DetCord12B Posted December 5, 2020 Author Posted December 5, 2020 11 hours ago, VA_SOLIDKREATE said: Me too man. I'd buy this plane for damn sure. We haven't had a actual bomber since BoM/BoS. 10 hours ago, DN308 said: For sure too I would love so much some of the 8 and 9th AF deliveries for action over Northern Europe between 42 and 44 (before D-Day) A B-26 as well. I'm getting tired of the non-stop fighter content. 6 hours ago, imanuthep said: Is there a skinpack of B25 on the line? I hope so It's AI only so I don't really see much of a point. Maybe something generic?
DetCord12B Posted December 8, 2020 Author Posted December 8, 2020 No idea why I keep working on this thing. Spoiler 10
XQ_Lothar29 Posted December 13, 2020 Posted December 13, 2020 On 12/5/2020 at 7:49 AM, VA_SOLIDKREATE said: Me too man. I'd buy this plane for damn sure. +1000 1 1
DetCord12B Posted December 13, 2020 Author Posted December 13, 2020 1 hour ago, XQ_Lothar29 said: +1000 All we need now is a flyable B-26.... 1 2
DetCord12B Posted December 16, 2020 Author Posted December 16, 2020 (edited) A very, very, very long time in the making. I've spent the better part of five months (not full time) updating this series off and on, though more off than on. It was a process of devoting time to it and then saying, 'f&%k this', I'm done, and then proceeding to move on to something else due to how complicated it all was. This project required a complete and utter rewrite/update/everything must go type of thing. The nose art has more or less remained the same due to the fact that I'm an idiot and rasterized everything. However, I've since updated and added color schemes, custom weathering, squadron markings, aircraft markings, custom alpha maps, and anything else I could think of. Hopefully it's all done now...Unless you, the player, finds something jacked up. Edited April 2, 2021 by DetCord12B 23 2 3
senseispcc Posted December 17, 2020 Posted December 17, 2020 A fantastic job, nicely done. Many thanks. 1
DetCord12B Posted December 18, 2020 Author Posted December 18, 2020 Cheers gents. No idea if anyone is interested in these, but this series of three liveries (only 2 pictured here) were done for our MP group last year. This A-20 set I created for our in-depth/hardcore multiplayer group when conducting massed bombing raids in BoBp when Assembly Ships were needed to put us on track and organize the formation. These were really helpful in MP (player flown) during formation organization purposes and wanted to inquire if anyone else had a need for something like this. There is really no purpose for these outside of multiplayer. Still, if you'd like these to be provided then please roger-up. 9 3
BMA_FlyingShark Posted December 18, 2020 Posted December 18, 2020 21 minutes ago, DetCord12B said: Still, if you'd like these to be provided then please roger-up. Roger up for me please. Have a nice day. 1
DetCord12B Posted December 19, 2020 Author Posted December 19, 2020 Sorry it took so long. I had the older versions and had to wait until someone from the MP group got back to me as I no longer have the PSD, for whatever reason. 6 2
FTC_Snowy Posted December 21, 2020 Posted December 21, 2020 Excellent work DetCord. These are amazing. 1
DetCord12B Posted December 23, 2020 Author Posted December 23, 2020 (edited) 91st Troop Carrier Squadron (Band of Brothers Edition) added. I redid the invasion stripes from scratch as the white and black segments were just too extreme with regards to RGB values, moved the fuselage roundels to the correct position, added additional weathering (nothing extreme though), custom alpha map for each bird, individual stick markings (inc. Lt. Winters aircraft L4-E), and nose art for the one that had it. I do kinda feel like I spent too much time on these as A) They're not flyable and B) We're not getting any paratrooper models for them. Still, one of you might be able to use these in a mission. Edited December 24, 2020 by DetCord12B 11 3 2
Moderators CLOD AWC Posted December 24, 2020 Moderators CLOD Posted December 24, 2020 4 hours ago, DetCord12B said: 91st Troop Carrier Squadron (Band of Brothers Edition) added. I redid the invasion stripes from scratch as the white and black segments were just too extreme with regards to RGB values, moved the fuselage roundels to the correct position, added additional weathering (nothing extreme though), custom alpha map for each bird, individual stick markings (inc. Lt. Winters aircraft L4-E), and nose art for the one that had it. I do kinda feel like I spent too much time on these as A) They're not flyable and B) We're not getting any paratrooper models for them. Still, one of you might be able to use these in a mission. These are great I will definitely be using them. Also, as far as I know we are getting paras. We are waiting on the devs to say more on this. 1
DetCord12B Posted December 24, 2020 Author Posted December 24, 2020 @Lemsip You sure? I distinctly remember a post in the Normandy discussion thread stating that they weren't going to do them.
