DCS

[Lusekofte]

56 minutes ago, CanadaOne said:

 

Is that not a prerequisite to being a flightsimhead? 

No, not at all. One have a idea what level the game is. Like GB , I was disagreeing in the path it took. But once I noticed they did not care about my opinion , I learned to enjoy the things I liked. 

Like DCS, you know it all is beta, getting pissed when you buy a new module and see it is beta. Tells a lot about a person. So to have a slight chance enjoying flight sims , one need to not be pedantic, you need to be opposite

[BOO]

33 minutes ago, 216th_LuseKofte said:

No, not at all. One have a idea what level the game is. Like GB , I was disagreeing in the path it took. But once I noticed they did not care about my opinion , I learned to enjoy the things I liked. 

Like DCS, you know it all is beta, getting pissed when you buy a new module and see it is beta. Tells a lot about a person. So to have a slight chance enjoying flight sims , one need to not be pedantic, you need to be opposite

 

I have a new strategy that allows me to enjoy pretty much all the modules without worrying too much about something that is missing that I never knew about anyhow.

 

I stopped reading the forums. 

 

Harrier + iron bombs = happy

KA50 + letting go of the stick when you set trim = happy

Avoiding a SAM without worrying too much about why its as dumb as a brick = happy

 

1 hour ago, Arthur-A said:

The new damage model, not quite impressive, tbh. CloD DM is miles away.

 

Also, after flying Spitfire for a while, I'm surprised how many Hispano shells 109s and 190s can withstand. Hopefully they'll tweak it soon.

Wow - the P47 can soak it up - I mean look how far its sunk into the tarmac with the weight of all that lead!

[dburne]

I have spent the last couple of days with the Hornet and the Super Carrier.

Doing cold start, taxi to catapult , takeoff. Navigate around a bit, then return and landing on the Super Carrier.

Great fun, getting some decent "good" scores from the LSO.

 

One would think after learning all the above I should be able to fly a combat mission or campaign. But nooo, not me.

Still have all that to learn ( weapons deployment) and for some reason I seem to struggle learning those.

Maybe someday.

 

Last landing I did after taxi to parking on the deck and shutting my engines off, I went to exterior view and there I was beside two of the crew members chatting. And in VR with everything life sized, that was pretty surreal. I then watched my wingman land on the carrier as well.

Edited December 24, 2020 by dburne

[Lusekofte]

41 minutes ago, dburne said:

I have spent the last couple of days with the Hornet and the Super Carrier.

Doing cold start, taxi to catapult , takeoff. Navigate around a bit, then return and landing on the Super Carrier.

Great fun, getting some decent "good" scores from the LSO.

 

One would think after learning all the above I should be able to fly a combat mission or campaign. But nooo, not me.

Still have all that to learn ( weapons deployment) and for some reason I seem to struggle learning those.

Maybe someday.

 

Last landing I did after taxi to parking on the deck and shutting my engines off, I went to exterior view and there I was beside two of the crew members chatting. And in VR with everything life sized, that was pretty surreal. I then watched my wingman land on the carrier as well.

What you do is quite enough for me. I enjoy the Tomcat this way. For improved action I do a touch and go, that usually make my LSO eject

1 hour ago, BOO said:

 

I stopped reading the forums. 

 

Harrier + iron bombs = happy

KA50 + letting go of the stick when you set trim = happy

Avoiding a SAM without worrying too much about why its as dumb as a brick = happy

Good strategy I await my new usb controller to my new stick before I fly DCS. 

Then I will do some Harrier hops.  I miss it. I got a excellent reserve but messing with the controls make me obnoxious if overdone

 

[SCG_OpticFlow]

Forgot to close the canopy on the P-47 before taking off. The sound of the engine was awesome, reminded me of my motorcycle with the throttle open...

[CanadaOne]

1 hour ago, dburne said:

I have spent the last couple of days with the Hornet and the Super Carrier.

