Aircraft Wish List

[XQ_Lothar29]

Bf109 G6 or G10

Fw189

Fw190 A8

Fi156

Me262

 

VVS

 

SB-2

TB-3

Hawker Hurricane 

 

USAF

 

B-17

P-47

P-38

B-25

F4F

F6F

F4U

 

IJN

 

Ki 43

A6M/2/x/x/x

Ki 61

D3A Val

G4M Betty

 

All WWII Airplanes is so Beautifull!

[A-E-Hartmann]

Luftwaffe :

 

BF109G10 and K

Fw190D-9/ 11

Me-262A-1

Me-410 Hornisse

Do-217

Ta-152

 

 

Japan:

 

A6M52 Zero

Ki-61

Ki-44

Aichi E13A1 

Aichi B7A

D3A1

G4M1

 

 USAAF:

 

B-17

B-24

P-51B/D

P-47D

F4U Corsair

F6F hellcat

F4F3

SBD-2

Edited April 2, 2017 by A-E-Hartmann

[I./ZG1_Radick]

Do17 and IL4

[Heliopause]

 

[PatCartier]

Hayabusas vs Flying Sharks is a great duel indeed !

 

PS: MB150 is not german but french. None of them were fighting for Luftwaffe

Edited April 11, 2017 by PatCartier

[HBPencil]

No disrespect to the OP but I must admit there are no options in either the Axis or Allied lists that I'd go for insofar as they all seem to be 'nice to have' rather than 'need to have'* except for the F4F/SBD/TBD trio which would be a safe bet for inclusion in BoMidway anyway.

So... in a perfect world I'd like to the Hs123 and I-153 coz biplane shenanigans


*Being a balance between historical accuracy, side balance and general fun.

[NETSCAPE]

FW 189

 

^^^ I AGEE! We need recon missions!

[Scojo]

I hate to say it, not only have I gotten a little burnt out on the current plane set, but I'm also a US fanboi. I'm on the edge of my seat for the P-39 and A-20.

 

Some Recon planes sound pretty neat, though. I 100% agree with the FW-189. Such an interesting aircraft.

 

Maybe it's time I mix things up and yomp around in the JU-52.

[Wolferl_1791]

No Romanian IAR 80? It was used in the Eastern Theater a lot and it was comparable to a BF109 in performance. 

Other than that, I'd say Hs123 and I-15. Lovely little planes. 

[=TBAS=Sshadow14]

Horten 229 should never be added..

It never flew
No test were ever simulated to see if it even would fly.

WT completely got this model wrong and it does not fly like a flying wing should.
 

[Inzane1]

Missing the Bf109 K4

 

 

Edited May 1, 2017 by Inzane1

[Dutchvdm]

Because i'm in a boring conference call...

 

- Hs-123 A-1

- Ju-87 B-2

- Tupolev SB

- I-153

- Yak-1 (1941)

- Bf-110 F-2

- Bf-109 G-6

- La-5F

[cashgrany]

I voted these 4 German planes (Arado Ar 234;Messerschmitt Me 163 Komet ;Messerschmitt Me 262 Schwalbe;Horten Ho 229) because it would be nice to show the German technologic advance,

but I will especially pray that you make the Horten HO 229;

I am in awe of this plane.

 

Edited September 5, 2020 by cashgrany

[cashgrany]

You can also add a very good ground attack element.

The Me 262 A1 / U4 (also called Me 262 U4 "Cannon bird")).

It would be really top.

[sevenless]

On 9/3/2020 at 4:46 PM, cashgrany said:

 

 

 

Reminds me of one of my favoite flight sims of my youth. SWOTL.

 

 

Man that was some fun. Add the P-80, the Do 335 and the He 162 on top and we might have a little ressurection party here.

 

 

 

[Talisman]

I voted Avro Lancaster, to represent the bomber with with the biggest conventional payload for the Allied side in Europe and also a very common bomber. 

 

Correct me if I am wrong, but I think that the common Axis bombers with the biggest conventional payloads are represented in the game, however the Allied side only get their small bombers and smaller payloads. 

 

The Axis side have their Me 262 jet which is faster than anything on the Allied side and a clear advantage on that score, however the Allied side are currently denied the bigger bombers and payload, which was their advantage.  To be fair, the Axis Arado bomber should not be introduced before the Avro Lancaster for the Allied side or this would follow the trend of the Axis bomber capability being more fully represented in the historical sense and the Allied side historical bomber capability being neglected and not represented as it was. 

