Gun sight problem

[passion]

Hello All,

 

I'm having a problem with my gunsight.

I see the sight with both of my eyes and need to move my head left or right to have a correct gunsight.

If I look straight ahead the gunsight is blurred, looking at with left eye is far left and with right eye is far right.

 

I'm using odyssey+ hmd and it was working fine before.

Some updates happened and now it's faulty.

IPD is correct everything else is fine just the gunsight is problematic but that is ruining the gameplay.

 

Tried with the standard migoto, the one for the odyssey+ and vanilla (no mod).

Same result.

Any idea what could be wrong?

 

 

Edited April 4, 2020 by passion

[O_DesoLunatic]

Have you tried adjusting your IPD in-game? 

Edited April 4, 2020 by desolunatic

[-332FG-Gordon200]

@passion  You can adjust your seat position in the cockpit to change your point of view. You'll also want to offset the gun sight for VR. By default the cross hairs will be between your eyes. For VR you should shift left or right depending on your dominate eye. I aim with my right eye so I shift the cross hairs to the left of the gun sight.

 

To adjust your seat position use the Delete, End, Page Up, Page Down, Home and Insert keys. Delete=Left, End=Right, Page Up=Up, Page Down=Down, Home+Back, Insert=Forward. I find it easier to make the adjustments in 2D and save changes. You should have a key mapped for Default VR View in Pilot Head Control settings. Start a Quick Mission and make adjustments then press F10 to save. When you press your key for Default VR view it will return you to this position.

 

You will need to do this for every plane in your inventory.

[passion]

2 hours ago, desolunatic said:

Have you tried adjusting your IPD in-game? 

No, how can I do that?

@Gordon200

Thanks I'll try that.

@Gordon200 Unfortunately no effect pressing the the PgUp PgDn, Home, Ins, Del, End buttons. Nothing happening.

I also tried resetting the position by deleting svc file which stores the position. The deafult position has the same effect.

 

 

 

[-332FG-Gordon200]

2 hours ago, passion said:

@Gordon200 Unfortunately no effect pressing the the PgUp PgDn, Home, Ins, Del, End buttons. Nothing happening.

I also tried resetting the position by deleting svc file which stores the position. The deafult position has the same effect.

I haven't heard of that problem before.

Are you trying to make changes while the game is paused? Will not work unless game is running.

Start a Quick Mission and press P to start. Let the plane continue on auto pilot and press the Delete etc keys. You should see the gun sight move. Press F10 to save the new position as your default.

[O_DesoLunatic]

6 hours ago, passion said:

No, how can I do that?

 

 

 

 

I can't remember if there is a bind for it but there is or_ipd  value in startup.cfg in IL-2 Sturmovik Battle of Stalingrad\data folder.

[passion]

@Gordon200 I did it using the quick play mode in VR not paused with autopilot could be the key bindings are conflicting I'll check it.

Nevertheless the sit position is ok it is in center just the sight is not.

@desolunatic: Thanks I found it, it seems ok, I'll try to change the value and see what's happening.

[passion]

OK finally found the way to fix problem.

If anybody has the same problem th workaround is:

Position keys don't work in VR.

You need to disable the "limit VR" view option in order to be able to position your headset.

Next you need to position your head to left or right and when you see the reticle correctly and press F10 to save the position.

 

[haltux]

On 4/4/2020 at 5:57 PM, Gordon200 said:

@passion   You'll also want to offset the gun sight for VR. By default the cross hairs will be between your eyes. For VR you should shift left or right depending on your dominate eye.

 

Sorry, what? You can do that? For all planes? For Aldis scope as well? It is something about my favorite plane, the SPAD XIII, the cross hair is on the right, but my domianting eye is the left one. I cannot decide wether I should aim with my non-dominating eye or wether I should put my head further on the right ?

[-332FG-Gordon200]

4 hours ago, haltux said:

You can do that? For all planes?

Yes. To have the proper seat position and align with the gun sight in VR you need to do the above procedure I outlined with each plane.

