help choosing tracking hardware

[HeerRitter]

Hi all so I'm thinking of purchasing a tracking IR 5 set up but after at little looking there's all these other options and a ton of different ideas on the matter to a point I started to get a little confused. As you guys/girls have steered me right every time so far and are probably one of the best communities I've found in the gaming scene, and because the hardware is gonna be mostly for IL2 I was hoping for some guidance. I'd probably go with ease of use over cost, i know there's budget options but it's my experience you end up paying for those later on in other ways! I did see one on Amazon that looked exactly like Track IR5 but doesn't call it's self that.. It is called Head Tracking for Track NP 5DoF but it's about £30 cheaper than the official track ir5  https://www.amazon.co.uk/Tracking-Professional-Infrared-Controller-Simulator/dp/B08HRR1M39 

 

I am a complete noob with this hardware and don't want to be wasting money on something that's either not gonna work as well as I'd hoped or is gonna cause major headaches to set up.

 

I also read that screens like mine which are set way above eye level (on a wall bracket but still with a desk in front of it) this can cause issues, true/false?

 

If I'm posting in the wrong section i apologise or if there are posts on this already, i did do a search, but cold only find a how to guide for HatTrack.

 

 

Edited January 6, 2022 by HeerRitter

[Irishratticus72]

I've had a TrackIr for over ten years now, love it, it completely changed how I interact with my sims. The one you are looking at is virtually identical to my "official" set, so I'd say go for it, as for the level at which it will sit, yeah, I've had to lower my monitor a little to get good coverage. 

[ciderworm]

I bought the exact same item on Amazon for use on an updated setup I'm building.  In setup / use it is identical to my original TrackIR5 and uses the same software and in my situation, the same profile. It just doesn't come in fancy plastic packaging.

[cardboard_killer]

2 hours ago, HeerRitter said:

i know there's budget options

 

I have used OpenTrack and DELANCLiP's package for a couple of years now. However, my monitor sits at eye level, so YMMV.

3 hours ago, HeerRitter said:

If I'm posting in the wrong section

 

Should go into the Hardware and Software folder. Lots of information on head tracking there (and a bunch of VR subfolders, too)

[HeerRitter]

1 hour ago, cardboard_killer said:

Should go into the Hardware and Software folder. Lots of information on head tracking there (and a bunch of VR subfolders, too)

 

I had a quick look in hardware most of what i see was vr related but i just don't have the money to justify that with 3 teenagers, plus I'd read about motion sickness, i don't know if that's something that's been worked on with newer vr sets or if that's just something that's always gonna be down to the individual, I don't know, but as someone that gets dizzy on a merry go round I think I'll stick to throwing up after to many down the pub, it's cheaper ?

 

I looked at that DelanClip do you use the wireless or wired version? I think I could probably mount the camera below the screen i guess it doesn't matter to much were it's mounted as long as it's centred to were I'm sitting

 

I also looked at TrackHat but they've bought out a new camera rather than using the PlayStation one so there only taking pre orders with a delivery date of Feb-March with possible delays, not sure I want to wait that long

4 hours ago, Irishratticus72 said:

I've had a TrackIr for over ten years now, love it, it completely changed how I interact with my sims. The one you are looking at is virtually identical to my "official" set, so I'd say go for it, as for the level at which it will sit, yeah, I've had to lower my monitor a little to get good coverage. 

 

lowering my tv isn't rely an option but placing the camera under the screen could be, would that work?

3 hours ago, ciderworm said:

I bought the exact same item on Amazon for use on an updated setup I'm building.  In setup / use it is identical to my original TrackIR5 and uses the same software and in my situation, the same profile. It just doesn't come in fancy plastic packaging.

 

If that's all that's different the packaging and it's about £20 cheaper I'll go for it, you had any problems with light affecting it, it's just something i'd read about i wonderd if it really was an issue

Edited January 6, 2022 by HeerRitter

[cardboard_killer]

1 hour ago, HeerRitter said:

I looked at that DelanClip do you use the wireless or wired version?