 

It is a great shame to see the strength of the Allied bomber capability not represented by this combat this simulation.  There appears to be a big effort to represent the Axis common air power capabilities, whilst the Allied common air power capabilities appear to be being neglected.  

 

Happy landings,

 

56RAF_Talisman  

[Enceladus828]

We need a Lancaster more than any bomber in this game (okay. Save for a Russian bomber). Same goes with the IL-2 Dover series as in what other game has the Lancaster as flyable or AI?

[cashgrany]

I do not agree LukeFF ;  it is not because it is a prototype that it does not have it placed in the simulator.

He would make a very good anti-tank asset.

Me 262 A1 / U4 is a real tank killer (best of the best  xD ).

I also like the Hs 129 B3 or the Ju 88 P-1.

Regarding the hs 229, Hs 129 b3 or the Ju 88 P-1 was present in 1946 he could do it again. : P

 

Thx Enceladus

 

For the AXIS !!

[vonGraf]

A flyable Defiant, yes. Would like to experiment how to attack with this plane. 

[cashgrany]

In other games it's a good experience. ?

[LukeFF]

11 hours ago, cashgrany said:

I do not agree LukeFF ;  it is not because it is a prototype that it does not have it placed in the simulator.

He would make a very good anti-tank asset.

Me 262 A1 / U4 is a real tank killer (best of the best  xD ).

 

Dude, they aren't going to put in an aircraft of which only 2 types were made - and which was meant to combat bombers, not tanks. There's another game out there that has no problem modeling unicorn, uber-rare prototypes if that is the thing you like.

[Enceladus828]

3 hours ago, LukeFF said:

and which was meant to combat bombers,

Thanks Luke. I never knew it was meant to combat bombers, always thought it was like the jet version of the Hs-129 and Ju-87 and Ju-88 tank buster version. 
Learn something new everyday.

 

Maybe once they’ve done everything they could make this version of the Me-262; would be more likely than making the Ho 229 and Hs 132.
 

Edited September 24, 2020 by Enceladus

[cashgrany]

I know I play xP there.

But LukeFF  I repeat I do not see any inconvenience in adding this kind of device.

Can be anti-bomber but very good light and medium anti-tank. : D

 

 

And then I want to remind you that he had four prototypes of heavy fighters, with a Rheinmetall BK-5 gun which was to be replaced by an MK 214A cannon.

Just to clarify.

 

For the AXIS.

Edited September 24, 2020 by cashgrany

[Gambit21]

11 hours ago, cashgrany said:

I know I play xP there.

But LukeFF  I repeat I do not see any inconvenience in adding this kind of device.

 

Then you’ve never been involved in game/content development, or 3D modeling, coding etc etc.

 

There is MASSIVE inconvenience to creating something like this when other more appropriate elements are in the pipeline - which is always.

[cashgrany]

If I model and code on dcs world, I have made several planes. There a prototype of ME 262.

well short Gambit21.

 

 

 

All this to say that I find these latest models very suitable for the development of IL 2 Sturmovik.

 

 

For AXIS. xP

Edited September 25, 2020 by cashgrany

[Enceladus828]

@LukeFF

Would you mind explaining why the devs decided to make the Macchi 202 for BoM then; considering the fact that it first arrived on the Eastern Front in August 1942 and saw limited action there?

The Macchi 200 would have been a better choice.

[cashgrany]

I can not answer your question, all that I would like him to exploit for the games is that the axis had a strong anti - air tank power and that I would like to see that in games.

If you like the Italian side I would like to see a Piaggio P.108A.

[LukeFF]

5 hours ago, Enceladus said:

Would you mind explaining why the devs decided to make the Macchi 202 for BoM then; considering the fact that it first arrived on the Eastern Front in August 1942 and saw limited action there?

 

Polls were conducted, and that's the plane people voted for.

[Gambit21]

8 hours ago, cashgrany said:

If I model and code on dcs world, I have made several planes. There a prototype of ME 262.

well short Gambit21.

 

 

 

All this to say that I find these latest models very suitable for the development of IL 2 Sturmovik.

 

 

For AXIS. xP

 

As a 3D aircraft modeler myself, I can determine very little from those screen shots - not that matters. Even if your model was up to snuff, now create the LOD’s and the damage model, and integrate it into the sim.

