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Attempting to edit the mission files in notepad to switch them to summer/autumn was the very first thing I did after downloading 1.104   Unfortunately I could not make it work, although it may very well be possible.

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Attempting to edit the mission files in notepad to switch them to summer/autumn was the very first thing I did after downloading 1.104   Unfortunately I could not make it work, although it may very well be possible.

Load your mission to mission editor and change terrain (landscape)  to "stalingrad_summer". That works for me until release of new version PWCG.

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Attempting to edit the mission files in notepad to switch them to summer/autumn was the very first thing I did after downloading 1.104   Unfortunately I could not make it work, although it may very well be possible.

 

 

Load your mission to mission editor and change terrain (landscape)  to "stalingrad_summer". That works for me until release of new version PWCG.

 

Make sure you choose the weather preset too. The weather preset settings were blank for the PWCG mission I edited, but I could verify that there is a very strong difference in the lighting used for summer/autumn; it's not only sun position, the shading changes quite dramatically too.

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I think I installed properly & followed all the initial instructions & i did find the new mission in "Missions" but when the red line install bar finished the game froze there.I reloaded the game again & all the other previously installed worked but even re-doing the PWCG campaign/mission the game  froze again.Oh when the new mission was described in game it said something like "Escort Mission to ?????".Should I have fooled around with the waypoints?

This looks like such a great mod & I really want it to work -does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks! ;)

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I think I installed properly & followed all the initial instructions & i did find the new mission in "Missions" but when the red line install bar finished the game froze there.I reloaded the game again & all the other previously installed worked but even re-doing the PWCG campaign/mission the game  froze again.Oh when the new mission was described in game it said something like "Escort Mission to ?????".Should I have fooled around with the waypoints?

This looks like such a great mod & I really want it to work -does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks! ;)

I don`t know what is causing the freezing but try to scrub the mission in PWCG and make a new one.

 

The ????? thing in mission briefing is caused cyrillic translation into ASCII. It is a known bug. 

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I don`t know what is causing the freezing but try to scrub the mission in PWCG and make a new one.

 

The ????? thing in mission briefing is caused cyrillic translation into ASCII. It is a known bug. 

Ok I took them out of my missions folder( they had only two" entries" each,instead of the others in the folder that had seven "entries" each ,I think...) which I assume has deleted them in game. Should I try again or wait til the finished version to be released? BTW I might add I have two installs for the sim one the original download & the Steam version.I have installed it in the non-Steam version-does this make any difference?

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Ok I took them out of my missions folder( they had only two" entries" each,instead of the others in the folder that had seven "entries" each ,I think...) which I assume has deleted them in game. Should I try again or wait til the finished version to be released? BTW I might add I have two installs for the sim one the original download & the Steam version.I have installed it in the non-Steam version-does this make any difference?

Try again with a new mission. I have had few missions that stuck at loading. Creating new mission fixed that. I don`t think there`s any difference between steam and non-Steam version.

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Try again with a new mission. I have had few missions that stuck at loading. Creating new mission fixed that. I don`t think there`s any difference between steam and non-Steam version.

IT WORKS!  It seems to have a very long load time ( minutes - I have to walk away from my PC for several minutes..)however.Is anyone else experiencing this?I do have all buttons pressed to max.

I have a newbies questions;

1.) Are Summer & Fall maps available yet- I have tried various dates on Map selection but all I seem to get is Winter.

2.) What happens if I successfully complete a mission ( I haven't yet....) will I see my stats somewhere? Will I be slated for another new mission when I go back to that particular campaign?

3.) I see I can transfer...does this mean my aircraft will cjhange ?so far in Luftwaffe career I've only had the 190.Will I be able to fly the Ju-87 if I pick another campaign dealing with ground support or something like it?

I can see real potential in this utility,even with my small issues in picking up its use. I like it! ;)

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IT WORKS!  It seems to have a very long load time ( minutes - I have to walk away from my PC for several minutes..)however.Is anyone else experiencing this?I do have all buttons pressed to max.

