The IL-2 Speed and Altitude Record Book

[[DBS]Browning]

Rules

1. All attempts at setting a record must be made via the "Quick Mission" maker.

2. The Map must be Kuban Autumn 1943 at 12:00

3. The difficulty settings must have the "Instrument panel" on. All "Simplifications" aside from "Warmed up engine" must be off. All "Piloting assistance" must be off. Any other "Gameplay" options such as "Technochat" may be on or off.

4. Any modifications to your plane and loadouts are allowed

5. Mods must be off

 

Speed records

1. The speed record must be in KMH

2. Diving is allowed

3. The speed record must come from the in-game instrument panel

4. Your pilot must survive the record attempt and land. You do not need to land on a runway, and it is OK if your plane is damaged in the attempt or on landing, so long as your pilot survives.

5. Your spawning altitude must be sustainable in level flight. For example, the SE.5a can not maintain level flight at 10,000m, so you must not spawn at this altitude, however, you may zoom-climb above your spawning altitude before you begin your speed record attempt.

 

Altitude records

1. The altitude record must be in meters

2. Zoom-climbs are allowed

3. The altitude record must come from the in-game instrument panel

4. Your spawning altitude must be sustainable in level flight. For example, the SE.5a can not maintain level flight at 10,000m, so you must not spawn at this altitude.

 

Posting a record

Posting a record is easy. Follow the rules and set your speed or altitude record ingame and then post your record in this thread.

The post might be as simple as "I managed to fly up to 10,005m in the Fokker Dr.I". If your record beats the old record, you will enter the record book.

You may optionally include evidence of your record in your post. This will back up your claim if it is ever challenged.

Evidence may include:

1) In-game tracks

2) Recorded video

3) A screenshot

4) A list of steps to reproduce your record

5) Tacview recordings (Tacview speeds and altitudes may be inaccurate and are not a substitute for the ingame instrument HUD)

 

Challenging a record

If you think a record is not possible, or you think it broke the rules you may challenge it by posting your disagreement in this thread. The record setter will be asked to provide evidence of their record. The more competition there is for the particular record, the more evidence will be needed to support your record. The final decision will be made by me, but I welcome any help in deciding if a record should stand.

 

 

I-16 type 24

Altitude record:

1. Halon 8554m 1/3/21
2. Stoopy 8173m 28/2/21

Speed record:

1. Salzi 671kmh 3/3/21
2. Stoopy 669kmh 26/2/21

 

MiG-3 series 24

Altitude record: No Attempts Made

Speed record:

1. 800kmh 3/3/21

 

Il-2 model of 1941

Altitude record: No Attempts Made

Speed record:

1. oc2209 600kph 9/3/21

 

Pe-2 series 35

Altitude record: No Attempts Made

Speed record: No Attempts Made

 

Bf 109 E-7

Altitude record:

1. CUJ_1970 11,126m 2/3/21

Speed record:

1. Monksilver 864kmh 2/3/21

 

Bf 109 F-2

Altitude record:

1. CUJ_1970 10,683m 3/3/21

Speed record: No Attempts Made

 

Bf 110 E-2

Altitude record:

1. CUJO_1970 9,529m 9/3/21

Speed record: No Attempts Made

 

Ju 88 A-4

Altitude record:

1. CUJ_1970 9853m 28/2/21

Speed record:

1. Monksilver 778kmh 2/3/21
2. CUJ_1970 750kmh 28/2/21

 

LaGG-3 series 29

Altitude record: No Attempts Made

Speed record: No Attempts Made

 

Yak-1 series 69

Altitude record: No Attempts Made

Speed record: No Attempts Made

 

Il-2 model of 1942

Altitude record: No Attempts Made

Speed record: No Attempts Made

 

Pe-2 series 87

Altitude record: No Attempts Made

Speed record:

1. oc2209 811kph 9/3/21

 

Bf 109 F-4

Altitude record:

1. CUJO_1970 11,780m 9/3/21
2. Monksilver 10,931m 28/2/21

Speed record:

1. Monksilver 905kmh 2/3/21

 

