JG27 is recruiting

[JG27*Kornezov]

JG27 is recruting 2 pilots being able to fly on Thursdayday (or other day on the week that may change) 20:00 CET to 22:30 CET. We fly on servers with external views and icons. The tactical training is best done with external views and icons. Regarding competitive flying we are present on Finish and Combat box server in 2023 where we  have pilots who score in the top ten fighter pilots.

If you are a new pilot or a pilot with some experience but struggling to reach the next level you are a good candidate.

With the introduction of the new planes La 5 FN and P 39 the multiplayer arena has become more competitive than ever. The team tactics are the answer. If you want to learn how to fly as a  part of a team  with pilots which are knowing what they are doing you are welcome. So if you want to learn team tactics JG 27 is a squadron for you.

 

Some information.
If you have kill/death ratio close to 1 you can expect quick results from our individual training. If your kill/death ratio is below 1 you would need more time.

We are flying primarily the Luftwaffe's two great fighters of the second world war the Messerschmidt Bf-109 and Focke-Wulf Fw-190.

 

About JG27, our virtual squadron is one of the oldest still active squadrons. What we propose is mentor/trainee relationship in order to achieve the best results as fast as possible.

To apply you can write here or send me a PM on the forum.

College degree for joining is highly appreciated.

Edited July 28, 2023 by JG27*Kornezov

[JG27*Kornezov]

Remember that practice doesn't make perfect. Perfect practice makes perfect.  You could be doing flight sim for a decade, but if no one tells you that you're doing it wrong, you inevitably create a sense of self-validation because you're able to shoot down enemy planes - albeit in a crude way.

[LR.flyingfisch]

I'm from the US, are there openings in that sector or only EU?

 

Thanks

[JG27*Kornezov]

Yes there are, but the US guys are not regularly active. Now we switch our default session in Wednesday due to personal reasons. You can came and check the blue team in the Wings of liberty TS.  There are the guys from 77 too. Actually on Wings of liberty we cooperate a lot. You play with everybody and you find out with which guys you can fly together close or just cooperate depending on the situation, or even sometimes just shut down TS to cut off the noise LOL. It is not easy but it is rewarding. 

Bear in mind that if you do not know exactly what you are doing, a pilot is a liability on the team. Top performance is achieved only when you are in a team were everybody knows what is doing and you know each other well.

So training is basically accepting this liability and to take care of the pilot, sacrificing individual performance. So it is also taxing for the "instructor" LOL.
Check for example this team action I was flying with La Crepe from 77.
 

 

Edited March 30, 2018 by JG27_Kornezov

[Ruben_Szabo]

I am interested and I can fly in the given time period. I have no idea how to take a look at my K/D ratio but I estimate it to around 1.25-1.50, judging from a normal match.

[JG27_Z505]

I am very interested as well and can also fly during the given time period. However I only recently bought IL2 BoM BoK and therefore played only a fewmultiplayer sorties so far. I am not new to flight sims though, I have stacked up houndreds of hours in good old IL2 1946 and some hours in Warthunder.

As you guys seem to place a lot of focus on training and teamplay, I think you are want I am looking for.

 

Main languages: English

                              German

 

 

Edited June 6, 2018 by Z505

[JG27*Kornezov]

For some reason it is now I see all the messages. You can join for our next session Thursday at 18:15 CET at our

TS server:
jg27.typefrag.com:4040

We can meet before that for a training session you need to PM me.

 

[BRONCO_66]

your surf guitar rolls baby!

 

[JG27*Kornezov]

Hi hevishot

[9./JG27MAD-MM]

To Bad I am already JG27 :D

Great Guy Kornezov don't be shy you can learn something

*Bump*

[JonRedcorn]

Is there a reason you guys prefer the official euro server? I can't say flying with tags on is too much fun.

[JG27*Kornezov]

What our team is about is using modern era fighting doctrine in WW2 planes. So being in a team we can engage and  and try to survive in tactical  situations in which the common pilot is doomed. 

 

On 7/11/2018 at 2:04 AM, JonRedcorn said:

Is there a reason you guys prefer the official euro server? I can't say flying with tags on is too much fun.

The reason:

1. Right now we fly as a team once per week, very limited time,  so time sinks like flying and looking for targets are not a good option.
2. That kind of server is perfect for training of new recruits. That is the place to learn the team tactics. When you have the basics you can level up the challenge.