1CGS LukeFF Posted December 24, 2020 1CGS Posted December 24, 2020 Paras for the C-47 are coming, yes: 1 2
DetCord12B Posted December 24, 2020 Author Posted December 24, 2020 (edited) 37 minutes ago, LukeFF said: Paras for the C-47 are coming, yes: Thanks for the info, Luke. Can anyone identify this unique tail band? Edited December 24, 2020 by DetCord12B
356thFS_Melonfish Posted December 24, 2020 Posted December 24, 2020 4 hours ago, DetCord12B said: Thanks for the info, Luke. Can anyone identify this unique tail band? Looks like JG51 painted backwards tbh, 301 wore yellow and red tail bands.
sevenless Posted December 25, 2020 Posted December 25, 2020 (edited) On 12/24/2020 at 3:44 AM, DetCord12B said: Can anyone identify this unique tail band? Without having seen the original photo, I guess it is a misinterpretation of grey shades of the b/w photo. Already happened multiple times in the past. This is what Falkeeins has to say about it: http://falkeeins.blogspot.com/2015/04/iiijg-301-fw-190-8.html Edited December 25, 2020 by sevenless 3
DetCord12B Posted December 25, 2020 Author Posted December 25, 2020 He states that he doesn't think that a color band is present and that it's instead RLM 74. Problem is, there is a distinct RBG/hue shift in that tail band that's different from the fuselage spine camo. I also found a version in red as opposed to green. Anyway, here's what a quick pass in AI colorization rendered.
sevenless Posted December 27, 2020 Posted December 27, 2020 (edited) On 12/25/2020 at 7:25 PM, DetCord12B said: Without precise context of said photo, I don´t think we will be able to solve that mystery. All available pics of JG 301 (and there are plenty) show either this kind of tail band or an inverted form. Slight update to JG 301 late markings - Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum (12oclockhigh.net) Edited December 27, 2020 by sevenless
DetCord12B Posted December 27, 2020 Author Posted December 27, 2020 Right, but that's JG 301's unit Reichsverteidigung band. Falkeeins and other sources mention that the one pictured is specific to the aircraft and pilot occupying the Schwarmführer billet. Either way, it isn't JG 301's band, that's for sure.
sevenless Posted December 27, 2020 Posted December 27, 2020 (edited) 23 minutes ago, DetCord12B said: Right, but that's JG 301's unit Reichsverteidigung band. Falkeeins and other sources mention that the one pictured is specific to the aircraft and pilot occupying the Schwarmführer billet. Either way, it isn't JG 301's band, that's for sure. I read that bit about the Schwarmfuehrer band. I have never ever seen one. Not even the Schutzschwarm of JV44 had something like that, not to mention Sachsenbergs No.1 plane. What we have, though, is an order by Galland, dated 03/09/1943, which you can find here: The Luftwaffe Over Germany: Defense of the Reich - Donald Caldwell, Richard Muller - Google Books No.9 provision: Which indeed was used in practice. See, amongst others, the well documented planes of Hermann Graf JGr.50, or Anton Hackl III./JG 11 Edited December 27, 2020 by sevenless
MarcoPegase44 Posted December 30, 2020 Posted December 30, 2020 On 12/25/2020 at 7:25 PM, DetCord12B said: He states that he doesn't think that a color band is present and that it's instead RLM 74. Problem is, there is a distinct RBG/hue shift in that tail band that's different from the fuselage spine camo. I also found a version in red as opposed to green. Anyway, here's what a quick pass in AI colorization rendered. Hello, Very nice result of AI colorization. What software are you using? For my part, I have very unequal results depending on the software. thank you so much
Bremspropeller Posted December 31, 2020 Posted December 31, 2020 The Band isn't braod enough to be a normal run-of-the-mill RVT-Band. Also, the Band shown in the picture is slant, while a proper RVT-Band is parallel to the panel-line aft of the Balkenkreuz. 1
