Friday Night Bomber Flight Topic

[Cathaoir]

Some Il-2 action...

 

 

 

 

And Luse for the kill....

[Lusekofte]

Yes I saw one of the Yaks shoot at it just when I was to pull the trigger. I did not think he hit it enough. I gave it a burst with my 20 mm and it fell. The Yak got the kill and I got a shared

 

I lost bits of my tail. I wonder if it was aaa, the gunner of JU 52 or a tree. 

 

Those trees do not like me and probably account for 90% of my pilots death

Edited May 11, 2019 by LuseKofte

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

56 minutes ago, LuseKofte said:

Yes I saw one of the Yaks shoot at it just when I was to pull the trigger. I did not think he hit it enough. I gave it a burst with my 20 mm and it fell. The Yak got the kill and I got a shared

 

I lost bits of my tail. I wonder if it was aaa, the gunner of JU 52 or a tree. 

 

Those trees do not like me and probably account for 90% of my pilots death

 

He was hit enough - fire from the left engine. No need to kill. 

 

It's funny how perspective is sometimes different "Yes I saw one of the Yaks shoot at it just when I was to pull the trigger. I did not think he hit it enough"  You must be hell of the sniper @LuseKofte ?

 

 

 

 

 

then you was slap by invisible hand  ?

end of bloodlust ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Great and one of the fairly calm mission, thanks TIP , I hope no hard feelings @LuseKofte

 

Edited May 11, 2019 by 307_Tomcat

[Flashy]

Had a great time last night, thanks to everyone who pitched up, and obviously to Tip for organizing everything. I'm not sure if this is the appropriate thread to make some suggestions, but yesterday I overheard Tip and someone else (might have been Nil) talking about the U-2 and how its not very useful in missions and that we need more gameplay options and loadouts for it. While I pretty much agree with everything they were saying, I thought I would make some suggestions as to how it might be used in FNBF missions:

 

• have a recon role setup for the aircraft, so instead of telling players where the "points of interest" (tanks, infantry columns, etc) are, rather give the U-2 pilots a bunch of general locations to go scout and then its up to them to come back to base and inform the "commander" where the enemy actually is. There would need to be a bit of extra mission coding here to ensure that recon planes are recorded as having spotted the target(complex trigger set to named aircraft only-easily done) and that they return to base safely (again complex trigger for named aircraft set to OnEvent Landed Safely - easy). You can even do some other cool stuff here, like making the targets start moving 1 or 2 hours after they realise they have been spotted, so there is a time limit for how long the intel remains relevant, and then the bomber guys tasked with attacking those targets jobs' will be easier if they get there quick enough..

 

• The above will obviously take time, so it could be cool to let certain pilots (like the U-2 guys) start the mission earlier than everyone else to allow them to do "boring", but critical-to-mission-success support roles.Maybe the Ju52 guys could also go do some supply drops at the same time or something? An early dawn/daybreak mission that starts at 1800 UTC could be great for this. Having said that, there would be nothing stopping the fighter guys from jumping on as well, but I'm not sure how many of them would want to hunt U-2's at dawn, so thats why I was thinking of keeping the "official" start time of the mission at 1900 UTC, but allowing the "support" aircraft to start earlier to  do their boring stuff  This would obviously depend on how many people want to fly support roles in missions, but there usually seems to be quite a few guys who enjoy this (myself included).

 

• following on the idea above, what about starting the mission at night and letting the u-2's go out and do a night bombing raid on a known German position (artillery camp maybe)? Again, by the time the "official" mission start time of 1900UTC comes around, it will be day time in the mission, but if you start the mission at say 1700UTC for the U-2 guys, then you could easily have 1 hour of darkness and 1 hour of dawn before the main mission starts to do these things. There could also be an opportunity here for other players who like to fly at night (night fighters or night bombing anyone?) to do some stuff as well if they want.  

 

• Support mission on friendly side of the lines - there was a medevac mission last night I think for the Germans, but you could also have one where a U-2 pilot has to fly to another friendly airfield to pick up a wounded airman and take him back to another airfield near a hospital. This can all be done on friendly side of the lines. The main reason I went for this scenario is because we cant land the U-2 off-field (really devs??) so it has to be at an airfield, and landing at an enemy airfield would be a bit strange. There are many other options here though (spy mission, take a General to another sector, etc).