3. We do not want to bounce unsuspicious targets, they have all the instruments to know we are there. We want to train the recruits to fight in difficult tactical situations.
4. Last but not least, there are very good pilots there, maybe some of the best in the game who fly in the opposite team.

Actually

9./JG27 David Red is very very influential for me. I spent a lot of time trying to figure out his high angle of attack techniques of rudder, aileron and elevator coordination. I used a lot tacview to check if I can match the same performance characteristics looking at the alpha, and G load charts. At the end I realized that some people when you look at the telemetry data have peculiar characteristics. I can identify some people just by looking at the data, not even the track.

Another influential pilot for me is AK77. From him I learned some particular defensive techniques, he uses very fast alternations between positive and negative G loads combined with outside snap - rolls. So he is generating high speed over-shoot, in that way when you over shoot he has a very slight energy disadvantage and can counter-attack immediately.

 

And of course JG27_Papafly, he is the official JG27 team tactics guru master.

Edited July 12, 2018 by JG27_Kornezov

[DD_Kev83]

i am looking to join a squadron i am not new to flight sims and have played dcs a lot but i am just getting bored since it just dosnt have the units or the maps to make ww2 interesting i am a vr pilot  i am 35 and from the uk and i am looking to play regularly i dont know what my skill level is but i know how to fly the bf 109 k4 in dcs and have 9/2 kills on players and 140/42 ai kills not amazing but the ai in dcs is a lot better then in il2 anyway please pm me or reply so i know if i can wing up and see what happens after that 

[JG27*Kornezov]

Thank you for the interest. JG27 stops current recruiting. I will post if there will be future recruitment cycle. It is vacation time.

We value quality over quantity. So we cannot accept people beyond our training capabilities. You can PM if you are very desperate :).

Edited August 19, 2018 by JG27_Kornezov

[JG27*Kornezov]

JG27 is opening again its recruitment cycle.

For the past 6 months we were able to train 3 new pilots in the modes of operation of JG27: pilots with call signs Z, G and Dan.   

 

The European branch of JG27 is recruiting 2 pilots being able to fly on Thursday 18:00 CET to 22:00 CET. For personal reasons as <Real life comes first> we can't fly more than 1 day as a squadron, normally we flew 2 days per week. For that reason participating in servers as WoL is out of the question as we want the biggest amount of action in the shortest time. We chose the EU official as it is offering tactical scenarios, has icons (perfect for training ). Also the Red pilots there are second to none regarding the mastery of their planes.

 

Our focus is on training and fast action. We do not participate as a squad on Wings of liberty or other full real servers. For that reason  membership in JG27 does not exclude membership in other squadrons regarding their operations on other servers. Quite the opposite we encourage the share of information.We have only one day per week for flying for that reason the slots are open even for pilots that are part of other squadrons.

Edited December 7, 2018 by JG27_Kornezov

[JG27*PapaFly]

On 12/7/2018 at 12:27 PM, JG27_Kornezov said:

The European branch of JG27 is recruiting 2 pilots being able to fly on Thursday 18:00 CET to 22:00 CET.

Spoiler

 

JG27_Kornezov and I total more than 40 years of flight simming. We fly as a team for around 10 years now.

Many players believe that all it takes to have an efficient team is to be on the same server and to chat throughTeamSpeak. That is not the case.

 

Becoming an efficient team player is what transforms you into a complete pilot. You'll be able to achieve much more than you could ever dream of while alone.

Here are some aspects that we cover during our journey:

-communication skills

-plane control and aerobatics

-air combat maneuvering in all imaginable scenarios, like 1vs1, 1vs2, 1vs many, 2vs1, 2vs2, 2vs many

-offensive and defensive team tactics

-manipulating the opponents into playing your game, and losing

-single and two element tactics

-air-to-air, air-to-ground, and combined ops

 

What it takes is to be open-minded, curious, and willing to learn. Korny and I see this as a life-long journey. You are never "there", but are always presented the opportunity to learn new things and deepen your expertise.

 

Besides, this is a great way to stay proficient even though you might spend very limited time online. Right now, Korny and I fly once per week due to real-life obligations. Nevertheless, we are very competitive and never have to back off from a fight.

 

Here's a vid showing you a tactical mission debrief done by Korny:

 

[Herculean01]

Hello,  (*cluck of heels) Sirs, I am looking for a team to fly with.  I'm very willing to learn.

I will be a good wingman.  I ask for a chance,  and I have all the high-quality equipment needed to run this sim

Casca

Edited December 11, 2018 by Casca

[JG27*PapaFly]

15 hours ago, Casca said:

Hello,  (*cluck of heels) Sirs, I am looking for a team to fly with.  I'm very willing to learn.

