Great Battles Aircraft Details App

[Hetzer_II]

It would be a lot of work, but I think with all the newly implemented engine variants for the 109, Mig, P40 it would be time to map these options in the app. An engine selection or separate entries would make sense. Comparing a 1943 109 f4 with a 1940 mig3 is kind of pointless.

[marcobona]

On 12/25/2024 at 11:00 AM, Hetzer_II said:

It would be a lot of work, but I think with all the newly implemented engine variants for the 109, Mig, P40 it would be time to map these options in the app. An engine selection or separate entries would make sense. Comparing a 1943 109 f4 with a 1940 mig3 is kind of pointless.

 

Why do all this work you suggest? I mean, the App gives you the best values achieved with the best Mods. So, the game allows me to fly with the best Mods in every mission of my Career, even if I am not a unit commander. And then what do I care to compare a 109 F-4 Without Modification with a MiG-3, when I can fight with a 109 F-4 with the best Mods? Bye.

[Sturmalex]

Lovely tool! Thanks a truckload marcobona! Back in the day I LOVED the IL2Compare app. This is the spiritual successor to me.

[JMax]

Thank you for this app. I use this alot for the "compare planes" feature,and really enjoy it. Recently I have been flying the TA 152 and wishing it was listed - I didnt realize you updated the app! THANKS.😎

[Youtch]

I said it already, but worth saying again, your app has become the wikipedia of IL2!

 

I am currently using it to calculate in default aircraft configuration the mass/second of projectiles fired, to create a ratio vs standard weight, and this is then helping me to configure Force Feedback Back in the joystick in a much more realistic way between the different planes!

 

Many thanks for this.

[marcobona]

5 hours ago, Youtch said:

I said it already, but worth saying again, your app has become the wikipedia of IL2!

 

Thank you for your comment @Youtch, I appreciate it very much and it repays me for all the time I have dedicated and will dedicate to the development of this App.

[Youtch]

I guess DCS folks would kill to have a similar app!

[Youtch]

Hello Marco,

 

I have been recompiling for a Force Feedback project all the type of configurations of weapons Machine Guns/Cannons that can be set-up in the game per aircraft.

 

In some cases, I realised that the text description was not always matching what was actually available in the game.

 

IL2 aircrafts configurations.zip

 

Maybe this information is of your interest.

 

y.

 

 

[Youtch]

Also,  7.92mm Browning MG .303 does not exist, it was  7.7 mm Browning MG .303

 

The version below also includes the listing of all configurations and weapon specs

 

IL2 WW2 aircraft weapons.zip

 

Edited March 25 by Youtch

[marcobona]

1 hour ago, Youtch said:

7.92mm Browning MG .303 does not exist, it was  7.7 mm Browning MG .303

 

You're right, my fault. I'll correct it soon. Thanks for your report. Bye.

 

 

2 hours ago, Youtch said:

Maybe this information is of your interest.

 

Good work. Very interesting!

[marcobona]

7 hours ago, Youtch said:

7.92mm Browning MG .303 does not exist, it was  7.7 mm Browning MG .303

 

Error data corrected with a new 21.39.35.61 release

[marcobona]

Due to the latest official 6.001 Update a new english & spanish version 22.40.36.62 has been released.

 

- Added the new I-153 and LaGG-3 ser.4 in the main App. This two planes are been tested in conditions as reported in the first page of this thread. 

- Added the new Odessa 1941 map with its airfields and airports. 

- Fixed some data and various improvements.

[Hanu]

Could you pin this topic @LukeFF

This is sooooo great application for mission makers to get appropriate skins / bases / squadrons for your missions. And more.

[GrungyMonkey]

Any chance we could get data for different engine/fuel setups? As it stands it's tough to tell what state the planes are being represented in.

[marcobona]

11 hours ago, GrungyMonkey said:

As it stands it's tough to tell what state the planes are being represented in.

 

As written in the first page of this thread:

 

 

Remember, all IAS, Rate of Climb and Sustained Turn Rate values are achieved in these conditions:

 

IAS values

- Kuban autumn map with no wind, no clouds at 12.00 time.

- Best engine and best mods applied.

- Standard load for fighters, fighter bombers/attackers; no bombs load for bombers; no cargo for transports. 

 

Rate of Climb values

- Kuban autumn map with no wind, no clouds at 12.00 time.

- Best engine and best mods applied.

- Standard load for fighters, fighter bombers/attackers; standard bombs load for bombers; standard cargo for transports.

 

Sustained Turn Rate Values

- Kuban autumn map with no wind, no clouds at 12.00 time.

