DCS

[ZachariasX]

[RedKestrel]

3 minutes ago, ZachariasX said:

The international space station is in for a surprise when they see the amraam coming their way

[Lusekofte]

2 minutes ago, ZachariasX said:

This is funny and in many ways true, flying the A 10 and use its arsenal and system over target is bloody aweful and complex. Good thing is once learned it you can operate F 16 and F 18 too. But in order to be over target mark the objectives for mates and yourself you need to multitask, have air superiosity and be very effective. But some systems are very easy and can be done in a fast in and out of there sort of way. Problem is I never survived in one , since I ignore missle warnings when busy

[dbzero]

DCS is like Hearts of Iron4 another monster game I have but really just takes up space on my SSD drive.

 

You need to be retired or unemployed to have the spare time to learn how to play DCS and continue to play or you’ll forget what you learned in the first place.

 

At least BOS is easier to get into and single player campaigns for all its faults in BOS is engaging. 
 

At least there is an easy mode to start up planes in DCS instead of having to learn all the start up procedures and sequence. It would be nice to have an easy mode to employ weapons so you can just go out and blow up things and enjoy the fireworks without having to learn all the procedures and sequences. I know it’s heresy to hard core DCS players but something like a cntrl-m function to lock on and shoot Mavericks at tanks would be nice. Maybe there is but I haven’t figured it out.

 

I recently notice the DCS now has subs in it...

 

 

[ZachariasX]

20 minutes ago, dbzero said:

It would be nice to have an easy mode to employ weapons so you can just go out and blow up things and enjoy the fireworks without having to learn all the procedures and sequences.

Some planes like the F-5E have that mode.

[kestrel79]

That guy makes insane trailers. Is it still Glowing Amram that does the DCS stuff? Any chance he could lend his talents to our favorite sim?

 

The one thing I don't like is they add in sound effects not from the game, that's misleading...although they do state that at the end.

[Lusekofte]

My new stick is almost ready. Got this pickture today. 
I might fly a little bit DCS when it arrive. 
 

[DBFlyguy]

48 minutes ago, kestrel79 said:

That guy makes insane trailers. Is it still Glowing Amram that does the DCS stuff? Any chance he could lend his talents to our favorite sim?

 

The one thing I don't like is they add in sound effects not from the game, that's misleading...although they do state that at the end.

 

Yeah, DCS trailers are top notch.  That is one thing you can't knock them for...they get the required request, folks spending money.  It would be nice if Jason would invest some time in finding someone with similar talents to do IL-2's trailers.

[dbzero]

3 minutes ago, DBFlyguy said:

 

Yeah, DCS trailers are top notch.  That is one thing you can't knock them for...they get the required request, folks spending money.  It would be nice if Jason would invest some time in finding someone with similar talents to do IL-2's trailers.

Not sure if we’re talking about same thing but the DCS movies on YouTube are a blast to watch. 
 

when I do go into DCS I usually end up in the mission editor and watch what I build. Ironically it seem that the DCS mission editor is pretty easy to use and build things while the mission editor in BOS is something you need to be retired or in-employed to have the time to learn...

[Lusekofte]

That video made me want to learn A 10 C over again. It will take time
 

[DD_fruitbat]

I picked up the new A10 for free (DSC miles and already had the old one)

 

Looking forward to using the new helmet mounted cuing system, going to be fun and very effective.

 

As to be over complicated, your mileage will vary. I am neither unemployed (the hours I've been working lately, occasionally seems desirable!)  or retired (a distant dream), but can fly the F16 and F18 and use all systems and deploy all weapons in both of them, can do air to air in the F14, have got as far as flying the harrier and the A10.

 

Seriously, once you understand how the various systems work, most of the knowledge is transferable in what you have to do, the only real issue to keep on  top of when swapping between planes, is key mappings.

Edited October 1, 2020 by DD_fruitbat

[dburne]

7 hours ago, dbzero said:

DCS is like Hearts of Iron4 another monster game I have but really just takes up space on my SSD drive.

 

You need to be retired or unemployed to have the spare time to learn how to play DCS and continue to play or you’ll forget what you learned in the first place.

 

At least BOS is easier to get into and single player campaigns for all its faults in BOS is engaging. 
 

