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Hawker Hurricane: Collector Plane??

Hawker Hurricane: Collector Plane  

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  1. 1. Would you like the Hawker Hurricane to be added as a Collector Plane

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    • No
      68


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Hurricane is THE WW1 plane for me for some reason (soft spot for workhorse types, I guess). So yes, yes, yes.

(As of scenery, I'll say it again and again, 1CGS has the RoF Channel Map just waiting to be ported and fed to the mission builders). 

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Id like to have it in game,ofcourse.And not only hurri,but also other dozens of aircrafts.

But being realistic and thinking of assets available now/or in near future (Odessa map),more suitable bundle for me would be IAR-80/81+I-153.

And to somehow put a nice end to 1943-44 eastern front before getting our feet wet in Pacific, Bf-109G-6 + La-5FN.

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No plane is useless when it can generate income for the devs, and makes fun to fly. So the series can life on a bit easier and maybe the income can provide us an even nicer pacific theater later.

 

I would even go so far to ask for a Me-410, a plane that was never realy adressed in flightsims and could be very interesting to have it ingame. Priced similar to the Ju-52

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Vote vote vote  :happy:

 

Okay looking at this statistically as of writing this there are 85 votes for yes, lets assume the hurri entered development thats pretty much 85 confirmed sales already , 85 x 19.99 = 1699.15 dollars. Thats as a minimum for only 85 sales, obviously there would be LOADS more easy money here devs  :salute:  :biggrin:

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The question is not whether I'd like to see it, I'd love to see ALL planes. The question is at what cost? Delayed pacific? What else would we be missing out on if they made this and other collector planes?

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The question is not whether I'd like to see it, I'd love to see ALL planes. The question is at what cost? Delayed pacific? What else would we be missing out on if they made this and other collector planes?

 

It could be argued that getting collector planes does not equal missing out on anything - it simply means more planes for us and more money for the developers, which they can use to make and sell more planes.

 

From a mercenary/business point of view, one wonders how much cash would flow if the developers offered a few highly desirable collectors planes over the next few months. Maybe the cash input would more than pay for the effort required, and there could be a profit. Now, I don't know what it costs or how long it takes to make a sim plane, but it must be profitable on some level or none of this would be happening.

 

I don't see more collector planes as being anything other than unavoidable.

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It's a small team. The short term cost is time. Time, however, becomes a major cost in bringing full expansions (BOK, BOMI) to market. That loss of revenue and confidence from both the community and investors becomes exponential in the long run.

 

 

....I still voted yes.

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The question is not whether I'd like to see it, I'd love to see ALL planes. The question is at what cost? Delayed pacific? What else would we be missing out on if they made this and other collector planes?

 

From Jason's plea for help and assistance regarding the Pacific side of things, it may well be delayed anyway... if that happens, the last thing the dev's would want is any kind of halt on funding.

Collector planes and extra maps could be a way of maintaining cash flow until the pacific side of things is ready to progress.

 

As long as they keep producing material, I don't care how or in what direction they go to be honest.

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As long as they keep producing material, I don't care how or in what direction they go to be honest.

 

Indeed. More planes and more maps.

 

And for the love of god, a mission editor that doesn't make you feel like you're doing algebra on a Saturday night while everyone else is out partying.  :excl:

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And for the love of god, a mission editor that doesn't make you feel like you're doing algebra on a Saturday night while everyone else is out partying.  :excl:

 

It's not going to change.

While the editor is certainly not going to mesh with everyone's brain, (just like Algebra might not, even if you're quite intelligent) for many it just takes some time commitment to get 'over the hump' and then it starts getting fun

and you can be productive with it.

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It's not going to change.

While the editor is certainly not going to mesh with everyone's brain, (just like Algebra might not, even if you're quite intelligent) for many it just takes some time commitment to get 'over the hump' and then it starts getting fun

and you can be productive with it.

 

Being stubborn beyond my years, I just don't think I will mesh with it. It might be the world's best developer's tool, but it is a terrible mission editor for the general player. It's outside the game and anachronistically complicated (it might as well be in DOS). I've made countless hundreds of missions in a bunch of different flightsims over the past 20 years, and it's very possible I will never make even one in this sim, just as I never made a single mission in RoF.

 

I do not believe I am in the wrong here, I think the mission editor in both sims is very poorly done as far as the player/user experience goes. I could live with this if the QMB was not a meatless and anemic canvas, but it is. And for the life of me I cannot understand why the top shelf WWII flightsim has such a manifestly poor interface for the user to have to suffer to build a mission or enjoy a quick flight and fight.

 

That said, outside of those two things I think this is a fantastic flightsim. I just dropped $96 CDN the other day to buy BOK, so I'd like to think my (continuing) rant was somewhat paid for. ;)

 

Oh, and I want a Hurricane and I'll be happy to pay for it. :biggrin:

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Thing with the editor is, once you build a group to say make a flight take off, fly a few waypoints and land, you never have to build that group again.

You simply save the group, and paste into another mission and adjust the waypoints, etc.

 

Same with vehicle groups, etc. Escort flights, scenery flights, base AA...pasted from groups you already built and adjusted as necessary.

