DCS

[Gambit21]

1 hour ago, Bremspropeller said:

 

Incredible, isn't it? Those perky funny flying-machines are actually fun to bimble around in!

 

 

 

A good time...but I have a bit until I'm 'operational' lol.

[Guest deleted@83466]

 

3 hours ago, LuseKofte said:

I am only into DCS because of the choppers. Love all of them . The BO is one I look forward to and the Kiowa

I’m keeping my expectations low for the Kiowa.  With the Gazelle, the third party group making it has managed to create one of the most controversial flight models in all of DCS.  I think I’ve literally read hundreds of negative critiques of it.  When video tutorials recommend things like reducing your X and Y saturations to 50% or whatever, and having to jump through a bunch of hoops to make it feel like a helicopter, screw that.  So I’m a bit skeptical of helicopters coming out of that workshop.  But meanwhile, that experimental group known as “Belsimtek”, which was really just ED all along, produced the UH-1, the Mi-8, the F-86, and the MiG-15…and the KA-50, although that was always just advertised as in-house .ED.  These are masterpieces.  Ostensibly, these are the same people working on the Mi-24, which has a way to go obviously.  And ED is making the Apache.

    In fairness, if the reviews come out and say the Kiowa is a good one, I’ll be glad to buy it.  And they say they are revising the FM of the Gazelle.  I’ll buy both of these modules when, and if, and am eager to do so.

 

    I don’t know what to think of the BO-105.  I’ve been reading that guy’s posts and seeing his renders for years and years.  Pretty sure it was prior to me even getting Rise of Flight, way back when.  And now it’s been taken up by some developer.  I had a game in the 1980s called Mech Brigade.  It was a turn based war game from SSI, Gary Grigsby.  The Soviets had the Hind, the British had the Lynx, and the W. Germans had the “PAH”, which was the BO-105 with the HOT missiles.  So I’m interested in the BO-105, and always have been, but like with the Kiowa, going to wait and see.

Edited July 18, 2021 by SeaSerpent
LoL, I’m probably buying Kiowa and BO on day one!

[Gambit21]

Well the impromptu first ever Nellis International Air show,  "Huey, up close and Personal" experience did not disappoint.

 

 

 

I'm getting worse the more time I spend flying it...it's very strange.

I only have maybe  40 minutes total over 6 or 7 flights mind you, but my first outing was by far my best.

[Guest deleted@83466]

Frankly, I think you should stick with a Cessna, in MSFS.

[Gambit21]

Some small progress I suppose.

Made 3 "safe" landings in Israel, meaning the chopper was in 1 piece, even if the landings resembled Hornet carrier traps more than anything.

Trying get that flare, hockey stop, soft landing. So far my only successful transition to a hover/landing was in my first 20 minutes!

 

Did some patrolling on Golan along the Syrian border.

I stood on the Golan Heights looking down at Galilee a few years back...it was spectacular...so it was fun to go back.

 

 

 

[Hoots]

1 hour ago, Gambit21 said:

Some small progress I suppose.

Made 3 "safe" landings in Israel, meaning the chopper was in 1 piece, even if the landings resembled Hornet carrier traps more than anything.

Trying get that flare, hockey stop, soft landing. So far my only successful transition to a hover/landing was in my first 20 minutes!

 

Did some patrolling on Golan along the Syrian border.

I stood on the Golan Heights looking down at Galilee a few years back...it was spectacular...so it was fun to go back.

 

 

 

I got better when I started flying planned circuits rather than ad hoc, trying to look good ones. 

[Bremspropeller]

7 hours ago, SeaSerpent said:

 

I’m keeping my expectations low for the Kiowa.  With the Gazelle, the third party group making it has managed to create one of the most controversial flight models in all of DCS.  I think I’ve literally read hundreds of negative critiques of it.  When video tutorials recommend things like reducing your X and Y saturations to 50% or whatever, and having to jump through a bunch of hoops to make it feel like a helicopter, screw that.  So I’m a bit skeptical of helicopters coming out of that workshop.  But meanwhile, that experimental group known as “Belsimtek”, which was really just ED all along, produced the UH-1, the Mi-8, the F-86, and the MiG-15…and the KA-50, although that was always just advertised as in-house .ED.  These are masterpieces.  Ostensibly, these are the same people working on the Mi-24, which has a way to go obviously.  And ED is making the Apache.

