SimShaker - Wings support thread for IL-2 users

[SCG_motoadve]

4 hours ago, Youtch said:

Is there any difference in feeling between firing machines guns or firing cannon?

Yes there is an options section you can click under Guns effects and the second gun can be made to have a lot more powerful effect.

[Youtch]

4 hours ago, SCG_motoadve said:

Yes there is an options section you can click under Guns effects and the second gun can be made to have a lot more powerful effect.

Thanks Andre for your answer. 

 

If you would be kind to answer the other points?

[Andre]

19 hours ago, Youtch said:

 

Wasn't me actually, but here it goes.

 

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I have a couple of questions ...

Hmm... a couple.... a figure of speech I guess.

 

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Does engine boost work in IL2?

No, it doesn't. I'm sorry.

 

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Does chaff/flare apply to IL2?

No, it doesn't. That's for the Falcon BMS title. When you start the IL-2 it will become grayed out.

 

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What is APU/JFS, does it apply to IL2?

No, it doesn't. That's for the Falcon BMS.

 

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Does the engine trigger a stronger shaking at start-up? Visually the plane is shaking stronger just after kicking off propeller faster rotations.

Yes, it takes into account engine vibration level exposed by the game.

 

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Is there any difference in feeling between firing machines guns or firing cannon?

Same for damage, being damaged by small caliber does it feels different than being damaged by 30mm?

 

Yes, the projectile mass  and the shoot velocity are taken into consideration as well as the damage force.

 

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Does the payload release feels different depending on the size of the payload and between fighter and bombers?

No, I don't think so. One just can feel the side where it was released.

[Dukethejuke]

I klnow they are out there somewhere, What are the best IL2 settings for BK2?

[Youtch]

I am proceeding with the installation of Wings for IL2.

 

Is there any potential conflict for telemetrydevice between SRS and Wings?

 

[KEY = telemetrydevice]
    addr = "127.0.0.1"
    decimation = 2
    enable = true
    port = 29373
[END]

[KEY = telemetrydevice]
    addr = "127.0.0.1"
    decimation = 2
    enable = true
    port = 4322
[END]

[Youtch]

 

 

Does it mean that I am forced to choose between SRS or Simshaker Wings or there is a way to use both at the same time?

 

SRS is quite vital in MP for Combatbox server, which is the server I use the most.

[Andre]

37 minutes ago, Youtch said:

I am proceeding with the installation of Wings for IL2.

 

Is there any potential conflict for telemetrydevice between SRS and Wings?

 

[KEY = telemetrydevice]
    addr = "127.0.0.1"
    decimation = 2
    enable = true
    port = 29373
[END]

[KEY = telemetrydevice]
    addr = "127.0.0.1"
    decimation = 2
    enable = true
    port = 4322
[END]

I guess it will not work out like this. There must be only 1 telemetrydevice section.

Does SRS really need the telemetrydevice portion? I thought it was a motion platform.

Edited November 30, 2022 by Andre

[Andre]

19 minutes ago, Youtch said:

 

 

Does it mean that I am forced to choose between SRS or Simshaker Wings or there is a way to use both at the same time?

 

SRS is quite vital in MP for Combatbox server, which is the server I use the most.

I believe you can use both.

[Charlo-VRde]

I would think so, too - I don’t use SRS but I do use a motion chair, a Next Level Racing Motion Platform V3, which reads telemetry data as I also use SimShaker Wings with both a JetPad and a Buttkicker.

[Youtch]

4 hours ago, Andre said:

Does SRS really need the telemetrydevice portion? I thought it was a motion platform.

yes, it uses telemetry, but I found the post from Jason to avoid conflict:

 

Maybe it would be good to reference it as well in your installation guide.

[Charlo-VRde]

Ah right, SRS is an acronym for two separate and unrelated pieces of 3rd-party software - Sim Racing Studios’ motion platform software and Ciribob’s SimpleRadio Standalone software that is an alternative to Discord or Teamspeak.

Edited November 30, 2022 by Charlo-VR

[Youtch]

I am talking about the alternative to discord/teamspeak

[SCG_Tzigy]

4 hours ago, Andre said:

I believe you can use both.

 You can definitely use both I have been and it works great

[Youtch]

I just tried the demo version and I quite like the effects, it adds a lot to the immersion.

