DD_Arthur Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 Shameless In a good way Yeah for the Hurricane...the plane that saved Moscow 1
Lusekofte Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 Yeah for the Hurricane...the plane that saved Moscow Eh.....WHAT? Kidding?
56RAF_Roblex Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 I don't think it is fair to write off the hurricane as ugly & useless, even when you are voting 'Yes' and saying you will probably buy it then not fly it. In the BoB each hurricane shot down more enemy aircraft on average than the more glamorous Spitfire. Let me say that in another way; Hurricanes shot down more enemies during the Battle Of Britain than spitfires did and that still holds true even if you adjust for the fact that there were more hurricanes than spits. There is more to being a successful and effective fighter than being pretty & graceful. On top of that, the hurricane was much better than the spitfire at ground attack and that is the core of BoX. Larger bomb capacity, more accurate delivery, anti-tank cannons. In the Storm Of War server on CLoD where each squadron was allocated a restricted amount of Spits & Hurris, many squadrons gave their spitfires away to other squadrons in return for extra hurricanes and flew them exclusively. Those squadrons had some of the best K/D ratios on the server. If I was in a server that restricted its aircraft to BoM era aircraft I would choose the Hurri over the Mig-3 & I-16 and so would the rest of my squadron and I suspect so would many other squads. Yes in the BoB they rarely had to fight anything more advanced than a 109 E4 and the BoM era included 109 e7s but flown properly they would still win many fights as well as decimating ground targets in a way the Mig & I-16 cannot then fly home with damage that would have destroyed the Migs & I-16s.
216th_Lucas_From_Hell Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 I'd like the Hurricane but only when the appropriate theatre comes along - Leningrad or Murmansk. I very much doubt that either will come in the short term so as things are other aircraft will be better additions. The Hurricane would be out of place over Stalingrad or Krasnodar, and the ones to arrive near Moscow came after the front had calmed down there. 1
DD_Arthur Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 Kidding? Welllllll.......just trying to stimulate the debate. . In terms of the Battle of Moscow the Hurricane played a major role and is the glaring ommission from the plane set. Crap plane or not, it really would be nice to have it.
216th_Lucas_From_Hell Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 Only two regiments of the Kalinin front received them in January of 1942, and these only entered combat in March.
DD_Arthur Posted September 28, 2017 Posted September 28, 2017 Only two regiments of the Kalinin front received them in January of 1942, and these only entered combat in March. From someone in marketing your not helping here Lucas!
216th_Lucas_From_Hell Posted September 29, 2017 Posted September 29, 2017 (edited) My friend, marketing is all about the right approach! Get some community map makers (the technology is open and the same from RoF) to build a nice map of a relatively empty and simple area of Northern Africa, then sell a package with the map plus a third party Hurricane Mk II, a CR.42 and a few British ground vehicles. Other US/UK/LW aircraft from the game then get one tropical modification as needed and you have yourself an almost full-fledged MTO right there. Edited September 29, 2017 by 216th_Lucas_From_Hell
HeavyCavalrySgt Posted September 29, 2017 Posted September 29, 2017 That picture made me wonder what the inside of a Hurricane's wing looked like. With that thick wing, it is really very roomy. I am a 'yes' by the way.
DD_Arthur Posted September 29, 2017 Posted September 29, 2017 (edited) build a nice map of a relatively empty and simple area of Northern Africa,............................. and you have yourself an almost full-fledged MTO right there. Ummmm..nope. What you've got there is a north african theatre. Lets leave that to Team Fusion. What I'm hoping for - in the medium term - is a couple of pacific maps followed by the invasion of Sicily and/or Italy. Thats the way to a fully-fledged MTO. With the coming G6 we already have the LW plane set for the summer of '43. The devs can give us the map, a couple of British carriers and battlewagons, turn the Spit mk.V into the Seafire III, make an early P47 and P38 and the axis can have a proper Italian plane set with that fantastic 3 engine torpedo bomber-thingy. What could go wrong? Oops! Apologies for the thread de-rail Yeah for the Hurricane! #2 Edited September 29, 2017 by DD_Arthur 1
Trooper117 Posted September 29, 2017 Posted September 29, 2017 A desert map doesn't have to be accurate or historical, it's just the terrain that's needed, much like the old IL2 maps we used to have... they were very popular online. We already have many aircraft that could be used on it. And no, lets not leave it up to TF.... Many of us like and prefer the feeling of flight in 'this' game. I have CloD, I support TF and think they are doing great things with it, and yes, I will buy their Med expansion when it comes out, but CloD is a different beast to the BoS series and a desert map done by a 3rd party would go down a storm I'm sure 2
Cybermat47 Posted September 29, 2017 Posted September 29, 2017 Only two regiments of the Kalinin front received them in January of 1942, and these only entered combat in March. The most recent DD says that the Moscow campaign will go into April, so there will be some scope to use them
Lusekofte Posted September 29, 2017 Posted September 29, 2017 Welllllll.......just trying to stimulate the debate. . In terms of the Battle of Moscow the Hurricane played a major role and is the glaring ommission from the plane set. Crap plane or not, it really would be nice to have it. Well I never knew, so for me this was new. I read a article about the British squad based in Murmansk teaching the Russian about the Hurricane. They flew sorties with success and the only ones killed was two ground crews. They hung on the tail of the Hurricane while taxiing because of the bad mud, One pilot forgot they where there and took off with them still hanging over the tail. Both fell to their death and are buried in Murmansk the article showed the grave stone , it is well taken care of, The Russian people are clever taking care of the heroes from the war
Bullets Posted September 29, 2017 Author Posted September 29, 2017 Well we can only hope its introduced one day!