 

Like I said, huge task.

[cashgrany]

I am going to tell you Gambit21 ; personally I have been modeling and coding for video games for over ten years (dcs world, war thunder, Gta series, arma3, fallout 4, etc.) and I consider myself not bad in this branch and I persist and stick to my positions on work is not that huge. Personally in 7 years I made 14 complete 3d models for dcs world which are exceptional but which I unfortunately do not find perfect. The lods are childishly simple to make and the damage a few pieces that break and good textures ( photoshop or gimp) and voila. So a team that wants to make some models I will not explain how easy it is. Hold another photo of another model.

 

 

 

But always brief. I don't think you realize how easy it is for a team to make 3d models.

 

 

For the axis. xD

Edited September 26, 2020 by cashgrany

[Reggie_Mental]

19 hours ago, cashgrany said:

If you like the Italian side I would like to see a Piaggio P.108A.

Don't fancy its chances much up against a Yak.? 

 

 

Moving swiftly on...

I see the Narwhal had a strengthened nosewheel. No doubt necessitated by the extra weight out front of the 50mm cannon. Never noticed that before.

 

This would make an interesting modification in game although I don't think it would be any more effective than 4x30mm cannons. I think the LW wanted something that allowed them to open fire from outside the effective range of the bomber's .50MG, but found it was no better than the R4M or the 30mm and still required the pilot to close to the same range as before to be effective. It also affected the performance and handling negatively and made the aircraft a bit of a 'one trick pony' which went against LW policy and doctrine of all new types and variants being multi-role. 

Edited September 26, 2020 by Reggie_Mental

[Burdokva]

I keep wondering why aren't any of these wish list topics tending towards expanding the plane sets for the existing theaters of operations (expansion maps) and what is realistically achievable rather than the tired "wouldn't it be great if we had X in the sim".

 

Early Yak-1 and LaGG-3 series with the M-105PA engine, the late series Yak-7B bubble top with two 12,7mm machine guns. A late series La-5F bubble top with the revised engine cowling. Early model Focke-Wulf 190 F/Gs.

 

These are modifications of existing planes and require much less work than brand new ones.

 

New planes should be fixes to the most glaring omissions in the existing plane sets, such as the FW-189 Uhu that not only a beatifull plane that was supposedly a joy to fly but one that saw very extensive use on the Eastern Front. Il-4, the main bomber of the Soviet ADD (long range strategic bomber service) and Navy MTAPs (minelayer and torpedo bomber regiments) that flew hundreds of thousands of combat sorties in a variety of roles. How about those two, along with the recce versions of the Ju-88, Pe-2, Bf 109 and Yak-1/9, for a nee recontype of missions, maybe with a photocamera implemented?

 

If you want more 'exotic' stuff, there's that too. The Hs-123 that served until there were practically no airworthy planes left, and was present over the largest battles in the East, albeit in limited numbers. IAR-80/81, the mainstay of the Romanian fighter arm, that even saw fair amount of action against the 15th USAAF. The Beriev MBR-2 that served over the Baltic, Black and Barents Seas. The early Tu-2 bomber from the 1942 limited production run that was temporarily cancelled (until 1944) despite being outstanding.

 

As much as I love the MC.202, an MC.200 would have been far better as a lot more airframes did see far more combat for a longer period of time than its later DB-601 powered sibling. Another Italian design, the Reggiane Re.2000 in Hungarian service, also as Hungarian produced Hejas, would make sense and serve as a basis for other Reggiane versions in an MTO/Italy based expansion.

 

I expect (and hope) that various versions of existing planes such as the Bf 109G10, FW-190A-9/F-9, P-39Q, various P-40 models and Spitfire marks, the P-51A, etc. are planned for later expansions, so omitted them above.

 

Yes, I know, neither of these might sound as exciting as a jet fighter or one of the 'wonder weapon' late war designs but are planes that would add much needed diversity in the operational theaters we already have, have arguably had significant impact on the war effort for their respective operators, and (at least some) are feasible as they would be based on existing research/3d model/flight model/textures or serve as the basis for such in future expansions.

 

I guess I'm in the minority with this opinion, though.

Edited October 7, 2020 by Burdokva

[Gambit21]

[messsucher]

4 hours ago, Gambit21 said:

 

Woot woot, Zero coming???? ???????