    In fairness, if the reviews come out and say the Kiowa is a good one, I’ll be glad to buy it.  And they say they are revising the FM of the Gazelle.  I’ll buy both of these modules when, and if, and am eager to do so.

 

    I don’t know what to think of the BO-105.  I’ve been reading that guy’s posts and seeing his renders for years and years.  Pretty sure it was prior to me even getting Rise of Flight, way back when.  And now it’s been taken up by some developer.  I had a game in the 1980s called Mech Brigade.  It was a turn based war game from SSI, Gary Grigsby.  The Soviets had the Hind, the British had the Lynx, and the W. Germans had the “PAH”, which was the BO-105 with the HOT missiles.  So I’m interested in the BO-105, and always have been, but like with the Kiowa, going to wait and see.

 

Yeah, I think it's a good idea to wait and see and possibly only buy modules during sales anyway (that's what I'm doing ATM).

 

There are some modules, though, that I'll pull the trigger on the moment they hit presale:

 

some of those are:

Mirage F1

Crusader

Corsair (both the F4U and the A-7E)

Intruder

 

Referring to the GZ - Casmo thinks it's alright. There are a couple of rough edges, but it doesn't detract from the immense amount of fun this module brings.

And I'm right there with him. I'm flying without curves at all. It doesn't look pretty all the time, but that's me and not the chopper and I'm getting a lot better each sortie.

 

The Bo looks like it's going to come out rather sooner than later (probably next year).

[Lusekofte]

10 hours ago, SeaSerpent said:

like reducing your X and Y saturations to 50% o

That would really kill the fun with Gazelle for me. If you look at real videos seeing it's incredible maneuvers. You can do it with a joystick with extention. I got a floor mounted stick. Enabling me to do tricks inside a hangar. In my point of view Gazelle is the most fun chopper we got. Huey the most iconic for me with a Vietnam interest and Mi8 the most real feel.

I am not yet convinced the Hind will be on my preference list. I have no vibes flying it. But I will fly it more

8 hours ago, Gambit21 said:

Well the impromptu first ever Nellis International Air show,  "Huey, up close and Personal" experience did not disappoint.

 

 

 

I'm getting worse the more time I spend flying it...it's very strange.

I only have maybe  40 minutes total over 6 or 7 flights mind you, but my first outing was by far my best.

Try flying with your fingertip. Start lift by holding stick slightly backward to the left. Rudder to left. Lift collective slowly correct the stick and rudder on how the chopper act before liftoff. 

Everything gentle but firm. You should be able to go straight into hover

Edited July 18, 2021 by LuseKofte

[Bremspropeller]

The Corsair will be @Gambit21 's chance at becoming BATMAN!

 

Quote

Introducing the S.W.O.D. 9 Mark 0 Bat Bomb! The great great grandfather of the JSOW. Developed in 1944, it first saw service in April of 1945, launched from PB4Y-2B bomber aircraft. Later other aircraft, such as the Corsair, were modified to carry it. 
The onboard radar system had been designed to act like an echo location that bats and dolphins use to find their prey. A pulse signal would be transmitted toward the intended target. When the return signal is received, it would adjust its flight path accordingly until impact.
Inside it's belly harbored the AN-M65 general purpose bomb. 1000lbs of nightmares, that are intended for anti-ship strikes!

 

 

[Gambit21]

3 hours ago, Bremspropeller said:

The Corsair will be @Gambit21 's chance at becoming BATMAN!

 

 

[danielprates]

21 hours ago, Gambit21 said:

I've decided to recruit some volunteers at the air show to help motivate me.

 

Imagine their faces when their heads get decapitated.

 

 

[Bremspropeller]

2 hours ago, danielprates said:

Imagine their faces when their heads get decapitated.

 

Well, instead of rolling eyes, there'll be rolling heads...