Finally, some might feel that doing this will split the playerbase up, and result in fewer pilots flying during the main mission time, but there will be nothing to stop the U-2 and JU-52 pilots from switching into other planes after their support missions are done. This will just give those that want to:  a.) fly for longer than the standard mission time, and b.) do some "niche" missions like night flying or support missions a chance to do so. We hardly ever see night missions in online events because most players dont want to do it  (understandable - its pretty tricky and not much air-to-air combat) but there are still players who do like it, and this gives them a chance.

 

Anyway, this post is getting long, so wont go on, but tell me what you guys think of these ideas. Stupid? Awesome? Pointless? let me know!

 

TL/DR - start the FNBF missions earlier with either a dawn or night start time and let U-2 or JU-52 pilots do cool support stuff before the main mission starts..

 

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

@Flashy 307th is night fighter squadron and why not try to recon , I don't mind flying "less offensive" mission and for a change fly U-2. 

I think there is niche for that kind of gameplay.

FNBF is one of its kind sport, so I don't mind what TIP will choose , glad that he have time and resources to do it as it is now.

[Winkelmann]

We need some female pilots then to bomb German camps at night!! Great plan.

 

[[DBS]Tx_Tip]

Good Pics and vids all...

 

Tomcat that needs to be investigated as one of the invisible but in your post visible terrain bugs. I might be able to track that down using the logs but do you remember where this happened. Around Nov. Roganchik perhaps?

 

Fleshy much of what you suggested has already been done within FNBF to utilize logistical aircraft such as the Ju-52 and the U-2 when they first came out. However having the mission run in the pre-dawn before the full contingent of aircraft get started is an interesting idea.  

Let me look at how feasible (time constraints) and what this would actually entail within the ME to run correctly .  

 

In the meantime, Tip take a direct Flak hit:

Mayday! Mayday!

 

Tip

[Lusekofte]

2 hours ago, 307_Tomcat said:

Great and one of the fairly calm mission, thanks TIP , I hope no hard feelings @LuseKofte

Actually I felt like stealing, fire at it. I realized my burst had nothing to do about its demise. 

In your perspective it might seem a long way. But projectories of the cannon on a IL2 as wrong as it may be. Is very effective at that range. Long distance shooting in a IL2 have killed a lot of 109 in this game. No hard feelings I should have left it alone myself

here is a screenshot from right now

Edited May 11, 2019 by LuseKofte

[Jizzo]

As always, another great mission and nice flying, gents!

 

Can't wait for the next one, enjoy your weekend!

 

 

 

[Flashy]

3 hours ago, 307_Tomcat said:

@Flashy 307th is night fighter squadron and why not try to recon , I don't mind flying "less offensive" mission and for a change fly U-2. 

I think there is niche for that kind of gameplay.

FNBF is one of its kind sport, so I don't mind what TIP will choose , glad that he have time and resources to do it as it is now.

 

307th? Is that a player squadron/event, or do you just mean the 307th was a historical night fighter squad?

 

Yeah, I really enjoy FNBF and dont want it to change much, I just thought a few suggestions on other mission types wouldnt hurt, and also its stuff that is relatively easy to do in the ME, and wont require much to be changed to accommodate - I realise Tip doesnt have much time.

1 hour ago, [DBS]Tx_Tip said:

Fleshy much of what you suggested has already been done within FNBF to utilize logistical aircraft such as the Ju-52 and the U-2 when they first came out. However having the mission run in the pre-dawn before the full contingent of aircraft get started is an interesting idea.  

Let me look at how feasible (time constraints) and what this would actually entail within the ME to run correctly .  

 

 

lol.. Fleshy! Thats a WAY better nick! Wish I'd thought of that... ? 

 

I dont think it would be problematic to implement in the ME - basically just adding two hours to each timer currently in the mission and moving the mission start back to say 4:30am would be enough to preserve the current mission logic I would think. If you need help with missions, let me know. I'm pretty handy with the ME and have made quite a few missions.. I never release them though ?

Edited May 11, 2019 by Flashy

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

13 minutes ago, Flashy said:

 

307th? Is that a player squadron/event, or do you just mean the 307th was a historical night fighter squad?