Doing cold start, taxi to catapult , takeoff. Navigate around a bit, then return and landing on the Super Carrier.

Great fun, getting some decent "good" scores from the LSO.

 

One would think after learning all the above I should be able to fly a combat mission or campaign. But nooo, not me.

Still have all that to learn ( weapons deployment) and for some reason I seem to struggle learning those.

Maybe someday.

 

I hear ya. With the Hornet I've managed the GPS bombs, fired a few Mavericks, and even laid some kickazz on a ship with the AGM-62, but I have yet to get a handle on the laser guided bombs. And between the Hornet, the A-10C II, and my impending KA-50 purchase, I have a lot to figure out.

 

Not a bad thing though, I kind of enjoy exploring the details a little bit at a time, when the mood hits me. That's why I like the Nevada map so much. Groom Lake is where I test every system I'm trying to figure out. If I managed to do something successfully, odds are I did it there. 

[Lusekofte]

I find myself gravitate to the I16. I flew some short missions in GB with it and found the urge to fly it in DCS. I am not sure it get better FM or are better in DCS, I just feel more a live in the DCS version. It somehow give you a impression of being in a real one flying it in VR

[dburne]

Still doing some supercarrier and free flight ops in the Hornet today.

Nice and relaxing.

[DD_fruitbat]

1 hour ago, dburne said:

Still doing some supercarrier and free flight ops in the Hornet today.

Nice and relaxing.

 

Been doing some SEAD in the Viper, not quite as relaxing, but my favourite mission profile at the moment.....

 

Using both HARMS in HAS mode for closer in and RUK mode for stand off against longer range threats.

 

RUK mode,

 

 

2 attack runs and evasion in HAS mode,

 

 

I really love the Viper!!!

 

After that second vid, I still had plenty of fuel so I shot down a couple of Mig 23's just for good measure before landing, what a plane!!!

[dburne]

I so look forward to maybe some day being able to deploy weapons against an enemy target.

[Hoots]

My Christmas present of a tumble drier  32gb of 3600 RAM has made a huge difference to the vr experience, the channel map is now nice and smooth. Need to try fs2020 but want to move that to my other present of a 1tb ssd first. Good Christmas so far

[Lusekofte]

17 hours ago, DD_fruitbat said:

Been doing some SEAD in the Viper, not quite as relaxing, but my favourite mission profile at the moment.....

 

Using both HARMS in HAS mode for closer in and RUK mode for stand off against longer range threats.

 

This is why I never even tried to learn a compleat weaponsystem on A10 , F 16, F 14 

I have not the faintest idea what this means. 

I see this all the time in GB groups and before when I remembered my Nick name in ed forum

[CanadaOne]

5 hours ago, 216th_LuseKofte said:

This is why I never even tried to learn a compleat weaponsystem on A10 , F 16, F 14 

I have not the faintest idea what this means. 

I see this all the time in GB groups and before when I remembered my Nick name in ed forum

 

I've managed a few on the Harrier and the Hornet, but only a few. I could manage the laser guided bombs pretty well in the Harrier in a mission, no active pause, but they changed the way the targeting works and now it's more difficult. In general, me and Active Pause are good friends.

 

Just bought the Ka-50. Some modules just grab you and the feel of them comes kind of natural, and the Blackshark is one of them. I've flown it for a few hours and I'm already much, much better in it than in the Huey, which I've had for months. Did some flying on the Syria map and it was great, it's fantastic helicopter map. And there is something stupidly fun about hovering over a target and dropping 500kg bombs straight down.

[Lusekofte]

When my new stick get repaired I fly some sorties in Harrier I simply do not bother reassign to my reserve

[CanadaOne]

6 minutes ago, 216th_LuseKofte said:

When my new stick get repaired I fly some sorties in Harrier I simply do not bother reassign to my reserve

 

Did you say you had to send your stick to Poland to get fixed?

 

You have a complicated life. 

