London's calling

[Hamaha15]

London project - WIP

 

Hello all,

 

screenshots from the London adventure. The map is not in its final shape in no area, the procedures still in developement. The screenshots, however, give an idea of what Greater London may look like at the end.

 

The once completed city model will serve as a backdrop only. It's not meant to play a central role because too much detail will always lack due to library and ressource limitations. The idea is to recreate a much simplified but true network of the major roads and railway lines which form the fishbones to which the suburbs will be attached in a way to match reasonably well the prototype. The area outside the flyable zone can be beefed up by carrying over the Ground objects from the Moscow map. Looking at it from a distance, the impression it makes is driven by the roads mainly, not that much by the buildings.

 

The suburbs in the flyable area require more attention, progress is slower thus. E.g. the recreation of Croydon airport and its surroundings took one entire Sunday to complete. However, I expect an increase in productivity with more experience and some standard patterns created which can be repeated more easily. The London airfields are made solid ground but attempting to land at Croydon airfield showed that the terrain is too rough and bumpy for a secure landing. I crashed my Mustang repeatedly...

 

Timewise a satifying result can be achieved hopefully by the end of the year to share it as a map mod.

 

Cheers

 

 

RAF Hendon in the left center. On the left corner you see what will become the town of Wembley with its stadium.

 

 

Croydon airport and its immediate surroundings. The Croydon swimming pool will be camouflaged before the skies are open to the public.

Edited November 17, 2022 by Hamaha15

[352ndOscar]

Fantastic!  Kenley and Biggin Hill would really nice too (shameless plug!)

[Sandmarken]

Cool! ?

[Hamaha15]

Kenley and Biggin Hill will definitely be considered. To which level of detail depends on the time spent to achieve a minimum overall detail. Although within the flyable area these airfields won't be usable w/o major terrain levelling.

 

And detailing airfields is time consuming.

[DN308]

@Hamaha15, your talent Is still impressive.

 

The future of the serie Is yours!!!

 

[Blitzen]

How do you think this will compare to the now very old but still not too bad Cliffs of Dover version?( Looking forward to you efforts!)

[Jade_Monkey]

This is great. I wish the ground decal changes didn't require mods on. It would be so cool to make them mission objects.

[352ndOscar]

3 hours ago, Hamaha15 said:

Kenley and Biggin Hill will definitely be considered. To which level of detail depends on the time spent to achieve a minimum overall detail. Although within the flyable area these airfields won't be usable w/o major terrain levelling.

 

And detailing airfields is time consuming.

Yes, but they can be bombed - right?

[AEthelraedUnraed]

1 hour ago, Jade_Monkey said:

This is great. I wish the ground decal changes didn't require mods on. It would be so cool to make them mission objects.

Ground decal changes don't require Mods On

[Jade_Monkey]

How do you make a mission with ground decals that you changed, without changing the base map for the rest of missions? Is that possible? I still haven't wrapped my head around that.

[AWC]

13 hours ago, Hamaha15 said:

London project - WIP

 

Hello all,

 

screenshots from the London adventure. The map is not in its final shape in no area, the procedures still in developement. The screenshots, however, give an idea of what Greater London may look like at the end.

 

The once completed city model will serve as a backdrop only. It's not meant to play a central role because too much detail will always lack due to library and ressource limitations. The idea is to recreate a much simplified but true network of the major roads and railway lines which form the fishbones to which the suburbs will be attached in a way to match reasonably well the prototype. The area outside the flyable zone can be beefed up by carrying over the Ground objects from the Moscow map. Looking at it from a distance, the impression it makes is driven by the roads mainly, not that much by the buildings.

 

The suburbs in the flyable area require more attention, progress is slower thus. E.g. the recreation of Croydon airport and its surroundings took one entire Sunday to complete. However, I expect an increase in productivity with more experience and some standard patterns created which can be repeated more easily. The London airfields are made solid ground but attempting to land at Croydon airfield showed that the terrain is too rough and bumpy for a secure landing. I crashed my Mustang repeatedly...

 

Timewise a satifying result can be achieved hopefully by the end of the year to share it as a map mod.

 

Cheers

 

 

RAF Hendon in the left center. On the left corner you see what will become the town of Wimbledon with its stadium.

 

 

Croydon airport and its immediate surroundings. The Croydon swimming pool will be camouflaged before the skies are open to the public.

 

This looks absolutely amazing Hamaha! Great work, looking forward to the full product

[AEthelraedUnraed]

5 hours ago, Jade_Monkey said:

How do you make a mission with ground decals that you changed, without changing the base map for the rest of missions? Is that possible? I still haven't wrapped my head around that.

It's definitely possible. You can see it in action in my Hürtgenwald campaign.

 

My Surface Editing Manual details how to; basically you can create your own textures.tini files that link to any Surface.dat file you like, and which in its turn you can link in a mission file.

 

[sevenless]

Amazing work here as for BoBP. They should integrate all that into the career map of the games.

[Hamaha15]

Good Evening,

 

A lot of questions...

 

@Blitzen: CloD may be old but isn't outdated at all I think. London is nicely reproduced in CloD because it played an essential role during the Battle of Britain. The improvised version of the Normandy map adventure won't be a match for the missing London sights alone. Maybe someone from the community, or even the devs, could make the 3D models from CloD available in the BoN library. Boths sims come from the same stable - there shouldn't be a licence issue. Plus an Eiffel tower...