Bf 109 G-2

Altitude record: No Attempts Made

Speed record: No Attempts Made

 

Ju 87 D-3

Altitude record:

1. Stoopy 721kph 13/3/21

Speed record: No Attempts Made

 

He 111 H-6

Altitude record: No Attempts Made

Speed record:

1. Monksilver 861kmh 3/3/21
2. Browning 853kmh 1/3/21
3. Monksilver 853kmh 3/3/21

 

Yak-7B series 36

Altitude record: No Attempts Made

Speed record: No Attempts Made

 

P-39L-1

Altitude record: No Attempts Made

Speed record:

1. oc2209 880kph 9/3/21

 

Il-2 model of 1943

Altitude record: No Attempts Made

Speed record: No Attempts Made

 

A-20B

Altitude record:

1. ROCKET_KNUT 10,937m 13/3/21

Speed record:

1. ROCKET_KNUT 640kph 13/3/21

 

Bf 109 G-4

Altitude record: No Attempts Made

Speed record: No Attempts Made

 

Fw 190 A-5

Altitude record: No Attempts Made

Speed record: No Attempts Made

 

Bf 110 G-2

Altitude record: No Attempts Made

Speed record:

1. Monksilver 652kmh 2/3/21

 

He 111 H-16

Altitude record: No Attempts Made

Speed record:

1. Monksilver 780kmh 3/3/21

2. Salzi 714kmh 3/3/21

3. Monksilver 713kmh 2/3/21

 

Spitfire Mk.IXe

Altitude record:

1. AndytotheD 12,869m 17/3/21

Speed record:

1. oc2209 822kph 9/3/21

  

Tempest Mk.V ser.2

Altitude record:

1. Monksilver 10,234m 1/3/21

Speed record:

1. Monksilver 919kmh 2/3/21

 

P-47D-28

Altitude record: No Attempts Made

Speed record:

1. -Astra-TheRedPanda 938kmh 28/2/21

  

P-51D-15

Altitude record:

1. Siv5122 10,101m 1/3/21

Speed record:

1. Siv5122 812kmh 1/3/21

 

Bf 109 G-14

Altitude record:

1. Monksilver 12,096m 2/3/21

Speed record: No Attempts Made

1. Monksilver 872kmh 2/3/21

 

Bf 109 K-4

Altitude record:

1. 11,886m Monksilver 2/3/21

Speed record:

1. -Astra-TheRedPanda 930kmh 28/2/21
2. Monksilver 875kmh 2/3/21

 

Fw 190 A-8

Altitude record:

1. CUJ_1970 10,126m 27/2/21

Speed record:

1. CUJ_1970 889kmh 27/2/21

  

Me 262 A

Altitude record: No Attempts Made

Speed record:

1. Browning 1000kmh 28/2/21
2. -Astra-TheRedPanda 995kmh 28/2/21
3. oc2209 981kmh 26/2/21

 

Bf 109 G-6 Late

Altitude record: No Attempts Made

Speed record: No Attempts Made

  

Fw 190 A-6

Altitude record: No Attempts Made

Speed record: No Attempts Made

 

 D-22

Altitude record: No Attempts Made

Speed record:

1. Cavalier 930kmh 2/3/21
2. Browning 928 1/3/12
3. Cavalier 920kmh 26/2/21

 

SPAD 13.C1

Altitude record: No Attempts Made

Speed record: No Attempts Made

  

S.E.5a

Altitude record: No Attempts Made

Speed record: No Attempts Made

 

Sopwith Camel

Altitude record: No Attempts Made

Speed record: No Attempts Made

  

Sopwith Dolphin

Altitude record: No Attempts Made

Speed record: No Attempts Made

Bristol F2B (F.II / F.III)

Altitude record: No Attempts Made

Speed record: No Attempts Made

 

  

Albatros D.Va

Altitude record: No Attempts Made

Speed record: No Attempts Made

 

Fokker Dr.I

Altitude record: No Attempts Made

Speed record: No Attempts Made

  

Fokker D.VII

Altitude record: No Attempts Made

Speed record: No Attempts Made

Fokker D.VIIF

Altitude record: No Attempts Made

Speed record: No Attempts Made

 

Pfalz D.IIIa

Altitude record: No Attempts Made

Speed record: No Attempts Made

  

Halberstadt CL.II (180 h.p. / 200 h.p.)