[Gambit21]

Down the road I hope.

[Enceladus828]

On 9/25/2020 at 1:51 PM, LukeFF said:

 

Polls were conducted, and that's the plane people voted for.

Yeah...

I found that Poll; and at that time pretty much every battle/theatre was on the table for the devs to do. They didn't have to stick with the Eastern Front after BoS, they could have jumped to somewhere else, like MTO, remaking the Battle of Britain, or the Invasion of Poland, etc.

The original "sequel" for CloD was to be Moscow, far from the Battle of Britain and the RAF.

 

Anyway, I feel that the devs were better off making the MC.200 for BoM, and the MC.202 as an additional Collector plane.

 

P.S. I'd pick an IAR.80/81 for BoS any day over the MC.202 and possibly the Fw-190A-3

 

Thank you for reading what I have to say.

 

Edited October 8, 2020 by Enceladus

[DN308]

Well, to be honest, we have quite everything we need.

There are just few planes that are shamely missiong while playing a WW2 western front...

We need Typhoon, Mosquito, P-51 IB, flyable B-25 and A/B-26, C47 and that's it....

???

... HELLLLLL NOOOOOOO!!!!!

WE NEED BOMBERS!!!!!!!!

- B17

- B24

- LANCASTER

- HALLIFAX

Of course we need all of that!!!

[DN308]

Lockeed Ventura

Edited October 16, 2020 by DN308

[JG4_dingsda]

On 10/7/2020 at 9:56 PM, Burdokva said:

I keep wondering why aren't any of these wish list topics tending towards expanding the plane sets for the existing theaters of operations (expansion maps) and what is realistically achievable rather than the tired "wouldn't it be great if we had X in the sim".

 

Early Yak-1 and LaGG-3 series with the M-105PA engine, the late series Yak-7B bubble top with two 12,7mm machine guns. A late series La-5F bubble top with the revised engine cowling. Early model Focke-Wulf 190 F/Gs.

 

These are modifications of existing planes and require much less work than brand new ones.

 

New planes should be fixes to the most glaring omissions in the existing plane sets, such as the FW-189 Uhu that not only a beatifull plane that was supposedly a joy to fly but one that saw very extensive use on the Eastern Front. Il-4, the main bomber of the Soviet ADD (long range strategic bomber service) and Navy MTAPs (minelayer and torpedo bomber regiments) that flew hundreds of thousands of combat sorties in a variety of roles. How about those two, along with the recce versions of the Ju-88, Pe-2, Bf 109 and Yak-1/9, for a nee recontype of missions, maybe with a photocamera implemented?

 

If you want more 'exotic' stuff, there's that too. The Hs-123 that served until there were practically no airworthy planes left, and was present over the largest battles in the East, albeit in limited numbers. IAR-80/81, the mainstay of the Romanian fighter arm, that even saw fair amount of action against the 15th USAAF. The Beriev MBR-2 that served over the Baltic, Black and Barents Seas. The early Tu-2 bomber from the 1942 limited production run that was temporarily cancelled (until 1944) despite being outstanding.

 

As much as I love the MC.202, an MC.200 would have been far better as a lot more airframes did see far more combat for a longer period of time than its later DB-601 powered sibling. Another Italian design, the Reggiane Re.2000 in Hungarian service, also as Hungarian produced Hejas, would make sense and serve as a basis for other Reggiane versions in an MTO/Italy based expansion.

 

I expect (and hope) that various versions of existing planes such as the Bf 109G10, FW-190A-9/F-9, P-39Q, various P-40 models and Spitfire marks, the P-51A, etc. are planned for later expansions, so omitted them above.

 

Yes, I know, neither of these might sound as exciting as a jet fighter or one of the 'wonder weapon' late war designs but are planes that would add much needed diversity in the operational theaters we already have, have arguably had significant impact on the war effort for their respective operators, and (at least some) are feasible as they would be based on existing research/3d model/flight model/textures or serve as the basis for such in future expansions.

 

I guess I'm in the minority with this opinion, though.

This. (+ Fi 156)

[WildWilly]

Fw 189 recon   Hs 123 dive bomber , IL 4  ,  C- 47 ,  more italian, some" free french" fighter or 2eng bomber,  ...  btw  he 219 uhu is pure nightfighter  without lancaster or halifax no need