DetCord12B Posted January 1, 2021 Author Posted January 1, 2021 On 12/27/2020 at 1:00 PM, sevenless said: I read that bit about the Schwarmfuehrer band. I have never ever seen one. Not even the Schutzschwarm of JV44 had something like that, not to mention Sachsenbergs No.1 plane. What we have, though, is an order by Galland, dated 03/09/1943, which you can find here: The Luftwaffe Over Germany: Defense of the Reich - Donald Caldwell, Richard Muller - Google Books No.9 provision: Which indeed was used in practice. See, amongst others, the well documented planes of Hermann Graf JGr.50, or Anton Hackl III./JG 11 SOP's, orders, and standards change all the time. As someone that has spent most of their life in the military I can easily attest to that fact. Considering that that order is from '43, I highly doubt it was applicable later on. Hell, Provision 9 was all but abandoned or in mixed use by mid-late '44 as evident by all the data and renders currently available. Not to mention that JG's often adopted their own marking schemes given specific AO's and or operational requirements. On 12/30/2020 at 10:52 AM, MarcoPegase44 said: Hello, Very nice result of AI colorization. What software are you using? For my part, I have very unequal results depending on the software. thank you so much I ran it through PSAI first with mixed results though it did render a green and white band. I then sent it to a buddy who uses AI software professionally and he in turn sent that back to me. 16 hours ago, Bremspropeller said: The Band isn't braod enough to be a normal run-of-the-mill RVT-Band. Also, the Band shown in the picture is slant, while a proper RVT-Band is parallel to the panel-line aft of the Balkenkreuz. Exactly. It most certainly isn't JG 301's band and is actually something unique to that unit.
Bremspropeller Posted January 1, 2021 Posted January 1, 2021 DetCord, acc Rodeike (p. 298), this is an aircraft of 10./JG 301 (WNr 681992) "red 11": The markings are two white rings, allegedly identifying a flight-leader in that unit.
sevenless Posted January 1, 2021 Posted January 1, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, DetCord12B said: SOP's, orders, and standards change all the time. As someone that has spent most of their life in the military I can easily attest to that fact. Considering that that order is from '43, I highly doubt it was applicable later on. Hell, Provision 9 was all but abandoned or in mixed use by mid-late '44 as evident by all the data and renders currently available. Not to mention that JG's often adopted their own marking schemes given specific AO's and or operational requirements. Certainly. However without evidence about the context all else remains speculation. There is a hint however on 12´o´clock high forum which suggests that it might have been an singular experimental marking. That would explain the fact that we don´t find that marking documented on photos somewhere else. Schwarmführer fuselage band JG 301 [Archive] - Luftwaffe and Allied Air Forces Discussion Forum (12oclockhigh.net) Even Rodeike is not sure about the exact purpose and writes "angeblich" - "eng. allegedly" Edited January 1, 2021 by sevenless
Hien-0_1* Posted January 1, 2021 Posted January 1, 2021 Perhaps it is a painting over of an existing marking from the aircraft inventory of another unit. In this way one could have avoided wrong group membership & at the same time created an individual marking for relay leaders. In the final phase of the war one also improvised! There are also color interpretations with a red central stripe that seem more likely to me. According to Rodeike: red 11 / here black! why should that be green then? Sorry, very questionable!
Bremspropeller Posted January 1, 2021 Posted January 1, 2021 The pilot's jackets are supposed to be ~seal brown, not black, too.