[Guest deleted@83466]

The thing that screwed me up initially with flying helicopters was being trimmed for cruise, but then anticipating the hover/landing trim when transitioning from a cruise to a "standard" helicopter approach which is like 10-12 degrees angle.  So when beginning an approach from cruise, the first thing I always do nowadays is pitch the nose up approximately 10-15 degrees, holding level flight with collective momentarily, and then immediately letting the nose fall back off as I dump more collective to begin the descent and approach.  The intent is to just get in the ballpark of being trimmed for a hover at 3 feet.  Then I need to provide forward pressure as appropriate to decelerate at the correct rate (target should appear in the windscreen as if you are doing a quick walk towards it).  I don't know how they work the trim in helicopter in real life, but in a sim with a spring-centered joystick, I've found this is what works for me.  I find it too damned hard to hover if I have to do it from a large stick displacement, and this is the best method I've found for getting into the ballpark around the center of the stick.  Only mild stick movements and trim adjustments required then to be able to hit the landing or hover target.  Otherwise, it's wild PIO over the helipad when I get to 3 feet/0 knots.

Edited July 19, 2021 by SeaSerpent

[Lusekofte]

This is Huey training I did 4 years ago. I think it is a quick mission free flight in Nevada. 

It really is all about patience and fine tuning

Not the most thrilling activity. But give a huge sense of accomplishment.

But I suspect ME occupy @Gambit21

Too much to focus on one module

Edited July 19, 2021 by LuseKofte

[Gambit21]

6 hours ago, LuseKofte said:

This is Huey training I did 4 years ago. I think it is a quick mission free flight in Nevada. 

It really is all about patience and fine tuning

Not the most thrilling activity. But give a huge sense of accomplishment.

But I suspect ME occupy @Gambit21

Too much to focus on one module

 

Thanks for posting this - important to see that it’s possible. ??

 

As for the other remark - without a doubt. I made an exception over the weekend, but it’s 97% editor, testing with the Viper. Also a bit of Viper learning here and there. I’ll make some time for the Huey here and there...too much fun to skip completely.

 

Edit: I may need to readjust my priorities a bit...I mean editor work/fun flying ratio.

Edited July 19, 2021 by Gambit21

[Bremspropeller]

It wasn't my prettiest landing that came out of this, but I managed to bring her back...

[Lusekofte]

1 hour ago, Bremspropeller said:

It wasn't my prettiest landing that came out of this, but I managed to bring her back...

That bring me to a question. Because I have seen A 10 return with quite a bit shot off. A female pilot managed to return after a failed shell exploded and canopy blew off.

She got a medal for that. But considering DM . Should it be able to land? 

I still got a open wound about not learning myself this plane. I got as far as startup and navigation. 

On 7/13/2021 at 8:32 PM, Gambit21 said:

after seeing the Tomcat,

All pits in all sims got ruined after sitting in the Tomcat. Hod I wonder about the Mosquito and Corsair

[Gambit21]

4 minutes ago, LuseKofte said:

That bring me to a question. Because I have seen A 10 return with quite a bit shot off. A female pilot managed to return after a failed shell exploded and canopy blew off.

She got a medal for that. But considering DM . Should it be able to land? 

I still got a open wound about not learning myself this plane. I got as far as startup and navigation. 

All pits in all sims got ruined after sitting in the Tomcat. Hod I wonder about the Mosquito and Corsair

 

The Mossie and Corsair will raise or at least uphold the F-14 standard I think.The Huey needs a re-work.

 

As an aside, although I’m the FURTHEST thing from a helo expert - I find myself a bit skeptical of the state of VRS modeling with the Huey. The severity of how quickly I can go from a mild descent to falling like a rock..:that said it could be spot-on for all I know.

 

I just feel like every pilot would have died within hours.

 

 

[Guest deleted@83466]

I think the UH-1 as modeled in DCS is very very tame when it comes to VRS.  The other helicopters are far more prone to it.  The Mi-8 is a VRS death trap by comparison.

[Lusekofte]

3 hours ago, Gambit21 said:

The severity of how quickly I can go from a mild descent to falling

You should try the mi8. That is a bus once pushing the limit

[Lusekofte]

I think the biggest problem when new is. Doing all the stuff and keep noticed the instruments. No matter what chopper you choose to fly except KA 50. You will be able to control any type once You handle one.