- Best engine and best mods applied.

- Standard load for fighters, fighter bombers/attackers; standard bombs load for bombers; standard cargo for transports.

 

 

 

Furthermore, if you hover the mouse pointer over each value, you will see the conditions under which that value was obtained.

 

Edited June 15 by marcobona

[GrungyMonkey]

2 hours ago, marcobona said:

 

As written in the first page of this thread:

 

 

Remember, all IAS, Rate of Climb and Sustained Turn Rate values are achieved in these conditions:

 

IAS values

- Kuban autumn map with no wind, no clouds at 12.00 time.

- Best engine and best mods applied.

- Standard load for fighters, fighter bombers/attackers; no bombs load for bombers; no cargo for transports. 

 

Rate of Climb values

- Kuban autumn map with no wind, no clouds at 12.00 time.

- Best engine and best mods applied.

- Standard load for fighters, fighter bombers/attackers; standard bombs load for bombers; standard cargo for transports.

 

Sustained Turn Rate Values

- Kuban autumn map with no wind, no clouds at 12.00 time.

- Best engine and best mods applied.

- Standard load for fighters, fighter bombers/attackers; standard bombs load for bombers; standard cargo for transports.

 

 

 

Furthermore, if you hover the mouse pointer over each value, you will see the conditions under which that value was obtained.

 

Okay then but is it possible we could get an option to see different values? I've never flown the P-51b with 70% fuel and 81 inches MP. I'd rather see how in performs with 30-40% fuel and 61-67 inches.

[marcobona]

4 hours ago, GrungyMonkey said:

Okay then but is it possible we could get an option to see different values? I've never flown the P-51b with 70% fuel and 81 inches MP. I'd rather see how in performs with 30-40% fuel and 61-67 inches.

 

What you are asking for involves too much work and too much data to be provided for each plane in this App, which was created solely to help players play better. Bye.

[jollyjack]

Fantastic tool, thanks, again.

[marcobona]

Due to the latest official 6.002 Update a new english & spanish version 22.41.37.64 has been released.

 

- Added the new Yak-1 ser.23 and Yak-3 ser.9 in the main App. This two planes are been tested in conditions as reported in the first page of this thread. 

- Updated the Odessa 1941 map with its airfields and airports. 

- Added Finnish Air Force paint schemes and tactical symbols in the I-153 and Hurricane Mk.II planes.

- Fixed some data and various improvements.
 

[Roland_HUNter]

Yak 3 stall speed is wrong.
Indicated stall speed in flight configuration: 152..160 km/h
Indicated stall speed in takeoff/landing configuration: 136..141 km/h

You added the landing stall not the flight.

[marcobona]

14 minutes ago, Roland_HUNter said:

Yak 3 stall speed is wrong.
Indicated stall speed in flight configuration: 152..160 km/h
Indicated stall speed in takeoff/landing configuration: 136..141 km/h

You added the landing stall not the flight.

 

Yes, my fault. Even the Yak-1 ser.23 value is wrong. I'll correct them soon. Thanks for your report.

[Roland_HUNter]

I found another error:

Tempest MkV:
Indicated stall speed in flight configuration: 150…174 km/h
Indicated stall speed in takeoff/landing configuration: 128…149 km/h

There is 140 km/h in the app.

[marcobona]

3 hours ago, Roland_HUNter said:

Yak 3 stall speed is wrong.
Indicated stall speed in flight configuration: 152..160 km/h
Indicated stall speed in takeoff/landing configuration: 136..141 km/h

 

2 hours ago, Roland_HUNter said:

Tempest MkV:
Indicated stall speed in flight configuration: 150…174 km/h
Indicated stall speed in takeoff/landing configuration: 128…149 km/h

 

All values corrected. Thanks again for your reports.

[marcobona]

A new english & spanish version 22.41.37.66 has been released.

 

- Added the new Pilot's Notes Templates for the Yak-1 ser.23, Yak-3 ser.9, P-47D-22 and P-47D-28 planes. Thanks to @Charlo-VR for his great work!

- Fixed some data and various improvements.

[flugkapitan]

Thank you for your continuing work on this most wonderful tool 🍺

Regards,

Scott

[marcobona]

Due to the latest official 6.003 Update a new english & spanish version 22.42.38.68 has been released.

 

- Added the new Bf-109 E-4 and Ju-87 D-5 in the main App. This two planes are been tested in conditions as reported in the first page of this thread.
- Fixed some data and various improvements.