[Lusekofte]

No, he sent me a new usb control card dec.23 

[Gambit21]

On 12/24/2020 at 10:58 AM, DD_fruitbat said:

 

The H's are optical with a CCD seeker head, as opposed to say D's with an IR seeker head, and E's with a laser seeker head.

 

They are more flexible, because you can lock on to heat, but also in area mode to any point via the camera in the seeker head.

 

If we are being pedantic, then yes every mav is optical in some way, but its how I've heard them being referenced, Optical, IR and Laser.

 

 

 

Thanks

Last time I fired one was Falcon 4.0.

[busdriver]

On 12/25/2020 at 10:20 AM, DD_fruitbat said:

Been doing some SEAD in the Viper, not quite as relaxing, but my favourite mission profile at the moment.....

 

Using both HARMS in HAS mode for closer in and RUK mode for stand off against longer range threats.

 

RUK mode,

 

From the Jurassic POV...it's considered bad form to climb toward a threat at 250 KIAS.

 

Jurassic Technique: Single ship takeoffs with full AB (20 seconds spacing in case you have to abort) when hauling iron, come out of AB at 300 KIAS, accelerate to 350 KIAS and climb out at that speed until ~.80 to .84 mach. Set your power to ~90% rpm (or a bit more if you're really heavy) which gives your wingmen some power to play with.

 

Jurassic Technique: If you're using a stand off weapon that requires no input from you once it's released/fired then consider turning away to egress or put the threat off your wingtip so their return fire has to work harder (you've reduced your Vc -- velocity of closure) and to generate potential line of sight problems. Going for multiple targets? Consider S turning (think of it as a worm maneuver) as you fly toward your targets to stay out of the heart of their envelope whilst giving you more time to target and engage.

 

Jurassic Technique: When using chaff/flares employ them during your hard/break turn, not before you maneuver. If you're pumping out flares don't use AB.

 

Jurassic Consideration: Flying toward your target whilst supersonic does impart some kinetic energy for your weapon (a little bit of oomph) you are now forcing yourself to fly a HUGE turn circle if you try to maneuver. So consider "standing the throttle up" (physically straight up) or go Idle AND fan the speedbrakes to slowdown below the mach if you must maneuver defensively. Corner velocity is a range of speeds approximately 350-450 KIAS (whilst subsonic).

 

Jurassic Consideration: Have an airspeed in mind that if you get defensive, and you are below that speed Emergency Jettison your external stores. The pylons with missile rails are probably not "carted" (they don't have explosive cartridges to jettison the weapon). In your case only the wing tanks would probably jettison. I was an A model guy so I'm clueless about HARM carriage, but air to air missiles won't jettison. 350 KIAS was the number we used.

 

 

[Gambit21]

I'd better pick up that Viper too - dammit.

[CanadaOne]

8 hours ago, Gambit21 said:

I'd better pick up that Viper too - dammit.

 

[Lusekofte]

9 hours ago, Gambit21 said:

I'd better pick up that Viper too - dammit.

This is the way ?

Now your screwed 

Just like that, see you next December

Edited December 27, 2020 by 216th_LuseKofte

[CanadaOne]

37 minutes ago, 216th_LuseKofte said:

This is the way ?

Now your screwed 

Just like that, see you next December

 

Wait until he sees the Mosquito and the Hind. 

 

I tell ya, I'm in love with the Blackshark. I was never good with the Huey, but I'm doing circuits on the Supercarrier with the Ka-50, landing and takeoff, and nailing almost every one. (Almost.) Gotta try a rough sea landing on a cruiser. At Night. That's a challenge. I've even managed to do that thing where you hover behind a hill or a building, pop up just enough to see the target, and then sink back down. Haven't done it with weapons yet, just getting the maneuver down. Still fiddling with the laser guided missiles. I still seem to miss a step pretty often and then it buggers me up. 

 

In any case, the whole bloody province is locked down for the next two-weeks. Everything is closed except for groceries and there's little to no visiting going on. Sooooo... there's time to fly.