Bullets Posted November 22, 2017 Author Posted November 22, 2017 With all the talk about requests for b25's & b17's I hope you guys haven't forgot about this beauty!! I know I haven't
ATAG_Flare Posted January 3, 2018 Posted January 3, 2018 I'd fly the heck out of the Hurry on the early war maps. 1
Beazil Posted January 3, 2018 Posted January 3, 2018 Solid gun platform, and it always looks wonderful on fire and missing a wing. I would definitely buy.
Trooper117 Posted January 6, 2018 Posted January 6, 2018 (edited) We need this aircraft! Well, it's a MkI, but you get the idea... Edited January 6, 2018 by Trooper117
=gRiJ=Roman- Posted April 10, 2018 Posted April 10, 2018 I made a new poll to see if this plane can beat the other candidates ....
ATAG_Flare Posted May 1, 2018 Posted May 1, 2018 Apparently the Russians even armed some of their Hurris with 12.7mm UBs or even ShVAKs! Now those would be fun to see. This picture seems to have one armed with 2 UBs and 2 ShVAKs. 1
Diggun Posted May 1, 2018 Posted May 1, 2018 On 28/09/2017 at 10:48 PM, 56RAF_Roblex said: Hurricanes shot down more enemies during the Battle Of Britain than spitfires did and that still holds true even if you adjust for the fact that there were more hurricanes than spits. This. The Hurricane actually accounted for 2/3rds of ALL RAF air to air victories between 1939-1945. Which is pretty impressive when you think that it's last major operational use in the western ETO (as a strike aircraft) was in 1943.
Roast Posted May 5, 2018 Posted May 5, 2018 (edited) On 5/1/2018 at 5:09 PM, ATAG_Flare said: Apparently the Russians even armed some of their Hurris with 12.7mm UBs or even ShVAKs! Now those would be fun to see. This picture seems to have one armed with 2 UBs and 2 ShVAKs. Oh Yes, gimme that version! Looks like this Hurri is also carrying rockets. Now I want that as well Edited May 5, 2018 by Roast
Bremspropeller Posted July 1, 2018 Posted July 1, 2018 IL-2 Forgotten Battles had a couple of Hurricane IIs (including the soviet field mod Version). I'd be in for a Mk IIc or IId and generally for all Hurribomber action. Also, I'm into fun stuff, so a Sea Hurricane or (heavy breathing) a Hurricat would be most interesting to me. The latter two may be part of the fictional title "BoA -Battle of the Atlantic". Protagonists would be the Ju 88C (and Fw 200 as AI) on one side and boatloads of Coastal Command airplanes (Beaufighter, Mosquito) and FAA/ Merchant Fighters on the other. One can dream, right?
BladeMeister Posted July 25, 2018 Posted July 25, 2018 How do we not already have this plane in the Eastern Front??? Come On Jason!!! S!Blade<>< 2
BladeMeister Posted July 25, 2018 Posted July 25, 2018 35 minutes ago, OrLoK said: Let em get all the planned content out first Nope, I want it NOW!!!? S!Blade<>< 1
Rafcio Posted July 25, 2018 Posted July 25, 2018 On 5/1/2018 at 5:09 PM, ATAG_Flare said: Apparently the Russians even armed some of their Hurris with 12.7mm UBs or even ShVAKs! Now those would be fun to see. This picture seems to have one armed with 2 UBs and 2 ShVAKs. This 12,7 mm was not UBS but UBK. UBS was a synchronized version (like in Jak - 1b), UBT for turrets , UBK installed in the wing . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berezin_UB
ATAG_Flare Posted August 12, 2018 Posted August 12, 2018 On 7/25/2018 at 12:49 PM, RAFCIO13 said: This 12,7 mm was not UBS but UBK. UBS was a synchronized version (like in Jak - 1b), UBT for turrets , UBK installed in the wing . https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berezin_UB Haha, when I said "UBs" the "s" was meant to mean "multiple UB machine guns" not the S type of the gun. I didn't even know they had multiple types of UB guns!
KG_S_Kalle_Kalutz82 Posted August 17, 2018 Posted August 17, 2018 Just my few cents here..... : If there would ever be a map, or maybe even without (Leningrad) - why not a Hurricane to the Eastern Theatre? When as a collector plane, you might fly it for the finnish air force, or as lend-lease for the soviet air force.
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