Great Battles Aircraft Details App

[flugkapitan]

Thanks for all your work on this and the Flying Circus details app!

 

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Cheers,

Scott

[marcobona]

Due to the latest official 5.107 Update a new english & spanish version 15.27.19.24 has been released.

 

- Added new La-5F ser.38 plane in the main App and in Kuban Scenario.

- Sorted alphabetically all allied planes in the main App.

- Fixed some bugs and various improvements.

[Roland_HUNter]

On 10/27/2023 at 11:21 PM, marcobona said:

Due to the latest official 5.107 Update a new english & spanish version 15.27.19.24 has been released.

 

- Added new La-5F ser.38 plane in the main App and in Kuban Scenario.

- Sorted alphabetically all allied planes in the main App.

- Fixed some bugs and various improvements.

La-5 ser 8 specs are changed:

 

Maximum true air speed at sea level, engine mode - Boosted: 544 km/h ---> 550 km/h
Maximum true air speed at 3000 m, engine mode - Nominal: 571 km/h ---> 575 km/h
Maximum true air speed at 6500 m, engine mode - Nominal: 603 km/h

 

Service ceiling: 9500 m ---> 9700m
Climb rate at sea level: 18 m/s ---> 19 m/s
Climb rate at 3000 m: 13.3 m/s ---> 14 m/s
Climb rate at 6000 m: 8.2 m/s ---> 8.8 m/s

 

Maximum performance turn at sea level: 23.4 s, at 270 km/h IAS. ---> 21.7s at 290 km/h
Maximum performance turn at 3000 m: 35.3 s, at 270 km/h IAS. --->32 s at 300 km/h

 

Oil rated temperature in engine output: 55..90 °C
Oil maximum temperature in engine output: 125 °C
Cylinder head rated temperature: 140..210 °C
Cylinder head maximum temperature: 215 °C--->250 °C

La-5FN
Maximum performance turn at sea level: 21.0 s, at 320 km/h IAS

You added mistakenly 19.7s in the program.

[MarcelDeVirginie]

@marcobona Dude! You're amazing! Thanks so much for making this. It must have been a lot of hard work. This is a super helpful resource, especially for an inexperienced player like myself.

[primo62]

   Thanks for the great app, I have been using it for a long time. At the moment I am stuck on ver. 15 24 17 23 after downloading any new ver. I am getting error, unhandled
exception in the app. This has nothing to do with security because I have checked everything on my end. I even reinstalled net framework 4.8 on my pc . Your app will open
ok but when I touch on anything I get the error. If I click continue on the error I can pick  a couple planes  but there is nothing in the detail section at all just blank for both planes like speed turn rates weight.  I just bought the La-5F and wanted to compare planes.

I do hope you can help me, I use the app at least twice a day.

                                                                  Thanks Don

[marcobona]

55 minutes ago, primo62 said:

   Thanks for the great app, I have been using it for a long time. At the moment I am stuck on ver. 15 24 17 23 after downloading any new ver. I am getting error, unhandled
exception in the app. This has nothing to do with security because I have checked everything on my end. I even reinstalled net framework 4.8 on my pc . Your app will open
ok but when I touch on anything I get the error. If I click continue on the error I can pick  a couple planes  but there is nothing in the detail section at all just blank for both planes like speed turn rates weight.  I just bought the La-5F and wanted to compare planes.

I do hope you can help me, I use the app at least twice a day.

                                                                  Thanks Don

 

Give me the screenshots of this errors

[primo62]

Ok, I am 82 yrs old and both my eye's have had cornea transplants, My vision is not very good. I don't know how to expand the error message or how to do a screenshot  also would not no where windows keeps them. Well thanks anyway, I will have to live without the app.

 

[marcobona]

2 minutes ago, primo62 said:

Ok, I am 82 yrs old and both my eye's have had cornea transplants, My vision is not very good. I don't know how to expand the error message or how to do a screenshot  also would not no where windows keeps them. Well thanks anyway, I will have to live without the app.