 

@Jade_Monkey: please have a look at @AEthelraedUnraed's manual to answer your question. To share the previous Ardennes map updates I used to offer two options: one that makes you change the base map and thus requires Mods On which is interesting e.g. if you use a third party mission generator like Vander's EMG but don't want to design your own missions. The second option comes as a basic, editable mission with a specific map of its own according to AEthel's instructions and thus works in Mods Off mode. This option will work in any case with the London update but I'm not sure whether the Mods On option can be shared because the present add-on requires forest and maybe even water updates. I have to sort that out yet.

 

@352ndOscar: every place within reach can be attacked. That applies to Kenley and Biggin Hill of course - and Heathrow and Gatwick and Gravesend...

 

Cheers

[DN308]

@Hamaha15Absolutely gorgeous. 
In another place, would you be able to make Comines and Denain?

[BOO]

1 hour ago, Hamaha15 said:

Good Evening,

 

Maybe someone from the community, or even the devs, could make the 3D models from CloD available in the BoN library. Boths sims come from the same stable - there shouldn't be a licence issue. 

 

CLoD is no longer part of the 1C empire. 

 

1 hour ago, Blitzen said:

I do like CloD DWT with all its improvements from ATAG over time, and think their England map including London are pretty nifty to fly over especially with the newer True Sky skies and clouds.?

From TFS you mean. True sky isnt a part of the public game yet - unless youre a tester (which you may well be). 

Edited November 14, 2022 by BOO

[Hamaha15]

As you like it - Kenley airfield WIP

 

 

Edited November 22, 2022 by Hamaha15

[Blitzen]

Wow!

[Trooper117]

Good effort!

[jollyjack]

I can't wait, so i already bought this, although my wife says i am still under 16 :

 

 

[56RAF_Stickz]

so you are suggesting your wife is a cradle snatcher

[jollyjack]

think i snatched it myself to keep her happy ...

[Hamaha15]

1 hour ago, jollyjack said:

I can't wait, so i already bought this, although my wife says i am still under 16 :

You'll be certainly quicker with your kit than I will be with the London map...

 

I better don't to ask my wife what she thinks how old I am...

Edited November 22, 2022 by Hamaha15

[Hamaha15]

Great Western Aerodrome

 

Flying in westerly direction along the combat zone boundery and rubbernecking to catch a glimpse of what lies beyond. In the foreground Fairy Aviation's Great Western Aerodrome near a hamlet named Heathrow. In the background Heston Airpark.

 

 

 

 

 

[Hamaha15]

...and Biggin Hill...

 

Not final. The second pictures clearly shows how wavy and bumpy the terrain is. A terrible place for aviators...

 

 

[Deacon352nd]

Gimme, gimme, gimme, please!  These look great. 

[DD_Friar]

Biggin Hill is actually known as "Biggin On The Bump" due to the fact of the rolling countryside that surrounds it and that it sits atop a plateau. I live quite close to it and only just recently had a tour of the Heritage Restoration Hangers they have there. 

[Mistralfred901]

It's very beautiful Hamaha !!! Great work !!! Congratulations ! Beau travail !?

Edited December 1, 2022 by Mistralfred901

[AWC]

Any word on this project?

[Hamaha15]

Good evening,

 

glad to read of your living interest in the London scenery project. I promise I will take it to a decent finish.

 

Since the devs have signalled they're open to integrate such 3rd party content into the official game I'm working hard on revamping the known Ardennes/Eifel scenery to make it really fit for commercial use. Then the central Netherlands (Oyster, Scheldt Estuary, Market Garden) will follow because scenery updating has progressed very far during the last two years in this area. Timewise that will take me to the middle of the year.

 

After the conclusion of the continental projects I will resume the work on detailing London. However, in contrast to the continental scenery, the London update will always be a stopgap solution because of the missing monuments and sights alone.

 

Cheers

[Mtnbiker1998]

37 minutes ago, Hamaha15 said:

Good evening,

 

glad to read of your living interest in the London scenery project. I promise I will take it to a decent finish.

 

Since the devs have signalled they're open to integrate such 3rd party content into the official game I'm working hard on revamping the known Ardennes/Eifel scenery to make it really fit for commercial use. Then the central Netherlands (Oyster, Scheldt Estuary, Market Garden) will follow because scenery updating has progressed very far during the last two years in this area. Timewise that will take me to the middle of the year.

 

After the conclusion of the continental projects I will resume the work on detailing London. However, in contrast to the continental scenery, the London update will always be a stopgap solution because of the missing monuments and sights alone.

 

Cheers

Super exited to see the community Rhineland improvements make it into the game eventually! It'll really help the map out

[nachinus]

Really good news. I'm more than ready to purchase map enhancement dlcs.

[AWC]

2 hours ago, Hamaha15 said:

Good evening,

 

glad to read of your living interest in the London scenery project. I promise I will take it to a decent finish.

 

Since the devs have signalled they're open to integrate such 3rd party content into the official game I'm working hard on revamping the known Ardennes/Eifel scenery to make it really fit for commercial use. Then the central Netherlands (Oyster, Scheldt Estuary, Market Garden) will follow because scenery updating has progressed very far during the last two years in this area. Timewise that will take me to the middle of the year.

 

After the conclusion of the continental projects I will resume the work on detailing London. However, in contrast to the continental scenery, the London update will always be a stopgap solution because of the missing monuments and sights alone.

 

Cheers

 

Wow! So excited to see that you are officially involved with IL-2, I'm it will look amazing.

[Cloyd]

On 11/22/2022 at 11:05 AM, jollyjack said:

I can't wait, so i already bought this, although my wife says i am still under 16 :

 

 

Hey, try to catch up, dude. I'm way ahead of ya.

[Nickkyboy99]

Any news?

[Blitzen]

?

[Stonehouse]

Sadly I think you may find your answer here