Altitude record:

1. Stoopy 4704m 28/2/21

Speed record:

1. Stoopy 309kmh 28/2/21

 

Hurricane Mk.II

Altitude record:

1. Monksilver 10,130m 3/3/21

Speed record:

1. Monksilver 730kmh 3/3/21

 

La-5 series 8

Altitude record: No Attempts Made

Speed record: No Attempts Made

 

La-5FN series 2

Altitude record: No Attempts Made

Speed record:

1. oc2209 748kph 9/3/21

 

Yak-1(b) series 127

Altitude record: No Attempts Made

Speed record: No Attempts Made

  

U-2VS

Altitude record:

1. Stoopy 4377m 28/2/21

Speed record:

1. Monksilver 280kmh 3/3/21
2. Stoopy 272kmh 28/2/21

P-38J-25

Altitude record:

1. Stoopy 13,065m 1/3/21

Speed record:

1. Stoopy 851kmh 1/3/21

 

P-40E-1

Altitude record: No Attempts Made

Speed record:

1. BlitzPig_EL 900kmh 26/2/21

 

Supermarine Spitfire Mk.VB

Altitude record: No Attempts Made

Speed record: No Attempts Made

 

Bf 109 G-6

Altitude record:

1. CUJ_1970 11,465m 27/2/21

Speed record: No Attempts Made

 

Fw 190 A-3

Altitude record: No Attempts Made

Speed record: No Attempts Made

  

Fw 190 D-9

Altitude record:

1. easterling77 11,669m 17/3/21

Speed record: No Attempts Made

1. oc2209 878kph 9/3/21
2. easterling77 872kmh 17/3/21

 

MC.202 series VIII

Altitude record:

1. Fabioccio 11,254m 9/3/21
2. Fabioccio 11,119m 4/3/21

Speed record:

1. Fabioccio 825kmh 9/3/21

 

Hs 129 B-2

Altitude record: No Attempts Made

Speed record:

1. Stoopy 697kmh 24/2/21

 

Ju 52/3m g4e

Altitude record: No Attempts Made

Speed record:

1. Monksilver 562kmh 2/3/21

 

 Yak-9 ser.1

Altitude record: No Attempts Made

Speed record: No Attempts Made

 

 Yak-9T ser.1

Altitude record: No Attempts Made

Speed record:

1. oc2209 811kph 09/3/20
2. Halon 783kmh 26/2/21

 

 

 

Edited April 11, 2021 by [DBS]Browning

[40plus]

Fun idea 

[Irishratticus72]

Imma gonna plough a furrow. 

[Stoopy]

Great idea and thanks for coming up with it!

 

[BlitzPig_EL]

Back in old IL2, I Took an Me 163 without ammo, and with unlimited fuel, pointed the nose up and punched it.  Climbed till I was bored with it.  If it had been modeled I'm sure I would have been at the edge of the atmosphere.  The vision bubble was so small there was only gray below me.  I wish I could remember the altitude displayed on the speed bar.

[Stoopy]

Quick question as my test pilot suits up for his first speed run... Since diving is allowed, this means my max speed record can be what was momentarily achieved in the dive, not level flight afterwards, right? As long as the pilot survives of course.

[[DBS]Browning]

10 minutes ago, Stoopy said:

Quick question as my test pilot suits up for his first speed run... Since diving is allowed, this means my max speed record can be what was momentarily achieved in the dive, not level flight afterwards, right? As long as the pilot survives of course.

 

Correct. The pilot must survive and the plane must land (or crash land), so no bailing out or ending the flight before landing to survive.

[Stoopy]

8 minutes ago, [DBS]Browning said:

 

Correct. The pilot must survive and the plane must land (or crash land), so no bailing out or ending the flight before landing to survive.

 

Thank you.  I will stress this point to all subsequent test pilots who replace the first one...  ?

