Now what?

[Canvas25]

Why not the 1948 Arab-Israeli war?

 

Arab forces: Spitfires, T-6 Texans, C-47 Dakotas, Hurricanes, Ansons

 

Israeli forces: Spitfires, Avia S-199s, B-17s, P-51s, C-47s

 

and lots of sparsely populated land.

 

[354thFG_Drewm3i-VR]

3 hours ago, danielprates said:

There is "possible", there is "wishful" and there is "unlikely/near impossible". And then there is "oh come on man!"

 

- Possible: anywhere italy, 42/43 across the channel (circus, ruibarb etc)

 

- Wishful: landbased PTO, BoB regardless of CloD (or med for the same reason)

 

- Unlikelly: carrierbased PTO, 4-engine strategic bombing

 

- "oh come on man": another redundant ETO wiith yaks, LAs, bfs, fws, landleases etc.

This. If they do Eastern Front again with the exception of some collector planes to fill in the gaps, they'll lose a large part of their base. It's not like we'll stop enjoying the content ready made, but we definitely won't be pre-ordering like we did with Normandy and/or buying extra copies to gift to others to expand the player base. 

Edited November 5, 2022 by drewm3i-VR

[Bonnot]

2 hours ago, Eisenfaustus said:

Hm - didn‘t read Clostermann yet what I read about him suggest his work has a higher entertainment value then information. 

Well, CloClo recognised himself that he sometimes tweaked History....As  probably most postwar "memoir" were...; but stats are available and they are cold...

by 1945, the luftwaffe was mostly inexperienced but with some top aces " Tigers"  , who scored on worn out RAF/USAF  vets and (almost) equally fresh allied pilots when they met....and the Flak was even more deadly .....?

[Aapje]

1 hour ago, Canvas25 said:

Why not the 1948 Arab-Israeli war?

If they are not putting swastika's in the game, then that is definitely a no-go. Seems very risky, politically.

[Han]

5 hours ago, CountZero said:

They didnt say never, they said not next DLC...

Yep, and We have ideas how to make it real. It is very simple idea - you need to develop basis things for the future now, today, and not postpone it for tomorrow. If we would thought this way 1.5 years ago - Pacific could be our next project. And we, team, have tought this way than. But decisions were made not by the team then, 1.5 years ago. Now, after all recent changes - they are. 

 

So if we will have a success in hiring new specialists - than next time it will become a true because this time we will develop basis for the future starting from today, not postpining it to have "all tiny features before making big ones". 

 

Anyway, I can ensure you, that next project (even while its not pacific) will be marvelous. 

 

Recently, team have decided, that our time have not passed away and we want to develop new great things which will be listed in aviation sim history. 

 

We plan to expand our team 1.5 times during next year and its not a limit.

 

So if world will stay ok in upcoming years - we have what to show to it. 

[dburne]

Sounding promising Han thanks for sharing !

[354thFG_Leifr]

That does indeed sound promising, and may be some of the better news I've heard in recent weeks.

[Lusekofte]

I take this as a promise, for me having PTO as a goal is good enough. One can hardly ask for more. 
And it is a wise business model going that way give many years of developing

And might very likely likely pay off

Edited November 5, 2022 by 216th_Lusekofte

[Aapje]

10 minutes ago, Han said:

Recently, team have decided, that our time have not passed away and we want to develop new great things which will be listed in aviation sim history. 

 

We plan to expand our team 1.5 times during next year and its not a limit.

That sounds very promising.

 

I personally think that with VR now becoming feasible for more and more people, a golden age of sim realism is coming.

[354thFG_Drewm3i-VR]

This sounds amazing!

[Adger]

6 hours ago, dburne said:

As long as 1CGS continues to provide a very good single player experience I will support them by ordering whatever next theater they announce is.

Combat flight sims for the PC are niche enough, they need all the support they can get.

 

 

You think it’s a very good single player experience @dburne ?  I think it’s got a fair way to go to iron out a fair few SP (A.i) issues before I’d personally say it was “very good”, hopefully the team can do some magic regarding some of the SP issues.