 

I use the wired. I kind of wish I'd gotten the wireless, if it performs as well as the wired, but not that big of a deal. I actually started to make my own set, but gave up as I kept screwing up the soldering. #allthumbs.

[HeerRitter]

5 minutes ago, cardboard_killer said:

 

I use the wired. I kind of wish I'd gotten the wireless, if it performs as well as the wired, but not that big of a deal. I actually started to make my own set, but gave up as I kept screwing up the soldering. #allthumbs.

 

yeah soldering aint one of my skills either, i remember trying to fix an xbox controller analogue stick, i think i still have it somewhere lol  

 

 

I'm looking at the delanclip and it seems that the wireless comes with a plastic casing around it were the wired just seems to be a bare frame with the wires zip tied to it?

[cardboard_killer]

4 minutes ago, HeerRitter said:

I'm looking at the delanclip and it seems that the wireless comes with a plastic casing around it were the wired just seems to be a bare frame with the wires zip tied to it?

 

The wires are held by metal slots against the frame. I thought about wrapping the frame and wires in electric tape, but it decided against it as there seems little danger of the wires hanging up on anything. I use velcro to attach it to my headphones.

 

I find with most things wireless I end up attaching them all the time for charging purposes anyway.

[6./ZG26_Custard]

I found TrackIR  great but very expensive. Before going over to VR I started using the DelanClip  setup

 

 

 

 

Edit: At under £100 its a great set and the Wireless Fusion lasts around 7-8 hours before a recharge.

The solution for attaching to a headset for me was buying Velcro straps  and that worked quite nicely.

Edited January 6, 2022 by 6./ZG26_Custard

[HeerRitter]

1 minute ago, 6./ZG26_Custard said:

I found TrackIR  great but very expensive. Before going over to VR I started using the DelanClip  setup

 

 

So that's another vote for DelanClip, I have to say £69 wired or £98 wireless is a good price the track IR I've seen is £129 and I'd have to wear a cap while using it if that effects game while looking down I don't know but I would like to pull the plug on one or the other by the weekend

@cardboard_killer how did you find setting up the software, which one did you use?

[6./ZG26_Custard]

2 minutes ago, HeerRitter said:

I don't know but I would like to pull the plug on one or the other by the weekend

Wireless is a lot less hassle and it's fairly easy to attach to a headset. However, I also have used a wired DelanClip and that works just fine too. 

[HeerRitter]

14 minutes ago, 6./ZG26_Custard said:

Wireless is a lot less hassle and it's fairly easy to attach to a headset. However, I also have used a wired DelanClip and that works just fine too. 

 

OK but if you was to choose having used both, what would be your honest preference out of the two, wired vs wireless or is it really so little difference you wouldn't justify the additional nearly £30?

 

You know i was pointed towards TrackHat this morning https://www.trackhat.org/shop-cgnn they are basically (from what i can tell) the same as DelanClip but they have a new camera coming out rather than using the ps3 camera. Although a little more than DelanClip there TrackHat Clip https://www.trackhat.org/product-page/trackhat-clip looks nice and compact and only £35 it works with all other track IR products, maybe I'm wrong but I've seen the ps3 cameras on ebay for £11 the IR hat sensor from TrackHat is only £35 and most of the software is free if I'm not wrong? But i think i read somewhere that they modified the ps3 cameras to work with track IR, so a standard out the box ps3 camera wouldn't work properly with the Track software?

Edited January 6, 2022 by HeerRitter

[ciderworm]

Reflections can be a problem although for me it was more to do with wearing glasses especially when the virtual sun was shining! Adjustments in the TIR software settings mitigates this to a non-issue. 

 

I have used the Delanclip (wired) with the original TrackIR5 which worked well however I have found the reflector set included in the Amazon unit works fine & I have no plans to go to an alternative method. 

