DCS

[Guest deleted@83466]

The great thing about DCS helicopters is that you can always challenge yourself in ways that have nothing to do with weapons or war.  You can be flying along, and simply say “let’s land there as quickly as possible” and then challenge yourself to a challenging approach.  You can practice engine out landings, or do sling loads, or chase cars like in some 70’s, 80’s show like the A-Team.

[Gambit21]

10 minutes ago, SeaSerpent said:

The great thing about DCS helicopters is that you can always challenge yourself in ways that have nothing to do with weapons or war.  You can be flying along, and simply say “let’s land there as quickly as possible” and then challenge yourself to a challenging approach.  You can practice engine out landings, or do sling loads, or chase cars like in some 70’s, 80’s show like the A-Team.

 

Ooh yes, we can pick up Magnum and the fun ensues.

 

 

 

[Guest deleted@83466]

Yep, you got where I was going with that thought, Gambit-baby.

 

(But I raise you Murdoch and Mr. T.)

 

 

Edited January 24, 2023 by SeaSerpent

[Gambit21]

Ok Ok...I feel you on the A-Team. It's classic...let me raise you a...

240 Robert scene with Morgan (played by Joanna Cassidy) that 9 year old me had a huge, HUGE crush on.

They always more or less made here the hero of the stories too.

 

 

 

 

[AngleOff66]

VSN F-4 Flyable mod.  Skin pack coming.  It is free, and can tide you over till the HB F-4?

 

Another video:

 

 

[Gambit21]

8 minutes ago, AngleOff66 said:

VSN F-4 Flyable mod.  Skin pack coming.  It is free, and can tide you over till the HB F-4?

 

Another video:

 

 

 

 

Thanks but nah...

No point in a mod at this juncture with the F-4 not only announced, but VERY close.

That does stir my blood though! Thanks for posting that! 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[busdriver]

17 hours ago, DD_Arthur said:

Wonder if Busdriver could tell us anything about the ‘Farmer’?

 

BIG cannons...very high fuel consumption, meaning very short legs...crap for radar, worse than the F-5's.

 

As a side note, on 10 May 1972 the USAF's top air-to-air F-4 crew (Lodge & Locher) of the 555th TFS were shotdown by MiG-19s whilst taking an AIM-7 shot at a MiG-21. Major Robert Lodge was "the man" in regards to the use of Combat Tree (IFF interrogator) kit on certain F-4Ds. At the time folks speculated that Lodge stayed with the jet as it crashed rather than being captured. His WSO, Roger Locher famously evaded for 23 days in North Vietnam before being rescued.

[Guest deleted@83466]

I also read that Gen Olds (probably in his autobiography) was so pissed off about that particular event that he even requested a reduction back to Col to go back and take charge and straighten things out, but they said no, so I think that’s when he retired.

[DBFlyguy]

 

[SCG_motoadve]

Is there a map we can see while in VR? I tried mapping Theater map view to my joystick and cannot get to show up when I press the button.

What is the command to see the VR map in flight please?

[Guest deleted@83466]

A few random screenshots, for the heck of it

 

 

 

 

 

[creamersdream]

I am thinking about purchasing a few DCS WWII items on steam. What would you guys suggest I should start with first. Planes/ Maps/ Campaigns? My self I was thinking about the p-47 for first plane. The WWII content for the game is quite small in comparison to the modern content. Will there be more added in the future?  

[Gambit21]

33 minutes ago, creamersdream said:

I am thinking about purchasing a few DCS WWII items on steam. What would you guys suggest I should start with first. Planes/ Maps/ Campaigns?

 

Jug is the best WWII from what I hear (thus it's the only WWII aircraft I own so far) however @dburne is very much enjoying the Spit and the campaign he has started.

There's no 9th AF Jug campaign so far, but Reflected does have an 8th AF campaign for it.

Maybe more content for the Spit right now, but perhaps not as well carried out as the Jug. I'll let those that have both comment further.

