Microsoft Flight Sim 2020

[Lusekofte]

I got the super deluxe version. Buy basic. And find out what you wanna fly by research and buy that. Because you won’t fly  more than 10% of your original content. For GA Cessna you will own is a good one. And your special interest have to be bought anyway

[ZachariasX]

I also have the "everything included" edition and I hardly use any of those. I would also stay away from warbirds that you are familar with in other sims like this or that one. If I would get a warbird then it would be something like the civilian P-51 as A2A Simulations have one. Extremely useful going places with that one while still posing enough of a challenge to make the flight entertaining. MSFS truly excels at the flight experience as such as @DD_Arthur says. The included GA Cessnas or even the Robin are great for that, they also have come a long way from just being bog standard rides for a vanilla sim.

 

There are some great payware aircraft and schenery addons that really make a difference if have some more specific needs. Lukes current ride is a great example of such. Currently there are few study level aircraft, but those really make the difference. I'd spend my money there.

[Lusekofte]

1 hour ago, BOO said:

Thanks chaps. Having a pretty rough time in RL so a little distraction and fewer explosions may be exactly what I need in between hospital vigils. 

Oh I hope you come well out of it. My brother had a critically case in and out of hospital a few years back. His wife left him and all was shait 

when he recovered he got together with a beautiful woman, bought a house with her and as happy he never been. The guy is just turned nice. 
what I am trying to say , there is light in the end of the tunnel. Have faith 

After the special operation in east I had a hard time dealing with planes and weapons. This sim saved me

[BOO]

Thank you all. Downloading the standard edition. 
 
Screen narrator pitch goes from Nick Grey to Frank Williams awesum!  I’m sold 

[BOO]

21 minutes ago, Lusekofte said:

Oh I hope you come well out of it. My brother had a critically case in and out of hospital a few years back. His wife left him and all was shait 

when he recovered he got together with a beautiful woman, bought a house with her and as happy he never been. The guy is just turned nice. 
what I am trying to say , there is light in the end of the tunnel. Have faith 

After the special operation in east I had a hard time dealing with planes and weapons. This sim saved me

Thanks Luse. It’s my missus. 

[BOO]

I see not putting an estimated download time is very much a design choice! 
 

looking forward to plugging in later 

 

thanks again to everyone for the help and advice. 

[Lusekofte]

24 minutes ago, BOO said:

Thanks Luse. It’s my missus. 

In my mind that is Even Worse. Have faith

12 minutes ago, BOO said:

I see not putting an estimated download time is very much a design choice! 
 

looking forward to plugging in later 

 

thanks again to everyone for the help and advice. 

Have patience when assigning controls 

It is not that bad but it is tidious

[Trooper117]

Bought the standard edition when it was released... haven't bought a single other plane since, as it would just open up another rabbit hole I just can't afford.

I knew I'd never fly most of the aircraft that came with it anyhow.

[Lusekofte]

52 minutes ago, Trooper117 said:

Bought the standard edition when it was released... haven't bought a single other plane since, as it would just open up another rabbit hole I just can't afford.

I knew I'd never fly most of the aircraft that came with it anyhow.

Yes it do not pay to be impulsive I bought a lot of extra and after a while I started to fly Cessna that came with the game. It got it all good view adequate systems to learn and train and is the most likely plane you fly in rl. 
Think what you want long time before buying and google it. There is a lot of reviews out there

[Monostripezebra]

the Caribou is really good fun!

 

 

[BOO]

3 hours ago, Lusekofte said:

 

Have patience when assigning controls 

It is not that bad but it is tidious

That’s an aspect of simming I really enjoy. I’m thinking Cessna and the perhaps a glider just for the mountain environments might be where I end up living. 
 

oh and one of those souped up things with the big tires………and a float plane…..and a Chopper …..and….

Edited March 25, 2023 by BOO

[DD_Arthur]

35 minutes ago, BOO said:

…..and….

A couple of pointers for when you’re setting up the graphics options;

My game seems to work best in full screen with DX12 running. Obviously, your mileage may vary. I always have the clouds on ‘Ultra’ for best wow factor too.

However, the biggest impact on fps are the two LoD settings; terrain and objects.

 

[Hoss]

What basic, level of the game do I need for the Reno Air Race package. It's the one reason I'd install it on my computer.

[LukeFF]

5 hours ago, ZachariasX said:

There are some great payware aircraft and schenery addons that really make a difference if have some more specific needs. Lukes current ride is a great example of such. Currently there are few study level aircraft, but those really make the difference. I'd spend my money there.