 

Absolutely agree about Combat flight sims been niche though, but I personally cannot bring myself to support the team at the moment whilst “issues” are still being raised time and time again with little or no “fixes”. 

 

Im hoping and praying with @Han recent announcement about expanding the team that we get to see more improvements regarding the Single player experience, if that happens I’ll purchase everything that I don’t already own..please Han make it happen.?

[=69.GIAP=VLADI]

53 minutes ago, Han said:

Yep, and We have ideas how to make it real. It is very simple idea - you need to develop basis things for the future now, today, and not postpone it for tomorrow. If we would thought this way 1.5 years ago - Pacific could be our next project. And we, team, have tought this way than. But decisions were made not by the team then, 1.5 years ago. Now, after all recent changes - they are. 

 

So if we will have a success in hiring new specialists - than next time it will become a true because this time we will develop basis for the future starting from today, not postpining it to have "all tiny features before making big ones". 

 

Anyway, I can ensure you, that next project (even while its not pacific) will be marvelous. 

 

Recently, team have decided, that our time have not passed away and we want to develop new great things which will be listed in aviation sim history. 

 

We plan to expand our team 1.5 times during next year and its not a limit.

 

So if world will stay ok in upcoming years - we have what to show to it. 

Thank you for this insight, Han! I am really looking forward to your next project (and my next purchase ? ) and I wish you and your team the best!

Salute!

=69.GIAP=VLADI

Edited November 5, 2022 by =69.GIAP=VLADI

[DN308]

@Han, alongside with your next module, I would love to see some improvements of your current products. 
As a SP only, I guess the main problem with bombers and multi positions is performance in MP. However, I ensure you that we are a lot to want and ready to buy a medium bomber if you’re not able to make a B17. A B-26 for BoN, BoBP and maybe future maps would be absolutely fabulous 

[RNAS10_Mitchell]

3 hours ago, Canvas25 said:

Why not the 1948 Arab-Israeli war?

 

Arab forces: Spitfires, T-6 Texans, C-47 Dakotas, Hurricanes, Ansons

 

Israeli forces: Spitfires, Avia S-199s, B-17s, P-51s, C-47s

 

and lots of sparsely populated land.

 

Because they want to actually sell the game to MANY people?? All joking aside, don't see that as a hot product for them.  Pretty limited appeal IMO.

Edited November 5, 2022 by RNAS10_Mitchell

[Skycat1969]

2 hours ago, drewm3i-VR said:

This. If they do Eastern Front again with the exception of some collector planes to fill in the gaps, they'll lose a large part of their base. It's not like we'll stop enjoying the content ready made, but we definitely won't be pre-ordering like we did with Normandy and/or buying extra copies to gift to others to expand the player base. 

Normandy feels like a dud to me, and I feel like game version 5.002 has ruined Bodenplatte for what I enjoyed it for -- P-47 and Typhoon ground attack missions. I still fly these every night, as well as my ongoing Bf 109 career in Kuban that began with Moscow. IMO my Kuban career is more playable than Bodenplatte right now. I'm about to reach the end though, and we'll see how my Luftwaffe pilot fares over France...

 

I'll support an Eastern Front title if they go there because that's still what the game does best. I'd prefer Italy or something in that region, especially if it means some new USAAF aircraft. I'm not interested in the Pacific or carriers TBH but I know others are so I hope there is good news that will make a large segment of this community happy. I'd rather have a CBI title though.

[Hotaru_Ito]

1 hour ago, Han said:

Anyway, I can ensure you, that next project (even while its not pacific) will be marvelous. 

 

Recently, team have decided, that our time have not passed away and we want to develop new great things which will be listed in aviation sim history. 

 

We plan to expand our team 1.5 times during next year and its not a limit.

 

So if world will stay ok in upcoming years - we have what to show to it. 