 

When it coms, I will only be flying the Corsair in WWII until the Hellcat and a Japanese plane arrive.

 

 

33 minutes ago, creamersdream said:

The WWII content for the game is quite small in comparison to the modern content. Will there be more added in the future?  

 

Yes! A Normandy map expansion, and PTO is being heavily developed.

As far as more campaigns, it's hard to say. Long term it may be the Dynamic Campaign that saves the day there.

 

 

[DBFlyguy]

9 minutes ago, creamersdream said:

I am thinking about purchasing a few DCS WWII items on steam. What would you guys suggest I should start with first. Planes/ Maps/ Campaigns? My self I was thinking about the p-47 for first plane. The WWII content for the game is quite small in comparison to the modern content. Will there be more added in the future?  

You'll need a map, plane and the WWII assets pack a minimum. I'd suggest the Channel Islands as the map since Normandy is getting updated to 2.0 eventually (not sure how far out it is).  I currently have the P-47 and Spitfire, the P-47 in DCS is a massive breath of fresh air compared to the Great Battles versions!  More WWII action is coming with the F4U Corsair (which will include a carrier and some enemy AI assets), recently announced F6F Hellcat and there is a WWII version of the Marianas map coming, WWII is looking good for DCS

 

 

Also, your name, I can't help but think of a Tuskegee Airman, Charles White and his P-51:

 

 

 

[Gambit21]

15 minutes ago, DBFlyguy said:

You'll need a map, plane and the WWII assets pack a minimum. I'd suggest the Channel Islands as the map since Normandy is getting updated to 2.0 eventually (not sure how far out it is).  I currently have the P-47 and Spitfire, the P-47 in DCS is a massive breath of fresh air compared to the Great Battles versions!  More WWII action is coming with the F4U Corsair (which will include a carrier and some enemy AI assets), recently announced F6F Hellcat and there is a WWII version of the Marianas map coming, WWII is looking good for DCS

 

 

Also, your name, I can't help but think of a Tuskegee Airman, Charles White and his P-51:

 

 

 

 

There was a 352nd pilot named "Dick Creamer"

 

 

[SCG_motoadve]

I bought the P51, 109, and P47, I agree the P47 is the nicest one, also the Channel map is very nice, version 2.0 is coming but if you have the previous Channel map you only pay $9.00.

Currently everything is at a discounted price, I might end up buying the Spit, the 190 and Mosquito.

You can get a free trial of any plane and map for 14 days , which is a great way to test the planes.

 

 

[Skelthos]

3 minutes ago, SCG_motoadve said:

You can get a free trial of any plane and map for 14 days , which is a great way to test the planes.

 The free trial is awesome, just wanted to throw out there to use it you have to us the stand along DCS launcher from their website, free trials are not available if you are using the Steam version. They do make it very easy to transfer your licenses to stand alone if you want to though, and all your Steam licenses will transfer. 

[Robli]

I am also considering, if I should get more deeply into DCS WWII. I have the Mustang and Dora currently, but no WWII maps or assets. I see that there is a Channel Map bundle on sale right now, but I just wonder if there really is enough gameplay or action for WWII in DCS. Maybe I will just wait for the Corsair.

 

Am also considering a new modern module besides Hornet. F-15E seems interesting, but two man crew creates some doubts, especially as it will be without AI crew mate during early access. Maybe Viper? 

F-4 is coming and also interesting and would give me fixed wing aircraft for Vietnam era, too, but it also has a two man crew. 

[Alexmarine]

14 minutes ago, Robli said:

Am also considering a new modern module besides Hornet. F-15E seems interesting, but two man crew creates some doubts, especially as it will be without AI crew mate during early access. Maybe Viper? 

F-4 is coming and also interesting and would give me fixed wing aircraft for Vietnam era, too, but it also has a two man crew. 