I have a newbies questions;

1.) Are Summer & Fall maps available yet- I have tried various dates on Map selection but all I seem to get is Winter.

2.) What happens if I successfully complete a mission ( I haven't yet....) will I see my stats somewhere? Will I be slated for another new mission when I go back to that particular campaign?

3.) I see I can transfer...does this mean my aircraft will cjhange ?so far in Luftwaffe career I've only had the 190.Will I be able to fly the Ju-87 if I pick another campaign dealing with ground support or something like it?

I can see real potential in this utility,even with my small issues in picking up its use. I like it! ;)

Load times depend on how high activity level you choose from simple config. But I don`t think it should take several minutes. Medium settings are fine IMO.

 

1.) No summer maps yet but they are coming.

2.) When you finish your mission go back to the PWCG and click on combat report. It will show you the results of the mission. Please take a look at the readme file :)

3.) If you transfer your next aircraft depends of the squadron what you choose.

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IT WORKS!  It seems to have a very long load time ( minutes - I have to walk away from my PC for several minutes..)however.Is anyone else experiencing this?I do have all buttons pressed to max.

I have a newbies questions;

1.) Are Summer & Fall maps available yet- I have tried various dates on Map selection but all I seem to get is Winter.

2.) What happens if I successfully complete a mission ( I haven't yet....) will I see my stats somewhere? Will I be slated for another new mission when I go back to that particular campaign?

3.) I see I can transfer...does this mean my aircraft will cjhange ?so far in Luftwaffe career I've only had the 190.Will I be able to fly the Ju-87 if I pick another campaign dealing with ground support or something like it?

I can see real potential in this utility,even with my small issues in picking up its use. I like it! ;)

I might have that problem as well, although I've waited up to 7-8 minutes and just give up. It gets stuck at the loading spinning circle widget and just goes on ,and on, and on....

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At the tail end of the mission load it takes a long time.  It looks 99% complete and then it sits for awhile.  No idea what components are being loaded at the end of the sequence.  However, my six year old box with a generic and old HD can usually load a mission in about 2-3 minutes.

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At the tail end of the mission load it takes a long time.  It looks 99% complete and then it sits for awhile.  No idea what components are being loaded at the end of the sequence.  However, my six year old box with a generic and old HD can usually load a mission in about 2-3 minutes.

 

Yeah mines taking way longer than that - it doesn't even go to the loading screen - it stays on the mission select screen. I press start, and the mouse pointer turns to the loading icon and nothing happens.

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Yeah mines taking way longer than that - it doesn't even go to the loading screen - it

stays on the mission select screen. I press start, and the mouse pointer turns to the loading icon and nothing happens.

This has happened to me. It has said something like loading briefing and it never continues. Never goes to the actual loading screen.

 

New mission is the only way to fix this.

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New mission? What do you mean?

 

Ive scrubbed and tried to load several different missions - its the same result everytime.

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New mission? What do you mean?

 

Ive scrubbed and tried to load several different missions - its the same result everytime.

 

RoF and BoS both have a weird caching system based on the file name.  If you load a mission named xxx in BoS, if you generate another mission (text mission file only) called xxx it will load the old one.  The only way to get it to load the new one is to use the ME to create a binary version (msbin).  Short version - you might be loading the same mission over and over, even though you have overwritten the mission file.

 

Suggestion: try to open the mission in the ME.  If that succeeds, save the mission from the ME to generate an msbin file.