 

Yeah, I really enjoy FNBF and dont want it to change much, I just thought a few suggestions on other mission types wouldnt hurt, and also its stuff that is relatively easy to do in the ME, and wont require much to be changed to accommodate - I realise Tip doesnt have much time.

 

lol.. Fleshy! Thats a WAY better nick! Wish I'd thought of that... ? 

 

I dont think it would be problematic to implement in the ME - basically just adding two hours to each timer currently in the mission and moving the mission start back to say 4:30am would be enough to preserve the current mission logic I would think. If you need help with missions, let me know. I'm pretty handy with the ME and have made quite a few missions.. I never release them though ?

 

13 minutes ago, Flashy said:

 

307th? Is that a player squadron/event, or do you just mean the 307th was a historical night fighter squad?

 

Yeah, I really enjoy FNBF and dont want it to change much, I just thought a few suggestions on other mission types wouldnt hurt, and also its stuff that is relatively easy to do in the ME, and wont require much to be changed to accommodate - I realise Tip doesnt have much time.

 

lol.. Fleshy! Thats a WAY better nick! Wish I'd thought of that... ? 

 

I dont think it would be problematic to implement in the ME - basically just adding two hours to each timer currently in the mission and moving the mission start back to say 4:30am would be enough to preserve the current mission logic I would think. If you need help with missions, let me know. I'm pretty handy with the ME and have made quite a few missions.. I never release them though ?

307th was night fighter squadron in RL

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/No._307_Polish_Night_Fighter_Squadron

 

 

[[DBS]El_Marta]

If the undercarriage of the U2 was not that fragile I could imagine it to be used as some kind of helicopter or bush plane. It would be capable to sneek up on enemy tanks, vehicles and installations flying low level just landing and hiding in between trees and houses. Perhaps we get there one day.

Edited May 11, 2019 by [DBS]El_Marta

[II/JG11_ATLAN_VR]

1 hour ago, LuseKofte said:

Actually I felt like stealing, fire at it. I realized my burst had nothing to do about its demise. 

In your perspective it might seem a long way. But projectories of the cannon on a IL2 as wrong as it may be. Is very effective at that range. Long distance shooting in a IL2 have killed a lot of 109 in this game. No hard feelings I should have left it alone myself

here is a screenshot from right now

Beautiful nature!!!!

 

[Lusekofte]

Yes 30 minutes drive from home. Sat there with my wife and daughter and explained myself. just came back n ow

Edited May 11, 2019 by LuseKofte

[II/JG11_ATLAN_VR]

13 hours ago, LuseKofte said:

Yes 30 minutes drive from home. Sat there with my wife and daughter and explained myself. just came back n ow

wow i like it where do you live?

[Lusekofte]

2 hours ago, II/JG11ATLAN said:

wow i like it where do you live?

Tromsoe

Northern part of Norway 

[II/JG11_ATLAN_VR]

31 minutes ago, LuseKofte said:

Tromsoe

Northern part of Norway 

Wow 2922km from here never been so far in the north very nice

[Lusekofte]

600 km north of the arctic circle means late spring. No light in winter and only light in summer. But we have free and easy access to fishing and hunting. A very nice scenery to go with it. Just bought a ? my old one sunk ?

here is from today from my house

[NN_Razor]

Tromsoe, it's where the Tirpitz was no?

[Lusekofte]

18 minutes ago, NN_Razor said:

Tromsoe, it's where the Tirpitz was no?

It was after multiple attacks further north in Kaafjord south of Alta damaged by Fleet air arm minisubs from HMS Navy and Lancasters landing in Russia. It became inoperable

In 1944 Russia pushed over the borders and it was towed to Tromsoe as a artillery unit for meeting the red hordes.

Where it sunk in December after several hits from Bigboys dropped from Lancasters

I dived on it , still some human remains there. It is not much left of it sice we utilized its steel

[II/JG11_ATLAN_VR]

Here a Pic from my little balcony in Solingen Germany no fjord no mountains only the sun is shining but that's nice

[Chief_Mouser]

1 hour ago, LuseKofte said:

600 km north of the arctic circle means late spring. No light in winter and only light in summer. But we have free and easy access to fishing and hunting. A very nice scenery to go with it. Just bought a ? my old one sunk ?

here is from today from my house

 

I saw you looking out of your window!

