Rjel Posted March 29, 2019 Posted March 29, 2019 I'm more than ready for the P-51. It was a dream for someday when BoS was announced years ago. I never really thought I'd see it this soon. But I'm nearly as eager for all the remaining planes coming in BoBP. This plane set is why I bought into all of the previous installments of BoX. 1
ROCKET_KNUT Posted March 29, 2019 Posted March 29, 2019 Anti submarine warfare in coastal command, Bay of Biscay and the Englisch Channel, starting in 1940... I know, boring! 1
LP1888 Posted March 29, 2019 Posted March 29, 2019 19 minutes ago, Diggun said: I'd take a '42-early '44 'leaning forward into France', or any kind of Western Desert / Med med expansion over Pacific anyday. I'm going to hide now. My friend that would be deadly to see a med expansion!!! not two interested in Pacific aswell lol
Bullets Posted March 29, 2019 Posted March 29, 2019 6 minutes ago, LP1888 said: My friend that would be deadly to see a med expansion!!! not two interested in Pacific aswell lol Yeah nah nah yeah nah yeah
Cpt_Cool Posted March 29, 2019 Posted March 29, 2019 I wonder if they could fit Coral Sea, Midway, and Guadalcanal all into Pacific Vol 1. Since some aspects will be much more steamlined (maps with lots of water, and shorter battles to research).
Trooper117 Posted March 29, 2019 Posted March 29, 2019 I love how when the pacific is mentioned there are people drooling all over the prospect... yet all the Wolololo stuff that is constantly spouted is not doing anything magically to make it happen. I rest my case M'lud...
Rjel Posted March 29, 2019 Posted March 29, 2019 26 minutes ago, Trooper117 said: I love how when the pacific is mentioned there are people drooling all over the prospect... yet all the Wolololo stuff that is constantly spouted is not doing anything magically to make it happen. I rest my case M'lud... "I believe. I believe." ~ Natalie Wood as quoted in Miracle of 34th Street.
RedKestrel Posted March 29, 2019 Posted March 29, 2019 50 minutes ago, Cpt_Cool said: I wonder if they could fit Coral Sea, Midway, and Guadalcanal all into Pacific Vol 1. Since some aspects will be much more steamlined (maps with lots of water, and shorter battles to research). I'm personally more into the European theatre (east and west) in terms of aircraft and missions, but I'd absolutely buy into the Pacific. I think your idea is probably what I'd like to see, or something like it: Battle of Midway/Coral Sea and some kind of land-based campaign. The problem with Midway and Coral Sea is that its not really possible to have a meaningful career mode with just those maps, and multiplayer would have limited targets and missions. With a Midway map and a land-map of some kind, you could have a really interesting combo. Have a carrier fighter and dive bomber modeled for each side for Midway, then have a fighter and attacker modeled for land-based operations. Of course it would be extremely challenging, with modeling ships, especially carriers, and spawning-in on carriers in multiplayer may be tricky. But if they could pull it off just the carrier ops experience would be very very cool.
Cpt_Cool Posted March 29, 2019 Posted March 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, RedKestrel said: Of course it would be extremely challenging, with modeling ships, especially carriers, and spawning-in on carriers in multiplayer may be tricky. But if they could pull it off just the carrier ops experience would be very very cool. The biggest thing is it would be so different from what we have now. Fresh planes, fresh theater, fresh tech, new nations, stunning sunny South Pacific maps. I think the enthusiasm from untapped markets would be high. It would probably be the most ambitious project from this team to date, but man I think it could cash in like no other flight sim ever. Heck, it could even lead to a bustling US based MP server (I can already see the two-figure ping in my minds eye).? 1
blitze Posted March 29, 2019 Posted March 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, Cpt_Cool said: The biggest thing is it would be so different from what we have now. Fresh planes, fresh theater, fresh tech, new nations, stunning sunny South Pacific maps. I think the enthusiasm from untapped markets would be high. It would probably be the most ambitious project from this team to date, but man I think it could cash in like no other flight sim ever. Heck, it could even lead to a bustling US based MP server (I can already see the two-figure ping in my minds eye).? Let them get Bodenplat out first - new theatre - new US planes of which you have 1 already - Lovely wet flat look of the low lands. What more could you want?? Beaches? Take a trip back to Kuban for some nice beaches.
=27=Davesteu Posted March 29, 2019 Posted March 29, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Cpt_Cool said: I wonder if they could fit Coral Sea, Midway, and Guadalcanal all into Pacific Vol 1. Since some aspects will be much more steamlined (maps with lots of water, and shorter battles to research). That's never going to happen. Too many types and sub-variants of aircraft needed, too many different capital ships involved, and Guadalcanal doesn't work without Rabaul. Objectively speaking, starting with a 1942/43 Papua and New Guinea campaign pack and continuing with a smaller Coral Sea pack is the only feasible way to implement a general overview of the whole scope of the Asiatic-Pacific-Theatre air war. But lately I'm somewhat pessimistic regarding the Asiatic-Pacific-Theatre in this game... Edited March 29, 2019 by =27=Davesteu
Diggun Posted March 29, 2019 Posted March 29, 2019 But what will the DD at 5:25 today have in it? Hmmmmm?? I doubt video.....