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I don't know if it was mentioned yet. I found a bug were the game no longer uses the pilot name chosen in PWCG but the account name of the IL-2 account. I just noticed it and will test tomorrow if It has an effect on things like Combat report / kill crediting

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ok. i tested it today. I'm now flying (persistent over multiple missions) as my own wing man. scoring kills works regardless of the assigned name

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Beta 3 is up:

 

Added summer and autumn Stalingrad
Fixed weapons mod mask not being set
Set mission start to runway by default
Added climb WPs to allow flights to get to mission altitude
Generated English alphabet place names (eliminates ???? in mission brief)
Added PWCGBoS.exe for easier program launch
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First I want to thank Pat for making this for our enjoyment and yes Jason thank you too for the support your giving Pat. I cant wait to get home and install this. If this is anything like the one for ROF then I'm in for a real treat. Finally I want to thank all of the other pilots who are trying this and giving this thread feedback and observations about the PWCG. This will all help Pat to make this CG program a must have for BOS and BOM. Again thanks so much Salute!

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Seem to be getting some CTDs with Beta 3 (two so far out of two missions).  Looks like it's occurring when enemy aircraft or ground objects are created when they enter my "bubble".  Had a mission to Patrol in my La-5, took off and flew to the patrol area.  I was using the "External Enemy Aircraft View" when I saw some Stukas.   I was on Autopilot, and my flight lead starts to engage when I get the CTD.  My settings were stock except for Medium Air Activity.  

 

Second time I was flying an Il-2 to attack troops.  Air-Start this time.  Get near the Action Area and CTD.  Had Wing-leveler on, but no Auto-pilot.  I was the Lead on this flight.  Settings were Low Air Activity and Medium Ground Activity.

 

Not sure if the crash report would do you any good...IS there a crash report with BOS?  Anyway, thought you should know.  Let me know if I can be of any further assistance.  Keep up the awesome work!

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Took version 3 for a spin - created a new campaign starting 1 August 1942 flying Bf-109F4s ('cause I have custom skins for my fictional squadron for that plane type and wanted to see if the skin assignment routine was working yet).

 

I noticed that I got the pop-up message when accepting the mission that mission logs were not turned on and telling me to change the setting to 1, BUT actually it was already set to 1, so I'm thinking the log setting check routine still isn't quite working.

 

In my first attempt (flying #2 in a flight of 2 tasked with a patrol/offensive mission), as soon as I hit the unpause button my plane went careening at high speed off the runway into the fringe, before I had a chance to press autopilot or anything else.  Needless to say, with the new ground physics that mission ended early and not well.

 

I hit the restart mission button and tried again - this time I was able to hit the autopilot key before anything happened, and watched for a while as my plane climbed out trailing the leader.  The autopilot kept station fairly well (although there was a lot of throttling up and down almost to zero fairly often), so I took over and flew in formation for a while as we approached our assigned patrol area.

 

My flight leader had the custom skin I had assigned to him in the PWCG screen, but my plane did not (I went into the plane setup screen in the game before starting the mission to check my loadout, so maybe that screwed things up - I noticed on that screen that I wasn't using my custom skin, so maybe going into that screen reset it to the default skin somehow).

 

We spotted and were attacked by a swarm of enemy fighters (must have been at least 6).  I promptly managed to put my Friedrich into a spin trying to avoid their head on passes, and was shredded by a couple of them before I could recover from the spin, so that mission ended with a nice crater in the summer map.

 

At least I didn't get any CTDs, and the campaign creation and other screens within PWCG seemed to work fine.  The after action report back in PWCG duly reported my death in action, and showed my campaign with an RIP icon.  I did notice that when I clicked on the campaign (trying to get back to the combat report to see what type plane got me) it gave me an error message that mentioned posting on the RoF forums:

 

BoS%20-%20PWCG%20bug%20report%20%2010.jp

 

Also noticed that the "????" stuff on the mission briefing/description was indeed gone - the place name (in English) was not capitalized, but it was readable.

 

Out of time for missions tonight, but I'll try to do some more testing later this week.

 

Thanks for making such quick progress on getting the new map and other tweaks incorporated!

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That's okay, its something I'd happily like to do anyway. 

The colour blindness thing is a bit of a bore.  I can never be trusted to buy a shirt on my own...

I thought something with similar menus to BoS would be nice if possible.  That way it keeps you in the same headspace when moving between missions.