Reducing speed and keep the altitude on a mi8 is pretty dangerous if your not know what will happen. With no speed a decent with over 5 can quickly be a unrecoverable crash. And it apparently had quircs similar to this, if I understand its pilots interviews correctly. The Huey is pretty good simulated according to those flown it. I guess that means, for a 70$ module it is good. 

[Bremspropeller]

 

"My greatest strength? Well, I guess I like paving the way..."

 

 

Guidance of the GBU-24 seems a fair bit more advanced than the GBU-12's. It's closer to a JDAM.

Too bad we don't get the GBU-54 on the Hornet.

 

 

Ma mamma said life's a sandbox of chocolates...

 

 

Turns out, this ole bombing-island makes a nice place for pirates drilling the sheet out of it. They even got subs and everything!

 

 

 

@DD_fruitbat Now that Roberta died with her hair on fire on her first mission, I think you next name should be Jay Dam or Jay Sow.

 

I'm goint to keep the latino-lineage of my previous character strong and from now on I shall be known as Rico Chet.

[Gambit21]

I'm loving this editor...night and day difference in power.

 

I've got unrelated flights joining up with each other...AI Viper (players flight lead) intercepting and pulling alongside some MiG troublemakers and getting them out of the area - never been able to do that before. 

I love the additional logic that I have to work with - that and no crashes...I mean not a ONE. That alone is worth the price of admission.

 

I lasted a bit in the editor then back to the Huey...made some real progress in a very short time tonight...I mean 10 minutes. I switched my Collective axis to "Slider" and inverted it. So, now I'm pulling toward me to go up, and pushing away to go down...makes a big difference oddly.  I'm not sure which setting made the difference, and it's probably some improved muscle memory as well...but damn I took off and landed almost like I knew what I was doing. I didn't land exactly where I wanted to...but baby steps.

 

 

 

 

Edited July 21, 2021 by Gambit21

[AndyJWest]

6 minutes ago, Gambit21 said:

I didn't land exactly where I wanted to...

 

Any landing on the right side of the frontline is a good one... ?

[Gambit21]

 

 

I did this just after posting...and of course after my remarks I went back to sucking a bit...but much less suckery than yesterday.

I started the 'pendulum' thing and took me a while to stop it.

 

Note the Viper getting ready to fly his demo. lol

[DBFlyguy]

New open beta is out today and the Hornet now requires alignment for the HMD for cold starts

 

 

And the Viper got the AGM-154A

 

 

Tons of other good stuff spread across several other modules too!

Edited July 21, 2021 by DBFlyguy

[dburne]

Also new Hornet campaign by Badger633 is out - Rise of the Persian Lion. This continues Ford's exploits now in the Persian Gulf. Same author did Serpents Head and Serpents Head 2 campaigns. I have been so looking forward to this one.

 

 

[Blooddawn1942]

Are the clouds better in VR after the update or is this just an placebo effect? 

[Guest deleted@83466]

Here is exactly what I wanted to see for in the Hind: “Fixed: Trim thumb button procedure is not-correct. (Now. While the trim button is pressed it will disengage SAU/Autopilot stabilization).”  As of this post, haven’t gotten a chance to try it out, but my guess is that this will make it feel substantially much more like Mi-8.  I’ve been blowing the Hind off, waiting for this, so we’ll see.

 

Edit:  That fix isn't what I expected.  Still definitely not quick-click-to-trim for the present attitude like the Mi-8 and UH-1.   In fact, doesn't feel significantly different than what it was before the fix.

 

Edit #2 Just read that they forgot to put the fix into latest update, even though it was listed in the change log.

Edited July 23, 2021 by SeaSerpent

[DBFlyguy]

I'm not a huge Eurofighter fan... but this is still awesome news! ?

 

 

 

 

Edited July 22, 2021 by DBFlyguy

[AndyJWest]

Yay! Another chance to fly an aircraft I'll never get to learn properly. Nice looking though, and it's mere existence seems to annoy some people (mostly those working for General Dynamics), so I expect I'll end up buying it, just on principle. And then complaining about how game developers' efforts to make their cockpits look more and more like the real thing are being thwarted by aircraft developers' efforts to make their cockpits look more and more like video games.