Cpt_Cool Posted March 29, 2019 Posted March 29, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, blitze said: What more could you want?? Beaches? Take a trip back to Kuban for some nice beaches. Palm trees. Its been a long winter in MN. Edited March 29, 2019 by Cpt_Cool
blitze Posted March 29, 2019 Posted March 29, 2019 Just now, Cpt_Cool said: Palm trees. Its been a long winter in MN. There's always SoCal or Florida but - yeah - maybe a true island escape like Hawaii might be the ticket
Sharpe43 Posted March 29, 2019 Posted March 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, blitze said: Let them get Bodenplat out first - new theatre - new US planes of which you have 1 already - Lovely wet flat look of the low lands. What more could you want?? Beaches? Take a trip back to Kuban for some nice beaches. to be fair, it's anything but flat over here... 1
blitze Posted March 29, 2019 Posted March 29, 2019 Forgot to add - meanwhile in Finland - the snow is still there although like a big slurpy at the moment as it slowly thaws away and I endure riding my MTB through it. I like challenges. :D:D 1
Diggun Posted March 29, 2019 Posted March 29, 2019 Whereas here in Cambridge, the sun is shining, weather is sweet, and it's gonna be warm enough for beers outside by the river after work. It's a tough life.
MarderIV Posted March 29, 2019 Posted March 29, 2019 Not to mention hunting for naval battlegroups, watching for tell-tale wakes from a distance; and the actual attacks themselves. My most terrifying memories of that was in Il-2 1946; for some reason they were always the most hair-raising experiences for me. A ton of planes dive-bombing on ships, torpedo runs. The sky practically on fire. It was pure chaos. But at the same time I can see the challenge of even setting up those instances from a technical perspective. Having just two or three flights engaged in naval battles for performance reasons might not be terribly exciting. Maybe once optimizations come in it would be more attractive? Oh what I would give for the Zerg. ?
blitze Posted March 29, 2019 Posted March 29, 2019 We got 12 Degrees C here today but not so sunny. Naval Battles with aircraft - yeah, oneday the chaos will be recreated but I think there needs to be some serious work done on parcelling out AI and Flight Modelling and Physics across cores for that to become up to the level we would like. That coupled with decent detail for wide FOV VR. Looking at you Ryzen 3 with 16 cores and the next gen Nvidia cards with decent performance leap. Or Navi 20
RedKestrel Posted March 29, 2019 Posted March 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, Cpt_Cool said: The biggest thing is it would be so different from what we have now. Fresh planes, fresh theater, fresh tech, new nations, stunning sunny South Pacific maps. I think the enthusiasm from untapped markets would be high. It would probably be the most ambitious project from this team to date, but man I think it could cash in like no other flight sim ever. Heck, it could even lead to a bustling US based MP server (I can already see the two-figure ping in my minds eye).? I think BoBP will be a good gateway to more Western players. Pacific may be a bit more of a niche interest but if BoBp gets a lot of buy in, the interest will be there. I think with the Pacific I look at it as how it would improve the series as a whole, the depth and breadth of Great Battles would be approaching Il-2 1946 in terms of theatres and aircraft. A sim of that size, updated constantly the way it is right now, and with third party devs coming online for various side projects, we could have a very expansive sim ecosystem here. 1
Ribbon Posted March 29, 2019 Posted March 29, 2019 Oh God, what have i done/started! ? (Palm trees and beaches)
=gRiJ=Roman- Posted March 29, 2019 Posted March 29, 2019 (edited) 0DD=3.013+1w? Now in English, doc! (No Developers Diary = update next week ...?) Edited March 29, 2019 by 15[Span.]/JG51Spartan 1
Sharpe43 Posted March 29, 2019 Posted March 29, 2019 Just now, 15[Span.]/JG51Spartan said: 0DD=3.013+1w? No DD = update Next week ...? wait and see…(unfortunately)
danielprates Posted March 29, 2019 Posted March 29, 2019 3 hours ago, RedKestrel said: I think BoBP will be a good gateway to more Western players. Pacific may be a bit more of a niche interest but if BoBp gets a lot of buy in, the interest will be there. I think with the Pacific I look at it as how it would improve the series as a whole, the depth and breadth of Great Battles would be approaching Il-2 1946 in terms of theatres and aircraft. A sim of that size, updated constantly the way it is right now, and with third party devs coming online for various side projects, we could have a very expansive sim ecosystem here. How popular was "pacific fighters" when it came out? Was it a hit?