 

If you decide to go the Delan route I would say the quality of the Delanclip bodes well for their other gear.

 

I'm now trying to learn the VR Dark Arts which was the main purpose for assembling a second set up. 

[blitze]

Another DelanClip user with Open Track and the modded PS3 Camera.  It worked well and then I jumped into VR with Il2 - Only 3 degree axis tracking (still waiting on my package to be fulfilled) but still, the immersion.

 

Flying Moscow Strike mission last night no.2 in flight and we flew into a massive cloud bank - wow, disorientating is mildly describing how I felt. My eyes were between my flight leader and my Roll indicator in my 109E7.  Was happy when we emerged out of the clouds.?

[HeerRitter]

9 minutes ago, blitze said:

Another DelanClip user with Open Track and the modded PS3 Camera.

 

What is the software you use and how hard was it to set up?

 

And vr is something I'm in no hurry to try it really the cost as much as the potential motion sickness.. I watched a video on YouTube a review of sorts about the occulus rift and this guy was talking about how he found it difficult with not being able to see his desk to get drinks and how hard he found it getting the right controlls because he couldn't see his hands, then he mentioned he was still trying to play with Kb&M in VR lol I stopped watching at that point it's got to be hard enough getting use to the Vr without trying to fly Vr without a HOTAS

29 minutes ago, ciderworm said:

Reflections can be a problem although for me it was more to do with wearing glasses

 

I actually need glasses to watch tv my eyes have gotten worse i am an avid reader but i started noticing the words getting merged into each other went to the options and now i have to wear a pair for reading and a strong pair for tv and distance, it was then i realised just how bad my sight had gotten.

 

So I am leaning a little more towards the Delan as it is cheap at £65 specially as i was gonna drop £130-£150 this morning on a trackNP5 (which i now know is the Chinese knock off of the TrackIR5.. But i need to know a bit more about the software side, which one do you use and how hard is it to set up? Also the top of my Tv is quite far above my eye line i'm worried the angle down will affect the tracking

[BladeMeister]

I have used TIR since the first offering and each model since. I have given away all of my previous models, never had one stop working and currently using TIR5. IMHO, it is simple to set up. Then just download Requiem's profile and use that. It takes a while to get used to using it, but in the end it is well worth the money. This from a person who has never tried VR. I can't afford it and I don't want to mess with all the software and setup needed to run VR. So, for me TIR5 is perfect. My 2¢

 

S!Blade<><

[cardboard_killer]

1 hour ago, HeerRitter said:

how did you find setting up the software, which one did you use?

 

I just installed open track, made a few adjustments on the PS3 Eye, then downloaded and adopted Requim's OpenTrack "profile".

 

There's a (too) long thread on setting it up that is actually confusing and convoluted. But it was pretty simple once you separate the wheat from the chaff. I don't know how much easier TIR is as I've never used it.

 

 

[blitze]

@ HeerRitter,

 

Open Track was the software I used.  Fairly straight forward to setup - just follow the guides and you'll be up and running in no time.

 

Eyesight and VR - I am long sighted and find VR much easier for me visually to use than looking at a monitor.  Then there is the depth perception you get with VR that aids in Landing and shooting.  Running a wide FOV headset from Pimax, I don't seem to mind or find issues with motion sickness.  Maybe because there is more on the periphery visually than the goggle style of VR that most others deliver.  

 

There are a few tricks one can do also to minimise issues like blinking if needed when doing large sweeping movements with ones view.  I decided to go VR as it was approx the same cost wise as investing in a large widescreen monitor with a decent refresh rate.  Glad I did but for a budget, with tracking and monitor flying - Delan Clip is a good way to go and you can find some good offers on net (Ebay / Amazon).

 

Oh, yeah, HOTAS is a requirement but Saitek's X52 Pro is a reasonable stick for that without being to excessive cost wise.  Also I have a little gap above the bridge of my nose which allows for me to peak at my keyboard when required but that isn't often as you get the feel for where things are.