Hien-0_1* Posted January 1, 2021 Posted January 1, 2021 An info! Found this report from an eyewitness (Luftwaffe): https://forums-de.ubisoft.com/archive/index.php/t-70861.html JG26_kama1 27-07-07, 14:50 ... "So beliebt waren Rumpfbänder ja nicht wirklich... nicht bei allen. man wollte sich nicht zu sehr zeigen. Das Selbstbewustsein litt Ende des Krieges. Keine persönlichen markierungen, keine Abschussbalken, keine besonderheiten, um als atraktives Ziel zu dienen, wie zbsp ganz weisse Heckflosse der Verbandsführer 1943-Anfang44(seltener)... ebenso wars auch mit den Stabszeichen.... es sollte halt nicht jeder Gegner wissen, dass man hier als Experte und Führer rumgondelt." ... (Trunk belts weren't really that popular ... not with everyone. you didn't want to show yourself too much. Self-confidence suffered at the end of the war. No personal markings, no launch bars, no special features to serve as an attractive target, such as the very white tail fin of the association leaders 1943-early 44 (more rarely) ... just as it was with the staff mark ... not every opponent should know that you are gondola around here as an expert and guide.). it is an online transate translation! and/or: https://rhorta.home.xs4all.nl/jgmark2.htm "When the fighter units defending the Reich were reorganized in October, 1944, the use of the fuselage band increased. Because of the limited number of basic colors , a two-color and three-color bands were soon needed in order to have a distinctive and unique color combination for all the various Geschwader. JG300 and JG301 switched from the solid color rust red to the more distinctive blue-white-blue and yellow red combinations more commonly associated with these units. This is the generally accepted assignment of band colors (as ordered 20-2-45). However not all the units have been verified as using these bands!" 1 1
DetCord12B Posted January 25, 2021 Author Posted January 25, 2021 @Semml and others. These were requested from the WitW mod as a separate download. You'll find them on the main page. Spoiler 3 1 2
imanuthep Posted January 26, 2021 Posted January 26, 2021 Great adition Detcord has there is not that many G14 and as usual, your skins are very nice... I'll try again my little request : do you think you could skin a skinpack of hurricanes MkII from the RAF (period 41-42 ETO) they could fit perfectly with the reihland map and even more with the future Normandy one.... thanks
DetCord12B Posted January 30, 2021 Author Posted January 30, 2021 On 1/26/2021 at 5:24 AM, imanuthep said: Great adition Detcord has there is not that many G14 and as usual, your skins are very nice... I'll try again my little request : do you think you could skin a skinpack of hurricanes MkII from the RAF (period 41-42 ETO) they could fit perfectly with the reihland map and even more with the future Normandy one.... thanks Do you have a specific example?
imanuthep Posted January 31, 2021 Posted January 31, 2021 hello Detcord... I don't have any specific unit in my mind but I was thinking of units that particpated to the circus offensive.... hurribomber were part of this mission and it could be useful to design mission over the Low countries or, for the future, above Normandy here is an example : http://armahobbynews.pl/wp-content/uploads/70042-profile-1-blog-1200x640.jpg oops I've made a mistake and the picture didn't show : there is a lot more information about that plane on this site : http://armahobbynews.pl/en/blog/2020/10/05/hurribomber-mk-iib-from-174-squadron-raf/ 1
DetCord12B Posted February 2, 2021 Author Posted February 2, 2021 On 1/31/2021 at 5:48 AM, imanuthep said: hello Detcord... I don't have any specific unit in my mind but I was thinking of units that particpated to the circus offensive.... hurribomber were part of this mission and it could be useful to design mission over the Low countries or, for the future, above Normandy here is an example : http://armahobbynews.pl/wp-content/uploads/70042-profile-1-blog-1200x640.jpg oops I've made a mistake and the picture didn't show : there is a lot more information about that plane on this site : http://armahobbynews.pl/en/blog/2020/10/05/hurribomber-mk-iib-from-174-squadron-raf/ I started on your request. It's gonna take some time with regards to the nose stripes due to the way the texture mapping on the forward fuselage. So, quite a bit of trial and error.
imanuthep Posted February 2, 2021 Posted February 2, 2021 Cool and thanks.... on my side of the Atlantic, I'm working on the Bf109F2 (I had to stop, I have many problems with my computer right now) and I'll make some skins for the ETO soon - (before that russian front)
CUJO_1970 Posted February 2, 2021 Posted February 2, 2021 Detcord who is the dude in your avatar, he looks way familiar?
DetCord12B Posted February 3, 2021 Author Posted February 3, 2021 @CUJO_1970 It's Adam King and the geniuses over at Viva La Dirt League from their FPS Logic series. I just Photoshoped his head onto an IL-2 dynamic career avatar, the one that pops up when creating your character. 2 1
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