[dburne]

3 hours ago, CanadaOne said:

 

Wait until he sees the Mosquito and the Hind. 

 

I tell ya, I'm in love with the Blackshark. I was never good with the Huey, but I'm doing circuits on the Supercarrier with the Ka-50, landing and takeoff, and nailing almost every one. (Almost.) Gotta try a rough sea landing on a cruiser. At Night. That's a challenge. I've even managed to do that thing where you hover behind a hill or a building, pop up just enough to see the target, and then sink back down. Haven't done it with weapons yet, just getting the maneuver down. Still fiddling with the laser guided missiles. I still seem to miss a step pretty often and then it buggers me up. 

 

In any case, the whole bloody province is locked down for the next two-weeks. Everything is closed except for groceries and there's little to no visiting going on. Sooooo... there's time to fly.

 

Yeah I love the KA-50. Only bird I actually learned to fly some combat with.

Powerful weapons too.

Once you get that trimmer down pat, it is a beauty to fly.

[CanadaOne]

2 hours ago, dburne said:

 

Yeah I love the KA-50. Only bird I actually learned to fly some combat with.

Powerful weapons too.

Once you get that trimmer down pat, it is a beauty to fly.

 

You're right about that, it's all about the trimmer. I watched a couple of tutorials from different people explaining the trimmer and the always-on autopilot and had a helicoptorial epiphany; "Ahhh... that's how it works!" After that it was smooth flying.

 

And no kidding about the weapons, 12 anti-tank missiles and two 1000lb bombs. Not bad for a helicopter. 

[dburne]

9 minutes ago, CanadaOne said:

 

You're right about that, it's all about the trimmer. I watched a couple of tutorials from different people explaining the trimmer and the always-on autopilot and had a helicoptorial epiphany; "Ahhh... that's how it works!" After that it was smooth flying.

 

And no kidding about the weapons, 12 anti-tank missiles and two 1000lb bombs. Not bad for a helicopter. 

 

Have you passed targets to your wingmen via datalink and have them go after those yet? I think I am remembering that right. Maybe.

[Lusekofte]

16 minutes ago, dburne said:

 

Have you passed targets to your wingmen via datalink and have them go after those yet? I think I am remembering that right. Maybe.

You just mark and send. Long time since I did it. But pretty straight forward

[CanadaOne]

5 hours ago, dburne said:

 

Have you passed targets to your wingmen via datalink and have them go after those yet? I think I am remembering that right. Maybe.

 

Yes, right after I split the atom and made a perfect soufflé. 

 

Actually, no. That might take a little more time. My brain is rather small and I can only handle so many tasks before going fetal in a freak out. It does sound cool though, I'm going to watch some tutorials on that. It would be kind of fun to draw fire and watch the other guy pound on them when their backs are turned.

 

I'll try it tomorrow. 

[BOO]

11 hours ago, dburne said:

 

Have you passed targets to your wingmen via datalink and have them go after those yet? I think I am remembering that right. Maybe.

That bit works quite well. Getting said wingmen to the location in a fashion that is a) likely to keep them alive and b) looks relatively realistic is more difficult. The low level AI helo routines in DCS are pretty poor at present.

[Lusekofte]

3 hours ago, BOO said:

That bit works quite well. Getting said wingmen to the location in a fashion that is a) likely to keep them alive and b) looks relatively realistic is more difficult. The low level AI helo routines in DCS are pretty poor at present.

Yes, I stopped sending them ahead for recce. That is always a death sentence. And why they insist getting close while attacking is a misery 

[DD_fruitbat]

 This thread needs more TOMCATS!

 

Take off from the super carrier,

 

 

 

Dogfight against 4 Mig 21's and a cargo plane kill, plus some valley flying,

 

 

 

 

And the carrier landing,

 

 

 

 

Tomcats!