 

Maybe Harrier or Warthog if strike oriented, Mirage 2000 if A2A oriented (all three perfect for early 2000/2010s timeframe to go along the Hornet)

[Lusekofte]

44 minutes ago, Alexmarine said:

 

Maybe Harrier or Warthog if strike oriented, Mirage 2000 if A2A oriented (all three perfect for early 2000/2010s timeframe to go along the Hornet)

I am almost there. Pull the trigger to climb the extracted ladder into A 10 cockpit. For two reasons. 
It got pedigree 

And it got ocean of campaign 

 

ok 3 reasons

it is dead cool. Much cooler than that pussy ride hornet

[Trooper117]

I've just got the Nevada and Persian Gulf maps in the sale... only the South Atlantic map left to get now and I have them all.

Also picked up the F-5E Tiger II... a nice little jet that one.

[Koziolek]

I did the same, plus Hornet and Supercarrier

[Guest deleted@83466]

 

40 minutes ago, Lusekofte said:

I am almost there. Pull the trigger to climb the extracted ladder into A 10 cockpit. For two reasons. 
It got pedigree 

And it got ocean of campaign 

 

ok 3 reasons

it is dead cool. Much cooler than that pussy ride hornet

 

I would be careful of the C model A-10.  It is a nightmare of complexity.  

[Gambit21]

3 minutes ago, SeaSerpent said:

 

 

I would be careful of the C model A-10.  It is a nightmare of complexity.  

I’d really like a full-fidelity, 2023 standard, Gulf War era A-10A. 

[Robli]

5 hours ago, Alexmarine said:

Maybe Harrier or Warthog if strike oriented, Mirage 2000 if A2A oriented

 

Warthog is very interesting, but I have read a lot, how it is very complex to learn and very easy to forget, if you put it on a shelf for a month or two. 

Harrier or M2000 would probable make more sense than Viper and bring something different, as I already have the Hornet. I guess I will need to do a test drive on these modules.

[WWChunk]

The A-10 is not that hard to learn and you can do almost everything via the HOTAS. It just takes practice and reps to get everything committed to memory. 

Edited January 25, 2023 by WWChunk

[Guest deleted@83466]

 

20 minutes ago, WWChunk said:

The A-10 is not that hard to learn and you can do almost everything via the HOTAS. It just takes practice and reps to get everything committed to memory. 

The muscle memory required to master all the HOTAS movements on a Thrusmaster Warthog joystick and throttle flummoxed me like no other plane. (Edit). It doesn’t seem like something that your Lusekofte type guy, who can’t even fire a Mav from a Hornet would take to the A-10C as an exciting new purchase.  ?So therefore, I discouraged him from that.

 

 

Edited January 25, 2023 by SeaSerpent

[Gambit21]

45 minutes ago, WWChunk said:

The A-10 is not that hard to learn and you can do almost everything via the HOTAS. It just takes practice and reps to get everything committed to memory. 

 

It's relative I guess. I can learn anything given enough time and repetition. Only so much playtime available though.

[Guest deleted@83466]

Maybe I’m just retarded,but the A-10c makes the Hornet just nothing at all, and I’m not talking flying wise (A-10C flies easy), because it’s the systems I’m talking about.  I mean “two short presses on the coolie hat, followed by a down press on the boat switch.  Unless you’re in X mode, where that cues up the landing mode on the HUD.? But if you had been smart you would have pushed the China hat up to transition to other mode beforehand.  I can fly all kinds of stuff in this game, and some very well, but I guess A-10C is the like sound barrier for me?

 

 

Edited January 25, 2023 by SeaSerpent

[Lusekofte]

1 hour ago, SeaSerpent said:

It doesn’t seem like something that your Lusekofte type guy, who can’t even fire a Mav from a Hornet would take to the A-10C as an exciting new purchase.  ?So therefore, I discouraged him from that.