At least there is an easy mode to start up planes in DCS instead of having to learn all the start up procedures and sequence. It would be nice to have an easy mode to employ weapons so you can just go out and blow up things and enjoy the fireworks without having to learn all the procedures and sequences. I know it’s heresy to hard core DCS players but something like a cntrl-m function to lock on and shoot Mavericks at tanks would be nice. Maybe there is but I haven’t figured it out.

 

I recently notice the DCS now has subs in it...

 

 

 

Yeah I have been retired for over 4 years now and still struggle with getting up to speed with this sim.

[Guest deleted@83466]

I'll doubt I'll ever learn the A-10C.  What is it, like 5 or 6 different functions for each switch on the Warthog joystick depending on your sensor mode?  So I was well on my way to learning it all once, but then flew something else for 3 weeks, and I was all thumbs again when I came back to the A-10.   Most of the HOTAS-oriented planes there, if I haven't flown them for a while take a couple of minutes to relearn the muscle memory at most, but for the A-10, it seemed like a whole other level of commitment.

 

Maybe someday.  (and lol, I'm really going to hate myself when I end up buying it, aren't I?)

[dbzero]

DCS takes a huge commitment. 30 years ago when Falcon 3.0 came out I spent hours reading the manual then hours in flight. In the 90s I did the same with games like Janes F-15E Strike Eagle and AH-64Longbow.

 

These days there seems to be a lot more out there besides flight sims that can compete for attention. 
 

I’ll be retiring soon so maybe then I can have more time-that is if something else get I. The way.

 

Last week I decided to start a new game in Stellaris. 12 hours later I noticed it was well past midnight...

[dburne]

8 hours ago, dbzero said:

DCS takes a huge commitment. 30 years ago when Falcon 3.0 came out I spent hours reading the manual then hours in flight. In the 90s I did the same with games like Janes F-15E Strike Eagle and AH-64Longbow.

 

These days there seems to be a lot more out there besides flight sims that can compete for attention. 
 

I’ll be retiring soon so maybe then I can have more time-that is if something else get I. The way.

 

Last week I decided to start a new game in Stellaris. 12 hours later I noticed it was well past midnight...

 

Trust me , as I found out after retiring there still never is enough time to learn it seems.

[DD_fruitbat]

This thing really is death from above...

 

The new laser guided rockets are awesome, lol, as is the helmet cuing system.

 

 

 

And a close up gratuitous shot of the gun....

 

 

Going to be spending some time in this for sure now.

Edited October 1, 2020 by DD_fruitbat

[Reggie_Mental]

Rule 5 applied. 

 

Criticism of DCS is not allowed.

Edited October 1, 2020 by Reggie_Mental

[unlikely_spider]

If they make a campaign for other maps than the Caucasus map, I may have to jump in the hog again. There are great campaigns for that map, but I'm pretty over it by now.

[Lusekofte]

3 hours ago, Reggie_Mental said:

Rule 5 applied. 

 

Criticism of DCS is not allowed.

What?

Where? ED firums. Are you mad? Do not do it if you like to stay there. 
Here? I feel it is pretty obvious most of us have a very divided view, there is a lot of good reasons for getting frustrated. 
But there is also ways of putting it

[Ace_Pilto]

DCS simulates doing things in the cokpit, Il-2 simulates doing things with the aircraft.

Edited October 1, 2020 by Ace_Pilto

[messsucher]

4 hours ago, Reggie_Mental said:

Rule 5 applied. 

 

Criticism of DCS is not allowed.

 

How you can criticize something which appear to be awesome simulation?

[dbzero]

26 minutes ago, Ace_Pilto said:

DCS simulates doing things in the cokpit, Il-2 simulates doing things with the aircraft.

Interesting and true statement. Modern days combat aircraft is all about manipulating systems and could be argued pilots don’t fly the aircraft anymore. The computers and flight systems do.

 

The F-22 and F-35 isn’t officially modeled. With their more modern system displays and easier to use avionics and systems I wonder if that would translate into easier time to get up and running in DCS.

 

The jets now modeled were designed back in a time when computing systems were much older. The F-15, 18, A-10 are like using MSDOS with maybe Windows 3.0 bolted on.

 

The F-22 and F-35 -modern Windows 10/Apple OS level?