[Stoopy]

I managed to fly at a speed of 697 Kph in the Hs 129 B-2.   Despite losing just a few parts.    ?

 

Optional screenies below, recorded flight track and TacView recording available upon request.

 

Edited February 24, 2021 by Stoopy

[[DBS]Browning]

Record entered! Congrats.

Just a reminder that it's the speed displayed on the HUD, not cockpit instruments that counts, but this record stands unless challenged anyway.

Edited February 24, 2021 by [DBS]Browning

[II/JG17_HerrMurf]

This is a pretty cool idea. Well done.

[Stoopy]

My heroic test pilot bravely achieved the stunning speed of 640 Kph in the I-16 type 24 and was happy to report minimal separation of airframe components upon his successful landing.

 

Oops.  Scratch that!  I re-read the rules and rule #4 was not followed (my I-16 started losing altitude immediately after spawning)

 

4. Your spawning altitude must be sustainable in level flight. For example, the SE.5a can not maintain level flight at 10,000m, so you must not spawn at this altitude.

 

 

 

 

Edited February 25, 2021 by Stoopy

[Monksilver]

He111-H6

605kph.

Despite losing a few control surfaces and an engine I managed to get it to the runway and landed it after a fashion and despite losing some more bits, like wheels and the other engine, the pilot lives on.

 

Bf109 E7

841kph.

landed well enough even if the parking wasn't ideal.

 

 

[[DBS]Browning]

Congrats Monksilver! Records added.

[oc2209]

I forgot about the map limitation. So this record isn't official and therefore can't be added. But I'll post it anyway.

 

The second I saw this thread I thought of the Jug. Started at 8,000 meters. Entered a shallow dive at full throttle, no boost applied. 150 octane fuel. 50% fuel load. Default weapon/ammo config.

 

I pulled out with this much altitude to spare:

 

 

542 MPH was the top speed reached, at 1706 feet.

 

I'm allergic to the metric system. Gives me hives.

 

No structural damage in the attempt (overshooting the runway was sloppiness on my part):

 

Edited February 25, 2021 by oc2209

[Monksilver]

couldn't resist trying the He111-H16 as well - does it matter that I forgot to turn bomb aim assist off, all flying and engine assists were off

speed 654kph

Problem with doing that was all my control surfaces got ripped off save for the flaps. Have to say it is a real challenge and real fun trying to control the plane simply through engine speed and flaps,  I managed to get it back from over the sea turning it 270 degrees in the process but in the end I didn't get to land where I liked but at least no one died.

 

 

[Stoopy]

25 minutes ago, oc2209 said:

...

No structural damage in the attempt...

 

You're not tryin' hard enough!!!! ?

 

Seriously though, cool post!

 

[[DBS]Browning]

Congrats @Monksilver, your record is added.

 

I also took a He111 (H6 this time) and set a new record of 774kmh to beat your 605kph.

 

Edited February 25, 2021 by [DBS]Browning

[oc2209]

32 minutes ago, Stoopy said:

 

You're not tryin' hard enough!!!! ?

 

Seriously though, cool post!

 

 

How's this for commitment to science?

 

 

My highest legitimate 262 run was 597 MPH on the deck. Which I know isn't very remarkable in a jet. I'm too afraid of Mach tuck to go faster in a steep dive.

 

I managed to hit ~520 with a 109K, and I couldn't quite reach 500 in a Spitfire. I guess I wasn't using enough throttle. I was more afraid of ripping off my elevators while pulling out of the dive, in the Spit, since they're so light to the touch (even at high speeds, it seems).

 

 

Nope, not damaged during the dive. Just a regular Spitfire groundloop.

[Monksilver]

38 minutes ago, [DBS]Browning said:

Congrats @Monksilver, your record is added.

 

I also took a He111 (H6 this time) and set a new record of 774kmh to beat your 605kph.

I had to take up that gauntlet.  Took me a while to work out how to get to that level of speed because the control surfaces come off just before 600kph and then the nose pitches up and so speed is lost but I worked out the trick. This really is quite addictive.