 

Yes, and there are also a few freeware aircraft that are very good and well worth your consideration. One of them is the Cessna 152 mod by JP Logistics/Wept Burrito. It basically takes the stock 152 and turns it into a study-level plane with a lot more cockpit options. There's been a big drama/dispute lately over the way Flightsim.to runs its website, so the creator of the mod has moved his content to Discord. But, still very much worth your time for a good GA aircraft. 

 

Also, for bush flying, the DHC-2 comes free to everyone and is made by the same people who built the 310, so it's very high quality. @BOO

 

13 minutes ago, Hoss said:

What basic, level of the game do I need for the Reno Air Race package. It's the one reason I'd install it on my computer.

 

The cheapest, most basic edition is all you need. 

[DD_Arthur]

54 minutes ago, Hoss said:

What basic, level of the game do I need for the Reno Air Race package. It's the one reason I'd install it on my computer.

It’s an extra within the game market place.

Don’t expect much from the Reno expansion. It’s a bit of a let down imo and might not have very many players using it now.

If you go for Reno, just get the minimum, not the whole thing with all the planes as it’s simply not worth it. 
The planes themselves are beautiful but….empty.

 

Edited March 25, 2023 by DD_Arthur

[BOO]

Thanks Arthur ( run out of likes). 
 

the main issue now appears to be my X570 tomahawk mobo and it’s crappy bios firmware which basically crashes every 20 minutes. Baby sitting downloads is no fun. Flashing bios is something I’m too tired to do and from what I read doesn’t really help. Lord alone knows what state it’ll be in when it’s all done.

 

edit. I gave up and flashed the bios

 

 

Edited March 25, 2023 by BOO

[Mtnbiker1998]

3 hours ago, BOO said:

That’s an aspect of simming I really enjoy. I’m thinking Cessna and the perhaps a glider just for the mountain environments might be where I end up living. 
 

oh and one of those souped up things with the big tires………and a float plane…..and a Chopper …..and….

https://www.got-friends.com/ has some excellent freeware that should be right up your alley. I've had a ton of fun with all their stuff.

[BOO]

Cheers my mate. 

[LukeFF]

King Khaled Intl (OERK) to Sharjah Intl (OMSJ), United Arab Emirates (real-time weather and time of day):

 

To avoid the madness that is the airport at Dubai International, we elected to fly to a smaller airport just to the east, at Sharjah. To our surprise, the weather was ugly and overcast, with rain in the forecast:

 

 

So, we climbed out on IFR to 13000 feet, still in the midst of the rainclouds but thankfully no turbulence. After a while, the clouds cleared and we descended to 7500 feet on VFR:

 

 

There were some more storm clouds as we flew over Bahrain, but they were just out of our flight path. Doha passed by to the south:

 

 

It was when we then arrived over the Persian Gulf that the turbulence hit us like a sledgehammer - up and down, up and down, up and down. It got so bad that I finally had to disconnect the autopilot and hand-fly the plane until the air currents mercifully subsided. If there's one thing the 310 doesn't like, it's turbulence.

 

Finally, though, we made it into OMSJ, with Dubai and its fancy islands and towering skyscrapers in the distance. I screwed up something with the ILS signal, so I had to hand-fly the plane down to the runway, but it wasn't a big deal. 

 

Next stop: the long journey across the Gulf to Pakistan.

[BOO]

21 hours ago, Lusekofte said:

Have patience when assigning controls 

It is not that bad but it is tidious

OMG it’s clunky! Makes DCS look streamlined.  And no Virpil profiles but I guess it’s a civvy sim ( warthog is there though) 
 

I think it’ll take me a few days to get familiar with the game basics and set up before any flying. There’s a couple of community mods I want to find out more about to. 
 

On I think @DD_Arthurs recommendation I’ve installed the 152 mod and will look at the 310. Lots of time to research given the number of world updates yet to install 

 

Has made me fix the crashing caused by the motherboard though to the benefit of everything. 
 

my internet down load is generally around the mid 50s mb/sec. Hoping that’s enough for the pg stuff. 

[ZachariasX]

5 minutes ago, BOO said:

my internet down load is generally around the mid 50s mb/sec. Hoping that’s enough for the pg stuff. 

That should do it.

 

There's a lot you can do in MSFS and I would start out with the simple things. Getting used to some of the stock planes and their settings. That will show you what exactly you need beyond that. Then you can add other stuff one after the other and see how it works out for you. MSFS can be very complex and fiddling with too many settings at a time might cause problems that are hard to narrow in. The less you do to the sim, the more likely it will behave and work for you.