 

Anyway, head tracking will make a big difference for you regardless of system so dive in and enjoy.

[BladeMeister]

TIR Install.

Install the driver which you can download from the Natural point website.

Plug it in.

Download Requim's profile here on this Forum and put it in the proper folder. Adjust TIR5 per Rquiem's directions, which is like 3 adjusts. Very simple.

Start TIR5.

Start Sim.

It is very awkward at first and on average it takes 5-10 hours use to become proficient while using TIR5.

Like anything else, it takes practice, practice, practice.

 

EDIT: I stand corrected. Install software and then plug TIR5 in. It has been a while since I have done an install so i had the first two steps backwards.

 

S!Blade<><

Edited January 7, 2022 by BladeMeister

[ciderworm]

Comparing the 2 side by side I suspect the Amazon sourced unit is from the same factory as the "official" Natural Point item.

 

I took quite a while setting up the thing then downloaded #DerSheriffs profile 'cos I like the stuff he does!!! It was gratifying to see there were no significant differences. I would recommend trying his profile.

[Mtnbiker1998]

From my experience (which was several years ago now, so take it with a grain of salt) the third party headtracking alternatives were far more trouble than they were worth. the ease of use with Trackir's software and hardwarereally made it worth it for me.

 

Granted, nowadays it seems hard to recommend a $200 Trackir when you can get a VR headset for a hundred or so more. Personally I'd be inclined to keep saving up anf go that route. 1:1 headtracking in a 3d environment is far more immersive and fun than a 2d monitor with Trackir. 

 

I gave my trackir to a buddy after I got VR and only miss it for Arma Helis.

[BladeMeister]

It is funny on the TIR5 profiles. After years of perfecting my own profile, I finally downloaded Requiem's profile and compared them. Both of our profiles were almost identical on all axis.

Great minds think alike.

 

S!Blade<><

[BlitzPig_EL]

Been using TrackIR since the early 2000s.  Am now on TIR 5 using the track clip pro.  Painless throughout, utterly reliable.  It just works.  And no need for bleeding edge computing power like VR.

 

It will be at least 5 years before VR becomes as easy, cost effective, and as hassle free as TIR and a good monitor is now.  Just look at all the threads here from people with frame rate issues, graphics issues, and other visual anomalies.  In the main, what links them all together?

 

VR use.  It's still a late alpha or very early beta technology.  Wait and let the early adopters get it sorted, and remember to thank them for their service in the advancement of sim technology.

[HeerRitter]

45 minutes ago, Mtnbiker1998 said:

third party headtracking alternatives were far more trouble than they were worth. the ease of use with Trackir's software and hardwarereally made it worth it for me.

 

Do you mean [DelanClip vs Track IR5] or [Track IR5 Vs Track NP5] which is the Chinese nock off of Track IR 5?

 

I can't justify VR right now I just, 1 week before Christmas day spent £700 on a 42" 4k gaming Tv, to then go and spend £300+ on VR would be stupid even for me, not saying I wont go VR at some point.

54 minutes ago, ciderworm said:

Comparing the 2 side by side I suspect the Amazon sourced unit is from the same factory as the "official" Natural Point item.

 

That was my thinking as well, as most stuff electrical these days is made in china.

19 minutes ago, BlitzPig_EL said:

Been using TrackIR since the early 2000s.  Am now on TIR 5 using the track clip pro.  Painless throughout, utterly reliable.  It just works.  And no need for bleeding edge computing power like VR.

 

Are you using the hat reflectors or the pro clip? Anyone know if there is an issue with how high you can set the IR cam, or if it can be set below the screen rather than above?

 

1 hour ago, BladeMeister said:

TIR Install.

Plug it in.

Install the driver which you can download from the Natural point website.

