Avimimus Posted January 21, 2021 Posted January 21, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, ShamrockOneFive said: Having studied the development and history of the Spitfire for many years, I'm not aware of any Spitfire XIV's that were ever fitted with four 20mm. They had a mix of the standard C and E armament configurations. They certainly could have been equipped with four cannons as the C wing allows for it but it just wasn't done outside of those early production Mark Vc's. Yes. The big difference is that some Spit XIV flew for around a month without any machine guns in order to gain more speed for hunting V-1 (although they were also flying some sorties to counter the threat of fighter bombers). So, the plausible unique armament option is 2x20mm cannon. Edited January 21, 2021 by Avimimus 2
Algy-Lacey Posted January 21, 2021 Posted January 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Avimimus said: Yes. The big difference is that some Spit XIV flew for around a month without any machine guns in order to gain more speed for hunting V-1 (although they were also flying some sorties to counter the threat of fighter bombers). So, the plausible unique armament option is 2x20mm cannon. I think that Fighter Reconnaisance FR MkXIV's might have also had this armament (off the top of my head). I wonder how much weight was saved? I would have thought a couple of hundred kilos (4 x .303 Browings) which is almost the weight difference between a MkIXc and a MkXIVc.... to bring the conversation full circle (well, more of an oval) I hope we get 2 x 20mm as a loadout option, plus a functioning camera in the fuselage, Recon opens up another area for simulation.
Avimimus Posted January 21, 2021 Posted January 21, 2021 13 minutes ago, Algy-Lacey said: I think that Fighter Reconnaisance FR MkXIV's might have also had this armament (off the top of my head). I wonder how much weight was saved? I would have thought a couple of hundred kilos (4 x .303 Browings) which is almost the weight difference between a MkIXc and a MkXIVc.... to bring the conversation full circle (well, more of an oval) I hope we get 2 x 20mm as a loadout option, plus a functioning camera in the fuselage, Recon opens up another area for simulation. I think it is closer to 40kg of guns and 54kg of ammunition (if 300 rpg)... so more like 100 kg saved... but there might also be some slight drag reduction benefits from having the covers fully smoothed over (not sure if this amounts to much). Still... it would be an interesting way to fly a pure cannon Spitfire with exactly half the firepower of a Hawker fighter I agree it would be great if they someday got to a point where they could release photo-recon variants for a bunch of existing aircraft (along with photo-recon gameplay)! One could also use the 'alone unarmed and unafraid' observer/PRU tagline to sell it... make it seem dramatic and war winning in the write up (because, well, photorecon was dramatic and war winning) 1
HBPencil Posted January 22, 2021 Posted January 22, 2021 12 hours ago, Algy-Lacey said: I think that Fighter Reconnaisance FR MkXIV's might have also had this armament (off the top of my head). I wonder how much weight was saved? I would have thought a couple of hundred kilos (4 x .303 Browings) which is almost the weight difference between a MkIXc and a MkXIVc.... to bring the conversation full circle (well, more of an oval) I hope we get 2 x 20mm as a loadout option, plus a functioning camera in the fuselage, Recon opens up another area for simulation. Some weights for the guns are: 2x20mm Hispano MkII cannon = 297.5lb 20mm ammo (120rpg) = 150lb 2x.50cal machine gun = 162.5lb .50cal ammo (250rpg) = 150lb 4x.303 machine gun = 112.5lb .303 ammo (350rpg) = 93lb 1
Diggun Posted January 22, 2021 Posted January 22, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, beeps said: ...could it be?? An update? On a Friday? That would be so surprising my monacle would ping across the room... 13 hours ago, Avimimus said: One could also use the 'alone unarmed and unafraid' observer/PRU tagline to sell it... Plus PR Spitfires are the handsomist spitfires. Lovely clean lines and that beautiful single piece windshield. In fetching blue AND daring pink! Edited January 22, 2021 by Diggun 2 2
beepee Posted January 22, 2021 Posted January 22, 2021 1 minute ago, Diggun said: An update? On a Friday? That would be so surprising my monacle would ping across the room... Alas...It was just my connection dropping out 1
40plus Posted January 22, 2021 Posted January 22, 2021 Seriously....starting to get the shakes over here.... 3
IckyATLAS Posted January 22, 2021 Posted January 22, 2021 They deserve a good month of January as a holiday. We can accept one month of relax if and only if in February starts a hellish program with: A new update once every 15 days with at least 30 items, and if skipped the next deadline is one with 60 items. One plane or vehicle every month, if skipped then two items the next deadline One map every quarter One campaign at the end of the year. Thank you devs bringing our dreams to reality.?
