AndyJWest Posted November 29, 2019 Posted November 29, 2019 Real cockpits have a beer bottle tucked away in a corner, half-filled with a yellowish fluid. Do not under any circumstances assume that it is beer... 3
SOLIDKREATE Posted December 1, 2019 Posted December 1, 2019 I saw Century Link Field, just 35min south of me. GO HAWKS!!!
CanadaOne Posted December 3, 2019 Posted December 3, 2019 In the end, if I could fly over places I know and would like to know, in FS2020, with the graphics we've seen, dropping $15 a month ain't no thang.
Algy-Lacey Posted January 1, 2020 Posted January 1, 2020 I just watched this clip and at several points I couldn't tell if it were real or simulation. That's magical. I want this in VR.
Cynic_Al Posted January 1, 2020 Posted January 1, 2020 1 hour ago, Algy-Lacey said: I just watched this clip and at several points I couldn't tell if it were real or simulation. Oh what a time to be alive! Try flying it really low over any British beach; if it's not covered in discarded plastic bags and other rubbish, then rest assured you're definitely not flying a real plane. 2
SYN_Mike77 Posted January 1, 2020 Posted January 1, 2020 Only 20,000 blu-ray disk to ship as a physical copy. Count me in! 1
CanadaOne Posted January 1, 2020 Posted January 1, 2020 I hope this thing uses multiple CPU cores and doesn't just need one running at 8GHz. For this, I'd splurge on a 3700X. 1
Lusekofte Posted January 1, 2020 Posted January 1, 2020 I hear they talk about subscription price every month. Anyone able to confirm that? 1 1
CanadaOne Posted January 1, 2020 Posted January 1, 2020 4 hours ago, No.322_LuseKofte said: I hear they talk about subscription price every month. Anyone able to confirm that? I've heard that, but not sure. I wonder if you have to pay for it initially and then pay each month? Like $100 for the sim and then $15 as month for server access.
OrLoK Posted January 2, 2020 Posted January 2, 2020 i also "heard" that its not vr supported either. both a sub model and no vr are a bit of a turn off, for me. id love to get hard info from those of you on the know! 1
LLv34_Flanker Posted January 3, 2020 Posted January 3, 2020 S! The latest video Let it snow was impressive.
BornToBattle Posted January 11, 2020 Posted January 11, 2020 Are you speaking of FS2020? If so I think this will get kicked over to the Free Subject forum as there is already much posted on the matter.
ShamrockOneFive Posted January 11, 2020 Posted January 11, 2020 It's very likely going to be a very impressive civil aviation sim. 1 2
Feathered_IV Posted January 11, 2020 Posted January 11, 2020 I wouldn’t expect a lot of work to go into physics in a civil sim. The streaming nature of the title will probably restrict the options for the third party addon industry too.
LLv34_Flanker Posted January 11, 2020 Posted January 11, 2020 S! By looking at the dev updates it has physics and not just a basic one. Weather effect and clouds look amazing. Overall it looks very good. Sure it is a civvie sim, but hey, you can always go out being a bushpilot or other things. Sometimes sight seeing in a scenery can be relaxing and fun. Definitely following how it develops. 1 1
6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann Posted January 11, 2020 Posted January 11, 2020 Imma put it like this: I have stopped buying and planning any Payware for XP11 the very Second the MSFS2020 Announcement came.