I will be a good wingman.  I ask for a chance,  and I have all the high-quality equipment needed to run this sim

Casca

Hi there, check your PM ?

[JG7_RudeRaptor]

Papa I'd like to Re-Join with JG27 again if possible. What is your schedule ?? 

[JG27*Kornezov]

Hi, Raptor we fly starting from 16:00 CET (Central European time) on Thursday. However we have a Whatsup chat so we can reschedule in real time. We can try to do something as you are from USA, as I could fly another session in the week and to try to meet some US friends again.

Edited December 18, 2018 by JG27_Kornezov

[JG7_RudeRaptor]

Darn I currently work on Thursdays now. That may change next year though. Keep me updated on what sessions you guys fly. I might be able to hook-up with you all. 

Is the JG27 web site up??

[JG27*Kornezov]

JG27 is actually the Sim version of the Hell's kitchen.

 

[JG27*Kornezov]

 

Just when I saw the fuel at the beginning of the track, close to 0 :). Those guys were flying in a team doing good defensive jinks. Just after I shot the second Spit I ran out of fuel and had to glide to the airfield which was just below. We were basically intercepted during our RTB.

From tactical point of view there are a lot of elements and just by watching if you understand the fight and what is going that means you are trained tactician. If you do not you may wonder how 2 spits catching LW planes get destroyed by surprise 4 minutes after. And I will make a separate video for that. The tacview track is even more interesting for this fight, I think to make a separate video with voice over analysis.

 

JG27PapaFly

We had to be patient in that one, since we had no energy advantage at the initial merge. We slowly built up a situation in which Korny in the K4 gained an energy advantage. Then we waited for one of the Spits to make a mistake. The track stands to show that when one fighter of a two-ship formation drops out of a 2vs2 out 2vs many fight, it's usually game over for both.

[JG27*Kornezov]

 

[JG27*Kornezov]

For the moment the flying hours are updated: Wednesday 18:00 CET to 22:00 CET. We fly on the EU official server. You can find us on the general TS.
We fly on the EU official server, due to time limitations we cannot affort to fly on full real server for the moment. We prioritize having fun over winning a mission or an online campaign or war.
The other reason is that training pilots on full real server is a waste of time. Full real servers are not for newbies, unless they want to be the cannon fodder.
We do not seek for an exclusive squadron membership, as we fly only once a week. However only blue flying commitment  for trainee pilots in full real servers and online campaigns is a must e.g.  Wings; Knights etc. No such things as balancing is a valid excluse, only blue. The reason is that training is a serious commitment of efforts and time from us and we cannot afford those to go against our friends in other blue squadrons and their efforts to win a capaign. That is your game, but that is a game in which you have to choose your team too. Choose carefully and wisely S!

 

 

 

Edited June 6, 2019 by JG27_Kornezov

[JG27Duke_von_Hurtzu]

JG27_Duke von Hurtzu reporting for duty!!! I finally got online! I saw you (Papafly and dear ole AD!!!) Papa ruled but I came in a far second!!! Long live JG27! Let me know if I am back in and what are is our comms link! dBaron is my brother and was flying with me today. He got me back into the game....that is worth a commission in JG27 I am sure!!! Miss the old WarClouds days!

[JG27*Kornezov]

Hi welcome back. I apologize for answering so late. We fly every Wednesday starting from 18:30 CET on the EU official server.

Edited May 18, 2020 by JG27_Kornezov

[JG27_M-C]

On 4/23/2020 at 4:44 AM, JG27Duke_von_Hurtzu said:

JG27_Duke von Hurtzu reporting for duty!!! I finally got online! I saw you (Papafly and dear ole AD!!!) Papa ruled but I came in a far second!!! Long live JG27! Let me know if I am back in and what are is our comms link! dBaron is my brother and was flying with me today. He got me back into the game....that is worth a commission in JG27 I am sure!!! Miss the old WarClouds days!

 

Hi duke! JG27_MC here! (from de WarClouds era) Are the old guys around? I just picked up IL-2 Sturmovik: Great Battles and I was wondering if any of the old JG27 folks are up in the air...

 

PS: I also miss the great WarClouds combat flying sessions... It's been what? More than 10 years ago? Yikes!

