Microsoft Flight Sim 2020

[CanadaOne]

5 minutes ago, unlikely_spider said:

Well, good luck. Didn't they say that they have 2,000 TB of data that comprise the sim? I hope you have a lot of free space.

 

I have 700GB free on my NVME drive. Will that hold 2000TB?

[unlikely_spider]

3 minutes ago, CanadaOne said:

 

I have 700GB free on my NVME drive. Will that hold 2000TB?

*carries the one

?

Yeah, I think you're good.

[AndyJWest]

4 minutes ago, CanadaOne said:

 

I have 700GB free on my NVME drive. Will that hold 2000TB?

 

You can always download some more storage space. ?

[CanadaOne]

Just now, AndyJWest said:

 

You can always download some more storage space. ?

 

Good idea. 

 

There's a site that sells $100 bills for $50 each, I'll get the money there and then download some storage. 

[DD_Arthur]

27 minutes ago, CanadaOne said:

 

As a highly qualified and fully accredited map slut, I want every blade of grass, every painted door handle, and every bit of garbage on the ground this sim has to offer.

Painted sluts too? For sixty bucks?  You just can’t go wrong.....?

[CanadaOne]

2 minutes ago, DD_Arthur said:

Painted sluts too? For sixty bucks?  You just can’t go wrong.....?

 

Sold! Can't have too many painted sluts. 

 

And it's $159Cdn. for the super deluxe extra-cheese version. That ain't cheap but I'm pre-ordering.

[Lusekofte]

43 minutes ago, Tycoon said:

Also for you guys buying the premium edition for airports wouldn't it be better to wait and see what the standard version of the airports looks like? From what we have seen in videos the non special airports look pretty good as well. 

Well I sm back and forward on this. I see 3 planes of interest extra except from the two versions of cessna. Caravan is on standard together with the cub. I have a vague feeling I be good on standard version

[CanadaOne]

6 minutes ago, 216th_LuseKofte said:

Well I sm back and forward on this. I see 3 planes of interest extra except from the two versions of cessna. Caravan is on standard together with the cub. I have a vague feeling I be good on standard version

 

How are you going to live with yourself when you see my screenshots of Heathrow and Frankfurt? 

[DD_Arthur]

I’m sure the standard version will keep me pretty occupied if this thing is really as good as it looks.   I’m in it for the sightseeing.

Just now, CanadaOne said:

 

How are you going to live with yourself when you see my screenshots of Heathrow and Frankfurt? 

Lol?

[Tycoon]

9 minutes ago, 216th_LuseKofte said:

Well I sm back and forward on this. I see 3 planes of interest extra except from the two versions of cessna. Caravan is on standard together with the cub. I have a vague feeling I be good on standard version

I can understand the airplanes, was referring to the airports, we haven't seen any comparisons between regular and high detail.

[busdriver]

6 hours ago, 216th_LuseKofte said:

... Caravan is on standard together with the cub. I have a vague feeling I be good on standard version

 

I’ll be fine with the Standard version. Going to fly the Carbon Cub until its wings fall off.

[6./ZG26_5tuka]

Not that blown away by the list of aircraft selected but  the scenery makes up for the lack of some nice vintage aircraft (PT 17, DC-3, DH.82) and gliders. Sure, payware will satisfy that need down the road, but it could have been incooperated in exchanged for 1 or 2 of less interesting ultra lights in the pack.

 

My aircraft of interest are:

 

Cessna 208 Caravan

Robin Dr. 400

Zlin Savage Cub (I preferr the vintage look over the carbon cub)

 

Since they are all standard I might save the money for premium for buying quality 3rd party content instead. Not sure if Frankfurt is worth the extra 60$ to me.

Edited July 14, 2020 by 6./ZG26_5tuka

[SeaW0lf]

I read somewhere that one of the Asobo guys was playing the game with a GTX 1060, 60fps in 1080p and high settings (1440p with mixed settings). My i5-9600K should do and I have enough internet band. I'm just going to get a 3060 or something at the end of the year.