 

There were a few later generation combat flight sims that modeled modern display systems in the 90s and you could see the stark difference between that and previous generation fighters.

[unlikely_spider]

1 hour ago, Ace_Pilto said:

DCS simulates doing things in the cokpit, Il-2 simulates doing things with the aircraft.

Hmm... Try flying the Harrier or the Mi-8 well, or performing carrier ops w/the F-18 or F-14, or air-to-air refueling in, well, anything.

 

With DCS, you are doing things in the cockpit and the aircraft, as opposed to GB where you are only doing one of those

Edited October 1, 2020 by unlikely_spider

[Ace_Pilto]

Well, try doing it in old Il-2 or Arma and it's hard there too. With that said, they are adding a lot more to it but it remains a sitch flicking sim for me.

Edited October 1, 2020 by Ace_Pilto

[CanadaOne]

41 minutes ago, unlikely_spider said:

Hmm... Try flying the Harrier or the Mi-8 well, or performing carrier ops w/the F-18 or F-14, or air-to-air refueling in, well, anything.

 

With DCS, you are doing things in the cockpit and the aircraft, as opposed to GB where you are only doing one of those

 

Yep, and DCS really has the nicest P-47 ever.

 

[dbzero]

4 minutes ago, CanadaOne said:

 

Yep, and DCS really has the nicest P-47 ever.

 

I have the P-47 in both DCS and BOS. I prefer the one in IL2 myself. Also have the Spitfire and Mustang. No German planes yet. Maybe when a sale is on.

 

For some reason your images of DCS look much better than what I getting in DCS and I have everything cranked up to max. 

[unlikely_spider]

8 minutes ago, CanadaOne said:

 

Yep, and DCS really has the nicest P-47 ever.

 

I don't have that yet. Reflected is apparently working on a campaign for it though. When that happens I will buy.

 

His campaign for the Anton that just came out convinced me to buy the Channel map.

[CanadaOne]

1 minute ago, dbzero said:

I have the P-47 in both DCS and BOS. I prefer the one in IL2 myself. Also have the Spitfire and Mustang. No German planes yet. Maybe when a sale is on.

 

For some reason your images of DCS look much better than what I getting in DCS and I have everything cranked up to max. 

 

That's a DCS pic from their site.

 

But I can get DCS looking pretty sharp on my rig, and the Channel is out standing and very clear.

[unlikely_spider]

2 minutes ago, CanadaOne said:

 

That's a DCS pic from their site.

 

But I can get DCS looking pretty sharp on my rig, and the Channel is out standing and very clear.

That map is good looking, and any newer plane in DCS is just exquisite. Some of the older ones are showing their age though.

[CanadaOne]

13 minutes ago, unlikely_spider said:

That map is good looking, and any newer plane in DCS is just exquisite. Some of the older ones are showing their age though.

 

Some good updates, though. The P-51 got an interior paint job a while back looks really nice and flies super well. Definitely my favorite P-51. And some of the new WWII assets, tanks and stuff that come with the updates (assuming you bought the WWII Assets pack) are nicely detailed. 

 

And the DCS maps are great. The Channel map is The Best looking WWII map. Takes a bit of horsepower to run it, but it's worth it. France looks good, but England looks great!

 

 

 

[dbzero]

3 minutes ago, CanadaOne said:

 

Some good updates, though. The P-51 got an interior paint job a while back looks really nice and flies super well. Definitely my favorite P-51. And some of the new WWII assets, tanks and stuff that come with the updates (assuming you bought the WWII Assets pack) are nicely detailed. 

 

And the DCS maps are great. The Channel map is The Best looking WWII map. Takes a bit of horsepower to run it, but it's worth it. France looks good, but England looks great!

 

 

 

Channel map is the only 1 I don’t have. I’ve got ww2 assets pack.

 

I just wished ED would just complete what it already has. They are also apparently working on a dynamic campaign engine. Is that going to be a free update or more pay ware stuff?

 

Sometime I think DCS suffers from multiple personality syndrome. 
 

Come 2050 DCS will still be a work in progress!!!!

[DD_fruitbat]

40 minutes ago, dbzero said:

I have the P-47 in both DCS and BOS. I prefer the one in IL2 myself. Also have the Spitfire and Mustang. No German planes yet. Maybe when a sale is on.

