Advance And Secure (Planes And Tanks)

[moustache]

hi all, little question, while playing last night, i noticed that the AI tanks did not wear winter camouflage, except for a few who were static in defense? a bug coming from me or not?

[super-truite]

could be a script problem. I have a script converting winter missions to summer ones.

Some news: I am trying a new server. The f..ing "Server performance" message might drop ... (And yeah I cannot remove it )

[moustache]

how about a new server?

how about a new server?

[super-truite]

5 hours ago, moustache said:

how about a new server?

how about a new server?

patience et longueur de temps font plus que force ni que rage 

[super-truite]

New server is up. Performances seems great!  I will try to make the stats system available later (for the moment it will not be updated)

[moustache]

sorry, I don't know if it comes from me or from the server, but it seems impossible to modify your tank, whether for camos or shells...

[super-truite]

hmm seems weird. Did not have this issue

[moustache]

ok, I tried to reload, even by changing mission, the bug is present, I will check on my side... thank you

[ShampooX]

I would play A&S more if it had tank-only missions. As it stands now,  I'd rather player Finnish with more planes but on a larger map.  Too many planes in too small a place on A&S: the same reason I quit War Thunder.

[super-truite]

I was thinking about it, maybe I will do some tank only test at some point. But I am not convinced that planes are that much annoying or maybe I am very lucky. Yesterday I played 3 hours and I got killed by a plane 2 times which is not much since we were no more than 3 or 4 russian tanks. Also I like the fact that I can switch to AAA vehicle to change a bit of gameplay style.

[Fisheye1964]

Tank only map would be ok, but not necessary in my mind. As by now one has the possibility to choose between action on ground and in air. I sometimes change between plane and tank depending on gameplay.

And the possibility to switch off heavy tank production by destroying the factory gives another strategic possibility.

 

[=J18=CCC]

Hello everyone,

please check out the new

planner channel on the AAS Didcord server.

(link at the end)

 

The Idea is to have a place that is pre organizing possible future tank battles.

No matter if it is a repeating, sporadic or just a one time eve  nt.

These events can be created by everyone.

 

So, lets say you just want to let others know when you are planing to be online again and invite them at the same time.

 

Once your event is created, others can simply click on one of three icons for attending options:

Accepted

Maybe

Declined

 

This is in a test stage, please have a look.

Comments and suggestions sre welcome.

The “how to” description is is in the channel, for it may change..

 

https://discord.com/channels/792379444136116264/945382527974113340

 

Happy battle times to all

CCC

 

Edited February 22, 2022 by cpt_chaos_canada

[LUZITANO]

The Koln map is bugged. destroying the factory makes no difference. Anyway, you don't have any red tank players on your server.

[super-truite]

I am fed up about all this never ending balance discussion. Try to balance teams like adults and if not I will activate autobalance soon, and if the player population drops too much as a result I will just stop the server .  I have other projects on other game engines and I am getting less and less pleasure developing this and playing it as I feel more like a kindergarden supervisor than anything else . 

[1.JaVA_KEBEN]

7 minutes ago, super-truite said:

I am fed up about all this never ending balance discussion. Try to balance teams like adults and if not I will activate autobalance soon, and if the player population drops too much as a result I will just stop the server .  I have other projects on other game engines and I am getting less and less pleasure developing this and playing it as I feel more like a kindergarden supervisor than anything else . 

You have make a great server , and a lot of fun to play on this server ... thanks for that ! 

 

I only dont want to play with a russian tank , thats all .

 

Thats my own decision and have nothing to do with your great server.

 

S!

 

 

[LUZITANO]

On 3/13/2022 at 5:15 PM, super-truite said:

I am fed up about all this never ending balance discussion. Try to balance teams like adults and if not I will activate autobalance soon, and if the player population drops too much as a result I will just stop the server .  I have other projects on other game engines and I am getting less and less pleasure developing this and playing it as I feel more like a kindergarden supervisor than anything else . 

You did a very complex thing with artificial intelligence, honestly it's unique. The game, even without players on one side, ends up becoming a "cooperative mode". Auto balance is not necessary. My pont is... Panther is far superior to any allied tank and a Tiger is a very difficult tank to defeat, so consider limiting their number, that would be fairer after all they were poorly produced and had much less combat than standard medium tanks. I'm going to stop criticizing. Just for record, I play more on your server than you and Keben combined.

[Fisheye1964]

Hi all,

 

first I want to say thank you to super-truite for this server. It ist a pleasure to play here and the maps are fine. One has to spend a lot of time and work to make and keep it running. Keep it alive please!