A front line battle can be pasted in from your groups library, and like the above, just adjusted as needed. 

You couldn't paste at all in the old editor, which was a royal pain in the arse.

 

Yeah it's bogus in some ways. No undo function, no layer functionality, it get's unstable after updates sometimes, it needs lots if "quality of life" improvements...but it's POWERFUL. and that's the thing here.

Those other editors you speak of couldn't do what this one can. At the expense of fewer users being able to figure it out, those that take the time can create better content.

I personally used the Falcon 4.0 editor and the old IL2 editor extensively.

 

The salient point here however is that you build up a Groups library, and it's basically building blocks from there. 

Don't get me wrong, it still takes a F$&@ load of time to build, choreograph and add scenery to make a top drawer immersive mission, but it did in the old editor too.

It took me maybe 3 to 8 hours to build a good mission in the old IL2, it takes me maybe 12-15 in this editor...but I can get it to do a whole lot more than the old editor.

There's just no comparison.

 

I could get you up and running, even explain the basic logic over the phone with the editor open, looking at a few reference groups etc if you're ever interested.

Really, once you get a grip on the basic logic...the way the editor 'thinks'....it's easy peasy.

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I certainly do appreciate your good attitude and friendliness in the face of my ranting. :)

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I voted yes. More planes = Good. Would I fly it? Guess it would depend on my mood but probably. Not a first choice for when I fly VVS, but I'd fly it. There is a much better chance of my flying a Hurri then there is my flying the P40. ;)

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I'd buy it. The more aircraft the better. Besides, I really don't like Russian ww2 aircraft, western aircraft are where my interest are.

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All I can think is that since there has been no "no" from Jason or other Devs that developing the Hurri could be a possibility? :blink:  :huh:

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All I can think is that since there has been no "no" from Jason or other Devs that developing the Hurri could be a possibility? :blink:  :huh:

 

I'm not sure that's quite the way this works...

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I'm not sure that's quite the way this works...

 

Why not? This is has been a pretty popular thread and they have most likely seen it? If it wasn't in their plans they would probably say  :)  :salute:

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Why not? This is has been a pretty popular thread and they have most likely seen it? If it wasn't in their plans they would probably say  :)  :salute:

 

Because it's not Jason's habit to get on here and refute/confirm every notion or suggestion that comes up that's why - he'd get nothing else done.

As Hoots said that's just not how it works.

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Devs, in general are wary of giving *any* information as "we" can get very grumpy if something doesnt go to plan/is delayed/is a tiny amount different than expected.

 

Not hearing anything doesnt "prove" anything one way or the other Im afraid :)

 

For me, the hurry is a pipe dream, a wish.

 

We've let the devs know its a popular crate but its up to them as to what to do next if time/budget/circumstance allow.

 

Lets keep our fingers crossed though!

 

:salute:

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If there is a mosquito, there should BE A LANCASTER

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Seen historically and based on sheer numbers, there should be a Hurri flying for the VVS, but as to gameplay, I seriously doubt it could add anything to what we already have. I simply don't see the role where the Hurri would be a better choice than another VVS aircraft. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I voted with 'no' anyway. As someone remarked earlier, if I want to fly a Hurri, I fire up CLOD, but I don't feel any urgent need to have it also in the BoX universe.

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If there is a mosquito, there should BE A LANCASTER

If there is a Lancaster then we need a Ju88 C-6 and an He219. So, I support your plan!

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 if I want to fly a Hurri, I fire up CLOD, but I don't feel any urgent need to have it also in the BoX universe.

 

I have CloD and the BoS series, both good games.

However, for me, the feeling of flight in BoS is far better... So, a Hurricane in BoS is a must have, not just 'fire up CloD' to get that Hurri experience.

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Hurri was displaying at Weston Supermare Airshow today!  :biggrin:  She was a beauty, got some pics and footage will upload soon  :salute:  There was also a P51 which I had never seen fly before and OH MY the sound that thing made my prostate tingle :o:  Again I got footage and will upload it soon  :)  :salute:

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Would buy, like any products they may come up with to support the financial war effort.

 

Moreover I think it might be a good addition to the serie, with a good potential in scenario construction.

 

Would I fly it ? No, like all fighters they will take rust and dust in the back of my hangar.

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I honestly wish they would port the channel map from RoF to box. Plop in a few fields and you have a map well enough for a decent BoB solution. But politics being what they are. CLod still has a seat at the table. And its a fun sim.

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Hurri was displaying at Weston Supermare Airshow today! :biggrin: She was a beauty, got some pics and footage will upload soon :salute: There was also a P51 which I had never seen fly before and OH MY the sound that thing made my prostate tingle :o: Again I got footage and will upload it soon :):salute:

They have an air show in Weston? I used to live there it's a very nice town. My wife is there now visiting old friends and checking if we would like to come back there to live again.

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They have an air show in Weston? I used to live there it's a very nice town. My wife is there now visiting old friends and checking if we would like to come back there to live again.

Yeah every year it's a good day out as long as it's sunny aha.

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