[161snails]

Yep VR yes please....No VR no thnaks

[Blooddawn1942]

I don't get it. Does anyone knows if this X-Box game pass whatever thingy is mandatory or not? I'm not eager to pay on a monthly base to use the flightsim. 

[wheeliemonsta]

  

39 minutes ago, Blooddawn1942 said:

I don't get it. Does anyone knows if this X-Box game pass whatever thingy is mandatory or not? I'm not eager to pay on a monthly base to use the flightsim. 

No, I don't believe the GamePass is mandatory. Buy the sim - Base, Premium or Deluxe and that's it, you own it and can play it.

If you already have a GamePass subscription, or choose to go that way, then you get access to the Base version of the sim while your subscription is active.

 

 

Edited July 14, 2020 by wheeliemonsta

[Blooddawn1942]

9 minutes ago, wheeliemonsta said:

  

No, I don't believe the GamePass is mandatory. Buy the sim - Base, Premium or Deluxe and that's it, you own it and can play it.

If you already have a GamePass subscription, or choose to go that way, then you get access to the Base version of the sim while your subscription is active.

 

 

Thanks for the reply. That would be fine. Consider me in, despite the lack of VR support. I'm really curious and looking forward to the sim. 

[CanadaOne]

2 hours ago, SeaW0lf said:

I read somewhere that one of the Asobo guys was playing the game with a GTX 1060, 60fps in 1080p and high settings (1440p with mixed settings). My i5-9600K should do and I have enough internet band. I'm just going to get a 3060 or something at the end of the year.

 

Maybe they've optimized the chit out of this thing and it actually runs well. In any case a 9600K should run it very well from what I've heard. I went with an 8 core just for this sim because it seems it will use them. Might be tempted for a 32" monitor though. 

 

Can't wait to fly out of Lukla. 

 

[Guest deleted@210880]

Holy crap, the real cost to me would be the price of the hardrive upgrade to hold it (alongside BoX, Clod and the handful of other games I have installed at any one time)!

 

Looks like it could be worth it though, will see how it reviews.

 

Edited July 14, 2020 by deleted@210880

[SeaW0lf]

2 hours ago, CanadaOne said:

 

Maybe they've optimized the chit out of this thing and it actually runs well. In any case a 9600K should run it very well from what I've heard. I went with an 8 core just for this sim because it seems it will use them. Might be tempted for a 32" monitor though. 

 

Can't wait to fly out of Lukla. 

 

 

Yup, hope so. I can also overclock it. And from the posts out there, the sim runs pretty smooth, but I won't believe until I see it! Especially with TrackIR.

[Tycoon]

3 hours ago, SeaW0lf said:

 

Yup, hope so. I can also overclock it. And from the posts out there, the sim runs pretty smooth, but I won't believe until I see it! Especially with TrackIR.

Don't think it has trakir support yet.

[Lusekofte]

23 minutes ago, Tycoon said:

Don't think it has trakir support yet.

Xplane got a weird trackir setting. 
I still not quite sure what to do. The envelope of use for me is still not clear to me

[Tycoon]

19 minutes ago, 216th_LuseKofte said:

Xplane got a weird trackir setting. 
I still not quite sure what to do. The envelope of use for me is still not clear to me

Forget to mention trakir devs said support is coming.

[SeaW0lf]

26 minutes ago, Tycoon said:

Forget to mention trakir devs said support is coming.

 

Yup, there is a post in the NaturalPoint forum with a developer or something saying that they contected Asobo is April if I'm not mistaken. So it might support at the release. In case not, I'll just do some taxiing, cockpit check and such for a couple months, because it will take me a while to fly those planes. Sort of like in DCS (loved it), but I assume MSFS2020 will be more complex than the P-51 startup. I think I won't take-off unless I have TrackIR support. 

[Guest deleted@83466]

1 hour ago, SeaW0lf said:

 

 Sort of like in DCS (loved it), but I assume MSFS2020 will be more complex than the P-51 startup. I think I won't take-off unless I have TrackIR support. 