 

For some reason your images of DCS look much better than what I getting in DCS and I have everything cranked up to max. 

 

That shows that opinions truly are like assholes, lol  

 

I've never liked the p47 period, sims, airshows etc, until i got the DCS 47 ?

 

its gorgeous...

 

 

[dbzero]

21 minutes ago, DD_fruitbat said:

 

That shows that opinions truly are like assholes, lol  

 

I've never liked the p47 period, sims, airshows etc, until i got the DCS 47 ?

 

its gorgeous...

 

 

Just like DCS itself opinions vary like assholes ?

 

Don’t know what it is but my DCS looks sorta washed out. Not like the pretty pics...

 

I will say one thing cool about DCS is hopping in a SAM or ZSU 23 or Tunguska and hosing aircraft out of the sky.

 

The modeling of the tanks isn’t up to par like Steel Beasts though.

 

Also as mentioned the user created movies using DCS are really fun to watch. Years ago-8+ someone made a rather lengthy movie that I’m pretty sure was made using Combined Arms that depicted an invasion of Taiwan by China.

 

It was really well done. 

 

Ive been looking for it for some time but can’t find it anymore.

 

Edited October 1, 2020 by dbzero

[DD_fruitbat]

12 minutes ago, dbzero said:

Just like DCS itself opinions vary like assholes ?

 

Don’t know what it is but my DCS looks sorta washed out. Not like the pretty pics...

 

I will say one thing cool about DCS is hopping in a SAM or ZSU 23 or Tunguska and hosing aircraft out of the sky.

 

The modeling of the tanks isn’t up to par like Steel Beasts though.

 

 

That's a straight up screenshot from my computer, I do have a fairly strong system though and play in 4k, not quite but close ish to maxed out.

 

Don't know what setting would cause a washed out look though?

 

Re Tunguska's, they are the most satisfying ground asset to kill, bloody hate them ??

 

 

 

The ironic thing for me though, is that its il2 that I suffer micro stutters in. Its not game breaking, and I am pretty sure its because I use a msffb2 stick. Always have a wry smile when I read posts about talking the other way around ? 

Edited October 1, 2020 by DD_fruitbat

[CanadaOne]

14 minutes ago, dbzero said:

Channel map is the only 1 I don’t have. I’ve got ww2 assets pack.

 

I just wished ED would just complete what it already has. They are also apparently working on a dynamic campaign engine. Is that going to be a free update or more pay ware stuff?

 

Sometime I think DCS suffers from multiple personality syndrome. 
 

Come 2050 DCS will still be a work in progress!!!!

 

It's definitely not perfect. But it's a helluva sandbox to play in. And I think its multiple personalities is a good part of its appeal; you can fly the way you want to fly, all kinds of action to suit the mood. WWII, choppers, GPS guided bombs from 40,000', control over massive MLRS strikes. It's great. And with its excellent mission editor you can set up any flight you want super fast and easy. That's what I love about it - DCS lets me fly exactly what I want to fly and fly it exactly the way I want to.

 

It's my sandbox. 

 

And you can do this, which is damn good fun.  

 

[dbzero]

13 minutes ago, DD_fruitbat said:

 

Re Tunguska's, they are the most satisfying ground asset to kill, bloody hate them ??

Tunguska’s are brutal. I play Combat Mission h2h and when playing the Black Sea modules the Russian player will almost always pick up a few of them when playing pick your forces.

 

Not only do they provide defense against aircraft and drones, but they are devastating against infantry and anything less than a MBT and even against MBTs will degrade systems or immobilize them.

 

The best and most fun thing though is what they do to buildings. They just demolish them and anything inside of it.

 

I’ve never tried using one in DCS against buildings. I’ll have to try sometime and see.

23 minutes ago, CanadaOne said:

 

It's definitely not perfect. But it's a helluva sandbox to play in. And I think its multiple personalities is a good part of its appeal; you can fly the way you want to fly, all kinds of action to suit the mood. WWII, choppers, GPS guided bombs from 40,000', control over massive MLRS strikes. It's great. And with its excellent mission editor you can set up any flight you want super fast and easy. That's what I love about it - DCS lets me fly exactly what I want to fly and fly it exactly the way I want to.

 

It's my sandbox. 

 

And you can do this, which is damn good fun.  