CanadaOne Posted January 11, 2020 Posted January 11, 2020 28 minutes ago, 6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann said: Imma put it like this: I have stopped buying and planning any Payware for XP11 the very Second the MSFS2020 Announcement came. Yeah, I have a hard time thinking anyone is dropping any cash, much less hundreds of dollars, into FSX or X-plane add-ons right now. The "base package" for the ORBX global products, plus the cost of Prepar3d V4, will set you back about $250 to $350US. That's not chump change. That's for stuff that could well be obsolete, so to speak, in a few months. 2 2
Bremspropeller Posted January 12, 2020 Posted January 12, 2020 10 hours ago, 6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann said: Imma put it like this: I have stopped buying and planning any Payware for XP11 the very Second the MSFS2020 Announcement came. Dito. We'll see how it turns out. The screenies of 2020 look nice. The elephant in the room is whether it will look all that nice on a less than hot-shot rig. We'll also see, how well the default airplanes are made. Usually systems-depth leaves a lot to be desired in the default airplanes - to appease the beginners that just want to poke holes into the air... 1
BornToBattle Posted January 12, 2020 Posted January 12, 2020 (edited) 20 hours ago, 6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann said: Imma put it like this: I have stopped buying and planning any Payware for XP11 the very Second the MSFS2020 Announcement came. Double ditto! And so glad we are getting fiber optic here this year to boot. Edited January 12, 2020 by BornToBattle
jarg1 Posted January 12, 2020 Posted January 12, 2020 I'm sure I'll pick up a copy but probably won't fly until they get VR sorted out.
CUJO_1970 Posted January 12, 2020 Posted January 12, 2020 (edited) If it's as good as it looks, every computer related purchase I make (or don't make) will center around that simulation. Edited January 12, 2020 by CUJO_1970
Jaws2002 Posted January 13, 2020 Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) 55 minutes ago, CUJO_1970 said: If it's as good as it looks, every computer related purchase I make (or don't make) will center around that simulation. Yep. Same here. Looks like the game will have a more advanced engine and will require more modern PC. This thing will require solid multi threading performance and lots of memory, both stand alone and video memory. Here's a little video with some general idea about hardware requirements: Edited January 13, 2020 by Jaws2002 2
kestrel79 Posted January 13, 2020 Posted January 13, 2020 I’m excited for it. We’ll finally be able to fly over our smaller hometowns and have good scenery without payware or downloads. Looking forward to Wisconsin looking like Wisconsin in a flight sim and not rural Iowa.
CanadaOne Posted January 13, 2020 Posted January 13, 2020 16GB RAM on the video card? Yeah, that's not gonna happen. Mind you, I have zero intention of using 4K.
Jaws2002 Posted January 13, 2020 Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, CanadaOne said: 16GB RAM on the video card? Yeah, that's not gonna happen. Mind you, I have zero intention of using 4K. Yeah. you are right. Looks like this is just a fan video nothing official, as i thought initially, so take it with a bucket of salt. I do expect it to need eight or more cores. The next Xbox comes with eight cores/sixteen threads, AMD cpu. Edited January 13, 2020 by Jaws2002
CanadaOne Posted January 13, 2020 Posted January 13, 2020 11 minutes ago, Jaws2002 said: Yeah. you are right. Looks like this is just a fan video nothing official, as i thought initially, so take it with a bucket of salt. I do expect it to need eight or more cores. The next Xbox comes with eight cores/sixteen threads, AMD cpu. To fly over Canada at that level of eye candy, I'd splurge on a 3700X. But the 8GB I have the on video card now better suffice.
Eisenfaustus Posted January 13, 2020 Posted January 13, 2020 FS2020 will be released for xbox one - so when your pc can handle xbox games now - why shouldn't it FS2020?
DetCord12B Posted January 13, 2020 Posted January 13, 2020 If you're part of the insider plan then you know what to expect with regards to system demands and requirements via the IPD demo. Let me just say that they're hefty, but not nearly as hefty as any website would lead you to believe. Is it the most visually stunning FS I've ever seen? Yes. Does it decimate XP and P3D with regards to realism, physics, and visuals. Yes. Does it require a Cray Computer to run? No. Not in the least. However, it does require an almost unlimited bandwidth given how it streams the terrain, iso, and mesh components. Now, this might have seemed like a good idea on paper, but in practice today, at least in the realm of ISP's that purposely depreciate (slow/halt) bandwidth for the sole purpose of enticing people to buy more, this is a major obstacle. More so now in the US with the demise of Net-Neutrality. There is an offline mode but it simply isn't worth it given the game renders. So, beefy supercomputer not so much an issue. Fios more so. 3
CanadaOne Posted January 13, 2020 Posted January 13, 2020 They must upped my bandwidth from 40 to 60mps for free. That'll help, and free is good. Anyone know why they advertise it as 60mps when you really only get 6mps? They always show it ten times higher than you get.