Download Requim's profile here on this Forum and put it in the proper folder. Adjust TIR5 per Rquiem's directions, which is like 3 adjusts. Very simple.

Start TIR5.

Start Sim.

It is very awkward at first and on average it takes 5-10 hours use to become proficient while using TIR5.

Like anything else, it takes practice, practice, practice.

 

That's kinda what I was hoping for out of the box set up and simple software, as far as getting used to actual game play with track Ir ur right it's learning curve just like the game it's self

I think I'm gonna give DelanClip a go as it's only £70 and they give you a 14 day free returns option u can see for myself if u like it, and if not I'll return it and go with the Track IR 5, or more like it'll be the [Track NP5] as the official Track IR5 is unavailable everywhere I've looked so far.

 

1 hour ago, cardboard_killer said:

I just installed open track, made a few adjustments on the PS3 Eye, then downloaded and adopted Requim's OpenTrack "profile".

 

I'll give this one a go @cardboard_killer if I get stuck I might bug you some more lol

 

cheers guys ?

Edited January 6, 2022 by HeerRitter

[ciderworm]

OK, I've dug out the bumf that comes with (official) TIR.

 

Recommended distance from tracker to clip = between 2 and 5 feet with the clip horizontal to the tracker. [My setup is about 2 foot with the clip about 6 inches below. The tracker is angled downwards accordingly] 

 

The Amazon sourced NP5 came with very little setup info. I guess this is where some costs are saved. IAW Natural Point instructions you should download the Natural Point software and run the installer BEFORE you plug in the tracker.

 

Maybe a good idea to download their instruction manual before buying as well if that's the route you choose.

[HeerRitter]

22 minutes ago, ciderworm said:

OK, I've dug out the bumf that comes with (official) TIR.

 

Recommended distance from tracker to clip = between 2 and 5 feet with the clip horizontal to the tracker. [My setup is about 2 foot with the clip about 6 inches below. The tracker is angled downwards accordingly] 

 

The Amazon sourced NP5 came with very little setup info. I guess this is where some costs are saved. IAW Natural Point instructions you should download the Natural Point software and run the installer BEFORE you plug in the tracker.

 

Maybe a good idea to download their instruction manual before buying as well if that's the route you choose.

 

Even though I posted I was gonna go with the cheaper DelanClip I think I'm gonna go with the Track NP5 as I can (apparently) attach the reflectors to the top of my headset which will bring it up more inline with the IR device, as all though I'm definatly sitting within 2-5 feet from the screen I'm pretty sure the top of my head is lower than 6" to the top of the tv. It also means I don't have to mess around to much with setting anything up as it seems that it's basically lug and play, and besides Amazon (as long as it's Amazon fulfilling it) is pretty good at returns you get a full 30 days, so it gives me plenty of time to see what's what.

OK Guys I just bought the Track IR 5 from Amazon, arriving tomorrow, so I'll let you all know how I get on over the weekend with using it.

 

I really appreciate all your replies and help ur defiantly one of the best communities out there, I don't think I would of stuck with IL 2 if It wasn't for you lot, no bs.

[6./ZG26_Custard]

4 hours ago, HeerRitter said:

OK but if you was to choose having used both, what would be your honest preference out of the two, wired vs wireless or is it really so little difference you wouldn't justify the additional nearly £30?

The lack of wires trailing from the headset is a big bonus so if budget isn't a problem then I'd go wireless.

Oops, just read your last post. I'm sure you'll enjoy TrackIR 

[HeerRitter]

1 hour ago, 6./ZG26_Custard said:

Oops, just read your last post. I'm sure you'll enjoy TrackIR 

 

lol Thanks @6./ZG26_Custard I hope so I've pretty much blown my pocket money to my self for the rest of the year over the last couple of weeks what with a new 42" 4k gaming tv, 3 of the great battles maps + Flying Circus Vol1 and now track IR.. I wish someone had told me how addictive IL2 is once you start getting into it ?