 

I'm sorry that you're having problems with my app. Your age is not important, all that we have in common is the passion for this sim game, and this passion is ageless!

Soon I'll release a minor update version 15.27.19.25. Try this one and if you're still having problems message me in chat, I will be happy to help you as much as I can. Bye.

[marcobona]

Due to the La-5 ser.8 specs changed a new english & spanish version 15.27.19.25 has been released. This version includes new speed values also for La-5F ser.38.

 

Thanks to @Roland_HUNter for pointing out these changes and for giving me the correct values.

 

Remember! All speed values in this App are IN SIM tested values and they have no reference to the speeds reported in technical manuals or performance sheets tested in real flights! All data shown in my App are an aid for players to play better. Nothing More.

[primo62]

The new update 15 27 19 25  still creates an error. This is from the error

 

See the end of this message for details on invoking
just-in-time (JIT) debugging instead of this dialog box.

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System.InvalidOperationException: An error occurred creating the form. See Exception.InnerException for details.  The error is: Class not registered (Exception from HRESULT: 0x80040154 (REGDB_E_CLASSNOTREG)) ---> System.Runtime.InteropServices.COMException: Class not registered (Exception from HRESULT: 0x80040154 (REGDB_E_CLASSNOTREG))
   at System.Windows.Forms.UnsafeNativeMethods.CoCreateInstance(Guid& clsid, Object punkOuter, Int32 context, Guid& iid)
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   at System.Windows.Forms.NativeWindow.Callback(IntPtr hWnd, Int32 msg, IntPtr wparam, IntPtr lparam)

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IL2BOX
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************** JIT Debugging **************
To enable just-in-time (JIT) debugging, the .config file for this
application or computer (machine.config) must have the
jitDebugging value set in the system.windows.forms section.
The application must also be compiled with debugging
enabled.

For example:

<configuration>
    <system.windows.forms jitDebugging="true" />
</configuration>

When JIT debugging is enabled, any unhandled exception
will be sent to the JIT debugger registered on the computer
rather than be handled by this dialog box.

 

 

[marcobona]

@primo62 Try this:

 

Spoiler

In Windows Control Panel > Network and Internet > Internet Options, select Disable script debugging (Internet Explorer) and Disable script debugging (other). The exact steps and settings depend on your version of Windows and your browser.

 

Edited November 1, 2023 by marcobona

[primo62]

Both of those were already disabled

[marcobona]

3 minutes ago, primo62 said:

Both of those were already disabled

 

So uncheck them!

Edited November 1, 2023 by marcobona

[primo62]

Both  are now unchecked, restarted pc  app still getting error.

[marcobona]

17 minutes ago, primo62 said:

Both  are now unchecked, restarted pc  app still getting error.

 

Ok. Since this is only a your pc problem, please continue this in Chat. Send me a message and I'll try to assist you.

[marcobona]

A new english & spanish version 15.29.20.25 has been released.

 

- Corrected loadouts values of C-47A, Li-2 and Ju-52/3M.

- Improved the "View Video" section.

- Now in the "Scenario" section all Allies and Axix planes are in alphabetical order.

- Fixed some bugs and various improvements.

[marcobona]

A new english & spanish version 15.30.20.25 has been released.

 

- Modified Scenario: now it reports all planes present in each airfield throughout the phase.
- Fixed some bugs and various improvements.

[Dauntless]

[Youtch]

This application keep getting better and better.

 

Given all the data you have it would be interesting if you could establish for each category and per type of plane and country some type of ranking.

To check which one has the greatest turn rate or speed or power to weight ratio.

 

Just a suggestion as a nice to have.

[marcobona]

8 minutes ago, Youtch said:

Just a suggestion as a nice to have.

 

Nice idea. I'll work on it

[marcobona]

A new english & spanish version 16.30.20.25 has been released.

