How to turn off the hurricane buzzer?

[greybeard_52]

I am stressed by the constant sound of the buzzer that warns me to have the throttle at minimum and the landing gear retracted. During a long descent it is unbearable. Please, is there any way to disable it?

[RNAS10_Oliver]

I would rather it continue to exist tbh.

 

This was something I noticed when first trying the Hurricane. The buzzer in the Spitfires in game was made to just buzz for a few seconds. Because was thought the realistic operation would be annoying IIRC so did that as an compromise.

 

But tbh I do not find it annoying in the Hurricane and hoped they had changed their mind and that this could also be reverted on the Spitfires. Alas the 14 has the buzzer cutout after some seconds also. ?

Edited April 28, 2021 by Oliver88

[busdriver]

7 hours ago, greybeard_52 said:

I am stressed by the constant sound of the buzzer that warns me to have the throttle at minimum and the landing gear retracted. During a long descent it is unbearable. Please, is there any way to disable it?

 

Have you tried advancing the throttle just a bit, enough to cancel the gear warning?

[greybeard_52]

4 hours ago, busdriver said:

Have you tried advancing the throttle just a bit, enough to cancel the gear warning?

Yes sure. But the sound is already activated below 30% throttle and I cannot decelerate enough with the throttle above this threshold; keep in mind that 33-35% throttle is enough to maintain the cruising speed of 300 km / h set by PWCG.

[greybeard_52]

I have tried to find where this game hides the sounds, without success. I'm afraid the only solution for me is to stop playing Hurricane. I'm sorry for the money I spent on it!

[busdriver]

7 hours ago, greybeard_52 said:

Yes sure. But the sound is already activated below 30% throttle and I cannot decelerate enough with the throttle above this threshold; keep in mind that 33-35% throttle is enough to maintain the cruising speed of 300 km / h set by PWCG.

Okay, so you obviously know that the gear warning threshold as modeled in game matches the Pilot’s Notes. I’ve not played a Hurricane career in PWCG (lately) but 300 km/h is TOO SLOW of a cruise speed IMO. I think it’s fine if you’re “sauntering” around waiting for waves of bombers to cross the Channel on their way to bomb Fighter Command airfields. Have you tried editing the enroute cruise airspeed,  bumping it up to ~400 km/h? That’s what I did for ALL my Hurricane missions.

 

I found this suggestion I made to Patrick back in January. I'm guessing he did not agree. But don't let that stop you from editing the cruise airspeed, it didn't stop me.

 

 

 

Edited April 29, 2021 by busdriver
Added link for post I made about PWCG Hurricane speed.

[greybeard_52]

2 hours ago, busdriver said:

Okay, so you obviously know that the gear warning threshold as modeled in game matches the Pilot’s Notes.

Actually not, but that looks to me not "british"; a true gentleman doesn't make all that noise!?

 

2 hours ago, busdriver said:

300 km/h is TOO SLOW

 

2 hours ago, busdriver said:

Have you tried editing the enroute cruise airspeed,  bumping it up to ~400 km/h?

You are right about the cruising speed; in fact, I had already tried to increase it to 350, without being able to solve the problem. Now I'll try 400. In fact, the historic cruising speed was only 244km / h (IAS) but at 6096m!. Thanks for your kind reply.

[busdriver]

No worries mate. 

[jollyjack]

23 hours ago, greybeard_52 said:

I am stressed by the constant sound of the buzzer that warns me to have the throttle at minimum and the landing gear retracted. During a long descent it is unbearable. Please, is there any way to disable it?

 

You got me curious, as i never noticed it; i always switch off all sounds ...

[ZachariasX]

On 4/28/2021 at 7:53 PM, greybeard_52 said:

During a long descent it is unbearable. Please, is there any way to disable it?

In the real plane, your sparks would be fouled if you did that and you‘d make a dead stick landing. It certainly was a good idea to have that horn.

 

Just dive where you want to go, it‘s a fighter.

[Chief_Mouser]

On 4/28/2021 at 6:53 PM, greybeard_52 said:

I am stressed by the constant sound of the buzzer that warns me to have the throttle at minimum and the landing gear retracted. During a long descent it is unbearable. Please, is there any way to disable it?

 

It's a feature of the aircraft and is telling you that you are doing something wrong. What's the problem?

[greybeard_52]

10 hours ago, busdriver said:

Have you tried editing the enroute cruise airspeed,  bumping it up to ~400 km/h?

I have implemented your 400 km / h suggestion and now it is much better. My ears thank you!?

5 hours ago, jollyjack said:

i never noticed it; i always switch off all sounds ...

I think I know why you never noticed ...?

2 hours ago, ZachariasX said:

In the real plane, your sparks would be fouled...