No_Face Posted January 22, 2021 Posted January 22, 2021 3 hours ago, IckyATLAS said: They deserve a good month of January as a holiday. We can accept one month of relax if and only if in February starts a hellish program with: A new update once every 15 days with at least 30 items, and if skipped the next deadline is one with 60 items. One plane or vehicle every month, if skipped then two items the next deadline One map every quarter One campaign at the end of the year. Thank you devs bringing our dreams to reality.? Obviously your program scared the developers 1
Pikestance Posted January 23, 2021 Posted January 23, 2021 This months DD Visited grandmama, Heard cousin Vladimir got him =self into financial trouble again. I told Grandmama not to give him anymore money. You know he spends in the casino and lose women. When the arthritis is not acting up she loves flying the Il2. 2 2
BladeMeister Posted January 29, 2021 Posted January 29, 2021 (edited) Wacocamo, Walodomo, Wamoclo, Walomomo! What it ever it is that you hip youngsters chant, come on DD tomorrowolo! An announcement about TC2 would be nice. S!Blade<>< Edited January 29, 2021 by BladeMeister
40plus Posted January 29, 2021 Posted January 29, 2021 1 hour ago, BladeMeister said: An announcement about TC2 would be nice. El Alamein preferably ?? 1
-332FG-Gordon200 Posted January 29, 2021 Posted January 29, 2021 Did you see Jason's comment in Developer Diary 269 Discussion when someone said "It would be nice if we are given a little something tomorrow wouldn't it???" Maybe if you’re lucky. Jason
BladeMeister Posted January 29, 2021 Posted January 29, 2021 4 hours ago, QB.Gordon200 said: Did you see Jason's comment in Developer Diary 269 Discussion when someone said "It would be nice if we are given a little something tomorrow wouldn't it???" Maybe if you’re lucky. Jason I did not, but I feel Lucky! S!Blade<><
Diggun Posted January 29, 2021 Posted January 29, 2021 god, he's SUCH a tease... More flak vehicle pics? some sweeeeet xiv action?? A lil cheeky spad peek?? whaddya reckon?
6./ZG26_Klaus_Mann Posted January 29, 2021 Posted January 29, 2021 Definetly summin of the Fokker D.VIII maybe tweaks for Flight Models of the FC.I Planes, so hoping for overcompressed Engines. 1
sevenless Posted January 29, 2021 Posted January 29, 2021 1 hour ago, Diggun said: some sweeeeet xiv action?? Yep, yep, yep...
Blitzen Posted February 4, 2021 Posted February 4, 2021 I’m curious is there a general and realistic consensus about just what aircraft ( or now with AA trucks,vehicle,) will be included in the next update? I know each of us has a sort of wish list but what will probably show up next? I would think new versions of aircraft ( Spitfire,Focke Wolf, Ju-88 or Mustang..)we already have might be a best guess as they might not require as much modeling, but if we go by what we have actually seen it could be the Typhoon ( which is sorta kinda a “new” version of the Tempest now that I think about it...) as we have seen development images of it not that long ago , along with disappointing news that its introduction won’t be until Spring. Has Jason given us a clue that I’ve just missed? Of course the next update might an effects upgrade which would be alright but ....