 

EDIT out of reactions, but again, nice flight @LukeFF

Edited March 26, 2023 by ZachariasX

[BOO]

Just now, ZachariasX said:

That should do it.

 

There's a lot you can do in MSFS and I would start out with the simple things. Getting used to some of the stock planes and their settings. That will show you what exactly you need beyond that. Then you can add other stuff one after the other and see how it works out for you. MSFS can be very complex and fiddling with too many settings at a time might cause problems that are hard to narrow in. The less you do to the sim, the more likely it will behave and work for you.

Thank you 

[Lusekofte]

1 hour ago, BOO said:

I’ve installed the 152 mod and will look at the 310

Everyone say that is the go to plane. And I believe them. 
But this is like DCS , everyone say strike eagle and hornet is the best choice. 
For me I am not sure. Too pretty and too sleek. I am suspicious about that

[BOO]

1 hour ago, Lusekofte said:

Everyone say that is the go to plane. And I believe them. 
But this is like DCS , everyone say strike eagle and hornet is the best choice. 
For me I am not sure. Too pretty and too sleek. I am suspicious about that

For now I won’t be going near anything and take the advice of Zac to take baby steps. It doesn’t feel instinctive to me at present ( it will) and is a bit overwhelming for my distracted state at present. UI feels like clod on steroids. 
 

I’ll slowly build up my controls profile over the next few days based on the training flights and the plethora of videos out there. 
 

….. and dream of a full fidelity Hip in the meantime

[Dakpilot]

4 hours ago, LukeFF said:

 

Next stop: the long journey across the Gulf to Pakistan.

 

Next trip you can do a tour of Africa ,

 

Cheers Dakpilot ?

 

 

 

[Hoots]

3 minutes ago, Dakpilot said:

 

Next trip you can do a tour of Africa ,

 

Cheers Dakpilot ?

 

 

 

 

I did this a little while ago, a trip round the coast of Africa with some excursions inland, amazing variety of scenery.

[Hoots]

British Summer Time starts today, no one mentioned it to the weather however.

 

[ZachariasX]

1 hour ago, Dakpilot said:

Next trip you can do a tour of Africa ,

 

Cheers Dakpilot ?

That my MSFS works again, I will!

 

[LukeFF]

1 hour ago, Dakpilot said:

 

Next trip you can do a tour of Africa ,

 

Cheers Dakpilot ?

 

Yes, this won't be the only time I do a big international tour. Next time I definitely want to fly more of Africa and then hit Central and South America.

 

4 hours ago, Lusekofte said:

Everyone say that is the go to plane. And I believe them. 
But this is like DCS , everyone say strike eagle and hornet is the best choice. 
For me I am not sure. Too pretty and too sleek. I am suspicious about that

 

Well, as Zach said above, there aren't many GA planes in the game with this level of detail. It does pay a price in being sleek and lightweight with being a b-tch in turbulence, but it does a lot of other things really well.

[Lusekofte]

3 hours ago, Dakpilot said:

 

Next trip you can do a tour of Africa ,

 

Cheers Dakpilot ?

 

 

 

Done a little of that in DC 3 Kind of nice, depends on when I fly

Well it seems like my stamina against buying has just been torn away

[LukeFF]

I've been reading good things about that An-2 model. 

[CUJO_1970]

The model is awesome, the FM needs some work … it will get there eventually. 

[Lusekofte]

It is Much better than I hoped for very nice cockpit good fm but I am not sure how accurate 

All in all very good impression of it

[BOO]

Had a play with wb C152 and got so sold on the wb C172 enhancement I suckered myself into purchasing the deluxe upgrade already.  
 

this is like crack

 

i need a wb cub. Neeeeeed!

 

 

[Lusekofte]

56 minutes ago, BOO said:

Had a play with wb C152 and got so sold on the wb C172 enhancement I suckered myself into purchasing the deluxe upgrade already.  
 

this is like crack

 

i need a wb cub. Neeeeeed!

 

 

Yes welcome to the madness. 

[Guest deleted@83466]

Just typical Flight Sim insanity, totally normal.  Happens in IL-2, DCS, MSFS, and certainly back in FSX. You’re like “ummm, what if I just bought this thing too, because I’ll learn this someday, won’t I?”…

[CUJO_1970]

It's the best sim in the world, already. It's only going to get better.

 

Here's some interior pics (insane detail) of the Antonov AN-2:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest deleted@83466]

Looks pretty complicated.

[AndyJWest]

The AN-2 has counter-rotating cockpit fans!

 

 

[CUJO_1970]

2 hours ago, SeaSerpent said:

Looks pretty complicated.