 

This is a confusing comment.  You're comparing a very specific aircraft in DCS (a study-sim airplane, but ultimately one that isn't so complex compared to most) to a generalization about MSFS.  MSFS has always included "default" aircraft, almost none of them that could be considered study-sim level by the general understanding of that term.  I don't know for sure, but I doubt MSFS2020 will be any different.  My guess is that, as with it's predecessors, if you want that kind of detail, it's going to come in the form of 3rd party payware.  So if you are flying a hypothetical A2A Simulations P-51D, the startup is almost certain to be close to identical between DCS and MSFS2020, because they both are pretty much accurate.  If MSFS2020 is anything like it's predecessors, and even X-Plane, the accuracy and depth of any given plane will be dependent on the 3rd party and will range from crapola, to sublime (PMDG, FSLabs, etc).  In the later case, these planes take years to develop, tend to cost in the $100 range by themselves, and I wouldn't count on Microsoft including anything near that level in the basic sim, unless it is by special arrangement with a known 3rd party developer.

 

As far as TrackIR goes, MSFS2020 *better* have native TrackIR support.  This is 2020.  Any group that would release a flight sim these days that didn't would be out of their mind.  Of course it will have it.

Edited July 14, 2020 by SeaSerpent

[SeaW0lf]

13 minutes ago, SeaSerpent said:

 

This is a confusing comment.  You're comparing a very specific aircraft in DCS (a study-sim airplane, but ultimately one that isn't so complex compared to most) to a generalalization about MSFS.  MSFS has always included "default" aircraft, almost none of them that could be considered study-sim level by the general understanding of that term.  I don't know for sure, but I doubt MSFS2020 will be any different.  My guess is that, as with it's predecessors, if you want that kind of detail, it's going to come in the form of 3rd party payware.  So if you are flying a hypothetical A2A Simulations P-51D, the startup is almost certain to be close to identical between DCS and MSFS2020, because they both are pretty much accurate.  If MSFS2020 is anything like it's predecessors, and even X-Plane, the accuracy and depth of any given plane will be dependent on the 3rd party and will range from crapola, to sublime (PMDG, FSLabs, etc).  In the later case, these planes take years to develop, tend to cost in the $100 range by themselves, and I wouldn't count on Microsoft including anything near that level in the basic sim, unless it is by special arrangement with a known 3rd party developer.

 

As far as TrackIR goes, MSFS2020 *better* have native TrackIR support.  This is 2020.  Any group that would release a flight sim these days that didn't would be out of their mind.  Of course it will have it.

 

Relax, I never played MSFS, so it will take me time to get used to the cockpits. And I'm pretty sure it will have startup procedures enough to entertain me for the first year or so. 

 

It was also mentioned here that TrackIR is on its way. Might not be present at release, but I imagine it won't take more than a few weeks. During this time, I'll be setting up controls, getting acquainted with cockpits and the interface.

[Guest deleted@83466]

Ok, I didn't know that you never used MSFS.  I assumed you had, and hence my reaction like wtf is this guy saying?

 

All I'm saying is be realistic in your expectations.   Your previous comments indicates you might be setting them too high in terms of what you think the basic retail package will be.

[ZachariasX]

40 minutes ago, SeaW0lf said:

And I'm pretty sure it will have startup procedures enough to entertain me for the first year or so. 

Altuough present, startup procedures were never really the main focus of stock aircraft in MSFS. For this latest iteration, what they supply as stock aircraft probably will have a rather detailed cockpit and functionality.

 

If system fidelity is what you crave, you should wait for A2A Simulations modules. They produce some of the best flight sim aircraft you can buy and regarding systems, they are far above what you can buy for DCS. Minus weapons though.

[CanadaOne]

11 hours ago, SeaW0lf said:

 

Yup, hope so. I can also overclock it. And from the posts out there, the sim runs pretty smooth, but I won't believe until I see it! Especially with TrackIR.

 

I just spent my lunch money on an upgrade for this thing and if I can't run it well,  I will be... annoyed. 

[OrLoK]

damn. just spent the last of my savings on fs2020.

 

now terrified.

[SeaW0lf]

8 hours ago, ZachariasX said:

If system fidelity is what you crave, you should wait for A2A Simulations modules. They produce some of the best flight sim aircraft you can buy and regarding systems, they are far above what you can buy for DCS. Minus weapons though.