 

Everything seems to work fine out of the box, with direct USB connection recognized by the software Wings for Buttkicker Gamer PLUS (which is very good since there is no  need for a dedicated external sound card or to connect the through audio). 

 

I have been experimenting a little, and all the effects seem to be applied well, except maybe for payload release.

 

When selecting the option of unlimited ammo, the first couple of bombs released or couple of rockets launched are felt well (I love the effect by the way, very sastifying), but then there is no more effect for the new bombs or rockets, till the mission is restarted again and all is working fine, till it stops working again.

 

Is this due to telemetry not being sent properly when selecting unlimited bombs/rockets?

 

Thanks in advance

[Andre]

13 minutes ago, Youtch said:

I just tried the demo version and I quite like the effects, it adds a lot to the immersion.

 

Everything seems to work fine out of the box, with direct USB connection recognized by the software Wings for Buttkicker Gamer PLUS (which is very good since there is no  need for a dedicated external sound card or to connect the through audio). 

 

I have been experimenting a little, and all the effects seem to be applied well, except maybe for payload release.

 

When selecting the option of unlimited ammo, the first couple of bombs released or couple of rockets launched are felt well (I love the effect by the way, very sastifying), but then there is no more effect for the new bombs or rockets, till the mission is restarted again and all is working fine, till it stops working again.

 

Is this due to telemetry not being sent properly when selecting unlimited bombs/rockets?

 

Thanks in advance

Thank you for the feedback. I haven't tested it with the unlimited ammo enabled. Wasn't aware of this feature in the IL-2 to be honest.

There is a chance that the telemetry works different in this case.

What if you disable the unlimited ammo?

[Youtch]

2 minutes ago, Andre said:

What if you disable the unlimited ammo?

I am playing mostly fighters and there are not that many bombs to release, so it seems to be ok. Maybe it would be worth to test with a fighters carrying a lot of rockets.

[Super_Tonton]

Hi!

 

My SimShaker Wings crashes at startup. The launcher works, but with either manual or automatic startup, the program window appears and dissapears after a second without any error message.

 

Any ideas?

 

Thanks!

 

[Andre]

39 minutes ago, Super_Tonton said:

Hi!

 

My SimShaker Wings crashes at startup. The launcher works, but with either manual or automatic startup, the program window appears and dissapears after a second without any error message.

 

Any ideas?

 

Thanks!

 

Hi,

something has got wrong. You can download SimShaker Diagnostic Tool here https://1drv.ms/u/s!AtZazqt_Ko-7gaky9cVrNB7Ls3blLw?e=ueE6d3
It will search for SimShaker related errors in the Windows Event Log. Please PM or email me its output.

[kestrel79]

Haven't played IL-2 in a while. My Buttkicker is hooked up like it was before, when SimShaker launches and I hit the test button, I can feel the vibration...however when IL-2 starts and I'm in game I don't get anything. What could possibly be wrong?

 

Did one of the recent updates mess with the code you have to paste into the config file? Do I need to download to the latest version of SimShaker?

 

Is the Jetseat still available for purchase anywhere? I might be looking to get one or another brand...

[Andre]

22 minutes ago, kestrel79 said:

Do I need to download to the latest version of SimShaker?

 

Yes, you do. Actual version is 2.14

 

[=81FG=Moo_VR]

The shim shaker will stop vibrating after 5 minutes of running BOS.
 if you check in startup

 [KEY=Telemetry Device]
address="127.0.0.1"
Decimation = 2
enable = true
port=29373
[End]

 This part has been deleted.
 Even if you insert it again, the vibration stops after 5 minutes,
 If checked, it is deleted again.
 Do I need to reinstall BOS or simshaker?

 

Here is the Windows event log:
> Windows Installer has reconfigured the product. Product Name:
> SimShaker - Wings. Product version: 2.14. Product language: 1033.
> Manufacturer: Andre. Reconfigure success or error status: 1602.

Edited February 13, 2023 by =81FG=Moo_VR

[Andre]

7 minutes ago, =81FG=Moo_VR said:

The shim shaker will stop vibrating after 5 minutes of running BOS.
 if you check in start

 [KEY=Telemetry Device]
address="127.0.0.1"
Decimation = 2
enable = true
port=29373
[End]

 This part has been deleted.
 Even if you insert it again, the vibration stops after 5 minutes,
 If checked, it is deleted again.
 Do I need to reinstall BOS or simshaker?