Oh I owned A10C since it came out. Learned the startup navigation and ditched the weapon part. It is really the reason I have not learned the hornet and Apache systems either. I feel I have to do A 10 first. And you are right, it is not my cup of tea. But I am running out of campaigns. 

[Guest deleted@83466]

I’m going to recommend the JF-17 to you.  One of the least appreciated aircraft in the entire DCS world.

Edited January 25, 2023 by SeaSerpent

[Trooper117]

Some may find this interesting...

 

 

[Alexmarine]

8 hours ago, SeaSerpent said:

I’m going to recommend the JF-17 to you.  One of the least appreciated aircraft in the entire DCS world.

 

@Robli, Like @SeaSerpent said, the JF-17 is a great modern multirole module that fit a Red/Greenfor niche. I recommend it too even if it's not totally my plate (I would prefer a genuine Red modern plane ?)

[Robli]

I am leaning towards M-2000C. It seems quite fun and different from Hornet, so would bring something new in that sense. JF-17 is kind of interesting and certainly capable plane, based on some AI test missions that I have flown against it in Hornet, but it is a bit hard to put myself into a meaningful role or context, when flying it, regarding map etc.

When I was looking into M-2000C and read Stormbird reviews, Mirage F1 actually also seems interesting and would give a plane that fits in from Vietnam era all the way to current, as I understood that it will eventually have four different variants modelled. 

[AngleOff66]

JF-17 in the style of the F-104.Link to the skin.

https://www.digitalcombatsimulator.com/en/files/3308518/

 

[Alexmarine]

20 minutes ago, Robli said:

I am leaning towards M-2000C. It seems quite fun and different from Hornet, so would bring something new in that sense. JF-17 is kind of interesting and certainly capable plane, based on some AI test missions that I have flown against it in Hornet, but it is a bit hard to put myself into a meaningful role or context, when flying it, regarding map etc.

When I was looking into M-2000C and read Stormbird reviews, Mirage F1 actually also seems interesting and would give a plane that fits in from Vietnam era all the way to current, as I understood that it will eventually have four different variants modelled. 

 

On the F1 mind that their earliest version is still a Spanish model that was delivered in 1975 at the earliest (so no Vietnam for sure), also I do think that even this base version has some later addition as it was in use with the Spanish for a good time (btw, one of the version is also the two-seater version of the earliest model, basically the same plane but with less fuel and no internal guns)

Edited January 25, 2023 by Alexmarine

[Bremspropeller]

18 minutes ago, Robli said:

When I was looking into M-2000C and read Stormbird reviews, Mirage F1 actually also seems interesting and would give a plane that fits in from Vietnam era all the way to current, as I understood that it will eventually have four different variants modelled

 

The only "drawbacks" (depending on your personal liking) of the M2000 vs the JF are

- no targeting pod, so buddy-lazing is required

- no Fox 3s

- no GPS bombs

- no anti radar/anti shipping weapons

 

What it does have is probably the best radar implementation of the entire game. And it has a lot of heart. Plus it's a looker and it flies like a breeze.

 

The JF offers more toys, but some of that is very diffuse and relies on a brickton of guesswork. Plus it's supposedly a Frankenjet, while the M2000C is a pretty accurate rendition of the Mirage 2000C RDI.

[Alexmarine]

8 minutes ago, Bremspropeller said:

 

Plus it's supposedly a Frankenjet

 

The plane should be a standard JF-17A Block 2, the Block 3 was just launched in 2020 and with an AESA radar (which no DCS module had attempted to model yet afaik)

[DD_fruitbat]

Patch day today, hopefully we'll get another Mirage F1 in the patch.

 

Re JF-17, i don't know what it is about it, but i can't think of another jet that seems as bland to me, it just doesn't sing to me at all.

[Bremspropeller]

14 minutes ago, DD_fruitbat said:

Patch day today, hopefully we'll get another Mirage F1 in the patch.

 

Patchnotes are out ?