 

We'll see, because at first it might be a bit overwhelming, especially in bigger planes like the King Air or the smaller jets. I might start with the bushplanes. If in a year or so I get hooked, I can start venturing into the third party market.

[Feathered_IV]

4 hours ago, CanadaOne said:

 

I just spent my lunch money on an upgrade for this thing and if I can't run it well,  I will be... annoyed. 

I think the question we’re all silently asking; what does a Canadian lumberjack have for lunch??

[Redwo1f]

9 minutes ago, Feathered_IV said:

I think the question we’re all silently asking; what does a Canadian lumberjack have for lunch??

 

 

[ZachariasX]

50 minutes ago, SeaW0lf said:

We'll see, because at first it might be a bit overwhelming, especially in bigger planes like the King Air or the smaller jets. I might start with the bushplanes. If in a year or so I get hooked, I can start venturing into the third party market.

 

I never liked the stock aircraft much in MS flight simulators. It made me even skip FSX when it came out. It was A2A simulations products that made me buy it. Those really put the whole sim on a new level.

 

At least with FS2020, they seem to have done extensive research and even sound recordings in the real aircraft. Maybe we don‘t have those Cessna dive brake flaps anymore, things like that. But it surely takes way more than pretty pictures and promises to ever make me care about stock aircraft again.

 

I very much like the vintage aircraft. A Connie might seem daunting first time you are on its flight deck. But it is in fact very simple. In contrast to modern aircraft, all the levers switches and buttons are just for controlling the engine and maintaining basic flight. Once you understood how turbos, superchargers, fuel lines and how the propellers work, most will make sense pretty quickly. And it is very entertaining to have her going in lesser conditions. Especially when you want to get good mileage as well. Finally having sloped runways is just the icing on the cake. Just another real world problem... Just navigating moronic computer interfaces in modern airliners doesn‘t do it for me. From the moment you raise gears, piloting a modern airliner has become a point and click adventure. Just fighting the air traffic controller I find unrewarding as I can‘t kill him.  

 

I don‘t expect much of FS2020 when it comes out. I just hope they will keep working at it.

[Semor76]

11 hours ago, SeaSerpent said:

 

  MSFS has always included "default" aircraft, almost none of them that could be considered study-sim level by the general understanding of that term.  I don't know for sure, but I doubt MSFS2020 will be any different.

Sorry, you´re wrong this time. ?

 

Greez from an Alpha tester.

[CB77Don246]

I remember the CFS 3 intro movie NOTHING LIKE THE SIM worse than CFS 2 

[CanadaOne]

4 hours ago, Feathered_IV said:

I think the question we’re all silently asking; what does a Canadian lumberjack have for lunch??

 

Whatever you'll give me.

 

 

[Bremspropeller]

Peanutf? Which peanutf?

[CanadaOne]

On 7/13/2020 at 8:29 PM, 216th_LuseKofte said:

Well I sm back and forward on this. I see 3 planes of interest extra except from the two versions of cessna. Caravan is on standard together with the cub. I have a vague feeling I be good on standard version

 

On second thought, but I might go standard as well. Not sure.

 

I'm thinking I'll be flying in the boonies most of the time and other than landing at Heathrow once or twice just to marvel at the scenery, that will be all I do there.

 

Decisions, decisions.

[Lusekofte]

2 minutes ago, CanadaOne said:

 

On second thought, but I might go standard as well. Not sure.

 

I'm thinking I'll be flying in the boonies most of the time and other than landing at Heathrow once or twice just to marvel at the scenery, that will be all I do there.

 

Decisions, decisions.

I always overpay. But for me this is not only a software choice. This is the end of a road. 
I will probably uninstall Box donate  my honey comb yoke. Park my rift s and buy this. 
it is 4 k€ worth of hardware. I also renew my helicopter gear. And donate my old ones to the poor. They work great but There is a upgrade

So I wont buy this until I am sure of what I want. I never go half harted into this hobby. 
I lost faith in WW 2 cfs I dont think my interest will be fully committed. Some flights here and there. New tobruk