 

- Added a new Planes Ranking section, only for flyable planes, for every scenario phase.
- Fixed some bugs and various improvements.

[Roland_HUNter]

6 hours ago, marcobona said:

A new english & spanish version 16.30.20.25 has been released.

 

- Added a new Planes Ranking section, only for flyable planes, for every scenario phase.
- Fixed some bugs and various improvements.

The only problem with the ranking is that the 109s and 190s have the climb rate in combat mode, not emergency. For the MW-50 109s this is especially important!
But the same is true for Spit IX, the climb rate is not set to 3000 RPM by default, and the 150 octane also increases the climb rate.

[Youtch]

Many thanks for implementing this, your app is really becoming THE reference for IL2.

 

I like the visual interface you prepared for ranking. It was a pleasant surprise to see the plane pics appearing.

 

I was initially thinking that the ranking would be more open with more parameters to choose from when establishing a ranking, not only the associated great battle.

 

So that people would be able to choose criteria for the compaison such as showing ranking per type of plane or accross all planes (to be able to compare fighters with jabos), per country or not, per year or not, with standard or boosted version mono engine vs bi-engine.

 

It would also be good not to limit it to only to the top 3, to avoid similar versions of the same plane canibalizing all the first places, and to indicate the actual values of speed/turn rate/ to appreciate the difference between 2 planes close in ranking.

 

All these are just suggestions to make a fantastic app even greater. I am fully aware of the amount of effort you put to bring together such an amount of comprehensive material into one app.

[marcobona]

First of all thank you for your appreciation about my app and for your reports and suggestions. Now my answers:

 

13 minutes ago, Youtch said:

I was initially thinking that the ranking would be more open with more parameters to choose from when establishing a ranking, not only the associated great battle.

 

In my opinion it doesn't make much sense to compare aircraft outside of their historical phase. My app is just a help for players. Whoever fights in a certain phase (Moscow for example) only has the plane available in that phase and a comparison between a BF-109 F-4 and a P-51B-5 (available only in the Normandy phase) has no history.

 

18 minutes ago, Youtch said:

So that people would be able to choose criteria for the compaison such as showing ranking per type of plane or accross all planes (to be able to compare fighters with jabos), per country or not, per year or not, with standard or boosted version mono engine vs bi-engine.

 

How would comparing the performance of a fighter to a fighter-bomber help in a competition? They are too different, each with its specific role. Furthermore, for this there is the main page of the app with the compare button! A more accurate comparison like the one you are asking for would involve an enormous amount of work resulting in a burdensome app, which is already exploding!?Rather, in the future I can think about creating another app dedicated to precisely this type of comparison you ask for.

 

28 minutes ago, Youtch said:

It would also be good not to limit it to only to the top 3, to avoid similar versions of the same plane canibalizing all the first places, and to indicate the actual values of speed/turn rate/ to appreciate the difference between 2 planes close in ranking.

 

As I said before, that's what the compare button is for. The three-plane limit is only due to window space reasons. Many have complained about the size of my app's windows and so I've tried to keep them small.

 

Please do not consider these answers of mine as a criticism or polemic towards you. I really appreciate your suggestions and hope there will be many more in the future. This is very important to me because it pushes me to make improvements.

 

Finally, I'm working with @Roland_HUNter to better verify the Rate of Climb values and make any corrections. Once the tests are finished I will see what I can do to change the interface of the Ranking window.

 

My best regards

[Youtch]

Thanks, Marco for your answer. I fully understand.

[gpereira74]

This is the first post of a newbie here just to say that your app is really amazing. Kudos to you @marcobona!

[marcobona]

Due to the latest official 5.201 Update a new english & spanish version 17.31.21.28 has been released.

 

- Added new IAR 80-A plane and CG-4A glider in the main App.

- Added IAR 80-A in Stalingrad and Kuban Scenario.

- Some graphical changes to the main Window App and in the Window Scenario.

- Fixed some bugs and various improvements.