 

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Hi Feathered, any progress about this project?   :)

 

 

And thanks Pat, great to have summer maps to PWCG so rapidly!

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Let me cut to the chase :I love this gizmo! I say that without completely figuring it out ( but I will get to that later.

For the first time ( & I bought this sim on the first day it was available I at last enjoyed its potential.For more than a year ( when I played it ) I put up with ( in Campaign mode)  little missions consisting of formations of 1-3 aircraft facing a predictable number of enemy aircraft in a predictable way over snowy landscape that ( to me) looked basically the same no matter what map you chose.( I am leaving out the 3rd party mission planners hard work to get missions more involving.I hope they do the same on the new seasonal maps...) I had to go back to the superb Desastersoft campaigns in CloD for massively complex missions that were always different & over the superb map that came initially with the sim for real fun.

Now thanks to the PWCG that has changed.I have flown one mission but what a revelation.The screen shots tell the story:

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Just look at that line up of Frederics & there were an equal number in the air! ditto Soviet fighters 7 a dogfight ensued that almost matched those that are typical on Clod over aSummer map that again to me is far more interesting than winter.

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Obviously I am sold.I shot down two planes & made it back for a bumpy landing on my field.It was the best mission I have ever flown in BoS!

BUT( now here's the part i need help on:) I have not found the right keystroke to get back to desktop while leaving the sim on,so i have to exit BoS to get back to view PWCG screen .When i do get there I am still on the map screen ( obviuosly I think,right?) Now what I think....I went back to the chaulk board where I am a major at the top of the board ,BUT I have been given no credit for my kills(...hmmm.,maybe I should not have exited Bos after all, but how to do that?)

 Now & by that I mean right now ,I have no idea what to do next.Going back another screen doesn't make much sense & going forward to the map only seems to give me the mission I just flew. I beat that mission & don't want to fly it again ( & again...)

  what if I want to fly another campaign ,say as a Stuka pilot on the Autumn map.I know how to choose the pilot ,but am shakey on how to choose another map?

  So can you help me out? This utility is a game changer (& I mean that literally ) for me.After I get over my issues ( see above) I will go straight to it for all of my BoS game play when it expands to the newaircraft 7 of course with boM coming on line.

Thank you sooooo much!

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have you ever used a Windows PC?...try Alt+Tab

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have you ever used a Windows PC?...try Alt+Tab

Yes, but in every other sim I can get away with hitting the Windows key & i have my desktop back.In any case thanks for the info that has eluded my slow moving brain:one problem solved! :o:

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Hi Feathered, any progress about this project?   :)

 

 

And thanks Pat, great to have summer maps to PWCG so rapidly!

Hmmm I haven't had this nifty looking screen come up when I havestarted the generator.How come I've missed it?

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Hmmm I haven't had this nifty looking screen come up when I havestarted the generator.How come I've missed it?

Because it's not (yet) in PWCG. It's just Feathered showing what it could look like.

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Hi Patrick! Thank you for work on PWCG. Looks like a bug in beta3, Combat report and Lone Wolf Mission buttons is not active, career not advance.

P.S. I have russian, not steam client, if it helps.

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Hi Patrick! Thank you for work on PWCG. Looks like a bug in beta3, Combat report and

Lone Wolf Mission buttons is not active, career not advance.

P.S. I have russian, not steam client, if it

helps.

Hi! Lonewolf mission has been dark all the way from beginning but combat report should be available after you fly a mission.

 

By the way,if you had earlier version of Warhamm`s IL-2 Career Generator installed then the Startup.cfg contains an additional line that places the mission log files in the folder "Log\ILCG".  This will prevent PWCG from finding the mission log files and the Mission Report function will be grayed out. So delete that line from Startup.cfg.

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Because it's not (yet) in PWCG. It's just Feathered showing what it could look like.