 

Worth every penny ? 

Edited January 6, 2022 by HeerRitter

[Irishratticus72]

22 minutes ago, HeerRitter said:

 

lol Thanks @6./ZG26_Custard I hope so I've pretty much blown my pocket money to my self for the rest of the year over the last couple of weeks what with a new 42" 4k gaming tv, 3 of the great battles maps + Flying Circus Vol1 and now track IR.. I wish someone had told me how addictive IL2 is once you start getting into it ?

 

Worth every penny ? 

Wait until you "unintentionally" damage your perfectly good X52 Pro, just so you can justify to the missus your reason for buying a Warthog setup. Imma gonna burn in hell. 

[Halon]

I use Track Hat Clip which has been really easy to set up, uses OpenTrack like some of the others and even though I'm not tech savvy I managed to get it setup the way I want, they're also launching their own IR camera soon. I've used the wired version and its not really bothered me at all.

 

https://www.trackhat.org/

[BOO]

@HeerRitter  I use a TIR5 with a 40inch TV that Im sat about 4 foot from.

 

Ive found the TIR camera is not very forgiving when used outside of its "hey its 2004 and just look at the size of my 15" CRT monitor which I peer down at" conception. 

 

I use this clamped to my wheelstand pro to get the camera position right. It holds the camera securley and its very stable. Itll clamp to most things such a tabel tops, throttle and stick mounts etc. 

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07S8G38J6/ref=sspa_dk_detail_1?pd_rd_i=B07S8G38J6&pd_rd_w=ds5Ui&pf_rd_p=828203ef-618e-4303-a028-460d6b615038&pd_rd_wg=Sklnh&pf_rd_r=MZ3TJ4G9EQA6BT4GQG6Q&pd_rd_r=5372435e-f4ff-4911-845e-7d55cd9cbbd0&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUFCM1JXUzI2Q1pNTTEmZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTA4NDM4MTIyRkM4RUJDM1ZBVjVMJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTEwMDM5MDkySDJEMUpTR1hQRUVGJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfZGV0YWlsJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ&th=1

 

 

Edited January 7, 2022 by BOO

[HeerRitter]

15 hours ago, Irishratticus72 said:

Wait until you "unintentionally" damage your perfectly good X52 Pro, just so you can justify to the missus your reason for buying a Warthog setup. Imma gonna burn in hell. 

 

LOL that's to funny, I'm still trying to find an excuse to get pedals for my as the thrustmaster 16000 has twist rudder on the stick.. I take it you play DCS?

10 hours ago, BOO said:

@HeerRitter  I use a TIR5 with a 40inch TV that Im sat about 4 foot from.

 

Ive found the TIR camera is not very forgiving when used outside of its "hey its 2004 and just look at the size of my 15" CRT monitor which I peer down at" conception. 

 

I use this clamped to my wheelstand pro to get the camera position right. It holds the camera securley and its very stable. Itll clamp to most things such a tabel tops, throttle and stick mounts etc. 

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07S8G38J6/ref=sspa_dk_detail_1?pd_rd_i=B07S8G38J6&pd_rd_w=ds5Ui&pf_rd_p=828203ef-618e-4303-a028-460d6b615038&pd_rd_wg=Sklnh&pf_rd_r=MZ3TJ4G9EQA6BT4GQG6Q&pd_rd_r=5372435e-f4ff-4911-845e-7d55cd9cbbd0&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUFCM1JXUzI2Q1pNTTEmZW5jcnlwdGVkSWQ9QTA4NDM4MTIyRkM4RUJDM1ZBVjVMJmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTEwMDM5MDkySDJEMUpTR1hQRUVGJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfZGV0YWlsJmFjdGlvbj1jbGlja1JlZGlyZWN0JmRvTm90TG9nQ2xpY2s9dHJ1ZQ&th=1

 

 

 

That's a good idea.. I could easily attach that to the back of my desk, as you can se from the pic of my set up I'm sat right in front of the tv but it's on the wall so height  might be an issue! I'm thinking that with the height of my tv and attaching the reflectors from the Track IR on top of my headset (which I've seen done) that negate the need to move the IR sensor but when I get the clip pro which will obviously be attached to the side of my headset at eye level I recon that Gooseneck holder will be ideal, thanks for that.