 

 He111-H6 804kph

This time also managed to jam my flaps at 100% so  I could only control the engines, quite a relief to 'land' without getting killed

[[DBS]Browning]

@MonksilverCongrats! I'll have a go at beating you tomorrow.

Also Monk here is a small secret...you can control both pitch and roll after you lose control surfaces by strategically shooting bits of your plane with the top gunner and causing drag.

Edited February 25, 2021 by [DBS]Browning

[Stoopy]

My heroic test pilot bravely achieved the stunning speed of 669 Kph in the I-16 type 24 and was happy to report only slightly greater separation of airframe components than the previously self-disqualified 640Kph effort.

 

Question:  Is there a way to see the instrument panel when playing back a flight track recording?  I know I briefly saw 670-something Kph during the pandemonium of the dive, but didn't get my fingers on the screenshot keys quick enough (but 669 is good too!)

 

 

1 hour ago, Monksilver said:

 He111-H6 804kph

 

@Monksilver - HOLY COW!!!!!   And since you're the first to break the 800Kph barrier here, let me be the one to buy you this virtual beer   ------------>?  

Edited February 25, 2021 by Stoopy

[BlitzPig_EL]

Hold my beer...

 

Of course I went for my baby...

 

I actually hit 900, but by the time I hit the screenshot key it fell off a couple, still, I'll take it.

 

Lost both ailerons, but otherwise OK.

 

She's a tough old bird.

 

BTW that speed equates to 557.9 mph in proper measurement.

Edited February 26, 2021 by BlitzPig_EL

[Monksilver]

@BlitzPig_EL - looks like you did it at the same time but I have learnt to spam screenshot when I start to come out of the bottom of the dive.

@Stoopy I'll let you give the 900kph beer to BlitzPig. I can't get the instrument panel up in replay either.

 

109 k-4 - 922kph

Also got the Ju52 up to 562kph, fair play to the boys in the back who all stayed remarkably calm. I wonder if I can get them to bail when going full tilt.

 

[Stoopy]

39 minutes ago, BlitzPig_EL said:

Hold my beer...

 

I actually hit 900, but by the time I hit the screenshot key it fell off a couple, still, I'll take it.

 

Outstanding!  Here's your celebratory 900Kph beer (don't ask if it's the same one you wanted us to hold for you, minus a swig or two... ?)    ?

[oc2209]

Okay, this one's official.

 

Me-262, 70% fuel load, removed 2 of the guns and frontal armor plate.

 

Mach tuck is a pain in the ass. If I try to keep a dive by pushing the stick down just a bit much, it lawn-darts. The altitude doesn't matter; at 20,000 feet or 5,000. If I exceed a certain speed and dive angle, boom, tuck under and fatal dive. I lose no surfaces; the 262's airframe must be able to handle at least 700 MPH before that happens. I've hit the 670s in fatal dives. 

 

 

Pulling up before crashing isn't the difficulty with the 262; the controls are fine. It's getting enough speed in the dive without tucking under. I'm sure someone will find a way around this problem, but not me.

 

The converted speed is: 981.6998 kph

 

I keep my speed settings in imperial because KPH figures mean nothing to me. I need to know precisely when I'm exceeding, for instance, 540 MPH. Bad things tend to happen then.

[Cavalier]

Recorded 920 km/h in the P47D22. 200L of fuel, 4guns, dove from 10km. Only damage was the left aileron. 

 

[[DBS]Browning]

@Cavalier@oc2209@Stoopy@Monksilver@BlitzPig_EL Congratulations! All records added.

@MonksilverCould you tell me your starting altitude for the Ju-52 please?

Edited February 26, 2021 by [DBS]Browning

[[DBS]Browning]

@Monksilver 833kmh to beat in the H6 now. ?

 

Edited February 26, 2021 by [DBS]Browning

[Monksilver]

2 hours ago, [DBS]Browning said:

 

@MonksilverCould you tell me your starting altitude for the Ju-52 please?

 

I think it was 5500, I always make sure I stay 1000 or more below ceiling level and then see if I can first maintain and then gain height, if not then restart lower down but happy to do it again.