 

Needs a north Wales map too, for authentic Mach-loop sheep-scaring...

[Irishratticus72]

2 minutes ago, AndyJWest said:

Yay! Another chance to fly an aircraft I'll never get to learn properly. Nice looking though, and it's mere existence seems to annoy some people (mostly those working for General Dynamics), so I expect I'll end up buying it, just on principle. And then complaining about how game developers' efforts to make their cockpits look more and more like the real thing are being thwarted by aircraft developers' efforts to make their cockpits look more and more like video games.

 

Needs a north Wales map too, for authentic Mach-loop sheep-scaring...

Don't need no Eurofighter to go scaring sheep, just squeaky wellies. 

[DD_fruitbat]

Heatblur teaming up with True Grit on the Tiffie is music to my ears!!!!

 

Will be instant purchase, and will be number one plane for sight seeing, because who doesn't like supercruise sightseeing!!!!

 

@Bremspropeller I blame poor Roberta's fiery demise on her Tomcat escort.....?? 

Edited July 22, 2021 by DD_fruitbat

[Lusekofte]

1 hour ago, AndyJWest said:

Yay! Another chance to fly an aircraft I'll never get to learn properly. Nice looking though, and it's mere existence seems to annoy some people (mostly those working for General Dynamics), so I expect I'll end up buying it, just on principle. And then complaining about how game developers' efforts to make their cockpits look more and more like the real thing are being thwarted by aircraft developers' efforts to make their cockpits look more and more like video games.

 

Needs a north Wales map too, for authentic Mach-loop sheep-scaring...

I was not going to buy it. But your point for doing so is valid. I might reconsider

5 minutes ago, DD_fruitbat said:

Heatblur teaming up with True Grit on the Tiffie is music to my ears!!!!

 

Will be instant purchase, and will be number one plane for sight seeing, because who doesn't like supercruise sightseeing!!!!

It will be a blast

[Gambit21]

Looks incredible.

I’ll never have time for it.

 

I want the F-4U and the Mud Hen.

...and a Cobra.

Taken with the Huey.

 

#FARPlocationScoutingIsFun.

[Hoss]

3 hours ago, Irishratticus72 said:

Don't need no Eurofighter to go scaring sheep, just squeaky wellies. 

Beware of the Mad Welshman with the ManPad..................... 

 

Hoss..........................

[Guest deleted@83466]

I know it's a curmudgeon's attitude, but planes like the Typhoon or the Rafale or even F-35 and F-22 just don't captivate me like the Hornets, Eagles, Tomcats, and older MiGs.

[Gambit21]

27 minutes ago, SeaSerpent said:

I know it's a curmudgeon's attitude, but planes like the Typhoon or the Rafale or even F-35 and F-22 just don't captivate me like the Hornets, Eagles, Tomcats, and older MiGs.

 

This

Pretty sure I’ll put some time into the MiG 19 and 17 eventually. Content will as ever be the challenge/limiting factor.

 

The more things turn into “airborne systems operator” and less ‘flying’, the less interested I am. I love the Viper because it’s the Viper, but that’s as far as I want to go. The Tomcat is fantastic, but Jester interaction and his efficacy puts me off a bit as far as content creation. 

 

Mud Hen should be good to go.

 

Looking forward to the A-6. 

[AndyJWest]

DCS taking the p*** ?

 

 

'INLET ICE' Probably realistic, at 18,000 ft just below the clouds, but not something I want to see while I'm sweltering in the heat, wondering if the neighbours would complain if I started sim-flying in the nude.  Since I couldn't remember where the anti-ice switch was, I ignored it. Which worked.

 

[Guest deleted@83466]

In terms of being captivated by the front-line planes of my youth, when I stow all that nostalgic BS and approach things with an open mind, it’s normally for the best.
I guess the most modern plane that we have is the JF-17.  I had never heard of it, but the group I was flying with last year got into it, so I did too, and it really impressed the hell out of me.  JF is just a great module, no questions about it, and a v

 

EDIT:  this is what happens when you type your thoughts out, not knowing if you are going to post, and then accidentally hit save, instead of cancel.  Cheers. ?

Edited July 23, 2021 by SeaSerpent