know exactly what this is going to incite, but since the K-4 is receiving (operationally unused, I believe, i may be wrong) 1.98ata...any chance of the Spit getting +25lbs? 

[Finkeren]

Just now, spudkopf said:

 

As to me the Ruskie chap just looks out of place sitting in the late Spitty.

 

Well, the PVO and VVS did operate well over 1000 Spitfire Mk. XIs, so it really isn’t that out of place.

[[CPT]Pike*HarryM]

Whoever is doing the pilot models is doing an amazing job, IMHO. 

 

[Legioneod]

2 minutes ago, Talon_ said:

 

That report shows a 170gal drop tank

Didn't notice that, either way it's still using 70" just based off the speeds shown.

[Rjel]

The PTO (hint for the future?) P-47 skin looks great as does the other one. So does the RAF pilot. This is all looking so impressive.

[6./ZG26_Custard]

23 minutes ago, LukeFF said:

The gauge plainly shows it goes to 2.0. 

[CountZero]

great dd, nice work on 47 looks great, nice to see k4 will be a beast

hope thouse fixes for mulltiplayer show in practice, and thouse aditional stuff for ground units dont add aditional strain.

kill messages already work like that in vall stats, so glad they will be sinck now with what in game stats shows

 

7 minutes ago, I/JG27_Nemesis said:

Why does the K-4 only reach 715 km/h instead of 728km/h (452mph)?

from what i see that 728 109k4 used prototype props and was not standard, standard is what we get and standard speed is what they say we get, so all ok to me, and dont worry it will still be best thing with prop in game when it comes it will just not have that big advantage ugenst allieds as 109s have now vs yaks ?

 

Edited November 9, 2018 by 77.CountZero

[LukeFF]

4 minutes ago, Finkeren said:

Well, the PVO and VVS did operate well over 1000 Spitfire Mk. XIs, so it really isn’t that out of place.

 

Well, yes, but the Spit. IX is being developed for Bodenplatte, not the PVO, where the type saw very little action.

 

To answer @spudkopf's question: pilots are tied to the plane model, so you'll see it with the Tempest and Spit IX (and probably the B-25, since the USAAF did not operate it in the ETO).

[=621=Samikatz]

6 minutes ago, Lythronax said:

I unfortunately know exactly what this is going to incite, but since the K-4 is receiving (operationally unused, I believe, i may be wrong) 1.98ata...any chance of the Spit getting +25lbs? 

 

Yeah, seems very bizarre for this sim to include a poorly documented maybe-used-maybe-not setting and exclude one we have concrete documentation of the use of down to the exact litres of fuel used

[spudkopf]

3 minutes ago, Finkeren said:

 

Well, the PVO and VVS did operate well over 1000 Spitfire Mk. XIs, so it really isn’t that out of place.

 

 He’d look less out of place if he was wearing an oxygen mask

[Jason_Williams]

2 minutes ago, =621=Samikatz said:

 

Yeah, seems very bizarre for this sim to include a poorly documented maybe-used-maybe-not setting and exclude one we have concrete documentation of the use of down to the exact litres of fuel used

 

Time, time, time. If you knew the time constraints the team is under you will see the difficult decisions we have to make. I hope to add such things later when we have more time.

 

Jason

[Finkeren]

2 minutes ago, spudkopf said:

 

 He’d look less out of place if he was wearing an oxygen mask

 

Yeah, I really hope we’ll get masks for the Soviet pilots as well.

[Torso]

1 hour ago, Asgar said:

The last month of Autumn has begun and we're preparing the next update for our three projects. We plan to release it in two weeks (doh!) or so and today we'll tell you about the upcoming additions. Of course, the stars of the show are FOUR new aircraft, two for Bodenplatte and two for Flying Circus.

 

Man I hope this falls on the USA Thanksgiving holiday week then. That would be freakin perfect as many have time off that week and would give those of us that do some great play time with the new toys.

[Garven]

The 56th fighter group operated and fought in the same skies as the 9th airforce which means Thunderbolts with 70 inches of Mercury on our map weren't uncommon.  I also doubt 9th airforce P-47's ever flew without pylons (this is just a guess).

[Legioneod]

5 minutes ago, Garven_Dreis said:

The 56th fighter group operated and fought in the same skies as the 9th airforce which means Thunderbolts with 70 inches of Mercury on our map weren't uncommon.  I also doubt 9th airforce P-47's ever flew without pylons (this is just a guess).

Yep, makes sense to have the P-47 operable at 70", those speeds listed above make me thing that is what we are getting. 

The speed listed in the DD still wouldn't be our top speed though, it's still faster the higher it goes but it loses power past 24-25k ft.

Edited November 9, 2018 by Legioneod

[LukeFF]

19 minutes ago, 6./ZG26_Custard said:

 

That video clip never gets old.

[Danziger]

1 hour ago, Jason_Williams said:

 

Umm... no you are wrong. The U-2 is progressing. Not easy to build planes for us, we require quality.

 

The team as you can see is doing great things. When I visit them in person on my quarterly trips I am always amazed at what they are cranking out and improving aside from what I ask them to work on as part of our official schedule. Always pleasant surprises on top of unexpected challenges.

