Keys H and I and HUD

[Marvel]

Hello guys, after the last update, 5.103, when I start a mission I have always the hud active. Before 5.103 I always flew with only messages and maps activated.

There is a way to have this config always activated, please? Maybe some settings in the config file?

Many thanks for your help!

Ciao!

 

M.

[Comes]

I was wondering that, too. 

Just press I after the start of the mission, no biggie. But before I did not need to do this.

[FuriousMeow]

This was changed in the last update so it doesn't persist between game launches for some reason. Honestly no idea why it was made this way, who complained about turning off the HUD and then having to remember to turn it on again at some later date? Catering to the lowest denominator with that one it seems, and not even common like this must have been 1 really annoying person to have this changed.

[Marvel]

Thanks for your replies, guys. Yes, before 5.103 once setted with no hud + maps and messages no other actions was required. Now at each starting of mission I must to press H and I to have as per above.

Just a little bit annoying, it would be interesting to know if there are some settings to put in the config file to solve this.

I hope devs could be give us a solution.

Ciao!

 

M.

[Ghost666]

Just throwing this out there. Have you tried changing the "Show HUD by default" setting. That's under "Settings/Flight Interface". May work may not. 

[FuriousMeow]

That would work for no HUD, no minimap and no chat - which is how I have it. If the other stuff is needed then I think you're stuck with resetting it each time the game is launched.

[Marvel]

14 hours ago, Ghost666 said:

Just throwing this out there. Have you tried changing the "Show HUD by default" setting. That's under "Settings/Flight Interface". May work may not. 

 

Hi, yes, I have already done it, but it doesn't work. Each mission starts, I must to press H and then I to have HUD OFF and minimap and chat ON....?‍♂️

 

 

 

Ciao!

 

M.

Edited June 24, 2023 by Marvel

[Billsponge1972]

Maybe check to see if your startup.cfg is set to "read only"? 

[Marvel]

On 6/24/2023 at 5:30 PM, Billsponge1972 said:

Maybe check to see if your startup.cfg is set to "read only"? 

 

Hi, and instead it is setted "read only", how it should be setted, please? Is it possible to change something in the startup.cfg to have the setting I desire?

Many thanks!

Ciao!

 

M.

[Dauntless]

Uncheck the "read only" 

 

[Billsponge1972]

... and when you get everything set how you like it, then you can make it "read only".

[Marvel]

17 hours ago, Dauntless said:

Uncheck the "read only" 

 

 

17 hours ago, Billsponge1972 said:

... and when you get everything set how you like it, then you can make it "read only".

 

Aaahh....ok guys! I wil try to do that ?

So, the steps would be:

1) I uncheck the "read only" before start the game

2) I start the mission

3) I make the changing I wish

4) I set again "read only" after the mission and after exit the game....Right?

 

Ciao!

 

M.

[Billsponge1972]

Correct. 

[Marvel]

Hello guys, few minutes ago I tried as above. Startup.cfg was already with unticked "read only".

 

 

 

I played a mission make again my preferred settings,  with chat ON and minimaps ON, then when I finished I ticked "read only".

I exit the game and re-start again the game, but once again changes doesn't works..... To have as above I must to set H and I....

I think tick/untick "read only" doesn't works....?

 

M.

Edited June 28, 2023 by Marvel

[71st_AH_Mastiff]

this has been reported but I don't know what there doing about it..

 

because I still have the same issue.

[LukeFF]

I've let the developers know about this. 

[Marvel]

9 hours ago, LukeFF said:

I've let the developers know about this. 

 

Many thanks, LukeFF!! ?

 

M.

[PatrickAWlson]

It would be nice to have the system remember your preferences but it's not a big deal.  I have the messages turned off.  When I play my sequence is H to turn the HUD off and I to turn the icons back on (I can't spot anything without them).  Takes about two seconds.

[Marvel]

32 minutes ago, PatrickAWlson said:

It would be nice to have the system remember your preferences but it's not a big deal.  I have the messages turned off.  When I play my sequence is H to turn the HUD off and I to turn the icons back on (I can't spot anything without them).  Takes about two seconds.

 

Yes mate, but before 5.103 once setted personal preferences, they remained, without need to remember every time to set H and I.

Matter of taste....

 

M.

[PatrickAWlson]

24 minutes ago, Marvel said:

 

Yes mate, but before 5.103 once setted personal preferences, they remained, without need to remember every time to set H and I.

Matter of taste....

 

M.

 

It never remembered that for me.  I always had to do that bat the start of every mission.  I guess it did remember some other choices that I probably never took advantage of.

[Marvel]

Yes Patrick, I played the whole Stalingrad campaign and almost half of the Kuban campaign in the way I said, then after 5.103 I must to do as per described before.

 

Just yesterday I noticed another strange behaviour never happen before, but I must to do some other test before report it to the forum members.

 

Ciao!

 

M.

[crowdpleaser1989]

I have this exact issue as well, disabling "insturment panel" works for me, but after a game restart its checked again.

[Marvel]

As LukeFF said, devs are operating to solve this issue. I hope they can solve it ?

 

M.

[Marvel]

Hello guys, 5.105 has been released but "H" and "I" have the same behaviour. Any news about a fix, please?

Many thanks!

Ciao!

 

M.

[LukeFF]

9 minutes ago, Marvel said:

Hello guys, 5.105 has been released but "H" and "I" have the same behaviour. Any news about a fix, please?

 

@Marvel, per the developers, this is working as intended, so there will be no changes to it.

[Marvel]

Hi LukeFF, thanks for reply. Yes, they working as intended before and after 5.103, but before 5.103 there no need to do H and I at each mission starting to have no hud+minimap+messages once setted in the first time. Other users noticed that.

However, that is a detail, usefull IMHO, but I do not wish to be controversial.