 

About balance: this is a problem for all servers and in my opnion you won't get a solution that makes everybody happy. But It makes nevertheless fun to play without any players at the other side as long as you have AI (and we have it). In the past I played mostly the red side, because I wanted to help balancing and it is for sure in some ways easier to play the blue side. Bit in my opinion it makes more fun, if it is not too easy to win. The reason for me to play red side was, that there were mostly more blue players than reds. At server, where you can only fight with planes, it is mostly the other way. More reds. This depends on the better material each side has at ground or in the air.

 

EDIT SMITH

 

We should not start a discussion here about things we can not change. Just enjoy the game in the way you want to and in a matter that you feel fine and you can accept. If one plays red it is okay for me. But the next weeks I personally will prefer another colour. The rainbow has more ?

 

Hope my english is not too bad. I am not a native speaker.

 

See you in the skies and at ground.

 

[CountZero]

im sure players are getting ready for churchill, so now they are playing almost all on axis tanks as they know when churchill comes they will all playing with churchill vs panthers and tigers... tank MP have bright future in this game, everyone is just getting rdy at this point for time when churchill comes, now practicing shooting ai and static objects is way to playin MP, farm the stats when no red human tanks, but when churchill comes then real human tank v tank starts ?

 

Edited March 15, 2022 by CountZero

[super-truite]

Another solution is to turn the server into a coop ... Everyone in Tigers against stupid waves of AIs 

[moustache]

27 minutes ago, CountZero said:

im sure players are getting ready for churchill, so now they are playing almost all on axis tanks as they know when churchill comes they will all playing with churchill vs panthers and tigers... tank MP have bright future in this game, everyone is just getting rdy at this point for time when churchill comes, now practicing shooting ai and static objects is way to playin MP, farm the stats when no red human tanks, but when churchill comes then real human tank v tank starts ?

 

I'm a bit afraid that he's too weak with his 57 mmm cannon to offer serious competition... moreover, I don't have the impression that the AP shells (normally he will only have shells AP if it's English...) are not very effective in play... it penetrates, but that's all...

[super-truite]

The post of CountZero was ironic . By choosing to keep going for the realistic Kursk battle setup (adding only tanks used in this battle), I think the devs doomed multiplayer for tankers. But I know that most players play il2 solo anyway so this might not be a bad business decision, just disappointing for us that like to kill humans . But to be fair, I am not even sure that a 76 Sherman, IS2 or Pershing would solve everything. But at least it would bring more people and I could activate finally the dreaded autobalance while still keeping enough players.

[moustache]

42 minutes ago, super-truite said:

The post of CountZero was ironic 

oh damn... how stupid I am... excuse me, I have a fever, my brain is melting...

[LUZITANO]

On 3/15/2022 at 6:08 AM, super-truite said:

I could activate finally the dreaded autobalance while still keeping enough players.

This sounds like a nuke bomb threat. That would make the situation worse...

 

On 3/15/2022 at 6:08 AM, super-truite said:

By choosing to keep going for the realistic Kursk battle setup (adding only tanks used in this battle), I think the devs doomed multiplayer for tankers.

Red tank players exist, it's not the game's fault. The game is historic, who makes the balance are the servers, by limiting some types of vehicles or modifications. The same thing happens with the 262 jet, it is limited in multiplayer missions (in big air servers) for historical reasons and also because if they were fully released it would not be possible to have a functional multiplayer game.

 

EDIT SMITH

 

[ShampooX]

I think that keeping the realistic balance to just the tanks used at Kursk is the main thing that keeps me and many other players coming back to TC.  If I wanted to have "performance based" balance then I'd just start playing War Thunder again.....where Tiger Tanks from 1944 fight against tanks from the 1950's, 60's and 70's because "it's fair."  Anyway, I will start playing A&S when we have some "Tank Only" maps.  

[super-truite]

1 hour ago, LUZITANO said:

Red tank players exist, it's not the game's fault. The game is historic, who makes the balance are the servers, by limiting some types of vehicles or modifications. The same thing happens with the 262 jet, it is limited in multiplayer missions (in big air servers) for historical reasons and also because if they were fully released it would not be possible to have a functional multiplayer game.

 

 

Let's agree to completely disagree on that point. I think people that pay something want to be able to play it . I wish people would play not only half of what they bought though. Every possible action will make the problem worse: If I remove/limit more Tigers/Panthers, people will just switch server and it is not theoretical, it happens when the factory is destroyed...

 

 

49 minutes ago, TheRealShampoo said:

I think that keeping the realistic balance to just the tanks used at Kursk is the main thing that keeps me and many other players coming back to TC. 