 

If this were coming from almost any other company I'd be saying "I'll believe it when I see it," but the past few years of delivering on promises have solidified my confidence that you'll continue to do so. I'm interested in just about all of it, the more obscure the better, so looking forward to Italy '43, East '45, or whatever else the next module turns out to be!

[Gambit21]

4 hours ago, danielprates said:

 

I am super interested to read what @Gambit21's bet is on a really-new-and-not--merely- "sort'of--new" thing would be.

You must be new here

First of all I wish the team success no matter what they do.

That said…

Anything not involving Germany, 109’s and 190’s in any way - at all. Enough already. There are other things to explore. 
 

There’s a good portion of the audience/market that suffers from Luftwaffe fatigue - I happen to be among that group.

 

There’s an entire Axis force that played a huge part in the war from start to literally the last day. 

 

So from where I sit “completely new” means PTO or Korea….and we know it’s not PTO….and likely not Korea (hope it is though)

 

 

 

 

[RNAS10_Mitchell]

1 hour ago, Han said:

Yep, and We have ideas how to make it real. It is very simple idea - you need to develop basis things for the future now, today, and not postpone it for tomorrow. If we would thought this way 1.5 years ago - Pacific could be our next project. And we, team, have tought this way than. But decisions were made not by the team then, 1.5 years ago. Now, after all recent changes - they are. 

 

So if we will have a success in hiring new specialists - than next time it will become a true because this time we will develop basis for the future starting from today, not postpining it to have "all tiny features before making big ones". 

 

Anyway, I can ensure you, that next project (even while its not pacific) will be marvelous. 

 

Recently, team have decided, that our time have not passed away and we want to develop new great things which will be listed in aviation sim history. 

 

We plan to expand our team 1.5 times during next year and its not a limit.

 

So if world will stay ok in upcoming years - we have what to show to it. 

So...

Anyway, I can ensure you, that next project (even while its not pacific) will be marvelous. 

 

Pretty clear there if intentional or not  it's not going to be pacific.

 

Can you tell us when the next project will be announced?

 

Hoping not korea...

Edited November 5, 2022 by RNAS10_Mitchell

[FliegerAD]

15 hours ago, ROCKET_KNUT said:

Clearly it will be IL2 ASW (Anti Submarine Warfare that is) ?

 

 

6 hours ago, Calos_01 said:

Be sure it will come with another rocket firing platform

 

 

 

Count me in! Add Beaufighters, Sunderlands, He 177s, Ju 88 Hs, maybe even flying boats for SAR operations. A dream.

 

But too niche even for WW2 sim standards of 2022.

Edited November 5, 2022 by FliegerAD

[BladeMeister]

2 hours ago, Adger said:

 

 

You think it’s a very good single player experience @dburne ?  I think it’s got a fair way to go to iron out a fair few SP (A.i) issues before I’d personally say it was “very good”, hopefully the team can do some magic regarding some of the SP issues.

 

Absolutely agree about Combat flight sims been niche though, but I personally cannot bring myself to support the team at the moment whilst “issues” are still being raised time and time again with little or no “fixes”. 

 

Im hoping and praying with @Han recent announcement about expanding the team that we get to see more improvements regarding the Single player experience, if that happens I’ll purchase everything that I don’t already own..please Han make it happen.?

I have respect for both of you guys, DB and Ade, and I agree with you both. I Agree with DB in the respect that compared to the AI in the beginning during the BOS days that the AI are now very good after receiving a lot of revision/development. Thank you 1C team. I also have to agree with Ade in the respect that there are quite a few AI issues that have been reported to the team which have not been addressed. With single players supposedly making up 70-80% of the customer base, I am really hoping that the 1C team will redouble there efforts to seriously address these AI issues and really move the AI forward and provide us single players with some fresh and more intelligent AI routines. I am really having fun with the improvements already made and hoping for the single player experience to exponentially get better with a renewed focus by a bigger and more in-depth 1C team.