=SqSq=SignorMagnifico Posted March 29, 2019 Posted March 29, 2019 No DD this week? Half Life 3 confirmed! 2
danielprates Posted March 29, 2019 Posted March 29, 2019 23 minutes ago, =SqSq=SignorMagnifico said: No DD this week? Half Life 3 confirmed! Oh that goes without saying.
Ribbon Posted March 29, 2019 Posted March 29, 2019 1 hour ago, danielprates said: How popular was "pacific fighters" when it came out? Was it a hit? Yes! It brought me into il2!
Legioneod Posted March 29, 2019 Posted March 29, 2019 No DD this week. I have it on good authority that the 262 is being released on monday.
Poochnboo Posted March 29, 2019 Posted March 29, 2019 I'm thinking , next two airplanes: ME262 and P-51 Mustang. 1 2
ADorante Posted March 29, 2019 Posted March 29, 2019 2 hours ago, danielprates said: How popular was "pacific fighters" when it came out? Was it a hit? I saw a sales figure once, but I couldn't be certain if it was just one region or world-wide. But there was also the number of sales of the original IL-2 Sturmovik in the same column. Suffice to say, the sales numbers of the original have never been reached again by any further version from Maddox Games.
ww2fighter20 Posted March 29, 2019 Posted March 29, 2019 (edited) One major problem with the battle of midway might be making the carriers since you need the American Yorktown, Enterprise and Hornet (All Yorktown Class carriers) and the Japanese Akagi, Hiryu, Kaga and Soryu (all 4 of them where it's own carrier class!) to properly make midway. Because we are going to take off and land on the carriers the carriers need alot more detail then the ships we currently have. Not only that but another important issue is the large amount of aa guns carriers had and sailing close together along with several other ships (which often where full with aa guns themselves) and groups of dive and torpedo bombers, the game probably can't handle it considering it currently cannot even handle dozens of bombers together. It's sadly very unlikely we are going to see midway or any other battle that involves carrier groups or large amount of ships (like normandy). I would love to be proven wrong about this though since I would love to see battles like midway but I am afraid it isn't going to happen because of the difficuilty of making several capital ships and game limits. Edited March 29, 2019 by ww2fighter20 1
Feathered_IV Posted March 29, 2019 Posted March 29, 2019 3 hours ago, danielprates said: How popular was "pacific fighters" when it came out? Was it a hit? The creator Oleg Maddox said that it was the biggest selling title after the Forgotten Battles initial release. He also said that there were an estimated 60,000 illegal downloads in the first two weeks when the game was leaked online. That should give some indication of how popular it was.
danielprates Posted March 29, 2019 Posted March 29, 2019 (edited) @EAF_Ribbon @Feathered_IV @ADorante that's encouraging, eh? I remember when I got it. It was groundbreaking, and carrier operations was depicted so well! For anything of the period, at least. I am pretty sure any similar BoX iteration have everything to be as successful. Edited March 29, 2019 by danielprates 1
Voidhunger Posted March 29, 2019 Posted March 29, 2019 35 minutes ago, Feathered_IV said: The creator Oleg Maddox said that it was the biggest selling title after the Forgotten Battles initial release. He also said that there were an estimated 60,000 illegal downloads in the first two weeks when the game was leaked online. That should give some indication of how popular it was. hmmm I think I tried it once, but its good to know, If it makes them money one scenario in pacific would be nice aaaand we can return to the western front or to the east.
Bullets Posted March 29, 2019 Posted March 29, 2019 2 hours ago, Poochnboo said: I'm thinking , next two airplanes: ME262 and P-51 Mustang. Don't tease me like that 2
Ribbon Posted March 29, 2019 Posted March 29, 2019 1 hour ago, danielprates said: @EAF_Ribbon @Feathered_IV @ADorante that's encouraging, eh? I remember when I got it. It was groundbreaking, and carrier operations was depicted so well! For anything of the period, at least. I am pretty sure any similar BoX iteration have everything to be as successful. My friend gifted it to me, i wasn't MP guy back then and i flew it with m&k..... Most of my fun was carrier takeoff/landings and landing bombers on tropical islands, torpedoing the ships........just couldn't get enough of it
Field-Ops Posted March 30, 2019 Posted March 30, 2019 Whats the secret code to unlock viewing of the DD?
Rjel Posted March 30, 2019 Posted March 30, 2019 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Field-Ops said: Whats the secret code to unlock viewing of the DD? It's developer diary. shhhhh. Keep it quiet. 7 hours ago, Poochnboo said: I'm thinking , next two airplanes: ME262 and P-51 Mustang. Make it so. Edited March 30, 2019 by Rjel None 1
Trooper117 Posted April 1, 2019 Posted April 1, 2019 Look, I've proved to you that wololelelolo doesn't bloody work!
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