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"what if I want to fly another campaign ,say as a Stuka pilot on the Autumn map.I know how to choose the pilot ,but am shakey on how to choose another map?"

 

PWCG chooses the map based on date.  April-August is summer.  Sept and October is Autumn,  Nov - March is winter (this is Russia after all).


Lone Wolf mission is only active after you become a well known ace.  Should probably remove it because it is a WWI holdover.  By WWII NOBODY flew lone wolf missions.

 

Combat Report becomes available after you fly a mission.  Logs have to be turned on and available.  PWCG enables this button based on the presence of log files.

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Pat, one question. Since many of us have BoM. Do you plane to include the available BoM planes in an upcoming update?

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Hmmm...another CTD for me.  This time after I'd been engaged by fighters and had knocked out some Arty.  Don't know.  Gonna fiddle with some settings.

 

Also, I noticed that my Air Starts have me starting right above my airfield flying north....a long way from the ingress point.  Did I mess up a config setting somewhere?

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Combat Report becomes available after you fly a mission.  Logs have to be turned on and available.  PWCG enables this button based on the presence of log files.

I've got everything except how to do this Combar report.My choice after mission is over doesn't seem to work ( do I have to leave the mission open in game- I've been closing it to go back to the PWCG,) & the start mission or create mission gives me the same day over & over even after completing the mission successfully.I suppose I could be flying the same day on another mission, but after bailing out on the last mission it looked as if I had a long walk back. :dry:

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Something to remember for those who have not used PWCG before.  PWCG is an independent program.  It has no idea what happens in BoS and Bos has no idea what happens in PWCG.  To BoS a PWCG mission looks like any other mission created by the ME.  PWCG understands what happened in the game only through the log files.

 

With that in mind ...

 

You have to do the combat report to advance time.  PWCG doesn't know what happened in BoS until the mission logs are read during the combat report sequence.  When a combat report is entered PWCG records the events of the mission, simulates other events, generates historical events and advances time.  The combat report is the trigger for all of that.

 

Here's how it works:

You generate a mission in PWCG.

PWCG writes a mission to the BoS mission file

You fly the mission with logs enabled.

BoS writes logs to the BoS (not PWCG) data directory

Back in PWCG the program sees the logs (you might have to exit and reenter your campaign menu to get PWCG to look for log files) and enables the combat report button.

You press combat report

You tell PWCG how many victories you have scored in the drop down

You tell PWCG the type for each victory.

PWCG parses the logs and compares the results against your claims

Claims are confirmed or denied.

Other things are determined (simulated victories ans losses, medals, promotions, historical events)

When you are done the date advances.

 

Hope that helps

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Flew 5 Missions with Beta5. In Mission 5 my squadron attacked some russian fighters, we were in the middle of the start-climb-phase. After that my AI comrades circled. (I know this is a problem with ROF, too) I flew to the mission destination and when I headed home, they still circled BUT had made some distance. They actually advanced flying circles. o.O

I think the height-climb-WPs make formation flying easier. I flew not really well, but could close distance to the squadron and they flew in formation. Well done! The wing leader ist still ahead, but that happens also when I fly wing leader so I guess the game has problems there.

 

Other than that everything worked fine.

 

btw Patrick, could you explain this to me?

"Flight Generation Odds and Flight Generations Odds Modifier.

 

If I set Flight Generation Odds to 100 Squadrons will definitely generate a flight. So on the other hand there is the Modifier which is Downward Modifier...for quiet times.

 

Do I get this right?:

With 100% Odds there will be a squadron created, but the dowmard modifier prevents that for 20% of the time? Why don't I simply put the Odds at 80% and have the same result? Does anybody know more? I think these options are there for a specific purpose, I just don't know how it works."

 

@tn_prvteye

Interesting. I get these CTDs with the "normal" campaign mode, the campaign that the game istelf creates. Missions are rock solid fpr me.

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Nov - March is winter (this is Russia after all).

know the exact date when the snow fell at Stalingrad in 1942. November 13.

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