In the next release me and @Roland_HUNter should have completed testing the Rate of Climb for each plane so we can add them to the app. As well as for the IAS speed values, so even the Rate of Climb values will be "In Sim" ones and not necessarily the same as the real ones. As I like to repeat this is an app for players to play better, not an engineering treaty!

[BubiHUN]

WOW!
Fantastic work!

[Tonester]

This is great…would be good if it worked on my ipad so i can refer to it like a kneeboard….probably a bit much to ask lol…thanks so much for this regardless

[DragonDaddy]

18 hours ago, Tonester said:

This is great…would be good if it worked on my ipad so i can refer to it like a kneeboard….probably a bit much to ask lol…thanks so much for this regardless

Haven’t done this yet but I’m going to see if this will work on my iPad using duet. 
 

Update: This works on iPad using duet. 

Edited January 6, 2024 by DragonDaddy
Update

[marcobona]

A new english & spanish version 18.32.22.28 has been released.

 
- Now the main App reports all new Rate of Climb values. The each value were tested directly "In Sim" for each plane at three different altitude, using the Kuban Autumn map, in certain conditions of fuel load %, default load (cargo for transports and bombs for bombers), best engine, best performance mods, best weather conditions (no clouds, no wind, 12.00 time).
- In the main window App hovering mouse over Rate of Climb value you can get the % of fuel loaded, the mods installed and the default load to achieve that result.
- In Ranking window hovering the mouse on pictures you can get performance info about any plane.
- Fixed some bugs and various improvements.

Please note that all these new Rate of Climb values can differ significantly from the real ones or those provided by the game manual, but they're still useful for players to play better.

 

All this work would not have been possible without the precious help and support of @Roland_HUNter who tested all the values with me and gave me advice and suggestions to obtain maximum precision.
 

Edited January 21, 2024 by marcobona

[marcobona]

A new english & spanish version 18.32.22.29 has been released.

 
- In the main window App hovering mouse over Max IAS value you can get the % of fuel loaded and the mods installed to achieve that result, in addition to Nominal IAS values.
- Fixed some bugs and minor improvements.

[marcobona]

Due to the latest official 5.202 Update a new english & spanish version 18.33.25.36 has been released.

 

- Added new IAR 80-B and Spitfire Mk.IXc planes in the main App.

- Added IAR 80-B in Stalingrad and Kuban Scenario.

- Added Spitfire Mk.IXc in Normandy and Bodebplatte Scenario.

- Corrected some Speed and Rate of Climb values due to some FM planes changes (a special thanks to @Roland_HUNter for his help).

- Now in the main App, when there will be an update, a link notification will alert you.

- Fixed some bugs and various graphical improvements.

Edited March 2, 2024 by marcobona

[flugkapitan]

Thank you for all the work you do to keep this most useful and wonderful app updated!

 

Cheers ??

Scott

[marcobona]

A new english & spanish version 18.34.25.37 has been released.

 

- Added ChangeLog report in the About info form.
- Fixed some bugs and various improvements.

[JMax]

Thank you for this fantastic app. Unfortunately,although I can download the file ,I just cant  extract it.

[JMax]

Solved. Needed to be extracted with 7Zip instead of the native windows tool. Thanks again for your work!

[=gRiJ=Roman-]

I love this App. Thanks a million.

Could I make a suggestion? I don´t know if this is possible or not but, what about adding the Pilot Notes into the app?

It would a great way of merging essential info and be handy easily.

Just my two cents

[marcobona]

1 minute ago, =gRiJ=Roman- said:

what about adding the Pilot Notes into the app?

 

Well idea! I'll working on it. Bye

[marcobona]

A new english & spanish version 19.34.26.39 has been released.

 

- Added Pilot's Notes in main windows (many thanks to @SAS_Storebror and @Charlo-VR for their works).
- Reviewed some details in all 109s cockpit pictures.
- Fixed some bugs and various improvements.

 

 

Edited March 21, 2024 by marcobona