I don't question it, but this is just a simulation; I only play single player and I follow my AI leader in the descent to the airport, and not even him the spark plugs get dirty ...? That's why, in my opinion, also the warning horn should be suppressed or limited in time: because realism can't be done only halfway.

[busdriver]

 

@ZachariasX and @216th_Catin his defense, I think our mate @greybeard_52 initially omitted that this was PWCG related.  Cruising into combat at "max saunter" trying to stay behind your Flight Lead could be headache inducing. It didn't dawn on me until he mentioned PWCG. 

 

 

 

17 minutes ago, greybeard_52 said:

I have implemented your 400 km / h suggestion and now it is much better. My ears thank you!?

 

We're here to help. 

[jollyjack]

the versatility of this game has no limits .... too addictive; it needs a buzzer itself according my wife, as safety valve for social life

[ZachariasX]

6 hours ago, greybeard_52 said:

I don't question it, but this is just a simulation; I only play single player and I follow my AI leader in the descent to the airport, and not even him the spark plugs get dirty ...? That's why, in my opinion, also the warning horn should be suppressed or limited in time: because realism can't be done only halfway.

True, you‘re right. In this context it would be desireable... I don‘t play offline much, so I don‘t run in this issue.

 

I guess that is when you put down the headphones or turn off the speakers...

[busdriver]

@greybeard_52 in order to save some time editing each nav leg's speed, you might consider this fairly easy JSON file edit technique. Find the "hurricanemkii" JSON file located in the PWCGBoS > BoSData > Input > Aircraft folder. Open that JSON file and notice its default "cruisingSpeed" is 300.

 

 

Change 300 to the value you want. I chose 390 since that's just over 240 mph. Save that file after you change the value.

 

 

I started a new Hurricane campaign and this is what I got on the Waypoint edit page.

 

 

WARNING: This will NOT affect the Cruise Speed in previously created Hurricane careers. They will continue to show 300 and you will need to edit each leg.

 

 

 

Edited April 30, 2021 by busdriver

[jollyjack]

is this only for PWCG, or are there some defaults for IL2 possible or necessary?

[greybeard_52]

2 hours ago, busdriver said:

you might consider this fairly easy JSON file edit technique

GREAT! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!

 

This will save me lots of time also for all other fighters I fly!

[busdriver]

3 hours ago, jollyjack said:

is this only for PWCG, or are there some defaults for IL2 possible or necessary?

Only PWCG.

 

[Chief_Mouser]

5 hours ago, busdriver said:

@greybeard_52 in order to save some time editing each nav leg's speed, you might consider this fairly easy JSON file edit technique. Find the "hurricanemkii" JSON file located in the PWCGBoS > BoSData > Input > Aircraft folder. Open that JSON file and notice its default "cruisingSpeed" is 300.

 

 

Change 300 to the value you want. I chose 390 since that's just over 240 mph. Save that file after you change the value.

 

 

I started a new Hurricane campaign and this is what I got on the Waypoint edit page.

 

 

WARNING: This will NOT affect the Cruise Speed in previously created Hurricane careers. They will continue to show 300 and you will need to edit each leg.

 

 

 

 

 

That's a great tip - thanks! I'd been doing it manually .

Cheers!

[Dragon1-1]

On 4/28/2021 at 11:09 PM, Oliver88 said:

This was something I noticed when first trying the Hurricane. The buzzer in the Spitfires in game was made to just buzz for a few seconds. Because was thought the realistic operation would be annoying IIRC so did that as an compromise.

As far as realistic operation goes, the damn thing has an off switch. I actually find Spitfire more reasonable given Il-2's control limitations. If you ignore the buzzer long enough, you automatically turn it off. In the Hurricane it does get annoying if you're a little fast in the pattern and are trying to slow down to gear deployment speed.

[Chief_Mouser]

I find that if you pull back on the RPMs you will have far more leeway using the throttle before the buzzer starts.

[RNAS10_Oliver]

7 hours ago, Dragon1-1 said:

As far as realistic operation goes, the damn thing has an off switch. I actually find Spitfire more reasonable given Il-2's control limitations. If you ignore the buzzer long enough, you automatically turn it off. In the Hurricane it does get annoying if you're a little fast in the pattern and are trying to slow down to gear deployment speed.

 

Your right about the switch, at least with regards to the Spitfire V, had to recheck the pilot notes and forgotten about that. However the Spitfire IX notes the horn is stated as only existing in early aircraft and that it cannot be silenced unless throttle is opened or undercarriage lowered, there is no switch available in that one. Though odd also is that am having trouble seeing either switch or horn mentioned in the Hurricane II or Spitfire XIV notes (an warning light taking its place in the former). So maybe this horns existence in the Hurricane and XIV are indeed errors to begin with?

Edited May 5, 2021 by Oliver88