SeaW0lf Posted January 13, 2020 Posted January 13, 2020 From what I recall, the press demo was made with i7-8700Ks according to one of the vbloggers. Then I think you could have a nice experience with the i5-9600K, a somewhat cheap CPU. I was considering an upgrade to the i7, but I'll wait for the release. From a Q&A with the developers, the engine is a revamp of the MFS 2006, then I don't expect it to be fully multithreaded (I hope to be wrong). I think we will continue to be Intel / higher clock dependant. I've been following the videos and updates, and physics seems to be one of the highlights. They have partnerships with manufactures* to create the best possible flight model for each standard plane it seems. The test pilot of CubCrafters went over the flight model of the Xcube for example. *so far: Airbus, Boeing, CubCrafters, Daher, Diamond Aircraft Industries, ICON Aircraft, Robin Aircraft, Textron Aviation. And they are also paying extra care on the cockpits, with fully operational functions. They said that they are not doing MFS2020 for the layman, but for the world wide flight simulator community. As it was mentioned, I think bandwidth will be more important. If Starlink delivers in the next five years or so as advertised, we are in for a treat regarding multiplayer until the end of the decade. I just hope they fix the glaring issue.
ZachariasX Posted January 13, 2020 Posted January 13, 2020 That's a way to look down on your sim world: (from here: https://flyawaysimulation.com/news/4953/ ) 1
unlikely_spider Posted January 13, 2020 Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) 38 minutes ago, CanadaOne said: They must upped my bandwidth from 40 to 60mps for free. That'll help, and free is good. Anyone know why they advertise it as 60mps when you really only get 6mps? They always show it ten times higher than you get. It should be 8x. It's the difference between MBps and Mbps (bytes vs bits, respectively). They want to advertise the larger number, of course. I think you can change what it shows you in Steam, but if you use a site like speedtest.net or fast.com, it will show you Mbps. Edited January 13, 2020 by unlikely_spider 1
1PL-Husar-1Esk Posted January 13, 2020 Posted January 13, 2020 Guess my local fiber 300Mb/s (19 euro per month) would be enough ?
Guest deleted@50488 Posted January 13, 2020 Posted January 13, 2020 One of the most awaited features is the new FDM built from scratch, pretty much à la IL-2 GB / XP stylle - meaning it'll be based in finite element analysis. The FDM visualization looks a lot like whet one get's when enabling the visual flight model mode in X-Plane 11. The biggest problem with X-Plane is that is was never a pollished product. The team keeps updating stuff in a rather "erratic" way, and while Austin Meyer has recently started investing again on the flight dynamics, truth is I believe the huge team and budget at the MS / ASOBO headquerters will most probably bring to release a much more fine tuned flight dynamics model. Add to it an also completely built from sratch weather engine, and there aren't reasons to believe MFS will become a true success. I've seen images of airfields around where I live and work, and fly from that are 250% better than any freeware / payware add-ons I ever used for either FSX / P3D or X-Plane.
CanadaOne Posted January 13, 2020 Posted January 13, 2020 1 hour ago, unlikely_spider said: It should be 8x. It's the difference between MBps and Mbps (bytes vs bits, respectively). They want to advertise the larger number, of course. I think you can change what it shows you in Steam, but if you use a site like speedtest.net or fast.com, it will show you Mbps. I got 53 to 59MBps on the test depending on the server, but I've never hit more than 7MBps on a download, and that was on Steam.
unlikely_spider Posted January 13, 2020 Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) 24 minutes ago, CanadaOne said: I got 53 to 59MBps on the test depending on the server, but I've never hit more than 7MBps on a download, and that was on Steam. If you mean 53 to 59 Mbps then that makes perfect sense, since 7 MBps = 56 Mbps. I'm not certain but I think that Steam defaults to MBps. Multiply by 8 and you get your download speeds according to your service provider. I've never had an issue maxing out my connection download speeds on Steam, but I'm in the Washington DC area. Edited January 13, 2020 by unlikely_spider 1
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