 

[Lusekofte]

Wtf. How did you get pick of my house ?

It is right there right spot 

Edited May 12, 2019 by LuseKofte

[Nil]

1 hour ago, Red_Cat said:

 

I saw you looking out of your window!

 

Excellent! good job on waiting for his cute head to pop up!

 

10 minutes ago, LuseKofte said:

Wtf. How did you get pick of my house ?

It is right there right spot 

 

Look closer to your shot! ?

 

Edited May 12, 2019 by Nil

[Lusekofte]

Yeah he is close my allergy kicks in

[Chief_Mouser]

4 hours ago, LuseKofte said:

Wtf. How did you get pick of my house ?

It is right there right spot 

 

Mapmaker's training and Google Streetview. Good job I waited for you to get dressed before I captured you in that window...

[[DBS]Tx_Tip]

Friday Night Bomber Flights Mission May 10th: "Mayday!" AAR

 

Axis:

*Bridge Crossings Sector 1123 Reinforced and resupplied by Ju-52 Ops.

Destroyed 2 Supply Hangers. Rail Station Heavily Damaged. Priverh Factory Dock Complex.
Destroyed 2 Supply Hangers. Tatyanka Airbase.
Destroyed 2 Zis-3 Anti-Tank Guns. 2 Air/Action.
Shot Down 1 Mig-3 s.24. 1 Air/Action.
Shot Down 10 I-16. 6 Air/Action. 4 Flak.
Shot Down 4 IL-2 41. 4 Flak.
Shot Down 4 P-40E-1. 3 Air/Action. 1 Flak.
Shot Down 1 Yak-1 s.69. 1 Air/Action.
Destroyed 4 Parked Fighters. 3 Parked Attack Aircraft. Khanskaya.
4 Flak/Vehicles. Tatyanka Airbase. 

 

Losses:
1 Ammo Bunker. 1 Barracks. 2 Infantry Platoons. Destroyed. Ryumino-Krasnoyarksy.
1 Ammo Bunker. 1 Barracks. Destroyed. Nov. Rogachik.
1 Ammo Bunker. Destroyed. Novomaksimovsky.
2 Barracks. Destroyed. Skorvin Airbase.
Infantry Column. Destroyed. Ryumino-Krasnoyarksy.
4 PzMkIII-L. Destroyed. 4 Air/Action.
8 SdKfz251-1c. Destroyed. 8 Air/Action.
1 PzIVG-1. Destroyed. 1 Air/Action.
2 Pk-40 Anti_Tank Gun. Destroyed. 2 Air/Action.
3 He111H-6 Lost. 1 Air/Action. 2 Flak.
1 Bf109F-2 Lost. 1 Air/Action.
5 Bf109G-2 Lost. 4 Air/Action. 1 Flak.
2 Ju-52 Lost. 2 Air/Action.
1 Bf110E-2 Lost. 1 Air/Action.
1 Parked Ju-52 Destroyed.
40 Flak/Vehicles. Ryumino-Krasnoyarksy. Nov. Rogachik. Novomaksimovsky. 
4 Pilots/Gunners.
 
Allies:

Destroyed. 1 Ammo Bunker. 1 Barracks. 2 Infantry Platoons. Ryumino-Krasnoyarksy.
Destroyed. 1 Ammo Bunker. 1 Barracks. Nov. Rogachik.
Destroyed. 1 Ammo Bunker. Novomaksimovsky.
Destroyed. 2 Barracks. Skorvin Airbase.
Destroyed. Infantry Column. Ryumino-Krasnoyarksy.
Destroyed. 4 PzMkIII-L. 4 Air/Action.
Destroyed. 8 SdKfz251-1c. 8 Air/Action.
Destroyed. 1 PzIVG-1. 1 Air/Action.
Destroyed. 2 Pk-40 Anti_Tank Gun. 2 Air/Action.
Shot Down 3 He111H-6. 1 Air/Action. 2 Flak.
Shot Down 1 Bf109F-2. 1 Air/Action.
Shot Down 5 Bf109G-2. 4 Air/Action. 1 Flak.
Shot Down 2 Ju-52. 2 Air/Action.
Shot Down 1 Bf110E-2. 1 Air/Action.
Destroyed 1 Parked Ju-52.
40 Flak/Vehicles. Ryumino-Krasnoyarksy. Nov. Rogachik. Novomaksimovsky.   