[Roland_HUNter]

E-7 has wrong data at length. 8.64 instead of 8.8.
And 1100 HP instead of 1075.

[marcobona]

10 hours ago, Roland_HUNter said:

E-7 has wrong data at length. 8.64 instead of 8.8.
And 1100 HP instead of 1075.

 

Yes, they were old values from manual never updated. Now corrected! Thanks for your report.

[marcobona]

A new english & spanish version 22.42.38.70 has been released.

 

- Added the new Pilot's Notes Templates for the Bf-109 E-4, Ju-87 D-3 and Ju-87 D-5 planes. Thanks to @Charlo-VR for his great work!

- Fixed some data and various improvements.

[flugkapitan]

Thank you, Sir! 🫡

[Hanu]

Thank you again! Great work!

[silvergun]

Bf 109 F-2 Power Max: 1200 HP instead of 1220 HP.

Bf 109 G-2 installed DB-601E (1943) instead of DB-605A (1943).

 

 

Edited October 22 by silvergun

[marcobona]

2 hours ago, silvergun said:

Bf 109 F-2 Power Max: 1200 HP instead of 1220 HP.

Bf 109 G-2 installed DB-601E (1943) instead of DB-605A (1943)

 

Now corrected! Thanks for the reports.

[silvergun]

Bf 109 G-6 Late: installed DB-605A (1943) -> instead of MW-50, Herla Haube;

Bf 109 G-6AS: installed MW-50, Herla Haube -> instead MW-50, DB-605ASM;

Bf 109 G-14: installed MW-50, DB-605ASM -> no mod needed, however the correct engine is the DB-605AM;

Bf 109 K-4: no information of the engine mod, correct one DB-605DC;

Bf 110 E-2: installed DB-605DC -> the engine from Bf 109 K-4, no mod needed;

Bf 110 G-2: no information of the engine mod, correct one DB-605B (1943);

Fw 190 A-3: installed DB-605B (1943)-> the engine from Bf 110 G-2, no mod needed;

Me 410 A-1: installed Fuel Reg. Valve -> a mod from ME 262 A;

Me 262 A: no information of Fuel Reg. Valve mod.

 

 

 

*EDIT

 

Ta 152 H-1: incorrect "Possible Loadouts Settings.

 

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Edited October 22 by silvergun
More info

[marcobona]

12 hours ago, silvergun said:

Bf 109 G-6 Late: installed DB-605A (1943) -> instead of MW-50, Herla Haube;

Bf 109 G-6AS: installed MW-50, Herla Haube -> instead MW-50, DB-605ASM;

Bf 109 G-14: installed MW-50, DB-605ASM -> no mod needed, however the correct engine is the DB-605AM;

Bf 109 K-4: no information of the engine mod, correct one DB-605DC;

Bf 110 E-2: installed DB-605DC -> the engine from Bf 109 K-4, no mod needed;

Bf 110 G-2: no information of the engine mod, correct one DB-605B (1943);

Fw 190 A-3: installed DB-605B (1943)-> the engine from Bf 110 G-2, no mod needed;

Me 410 A-1: installed Fuel Reg. Valve -> a mod from ME 262 A;

Me 262 A: no information of Fuel Reg. Valve mod.

 

My fault. There was one extra line in the source code. I've fixed it now. Thanks for reporting it.

 

12 hours ago, silvergun said:

Ta 152 H-1: incorrect "Possible Loadouts Settings.

 

I don't know where that value came from. It's been removed now.

[silvergun]

Bf 109 F-4: installed DB-601E (1943), instead of DB-601E (1942).

 

 

Yak-1 ser.23: Max Weight 2665 Kg, instead of 3034 Kg.

 

 

Ju 87 D-3: Length 11.5 m, instead of 11 m.

 

Edited October 23 by silvergun
More info

[marcobona]

@silvergun Please don't fill this topic with all these reports. Collect all inaccurate values once and for all and report them to me by PM. Thanks.

[marcobona]

As rightly pointed out, this app contains several values that need updating. I was negligent in not doing so as these values changed with the various updates released by the developers. I'm checking each one individually, and will release an update when I'm finished. In the meantime, I'd like to thank whoever notified me of these errors. Anyone who wants to help me fix them is kindly requested to contact me via PM only. Thank you.

[marcobona]

A new english & spanish version 22.42.39.73 has been released.

 

- Updated several values according to manual ones. It was a long and tedious job, but I'm only human and I might have overlooked something. If that's the case, please report it to me in private message, not in the thread, thank you.

- Fixed some data and various improvements.