 

Here is the Windows event log:
> Windows Installer has reconfigured the product. Product Name:
> SimShaker - Wings. Product version: 2.14. Product language: 1033.
> Manufacturer: Andre. Reconfigure success or error status: 1602.

What do you mean under "check in start"?
startup.cfg file?
If so, SimShaker doesn't touch this file. 

Therefore, if you are eager to reinstall something, SimShaker reinstall will change nothing.

Edited February 13, 2023 by Andre

[[CPT]Nem0]

I realize this a support thread but wanted to say I just got Jetpan Flightsim and the SimShaker-Wings set up and running....wow what a difference!

 

It took 2 weeks from order date to receive the  Jetpad.  

 

All transactions were simple and smooth.

 

It is an excellent addition to my heap of hardware.

[=81FG=Moo_VR]

On 2/14/2023 at 5:56 AM, Andre said:

startup.cfg file?
If so, SimShaker doesn't touch this file. 

Therefore, if you are eager to reinstall something, SimShaker reinstall will change nothing.

Thanks for your reply.
It was resolved after reinstalling BOS.

Edited February 18, 2023 by =81FG=Moo_VR

[JG7_X-Man]

@Andre After the 5.103 update, the launcher works but the GUI looks like this: 

a blank white screen then is closes and reopens again.... over and over again. The GUI doesn't start.

[NiiranenVR]

5 hours ago, JG7_X-Man said:

GUI doesn't start

Hello 

When I had the problem , someome told men this ( and he got it from Andre ) 

 

I think deleting the corrupted CommonData.cfg file could be enough in this case. 

I'd recommend you to make a backup copy of this file. There is the Backup License button on the 3^rd settings tab for that.

 

CommonData.cfg is in C:/Users... if I remember correctly. Make a backup as suggested by Andre, each time you delete CommonData, it cost you an installation (I think you have 10 installations with a license).

[Andre]

8 hours ago, JG7_X-Man said:

@Andre After the 5.103 update, the launcher works but the GUI looks like this: 

a blank white screen then is closes and reopens again.... over and over again. The GUI doesn't start.

Please try version 2.16. You can get it by this link https://simshaker.com/downloads/beta_SimShaker-Wings_Setup_v.2.16.msi
And yes, making backups is highly recommended.

[JG7_X-Man]

@Andre

 Bingo! Thank you - that did the trick!

 

@NiiranenVR

Thank you too!

[Schoff]

Has anyone had success getting SimShaker Wings working with NLR HF8 Pad? 

 

I had the HF8 Pad recognized and "testing" fine before I purchased the software. When I activated the HF8 selection is gone and I can no longer get the pad working.

 

Any help would be appreciated! I have ForceFeel software working/firing the 8x haptics in the HF8 pad. 

 

EDIT

ForceFeel is a paid addon as noted by the SimShaker Wings purchase webpage. Andre has been very responsive in getting this resolved. If you are a HF8 user make sure you purchase the $15 addon for ForceFeel (Realteus) support.

 

Edited June 5, 2023 by Schoff

[Charlo-VRde]

@Schoff my SimShaker Wings version 2.14 works very well with the Next Level Racing HF8 pad. When I bought the HF8 back in March I communicated with Andre via Discord about adding the "Realteus ForceFeel" option to my SimShaker license, and it has worked perfectly ever since.

 

(I also run a Buttkicker, too, but that's just to get more power to the engine beats.)

 

It looks like in his 2.16 version Andre has changed the name of the ForceFeel option from "Realteus ForceFeel" to "ForceFeel or NLR HF8". Andre is very responsive and I'll bet he could guide you to get it to work for you.

 

 

[Schoff]

@Charlo-VR

Hi Charlo!

 

Thanks for the reply. You are exactly right. Andre pointed out that the ForceFeel support is a paid addon which is properly disclosed in the "purchase" section of the SimShaker Wings page. I just missed it, of course.

 

I  will coordinate with Andre on getting access...I also purchased 6x Transducer addon which I realize I don't need so hopefully the $15 can be applied toward access to Realteus ForceFeel support...this software recognizes HF8 which is nice.

 

I should be squared away soon! Looking forward to it.

 

Thanks again!