 

Losses:
2 Supply Hangers. Destroyed. Rail Station Heavily Damaged. Priverh Factory Dock Complex.
2 Supply Hangers. Destroyed. Tatyanka Airbase.
2 Zis-3 Anti-Tank Guns. Destroyed. 2 Air/Action.
1 Mig-3 s.24 Lost. 1 Air/Action.
10 I-16 Lost. 6 Air/Action. 4 Flak.
4 IL-2 41 Lost. 4 Flak.
4 P-40E-1 Lost. 3 Air/Action. 1 Flak.
1 Yak-1 s.69 Lost. 1 Air/Action.
4 Flak/Vehicles. Tatyanka Airbase. 
6 Pilots/Gunners.

 

Pilot Stats*
Thanks Marta!

 

Great Time and Well Flown All.
Participation makes it Happen.

 

Heads up for everyone.  No mission this upcoming Friday nor the next. Biz...

See ya's

Tip

Edited May 14, 2019 by [DBS]Tx_Tip
Ju-52 Ops added to AAR...

[[DBS]Tx_Tip]

Above Mayday AAR now records Ju-52 Ops.

 

[[DBS]Tx_Tip]

Friday Night Bomber Flights June 7th @ 17:30 Night Ops Phase...19:00 Full Mission Phase UTC.: Operation Maulwurf!"

Mission Time: 06:18-Night Ops Phase-07:48...07:48-Full Mission-10:00
Conditions: Moderate Clouds. Wind steady from the North-Northeast.
Situation:
November 1944... Rough conditions while ground attack aircraft used cover to pound positions and assets.
 
***Please note Time Change to 17:30 Night Ops Only 19:00-Full Mission UTC.

**Patrol areas may be shown on Map following successful Night Ops. Additional targeting if needed to be sent via PM following Player Recon. Full FNBF ROE will apply.
*Battlefields UK_1 Server Settings for Friday Night Bomber Flights will be Full CEM, No Icon, No Navigational aides.

*TS will be the Official BoS server (108.61.114.3:9407) password bos2014; in one of the MP Channels.
*Note IP Change to BoS TS.
=Backup TS Address will be: ts3.riseofflight.net:7777 - Password: 1917

 

*Important. You may not switch sides during the entire FNBF Mission which will run a full 4 hours. Doing so will result in Mission long ban from the server!!!
**Patrol areas/Targeting will be shown on Map following successful Night Ops. Additional targeting if needed to be sent via PM.

 

*Night Ops Recon/Supply/Patrol Only Planeset to be Determined after Latest Update may include a small number of Me262 Ground Attack version:
Axis
Ju-52 (5)
Ju-88A-4 (3)
Bf110G-2/Me262* (2)

1) [DBS]Tx_Tip
2) [DBS]El_Marta
3) [DBS]T}{OR
4) [DBS]chicky
5)
6)
7)
8)
9)
10)

 

Allied

Po-2

1) Nrv13 (Po-2)
2) Red Cat (Po-2)
3) Jizzo (Po-2)
4) 216th_Cathaoir (Po-2)
5) Flashy (Po-2)

 

I-16t/Yak-1B
1) NN_Razor (Patrol)

2)

 

*Full Mission Planeset to be Determined after Latest Update may include a small number of Me262 Ground Attack version:

Axis
Ground Attack (8)/Bomber (6)/Supply Aircraft (2)
Planeset will be Kuban through Bodenplatte.

1) [DBS]Tx_Tip
2) [DBS]T}{OR
3) [DBS]chicky
4) [DBS]El_Marta
5) [DBS]chicky
6) [DBS]Airdoc
7) JG5_Schuck
8)
9)
10)
11)
12)
13)
14)
15)
16)

 

Fighter Only Aircraft (8)
Planeset will be Kuban through Bodenplatte.

 

1) II/JG11_ATLAN
2) II/JG11_PUMA
3) II/JG11_Terzerole
4)
5)
6)
7)
8)

 

Allied
Ground Attack/Bomber
Planeset will be Kuban through Bodenplatte.