It will take some experimentation to achieve but once you get the right position the plane will be easier to control and feel more balanced. Without the adjustment I feel like I'm riding sidesaddle. In the Spit and P40 I felt like I was flying from the right rear seat of a sedan with default seat position.

[haltux]

16 hours ago, Gordon200 said:

Yes. To have the proper seat position and align with the gun sight in VR you need to do the above procedure I outlined with each plane.

It will take some experimentation to achieve but once you get the right position the plane will be easier to control and feel more balanced. Without the adjustment I feel like I'm riding sidesaddle. In the Spit and P40 I felt like I was flying from the right rear seat of a sedan with default seat position.

 

OK, you mean you move the head at the right position. I believed you were talking about moving the crosshair in the cockpit, physically (so to speak). On the Spad 13 the crosshair (and the Aldis lens) are on the right of the cockpit, if you move your default head position in such a way that your left eye will be aligned with it, your head will be way too much on the right, it will feel compeltely wrong. It leaves you the choice between using the right eye or moving your head when you aim. None of the solutions are satisfying.

 

I never used a rifle, but being right handed and having the left eye being the dominant, I would not have a satisfying solution either, with a rifle, in real life. I never though about that before but after a quick google search, I found I am not the first one to think about that, there are actually articles specifically adressing this issue: https://www.at3tactical.com/blogs/news/cross-eye-dominant-shooting

 

 

 

[-332FG-Gordon200]

@haltux For those planes that have the gun sight on the right of the center line you will need to use your right eye to aim.

[passion]

After using this I see this as a workaround and not fix.

So If I have the right reticle position I'm sitting right not center of the plane.

This must be some kind of bug.

I'm surprised that no one is complaining just me.

Also with migoto mod states it's can be disabled for one eye but all I can set with Shift+K is the brightness of the reticle but I see it with both of my eyes which is disturbing because one of them is not position correctly.

I made a full uninstall and reinstallation of the game the results are the same

Edited April 12, 2020 by passion

[RedeyeStorm]

Well I also fly VR and personally have the reticule centered and there fore not useable directly. I always shift my head to the left or right until I have a sharp reticule. Closing one eye is also an option although I prefer to shift my head. I believe this would be an issue in real life as well. After all that is why the German fighter have there gunsights off set to the right. 
 

A LW pilot with a dominant left eye wouldn’t be able to hit the proverbial barn me thinks!

[Bullets]

Passion, I have this issue with the sights as well. I am centered correctly in the cockpit in front of the sight however I see two sight reticles that don't sit over each other correctly. My IPD has been set correctly in the .cfg file and in the WMR software..

[=EXPEND=Tripwire]

16 hours ago, [Pb]RedeyeStorm said:

A LW pilot with a dominant left eye wouldn’t be able to hit the proverbial barn me thinks!

 

I have a dominant left eye, and do fine in the 109 in VR. Iron sights would be a different story, but not the Revi reflector sights, they awesome.

[Bullets]

A kind user from the Combat Box discord server helped me out passion. Install this MOD and use the IPD offset adjustment tool in it. Completely fixes the gunsight issuse we were having. 

 

You want to press Alt F9 while in game, then Shift + end / pgd down until the gunsights are alligned.

[passion]

@Bullets Thanks for the reply.

Could you please let me know what HMD are you using?

 

As I stated before I tried it with mod and without mod, also I modified the ingame IPD which had no effect.

It has nothing to do with dominant eye thing, this was working before correctly (at least in december and before).

Also there is position problem if I move my head the cockpit is moving with my head. I can't move my head outside of the cockpit when the canopy is open.

Since the problem is with version 4 and up I filed a bug report for this:

 

[Bullets]

I use the HP Reverb. If you use WMR have you tried resetting your boundarys in the WMR software, whenever I get a tracking issue I just do that and it fixes it!

[passion]

@Bullets I use sitting position only. No boundaries are set because of this.

 

[Bullets]

I know so do I. You can select sitting mode when you do.