Ciao!

 

M.

Edited July 31, 2023 by Marvel

[kissTheSky]

@LukeFF  

 

Well, I have to be controversial, because it is an annoying quality of life degradation that got introduced and for the developers to say “it is as intended” is insulting. 
 

For years, I had HUD deactivated and when I turned it on to check the minimap (or to have the squadron chatter on during time compression), I had it set that minimap was large and no instrument panel is shown. Now, all of a sudden, no matter what I do, minimap is the small size and instrument panel is always on. 
 

It might be a small thing for some to press “i” and “m” every time you stater a mission, but for me it means assigning two buttons as I’m in VR and hardly ever use the keyboard. 

[[CPT]Crunch]

Refusal to fix the simple quality of life bits is a major part of why I will no longer buy tanks and WW1 stuff.  There's no future down that road, how can they not know that?  It's a chronic and exhausting grind fighting against the game.

[Regingrave-]

4 часа назад, kissTheSky сказал:

For years, I had HUD deactivated and when I turned it on to check the minimap (or to have the squadron chatter on during time compression), I had it set that minimap was large and no instrument panel is shown. Now, all of a sudden, no matter what I do, minimap is the small size and instrument panel is always on

2 часа назад, [CPT]Crunch сказал:

Refusal to fix the simple quality of life bits is a major part of why I will no longer buy tanks and WW1 stuff.  There's no future down that road, how can they not know that?  It's a chronic and exhausting grind fighting against the game.

The issue there was that for every single admirer of permanently hidden interface like you, there will be plenty of people who will accidently press the button, hide the interface and then won't ever find a way to turn it on.  So untill we found and implement a plausible solution, we prefer the interface to turn back on after the game is restarted.

[ROCKET_KNUT]

On 7/31/2023 at 5:55 PM, Regingrave said:

... admirer of permanently hidden interface..., ...and then won't ever find a way to turn it on...

Making it a check box in the start screen was no option then? I mean, I set my screen resolution there and tell the game if I want to use mods just to name two items. And I will always find it because...., Ummm, well, start screen... 

Edited September 10, 2023 by ROCKET_KNUT

[kissTheSky]

2 hours ago, Regingrave said:

The issue there was that for every single admirer of permanently hidden interface like you, there will be plenty of people who will accidently press the button, hide the interface and then won't ever find a way to turn it on.  So untill we found and implement a plausible solution, we prefer the interface to turn back on after the game is restarted.

I mean, this is a bull---- answer, if I’ve ever seen one, and I work with architects and structural engineers as a construction executive, so I am fully immersed in bull---- answers.

 

You mean to tell me there was a huge silent majority that you are catering to by changing something that has been working the way I described above for the past three years I’ve owned the game? Got many complaints that people turn it off and can’t find to to turn it back on, did you? What a load….

Edited July 31, 2023 by LukeFF
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[Marvel]

19 hours ago, kissTheSky said:

  ....For years, I had HUD deactivated and when I turned it on to check the minimap (or to have the squadron chatter on during time compression), I had it set that minimap was large and no instrument panel is shown. Now, all of a sudden, no matter what I do, minimap is the small size and instrument panel is always on. ....

 

That's just what I meant...

 

M.

[FuriousMeow]

On 7/31/2023 at 11:55 AM, Regingrave said:

The issue there was that for every single admirer of permanently hidden interface like you, there will be plenty of people who will accidently press the button, hide the interface and then won't ever find a way to turn it on.  So untill we found and implement a plausible solution, we prefer the interface to turn back on after the game is restarted.

 

Or just remove the key assignment. If they are randomly hitting a key to disable it and have no idea how to re-enable it, they aren't looking in the keybinds so they won't accidentally assign that key.

 

Doesn't matter to me though, I don't play with any interfaces and rarely used/enabled chat.

[crowdpleaser1989]

How would the fix work in my case?

 

I like to use the minimap in VR for somewhat of situational awareness, however do not want the instrument panel ON. Assign a button for displaying / removing instrument panel?

 

Thanks,

[Art-J]

^ Yes, pretty much. We, who prefer to have panel off, have to hit "H" (or its button equivalent) at the beginning of each mission.

[crowdpleaser1989]

Check, thanks for the confirmation!

[YoYo]

Noticed the same, for me its a bug. Earlier was ok, now settings of compass, it doesn't work, you always have to turn it off manually even though it was done earlier . Pls fix it @Regingrave.

Edited December 24, 2023 by YoYo

[LukeFF]

4 hours ago, YoYo said:

Noticed the same, for me its a bug. Earlier was ok, now settings of compass, it doesn't work, you always have to turn it off manually even though it was done earlier . Pls fix it @Regingrave.

 

It's not a bug, it's the way it's meant to be.

[YoYo]

On 12/25/2023 at 3:01 AM, LukeFF said:

 

It's not a bug, it's the way it's meant to be.

 

Why? After all, if I uncheck an option in the options - if there is a possibility, it means I don't want it. The settings should remember this and not reset it every time. If I uncheck, then the settings should not be reset every time as its now. So looks like a bug.

 

It is worth adding that it was OK from years, from the very beginning, unchecking it caused this little compass to not be displayed for all the time. Everyone was happy with it and I didn't see any player petitions to make it permanent. The problem appeared after one of the last patches. Unfortunately, this means that now the player has to manually turn it off every time if he uses "H". This makes absolutely no sense what we have now.

 

Pls fix it and back "old" behavior @Regingrave & @LukeFF.

Edited December 28, 2023 by YoYo

[Art-J]

I think "the ship has sailed" on this one. There was a long and heated debate about new "H" behaviour in one of patch threads and the devs confirmed that it was intended change and it's here to stay.

Edited December 28, 2023 by Art-J