 

my last go last night was in the Bf110-G2 -789kph

 

Good score on the He111-H6, will take some beating but I'll see what I can do ?. I note the bullet holes in the wings you crafty devil.

I think we can both improve on my speed for the He111-H16. 

 

 

[ROCKET_KNUT]

@[DBS]Browning Thank you very much for this excellent idea, love it! And I salute all those who participated already. Nice work!

 

Clearly I´ve had to have a go myself. But since my re-entrance procedure yesterday was less than brilliant I tried again today ?.

Somehow bits of the onboard communication between Rocket (incompetent pilot) and Vassili (useless navigator) have been recorded and pictures were taken so you all can experience what it means being in an a/c "piloted" by a complete nutter.

 

Ok, here goes nothing... ?

 

Rocket: Taking off!

Vassili: Give me strength...

 

Vassili: Why are we up here, freezing off our balls, again???

Rocket: Trololololoololloloollololloloooolollololoololollolool

Vassili: STOP IT!!!

Rocket: We just passed our service ceiling, so cheer up will you!

 

Rocket: Pretty sure, we´ll get her up to 11k.

Vassili: You joking!

Rocket: No man, seriously, she can do it...

 

Rocket: Except... ahem... uh... oh... Well... Shittt!

Vassili: WHAT?!

Rocket: Nothing...

 

Vassili: Why do those spinny thingies don´t spin anymore??? Did you really just loose both engines at 10k plus, you stupid clownshoe???

Rocket: No comment...

 

Vassili: How far is home?

Rocket: Just above 100km.

Vassili: censored

 

 

A strange story, or so you´d think. Honestly, I couldn´t make this up if I tried. How I did run out in a record attempt? No idea. ?

How did I manage to get home in a two engined glider over a distance of 100 kilometers? Magic... ?

How I wasn´t killed by my crew when we got back? That´s a different story.

 

So please accept this entry for an altitude record in an A-20. And the longest glide in a bomber. ?

 

Thank you all for reading, hope you´ve been entertained. See you soon!

 

Edited February 26, 2021 by ROCKET_KNUT

[[DBS]Browning]

Thankyou! Record added at 10679

[PatrickAWlson]

This thread reminds me of a story my father told me.  The unit was transitioning from F86s to F100s.  One of the pilots did just this with an 86 to try to break the sound barrier.  Came down in similar condition - rivets popped, skin crinkled, but he landed it.

[Halon]

Yak9-T Ser.1 - Managed to achieve 783kph without the loss of any control surfaces and landed safely at a nearby airfield. Had a few much faster attempts but my better one flipped on landing so not sure the pilot survived that! Video available on request.

 

Spoiler

 

Spoiler

 

 

[CUJO_1970]

 

FW190A8 Altitude 10,126m / 33,213 ft

[CUJO_1970]

 

Guess I'll stick with 889 (551mph) for the A8...probably hit 891 but didn't get a screen of it...ailerons are programmed to come off at ~890 it looks like. This record probably wont stand.

 

Got it up to 914 but the rudder always comes off by this speed so its not landable.

 

 

[CUJO_1970]

 

109G-6 Altitude 11,465m (37,605ft).

[[DBS]Browning]

37,600ft! Very impressive.

[Stoopy]

Blistering speed and open-cockpit Derring-Do were the order of the day as our brave test pilot achieved the unheard-of speed of 309 Kph in the Halberstadt CL.II (200 h.p.).

 

Thanks in no small measure to tremendous skill and agility at the controls, the pilot, gunner and airship itself landed safe and sound on an actual runway to take to the skies another day.  Newsreel footage available upon request.

 

Spoiler

 

?

 

Edited February 27, 2021 by Stoopy

[Stoopy]

Not ones to rest on their laurels, our dedicated air crew were back to the skies again in their amazing ship, this time to set a new altitude record of a dizzying 4,704 meters in the Halberstadt CL.II (200 h.p.) after spawning from 3,500 feet

 

Following a brief rest upon their safe return to earth, they are now doubtless making plans on their next aerial conquests in the name of science!

 

Spoiler

 

 

Edited February 27, 2021 by Stoopy