 

S!Blade<><

Edited November 5, 2022 by BladeMeister

[Lusekofte]

1 hour ago, Adger said:

 

 

You think it’s a very good single player experience @dburne ?  I think it’s got a fair way to go to iron out a fair few SP (A.i) issues before I’d personally say it was “very good”, hopefully the team can do some magic regarding some of the SP issues.

 

Absolutely agree about Combat flight sims been niche though, but I personally cannot bring myself to support the team at the moment whilst “issues” are still being raised time and time again with little or no “fixes”. 

 

Im hoping and praying with @Han recent announcement about expanding the team that we get to see more improvements regarding the Single player experience, if that happens I’ll purchase everything that I don’t already own..please Han make it happen.?

Personally I find planes with particularly interest for me has very bad career’s

But I have found some careers that works. 
min DCS I get more into the campaigns. Almost like they are real. But I do choppers there. I am not dependant on ai like in GB

I struggle hard time in career making it feel authentic

[Gambit21]

Daniel’s post is promising - and all I can ask. Thanks @Han

[BladeMeister]

2 hours ago, Han said:

Yep, and We have ideas how to make it real. It is very simple idea - you need to develop basis things for the future now, today, and not postpone it for tomorrow. If we would thought this way 1.5 years ago - Pacific could be our next project. And we, team, have tought this way than. But decisions were made not by the team then, 1.5 years ago. Now, after all recent changes - they are. 

 

So if we will have a success in hiring new specialists - than next time it will become a true because this time we will develop basis for the future starting from today, not postpining it to have "all tiny features before making big ones". 

 

Anyway, I can ensure you, that next project (even while its not pacific) will be marvelous. 

 

Recently, team have decided, that our time have not passed away and we want to develop new great things which will be listed in aviation sim history. 

 

We plan to expand our team 1.5 times during next year and its not a limit.

 

So if world will stay ok in upcoming years - we have what to show to it. 

Thank you Han. It is refreshing to read that the team has a vision for developing the Pacific Theater in the future. I cannot wait to experience what 1C can do with carrier operations(hopefully) in the future. My bet for this next theater is Italy, and a great choice that will be if I am correct.

 

S!Blade<><

[LuftManu]

2 hours ago, Han said:

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Great news Han!

[ROCKET_KNUT]

2 hours ago, Han said:

Anyway, I can ensure you, that next project (even while its not pacific) will be marvelous.

IL-2 ASW it is then... Leigh lights, airborne asw radar, sonobuoys, Magnetic anomaly detectors, depth charges, retro rockets, Mk.24 Mines,...

The lot... I knew it, I KNEW IT... ???

Actually, I don´t know squat. I´m just happy for you, that you´re having a plan and it is going to be good. Keeping my fingers crossed for the 09th... 

[Mysticpuma]

3 hours ago, Han said:

Yep, and We have ideas how to make it real. It is very simple idea - you need to develop basis things for the future now, today, and not postpone it for tomorrow. If we would thought this way 1.5 years ago - Pacific could be our next project. And we, team, have tought this way than. But decisions were made not by the team then, 1.5 years ago. Now, after all recent changes - they are. 

 

Okay, call me an optimist...but I think in 2024 we are looking at the Pacific from that reply ?

[RNAS10_Mitchell]

16 minutes ago, Mysticpuma said:

Okay, call me an optimist...but I think in 2024 we are looking at the Pacific from that reply ?

2024 might be a tad optimistic imo. Unless you mean they might announce it then..

Edited November 6, 2022 by RNAS10_Mitchell

[Chief_Mouser]

3 hours ago, Han said:

But decisions were made not by the team then, 1.5 years ago. Now, after all recent changes - they are. 

 

 ? That's a really interesting statement in light of the last week or so.

 

And this: 

 

3 hours ago, Han said:

 

So if world will stay ok in upcoming years - we have what to show to it. 

 

The world has to get better first before it can be ok. The past nine months have been total crap and shows no immediate prospect of change.

[II./SG.1-MarkWilhelmsson]

22 minutes ago, Chief_Mouser said:

 

 ? That's a really interesting statement in light of the last week or so.