 

Yeah I’m just not up to speed yet to really see what it can do. I’m too preoccupied with other stuff to spend the MBA level of study and effort at this time.

 

They need to dumb it down to elementary level so some of us can just jump in and blow stuff up. 

[CanadaOne]

6 minutes ago, dbzero said:

 

 

 

Yeah I’m just not up to speed yet to really see what it can do. I’m too preoccupied with other stuff to spend the MBA level of study and effort at this time.

 

They need to dumb it down to elementary level so some of us can just jump in and blow stuff up. 

 

That's what I like about the DCS mission editor, you can make the flight as simple or as complicated as you want. And if you get the A-10A, which is about $15 and super easy to manage and a ton of fun, you can set up some serious "Kaboom!" in one-minute flat. Even learning to lock on and fire the AGM-65s on the A-10A is a five-minute affair, nothing at all like the A-10C.

 

If I want something more complicated, but still not mind bending, I fly the Harrier. 

 

I think it was you who mentioned less than stellar graphics in your DCS. After watching this video and doing a lot of what was suggested, I noticed a definite crispness to the image that I did not have before.

 

 

[dbzero]

4 minutes ago, CanadaOne said:

 

That's what I like about the DCS mission editor, you can make the flight as simple or as complicated as you want. And if you get the A-10A, which is about $15 and super easy to manage and a ton of fun, you can set up some serious "Kaboom!" in one-minute flat. Even learning to lock on and fire the AGM-65s on the A-10A is a five-minute affair, nothing at all like the A-10C.

 

If I want something more complicated, but still not mind bending, I fly the Harrier. 

 

I think it was you who mentioned less than stellar graphics in your DCS. After watching this video and doing a lot of what was suggested, I noticed a definite crispness to the image that I did not have before.

 

 

Thanks I’ll take a look and see if my RTX 2080 needs tweaking.

 

I have the A-10A as well as the Harrier, Tomcat and a bunch of other planes I get when they run sales.

 

In fact I owned the predecessor LOMAC and the original A-10 that was released before it morphed into DCS...

 

I was just so engaged in Rome and Medieval Total War at the time and taking over the entire world at the time I just never got into the flight sim stuff. After years of playing flight sims in the 80’s and 90’s I was on a break.

 

when DCS runs sales I buy with the intention of I’ll get around to it someday, but something else always grabs my attention.

[CanadaOne]

13 minutes ago, dbzero said:

Thanks I’ll take a look and see if my RTX 2080 needs tweaking.

 

I have the A-10A as well as the Harrier, Tomcat and a bunch of other planes I get when they run sales.

 

In fact I owned the predecessor LOMAC and the original A-10 that was released before it morphed into DCS...

 

I was just so engaged in Rome and Medieval Total War at the time and taking over the entire world at the time I just never got into the flight sim stuff. After years of playing flight sims in the 80’s and 90’s I was on a break.

 

when DCS runs sales I buy with the intention of I’ll get around to it someday, but something else always grabs my attention.

 

You have a 2080? Nice! My 2060 Super makes DCS look good so you should be doing really well. I'm waiting for the Puccara to come out on DCS, I have almost everything else I want.

 

I was big into Medieval Total War years ago. Had a lot of fun over at Totalwar.org.

[dbzero]

3 minutes ago, CanadaOne said:

 

You have a 2080? Nice! My 2060 Super makes DCS look good so you should be doing really well. I'm waiting for the Puccara to come out on DCS, I have almost everything else I want.

 

I was big into Medieval Total War years ago. Had a lot of fun over at Totalwar.org.

RTX2080. It’s been a good card. Interesting enough when I would run Rome Total War 2 with everything cranked up to max I would occasionally get some out or memory error and warning it would downgrade the graphics. I thought going from a GTX970 to a RTX2080 with more VRAM would solve the problem but would still get the error. What solved it was going from 16 megs of ram to 32.

 

Total War is fun. Have all of them and taking a break from a DEI campaign. Taken over Spain and most of Africa as Rome. Just need to take over rest of map.

 

waiting for Medieval 3. There is a good Medieval mod for Atiilla, but still not complete.

 

I’ve yet to try DCS online...maybe one day you can take your Harrier and I’ll be Mr. Tunguska.

 

1v1 guns only...