 

[Skipper-]

@Andre E-Mail sent regarding payment for a license. Thanks

Edited June 23, 2023 by Skipper-

[Swiftoholic]

Hello,
 

I have an Ushake6 and first tried the SRS software. 
Then I stumbled upon your Simshaker Wings software, which I found to be so much better than the SRS.
But no matter what I couldn't manage to use all 6 shakers successfully even though I installed the ASIO driver and activated it in your software.
The vibrations only came from the FL and FR speakers. The other four remained silent. 
In the Windows settings, the audio device is also declared as a 5.1 audio interface and the ASIO driver also shows me all the channels.
Is it the DEMO mode or do you have another idea? 
With SRS os Simhub for racing games all 6 rumblers work as intended..

Thanks for your help and 
BR
Sascha

[Andre]

5 hours ago, Swiftoholic said:

Hello,
 

I have an Ushake6 and first tried the SRS software. 
Then I stumbled upon your Simshaker Wings software, which I found to be so much better than the SRS.
But no matter what I couldn't manage to use all 6 shakers successfully even though I installed the ASIO driver and activated it in your software.
The vibrations only came from the FL and FR speakers. The other four remained silent. 
In the Windows settings, the audio device is also declared as a 5.1 audio interface and the ASIO driver also shows me all the channels.
Is it the DEMO mode or do you have another idea? 
With SRS os Simhub for racing games all 6 rumblers work as intended..

Thanks for your help and 
BR
Sascha

Hello Sascha,

That's a bit different.

I implemented support for Ushake6 in SimShaker Sound Module but in SimShaker Wings it's not quite finished at the moment.

I need to modify some samples to engage all the shakers in Ushake6.

Though you can engage 4 of them with the latest SimShaker Wings version you can get by this link 

https://simshaker.com/downloads/beta_SimShaker-Wings_Setup_v.2.17.msi

Disable ASIO in SimShaker Wings settings and use 5.1 pattern in the Ushake6 sound card configuration.

[Swiftoholic]

On 6/25/2023 at 6:46 PM, Andre said:

Hello Sascha,

That's a bit different.

I implemented support for Ushake6 in SimShaker Sound Module but in SimShaker Wings it's not quite finished at the moment.

I need to modify some samples to engage all the shakers in Ushake6.

Though you can engage 4 of them with the latest SimShaker Wings version you can get by this link 

https://simshaker.com/downloads/beta_SimShaker-Wings_Setup_v.2.17.msi

Disable ASIO in SimShaker Wings settings and use 5.1 pattern in the Ushake6 sound card configuration.

Hi Andre,

thanks for your fast reply!
So would I need both licenses to have full support of my UShake6:

• SimShaker Wings software license (base level)
• SimShaker Wings option: up to 6 Channels Bass-Shakers Support

 

and may I have a demo version extension? ?

 

br

Sascha

Edited June 26, 2023 by Swiftoholic

[Andre]

23 hours ago, Swiftoholic said:

Hi Andre,

thanks for your fast reply!
So would I need both licenses to have full support of my UShake6:

• SimShaker Wings software license (base level)
• SimShaker Wings option: up to 6 Channels Bass-Shakers Support

 

and may I have a demo version extension? ?

 

br

Sascha

Yes, that's correct.

To reset demo time please try to re-install the application.

[401Whi5tler]

Hi Andre -- Is it possible to use my Wings or Aviators software to fly IL2 Cliffs Of Dover / Tobruk?

[Andre]

4 hours ago, 401Whi5tler said:

Hi Andre -- Is it possible to use my Wings or Aviators software to fly IL2 Cliffs Of Dover / Tobruk?

Hi,

Unfortunately not. Those guys haven't added what SimShaker needs thus far.

[paul_leonard]

True.  But depending on your shaker device you can potentially use audio signal to reach shaker.  Not SimShaker… but shaker.

[Taurus]

G'day,

 

My apologies if this has been answered before. (Lots of posts to read through.) SimShaker is amazing. It really adds another dimension to my motion simulator that was difficult to implement.

I can fly around and enjoy the immersion of the tactile feedback from SimShaker along with the physical motion of the rig while recording the flight. However on replay of the recorded flight the motion is replayed but not the SimShaker output. I am hazarding a guess that the replay API is not honouring the [Telemetry Device] output but I wanted to check that I was not missing a setting before bringing it up with 1CGS.

 

Thanks,

 

Edited August 21, 2023 by Taurus