[AndyJWest]

Yeah, thought I'd try the Tomcat again myself, while it's free-to-play. A quick land-based hop yesterday was uneventful, so I set myself up to try carrier ops today. Which went well enough for the first few seconds of flight, until I forgot to retract the flaps. After a great deal of buffeting, and some puzzled fiddling about wondering why the wings wouldn't go back, I finally twigged. Too late, the flaps were well and truly jammed in the down position. Since I was well overweight, and not entirely sure I hadn't damaged anything else (it seemed to be rolling to one side slightly), it seemed prudent to find a nice long runway to land on instead. 

 

Tomorrow, I am going to read through Chuck's Guide again first, and then fly the damn thing. I really shouldn't be trying to do things from memory. ?

[BOO]

EA6B Prowler Mod is a welcome scenic addition. Roll on the A6!

[CanadaOne]

Nice eye candy! Is it flyable or static? 

 

I'm having a terrible time installing skins into (Steam) DCS. Haven't got a single skin to work even though I followed the tutorials. Think I failed with one or two mods as well. Better watch another tutorial.

[AndyJWest]

I can land a Tomcat too. ?

 

There are plenty of good videos available showing how to land the DCS F-14 properly. This one doesn't. Though it does show that as long as the rest of the aircraft is in the right place, moving in the right direction, when your hook hits the wire, everything that happens before doesn't really matter. 

 

Since I'd only landed this thing maybe two or three times before, and that was about six months ago, I knew it wasn't going to be elegant. So to avoid upsetting the LSO, I didn't tell him I was coming. Recommended, for minimum unnecessary distractions. I'll go around if and when I feel like it, thank you...

 

 

[BOO]

1 hour ago, CanadaOne said:

Nice eye candy! Is it flyable or static? 

 

I'm having a terrible time installing skins into (Steam) DCS. Haven't got a single skin to work even though I followed the tutorials. Think I failed with one or two mods as well. Better watch another tutorial.

Its AI and based on the S3. Apparently they are working on the FM. Not sure if that means client "flyable" in any meaningful sense though given its core ECM mission isnt modelled in DCS and its a 4 crew aircraft. Still...nice to have aboard

[DD_fruitbat]

2 hours ago, AndyJWest said:

I can land a Tomcat too. ?

 

There are plenty of good videos available showing how to land the DCS F-14 properly. This one doesn't. Though it does show that as long as the rest of the aircraft is in the right place, moving in the right direction, when your hook hits the wire, everything that happens before doesn't really matter. 

 

Since I'd only landed this thing maybe two or three times before, and that was about six months ago, I knew it wasn't going to be elegant. So to avoid upsetting the LSO, I didn't tell him I was coming. Recommended, for minimum unnecessary distractions. I'll go around if and when I feel like it, thank you...

 

 

 

My video definitely isn't one of the good videos, of how to land the F-14 properly either!!!

 

It just has a Tomcat in it, so its automatically cool 

Edited December 29, 2020 by DD_fruitbat

[AndyJWest]

LSO's view of the above landing. not quite lined up, and coming in a little steep. ?

 

From TacView, it looks like my vertical speed was over 1,400 ft/min. I'd probably have punched the landing gear right through the deck.

 

Edited December 29, 2020 by AndyJWest

[CanadaOne]

So there I am, having a lovely drive up the coast towards Lebanon, and I notice a sign for French tourism. Time travel even.

 

 

 

[Gambit21]

2 hours ago, AndyJWest said:

LSO's view of the above landing. not quite lined up, and coming in a little steep. ?

From TacView, it looks like my vertical speed was over 1,400 ft/min. I'd probably have punched the landing gear right through the deck.

 

 

Well I think your policy of keeping the LSO out of the loop is sensible in any case. So long as you make it, what’s happens beforehand is none of his business after all.

[Bremspropeller]

34 minutes ago, CanadaOne said:

So there I am, having a lovely drive up the coast towards Lebanon, and I notice a sign for French tourism. Time travel even.

 

 

 

 

Is that a pre-quel to Blade Runner 2049?