 

And this: 

 

 

The world has to get better first before it can be ok. The past nine months have been total crap and shows no immediate prospect of change.

 

Past nine months? Lol things have been bad way longer than that. Most people were just shielded from the reality of it. The world turning to crap didn't happen because Russia invaded Ukraine - the fact that the world IS crap was simply revealed by it.

[Wardog5711]

Once again, we are drifting into dangerous waters.   Keep the discussions limited to flying or tanking and leave the real world out of it.

 

[CountZero]

42 minutes ago, RNAS10_Mitchell said:

2024 might be a tad optimistic imo. Unless you mean they might announce it then..

Yes, probably anouncing it, but i think it will be more like anouncment in 2025 if all goes well, with 3 year DLC cycle to expect.

[Ribbon]

5 hours ago, Han said:

Yep, and We have ideas how to make it real. It is very simple idea - you need to develop basis things for the future now, today, and not postpone it for tomorrow. If we would thought this way 1.5 years ago - Pacific could be our next project. And we, team, have tought this way than. But decisions were made not by the team then, 1.5 years ago. Now, after all recent changes - they are. 

 

So if we will have a success in hiring new specialists - than next time it will become a true because this time we will develop basis for the future starting from today, not postpining it to have "all tiny features before making big ones". 

 

Anyway, I can ensure you, that next project (even while its not pacific) will be marvelous. 

 

Recently, team have decided, that our time have not passed away and we want to develop new great things which will be listed in aviation sim history. 

 

We plan to expand our team 1.5 times during next year and its not a limit.

 

So if world will stay ok in upcoming years - we have what to show to it. 

You have my moral support for it.... and my money when you release PTO, B25, B26,torpedo bombers or other medium/heavy bombers.

 

Wish you a good luck and success!

[Jade_Monkey]

Did i just read Mediterranean with carriers?

[jnfrombigt]

I left South Carolina on October 25 for a remote area in southeast Utah.  Just returned home and got on the computer tonight.   Wow!!!   I can't believe so much happened in such a short time.  Anyway, I'm a VR fanatic and my wish would be for product improvement in that area.  To the IL2 folks:  I love the game and it's relationship to history.  You've done a great job!   Thanks  jn

[oc2209]

5 hours ago, Gambit21 said:

There’s a good portion of the audience/market that suffers from Luftwaffe fatigue - I happen to be among that group.

 

Careful not to make assumptions about the entire audience, when all you have is the opinion of a few dozen vocal complainers on a forum.

 

Whether there is or is not Luftwaffe fatigue outside of the forum, and to what extent, is something nobody here can verify.

[MiGCap]

No Luftwaffe fatigue here ... in the contrary!

 

Waiting for Pacific though.

 

But I buy anything IL-2 GB offers ... alone to keep the development going.  

[Gambit21]

3 hours ago, oc2209 said:

 

Careful not to make assumptions about the entire audience, when all you have is the opinion of a few dozen vocal complainers on a forum.

 

Whether there is or is not Luftwaffe fatigue outside of the forum, and to what extent, is something nobody here can verify.

We’ll of course…I didn’t make assumptions about the entire audience - you should know better, nor did I indicate as much. 

Goes without saying - we all know that.

 

 

Edited November 6, 2022 by Gambit21

[ST_Catchov]

QUIET! I'm trying to think of something to whine about.

[Mysticpuma]

5 hours ago, Jade_Monkey said:

Did i just read Mediterranean with carriers?

Well maybe that's a good starting point to get Carrier technical issues sorted before the PTO? 

Pacific confirmed? 

 

[willeverton]

I'm reading that as, Pacific was always put out there that they wanted to do it, but devs were never really committed to putting the building blocks in to actually do it. After recent changes it's now more plausible it seems. Jason going meaning the missing data on Japenese planes not such an issue? I'm all for accuracy, but if best guesstimate is the best we're ever going to get for some PTO planes that's fine with me. 

 

After that post by Han, if the next theatre after the upcoming one is not PTO, this place will implode!!