 

Bomber

1) Bladebender (Bomber)

2) 56RAF_Stickz (Bomber)

3)

4)

 

Ground Attack
1) 216th_SilentMisfit (Ground Attack)
2) Red Cat (Ground Attack)
3) 13Nrv (Ground Attack)
4) 216th_Cathaoir (Ground Attack)
5) Flashy (Ground Attack)
6)
7)
8)

 

Fighter Only Aircraft (10)
Planeset will be Kuban through Bodenplatte.

1) Jizzo
2) NN_Razor
3) NN_Oscar
4) 307_Tomcat
5) 307_
6) 307_
7)
8)
9)
10)  

 
**Full Mission Planeset to be Determined after Latest Update may include the Me262 Ground Attack version:
Signup Here...
Or on the BF Site Here: Battlefields Maulwurf Signup

 

Look forward to flying with you.
Tip

Edited June 3, 2019 by [DBS]Tx_Tip

[Jizzo]

Allied Fighter for me , please.

Edited June 1, 2019 by Jizzo

[Nil]

Transport and Recon in the same mission! 

Incredible Tip!

Not able to participate , sorry

[[DBS]Tx_Tip]

1 hour ago, Jizzo said:

Allied Fighter for me , please.

In for 19:00 UTC Full Mission Phase.

 

44 minutes ago, Nil said:

Transport and Recon in the same mission! 

Incredible Tip!

Not able to participate , sorry

Yep this is what Flashy suggested after the last one. Sounded interesting and worked out the logic for Twin Phases within the same FNBF where targeting and other aspects of the Full Mission Phase are dependent on successful Night Ops Phase.

Both Po-2 and Ju-52 play a significant part within the Nights Ops Phase. Unfortunate you can't make it...

[Bladebender]

Posted in BFs forum for Allied Bomber.

 

Thank you.

 

BB.

[13Nrv]

Hi  , 

i would like a Po2 plz

Thx

13

[FTC_Riksen]

4 110s for 1st phase

4 Axis fighters for second phase please.

 

Thanks!

Edited June 1, 2019 by SCG_Riksen

[Chief_Mouser]

I'd like a Po-2 for NightOps and an Allied Ground Attack for the 2nd phase please.

Cheers!

[[DBS]Tx_Tip]

1 hour ago, Bladebender said:

Posted in BFs forum for Allied Bomber.

 

Thank you.

 

BB.

Done...

 

1 hour ago, 13Nrv said:

Hi  , 

i would like a Po2 plz

Thx

13

You got it 13Nrv...

 

1 hour ago, 216th_SilentMisfit said:

Second phase Allied Ground attack,please

In with a Ground Attack...

 

53 minutes ago, SCG_Riksen said:

4 110s for 1st phase

4 Axis fighters for second phase please.

 

Thanks!

Okay have ya's down for the 2 110 slots as there is only 2 available within Night Ops Phase.

There are 5 Ju-52s and 3 Ju-88s left for Axis Night Ops, what'll it be?

In as per request for 2nd Phase...

 

49 minutes ago, Red_Cat said:

I'd like a Po-2 for NightOps and an Allied Ground Attack for the 2nd phase please.

Cheers!

Excellent...

Edited June 1, 2019 by [DBS]Tx_Tip

[13Nrv]

ooooohh seems  i ve missunderstood something , not understand i can fly both mission , so , still a fast (of course) Po2 on first mission AND  an allied ground attacker on the second ...

Thank you sir !!

[FTC_Riksen]

nvm Tip. I'll have to cancel the reservations. I wont be able to make this Friday and I'm not sure thw other SCG pilots will be around. If so, I'll let you know.

[[DBS]Tx_Tip]

1 hour ago, 13Nrv said:

ooooohh seems  i ve missunderstood something , not understand i can fly both mission , so , still a fast (of course) Po2 on first mission AND  an allied ground attacker on the second ...

Thank you sir !!

Done...

 

53 minutes ago, SCG_Riksen said:

nvm Tip. I'll have to cancel the reservations. I wont be able to make this Friday and I'm not sure thw other SCG pilots will be around. If so, I'll let you know.

Copy thanks for the heads up...