[Irishratticus72]

16 hours ago, HeerRitter said:

 

lol Thanks @6./ZG26_Custard I hope so I've pretty much blown my pocket money to my self for the rest of the year over the last couple of weeks what with a new 42" 4k gaming tv, 3 of the great battles maps + Flying Circus Vol1 and now track IR.. I wish someone had told me how addictive IL2 is once you start getting into it ?

 

Worth every penny ? 

I do play DCS, but I find myself flying the Warbirds more often these days. 

Edited January 7, 2022 by Irishratticus72

[HeerRitter]

@Irishratticus72 I'm looking forward to DCS being in my line up, I was close to buying the WW2 maps, Assets pack and the bf109 k while it was on sale on Steam over Christmas but I bought the Tracker IR instead. but as soon as the Corsair is released I'm all in I'll buy both European and the Pacific map and both the Corsair and bf 109 k, won't be cheap but who doesn't want to fly a Corsair in the Pacific theatre against Japanese Zeros.. 

Edited January 7, 2022 by HeerRitter

[HeerRitter]

I thought I'd show what you get with cheaper or OEM Track NP5 I bought from Amazon £129 compared to the official Track IR5 in case anyone reading this down the line is thinking of buying one.

 

Ill be honest I didn't realise how small the IR sensor actual was I was expecting a much bigger box

 

Edited January 7, 2022 by HeerRitter
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[Irishratticus72]

58 minutes ago, HeerRitter said:

@Irishratticus72 I'm looking forward to DCS being in my line up, I was close to buying the WW2 maps, Assets pack and the bf109 k while it was on sale on Steam over Christmas but I bought the Tracker IR instead. but as soon as the Corsair is released I'm all in I'll buy the 2 Europe maps and the Pacific map the Corsair and the bf 109 k, not gonna be cheap but who doesn't want to fly a Corsair in the Pacific theatre against Japanese Zeros lol 

The 190 A8 is a lot of fun, as is the F86. Probably shouldn't say that here, ?

[HeerRitter]

Just now, Irishratticus72 said:

The 190 A8 is a lot of fun, as is the F86. Probably shouldn't say that here, ?

 

I have way to slow reactions for jet fighters lol

[HeerRitter]

@BOO I'm having some issues with zoom, the way the IR module is angled down is causing an issue where if i lean in to zoom in i also look up, how did you set urs up? The only way I can see with one of those goosenecks is it coming up in front of the screen by a good 10" with the arm of the gooseneck as well that's a lot of screen being obscured!

 

I'm not gonna lie I'm already weighing up the cost of VR  now vs trying to position this Track IR somehow or repositioning my Tv (not really an option)

 

Hopefully this thread will be of some use to someone in the future who is also thinking of getting either VR or Track IR with a 40+ screen ?

Edited January 7, 2022 by HeerRitter

[fergal69]

Try Ali Express, that's where I'm looking to get one from in the near future.

[HeerRitter]

On 1/6/2022 at 1:30 PM, 6./ZG26_Custard said:

Before going over to VR

which VR set did you go for? I've just been having a look as my Track IR arrived today and it's proving a little difficult due to the height of my screen above my head, aprox 13"+

The 3 VR sets I've seen are the Occulus Rift 2 (affordable) , HTC Vive ( definitely not affordable lol ) and the Valve Index VR (again from what I see not very affordable, but nice)

Just now, fergal69 said:

Try Ali Express, that's where I'm looking to get one from in the near future.

 

Whats that VR?