 

Show the hard working Sturmovik Team some love this Holiday season.

Also, don't forget to give us your Feedback!!! Keep them coming! 

 

Jason

 

[=GEMINI=marbessi]

Very nice DD! But i have a question on older planes... the radiator control bug on Spit due to new boil on altitude temperatures will be fixed in next patch? @Han @Jason_Williams

[JGr2/J5_W0LF-]

This is a great update Jason and the team. Thanks a lot for making my weekend. I'm so looking forward to the P-47 and the new Kill settings for the game. You guys are doing a great job so please keep up the outstanding work. I salute you sir!

[SOLIDKREATE]

Hey if you guys want my 'Donner Wetter' skin for this Camel, contact me. Jason knows my info. I have made that aircraft before for RoF and it was selected as one of the Community Skin Packs for implementation into the game.

 

 

* wont let me post image links for some reason

 

 

Sopwith Camel, B7910, Capt. Capt. W.G.R. Hinchliffe "DONNER WETTER" No.10 Sqn. "C" Flight, RNAS March 1917

 

LINK:  https://riseofflight.com/forum/topic/49797-sopwith-camel-b7910-capt-capt-wgr-hinchliffe-donner-wetter-n/

 

 

 

[MiloMorai]

All very nice. When do the Allies get 150 fuel?

[LukeFF]

4 minutes ago, MiloMorai said:

All very nice. When do the Allies get 150 fuel?

 

 

[Aap]

2 hours ago, Art-J said:

Love the Philippines campaign paintscheme on the first screen with the Jug. With those forest-covered hills in the background the plane looks almost like flying over Luzon. That will do for a PTO-vibe generator for now ?

 

Just like he second screen with Mexican Thunderbolt ...

Edited November 9, 2018 by II./JG77_Kemp

[lurch9494]

Look spectacular as always! Can't wait for the next update and this DD has just whetted my appetite all over again! ?

[Torso]

lol..so many great things, so many ungrateful people.

 

I keed I keed. I love seeing the passion to push for perfection.

 

 

Edited November 9, 2018 by Torso

[=362nd_FS=Hiromachi]

10 minutes ago, MiloMorai said:

All very nice. When do the Allies get 150 fuel?

Later, apparently there wasn't enough time to get it done with this development. Though just enough time to get DC engine with 1.98 Ata. 

But it supposed to arrive later, so to answer your question its probably somewhere in betweeen of two weeks and eternity

[Kurfurst]

1 hour ago, I/JG27_Nemesis said:

Why does the K-4 only reach 715 km/h instead of 728km/h (452mph)?

 

715 was the speed reached with propeller used in serial production. There were several other props tested for it (with swept blades, thinner blades), 728 kph is the speed expected from the thinner bladed propeller.

 

However, this one AFAIK did not enter production, but the figure did make it into the old William Green books, and from there, to other books.

 

715 is the correct figure, as the devs modelled it.

[Beazil]

Well this is an encouraging update!  Im looking forward to all the additions.  I can see myself shooting the same AAA emplacements over and over again if I can't tell they are dead.  I wonder if this means we will be able to cause damage to some tanks and vehicles we were not able to before?  I'm also excited about the new netcode and improved stability.  Actually there is a lot to look forward to in this update.  Thank you for the new information. 

[Thad]

Just now, Torso said:

lol..so many great things, so many ungrateful people.

 

 

Salutations,

 

Actually, I don't think they are ungrateful. I think they are intelligent perfectionist alpha types that want complete accurate realism in the simulations they play. Well as much as possible. Such individuals can be very demanding and can sometimes come across as ungrateful. They aren't, they are just the way they are. 

Edited November 9, 2018 by Thad

[Torso]

5 minutes ago, Thad said:

Such individuals can be very demanding and can sometimes come across as ungrateful. They aren't, they are just the way they are. 

 

Oh I agree, thus the lol and the followup sentence. I just know how hard the dev teams works and to put out such a great DD then to get henpecked with such minutia right away just comes off a bit..unappreciative sounding is all. But again, no offense meant and of course as stated it is driven by love and passion we all know. We all want this to be the best it can be. 

[spamRoast]

Omg... that P-47 and its cockpit look gorgeous! I can't wait to see the P-38 and P-51 among all the others. So much love for this team and their products! 

[Avimimus]

I do rather like the idea of the U-2 in a second patch for the holidays - but I'll be happy so long as it comes out someday!

 

1 hour ago, InProgress said:

My favorite part is better damage for vehicles. It was really annoying for me to watch them explode all the time. I hope no more explosion and you will be able to get bunch of kills where tanks or trucks just smoke or burn or simply get immobilized. No more explosion all the time.

 

Hope it will works with AT guns or any other stationary targets. Getting explosions full of fire from shooting at aaa was silly.

 

Indeed. When they updated the effects so beautifully - this seemed to be the last thing in need of fixing. It really stands out.

[Asgar]

1 minute ago, Avimimus said:

I do rather like the idea of the U-2 in a second patch for the holidays - but I'll be happy so long as it comes out someday!

 

indeed, but the poor little U-2 shouldn't fly alone, i think some escort provided by a respectable adult would be good... You know, somene like Dora, she's great!