You have other periods of the war where the balance would have been better + there is a huge crowd that would not mind doing slightly unhistorical tanks sets just for the sake of having more players to play with. I am among those. I really do not mind about being in an inferior tank but I know that a lot of player do and it is one of the reasons why the TC online population is quite low IMO. All the servers do not have to be historical. Personally, the immersion and the feeling to control a real tank is there in IL2 and it is what matters to me. For the solo experience it was interesting to play the Kursk events on both sides in a realistic setup, but for online gameplay I don't mind taking some unhistorical design decisions. Il2 will not suddenly become a WarThunder copycat if we use a tank that was developed 6 months after the battle of Kursk during the battle of Kursk...

Server updated btw

[LUZITANO]

2 hours ago, super-truite said:

I think people that pay something want to be able to play it 

This perspective does not work in IL-2 multiplayer. The simulator is not made to be "fair and balanced". It's not the same as WOT, WT or Battlefield Series that make vehicles that are the same, with different designs. Your missions have too many heavy tanks for the Blue team, even the AI Tiger is hard to kill. Also... the same set of tanks in every mission becomes boring over time, missions don't change dynamically when you could have some missions with more heavy tanks, others with more medium tanks, etc... Limiting vehicles doesn't alienate players because everyone servers do this. And if Germany has superior tanks, it's impossible to consider letting them go so in large numbers because it will end up making the game disfunctional.

 

3 hours ago, TheRealShampoo said:

I think that keeping the realistic balance to just the tanks used at Kursk is the main thing that keeps me and many other players coming back to TC.  If I wanted to have "performance based" balance then I'd just start playing War Thunder again.....where Tiger Tanks from 1944 fight against tanks from the 1950's, 60's and 70's because "it's fair."  Anyway, I will start playing A&S when we have some "Tank Only" maps.  

Germany has the best tanks and some of them are far superior to the red tanks. That's not a problem, the IL-2 simulator has no focus on balance, just history. But the heavy tanks cannot be chosen unlimitedly because historically they were really limited. If the heavy tank was historically limited and in the game it will be distributed in large quantitaty, then this will only favor a type of player who just wants an easy win.

Edited March 15, 2022 by LUZITANO

[moustache]

hi @super-truite, if i'm not mistaken, there are no night missions...the new sky they introduced is really nice and i was thinking it might be nice to have fairly clear night missions ( like a full moon), in semi-overcast weather... I think it would bring a new gameplay (between the ease of hiding it and the fact that the slightest shot would be spotted from miles away...)... here's just a idea...

 

ah, and question: is there another site to see the population of the server?

Edited March 23, 2022 by moustache

[moustache]

guys, @Frinik22 and @1.JaVA_KEBEN, you don't want to talk about this in private, it doesn't concern the server too much and if a slightly hot moddo comes around, it might end badly... please

[Fisheye1964]

Moustache is right. Public discussion could end badly and will bring nothing at all. Everybody has told its opinion and everybody has the right to have its own opinion. And one may not be able to change a personel opinion of another one in this way.

Just enjoy gaming!

[Frinik22]

Ok Moustache! got the message. You are absolutely right! TBH I didn't want to drag this on but since Java _Keben made comments that didn't make any sense to me I felt compelled to reply. Conversation ended as far as I am concerned.

 

Cheers.

Edited March 28, 2022 by Frinik22

[MisterSmith]

Step back from the keyboard and no one gets hurt.

 

This was a huge mess to clean up. Multiple posts have been edited or hidden. Three bans have been issued. Take the politics outside, they are not welcome here. Keep it community friendly. This is a game/simulator forum. Stay on topic, please.

 

Smith

[super-truite]

lol what happened in here  ?

@moustache sorry do not have much time ATM, the statistics website was not yet migrated to the new server. Will try to go back to it when real life stops interfering . The only way to see the number of players currently is to be among the allowed users on discord and type !players in a special channel.
I tried night missions before but it was a bit painful for my eyes , will check again with the new lights.  

@TheRealShampoo I tried to make a new tank only map but got lost in the editor spaghettis , I need to find a 2 hours of free time in a row to tame the beast 

[Lofte]

@super-truite - any plans to add Ju-88C-6 on maps?

[moustache]

hello, small question: what is the precision of the AI shooters on the servers? it seems to me particularly precise, even at long ave sometimes with poor quality optics...

[super-truite]

update of the server. Ju88 and Mosquito added on 2 maps

[Lofte]

Hi Truite, plz do something with this:

 

[super-truite]

wut? Must be because of Russian language files not well done, will check. Did it work before ?

[Lofte]

2 minutes ago, super-truite said:

Did it work before ?

No idea. This screenshot I made 31/05/2022

[super-truite]

• Factory bug should be fixed (heavy tanks won't be available when factory or other "logistic-objectives" are destroyed). 
• New winter mission around Malmedy during the Battle of the Buldge

[Fritz_Faber]

server down?