Q_Walker Posted February 4, 2021 Posted February 4, 2021 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Blitzen said: I’m curious is there a general and realistic consensus about just what aircraft ( or now with AA trucks,vehicle,) will be included in the next update? I know each of us has a sort of wish list but what will probably show up next? I would think new versions of aircraft ( Spitfire,Focke Wolf, Ju-88 or Mustang..)we already have might be a best guess as they might not require as much modeling, but if we go by what we have actually seen it could be the Typhoon ( which is sorta kinda a “new” version of the Tempest now that I think about it...) as we have seen development images of it not that long ago , along with disappointing news that its introduction won’t be until Spring. Has Jason given us a clue that I’ve just missed? Of course the next update might an effects upgrade which would be alright but .... Last week's DD said the 190 A6 is planned to come with the next update. Edited February 4, 2021 by =AW=Q_Walker 1
AEthelraedUnraed Posted February 4, 2021 Posted February 4, 2021 10 minutes ago, Blitzen said: I’m curious is there a general and realistic consensus about just what aircraft ( or now with AA trucks,vehicle,) will be included in the next update? I know each of us has a sort of wish list but what will probably show up next? I would think new versions of aircraft ( Spitfire,Focke Wolf, Ju-88 or Mustang..)we already have might be a best guess as they might not require as much modeling, but if we go by what we have actually seen it could be the Typhoon ( which is sorta kinda a “new” version of the Tempest now that I think about it...) as we have seen development images of it not that long ago , along with disappointing news that its introduction won’t be until Spring. Has Jason given us a clue that I’ve just missed? Of course the next update might an effects upgrade which would be alright but .... Jason already gave some sort of a preliminary release order for the aircraft: It's roughly the following order: Fokker D.VIII - Spad 7 150hp - Spitfire Mk.XIV - Fw-190 A-6 - Nieuport 28.C1 - Spad 7 180hp - GAZ-MM 72-K - Sd. Kfz. 10 + Flak38 - Typhoon Mk.Ib - P-51B/C - Pfalz D.XII - Sopwith Triplane - Breguet 14.B2 - DFW C.V. - Airco DH.4 - Ju 88 C-6 - Handley Page 0-400 - Gotha G.V - B-26 (AI) - V-1 Cruise Missile - Ar-234 - Mosquito FB Mk.VI - Me-410
Bernard_IV Posted February 4, 2021 Posted February 4, 2021 I've been flying the Spitfire IX on the servers all week getting ready for the XIV. Man with a little more speed I'd be a killer.
busdriver Posted February 4, 2021 Posted February 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Bernard_IV said: I've been flying the Spitfire IX on the servers all week getting ready for the XIV. Man with a little more speed I'd be a killer. With a little more speed I'd simply be a much faster "high speed cheerleader" than I am now. Just ask @Requiem or @ShamrockOneFive 4
BlitzPig_EL Posted February 4, 2021 Posted February 4, 2021 2000bhp will transform the Spitfire from a delightful aerial dancer into a beast. I hail my new Spitfire overlord.
=621=Samikatz Posted February 4, 2021 Posted February 4, 2021 Been trying to find some information about operating the XIV because the hype is getting to me. Found this in the pilots notes, sounds like it could have automatic RPM speed control? Probably depends when the early/late divide is? 2
RedKestrel Posted February 4, 2021 Posted February 4, 2021 2 hours ago, Bernard_IV said: I've been flying the Spitfire IX on the servers all week getting ready for the XIV. Man with a little more speed I'd be a killer. I hope to be an even faster target drone! 8 minutes ago, =621=Samikatz said: Been trying to find some information about operating the XIV because the hype is getting to me. Found this in the pilots notes, sounds like it could have automatic RPM speed control? Probably depends when the early/late divide is? I suspect we will get an earlier version, given the time rate of mid-1944 for BoN.
ShamrockOneFive Posted February 4, 2021 Posted February 4, 2021 1 hour ago, busdriver said: With a little more speed I'd simply be a much faster "high speed cheerleader" than I am now. Just ask @Requiem or @ShamrockOneFive We'll all get into trouble that much faster ? 1 1
JG7_X-Man Posted February 5, 2021 Posted February 5, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, =621=Samikatz said: Been trying to find some information about operating the XIV because the hype is getting to me. Found this in the pilots notes, sounds like it could have automatic RPM speed control? Probably depends when the early/late divide is? Well duh! They have captured enough German fighters by the time the XIV was on the drawing table to reverse engineer that remarkable piece of engineering. Edited February 5, 2021 by JG7_X-Man 1
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