Edited June 3, 2020 by M-C

[JG27*PapaFly]

Hi folks,

on this weeks squad evening, we did combined fighter & jabo ops on OMD / CryHavoc server. He had a blast checking out the new and challenging missions. Most of the time, we had two planes taking care of the ground targets, while two flew cover. Here are a few impressions of the action.

Two of our heavily loaded Bf110s are en route to target.

 

Meanwhile, the fighter cover flew ahead to sweep the ingress route and target area.

This P-39 was taken by surprise by a boom and zoom FW190 attack.

 

JG27_AD gets really close to place a killshot on this Spitfire MkV.

 

A Spit driver leaves his stricken plane. After that, the Bf110s have a few precious minutes of clear sky.

 

Teamwork doesn't stop here though. While the Bf110s work the targets, they are constantly tracked and advised by the high fighter escort, which also serves to split the AAA fire. The 110s closely coordinate their attack, going first for the AAA batteries. Instead of going head-on and dying in the process, the first one to be tracked by the fast-firing medium caliber AAA aborts his attack and describes a wide circle around the AAA batteries. While these track him, his buddy has a safe approach and kills two batteries in one pass. It's important to line them up before commencing the attack, so that they can both be attacked in one approach with minimum need of flight path corrections. Two coordinated 110s can anihilate large numbers of AAA batteries in no time. If the AAA switches to the actual attacker, the 110s swich roles. Since the baiting 110 orbits the targets at a distance of 1000 - 2000 m, all it takes is a 90 degree turn into the battery which now tracks his buddy.

Here's a AAA which tracked the baiting 110 right until the attacking 110 killed it with an accurate bomb run.

 

Breaking line of sight with enemy AAA whenever possible is really important when doing ground work over heavily defended areas. This often means maneuvering below treetop level. JG27_Kornezov got so low that one of his props hit the ground. Flying on one engine on a hot summer day, he was able to nurse his bird back to friendly territory.

[JG27*PapaFly]

Last week, we kept a solid focus on ground work based on a two-ship formation. Again, the OMD / CryHavoc server is ideal for this, providing a wide range of ground targets to go for.

When it comes to cracking tanks, most Luftwaffe jocks immediately think of the Henschel, JU-87G, or BF-110. These are great platforms for that job, the Henschel being my absolute fav. However, when the air space above the tanks is contested or if I need to be faster after my drop for other reasons, I much prefer my main love, the Fw-190. The A version can load up to 8 50 kg bombs which equals a maximum of 6 destroyed tanks. If you haven't tried that loadout against tanks, I highly recommend it. I drop the bombs in singles (the 4 hanging from centerline rack), or in pairs (the 4 under the wings), with a timer of 1s. The timer is really important in case the tank hides near trees. Bombs with an impact fuse will often detonate upon touching the trees foliage, doing no damage to the tank. The timer is the perfect remedy for that. Since the bombs are of tiny caliber, I use this configuration almost exclusively against static tanks. The go-to scenario is this: the skies have been swept clean of enemy fighters, the AAA has been taken down. If I don't see a static tank, I keep orbiting the area, flying low bank circles, always pointing my wingtip at the moving tanks. As soon as a tank stops moving, it's only a 90 degree turn for me to line it up, and less than 30 seconds between the tank stopping to bomb release.

 

The tank has stopped moving, here we go.

 

A relatively steep approach at moderate speed helps minimize the error in timing the bomb release.

 

Special delivery down the hatch!

 

Pulling up and enjoying the fireworks.

 

 

And here's one of our go-to tactics against the ferocious medium calibre AAA. The screenshots are from a tacview debrief.

I flew circles around the live AAA in my Fw 190 A-5 while JG27_AD aquired his target and started his run-in in a Bf 110 G-2. When at low level, we focus on the medium cal AAA first, as it's highest on the threat list.

 

With the AAA gunners focusing on my 190, the 110 killed an AAA with a safe, straight and accurate strafe run.

 

As the 110 pulls off target heading away from me, I turn my Fw 90 degrees into a second AAA, killing it about 10 seconds after AD killed his.

 

As I pull off target, we immediately reestablish formation, ready to provide mutual support. Here you see why it was important for him to turn away from me. Had he turned towards me, we'd either be heading into opposite directions (no possibility of mutual support), or I'd have aborted my attack in order to stay close to him.

Edited May 15, 2022 by JG27_PapaFly

[JG27*PapaFly]

Tomorrow we have our squad evening!

 

Where? OMD / CryHavoc server 

When? Thursday, 19-May, 1900 CET

 

Join our session if any of the following applies to you:

- You wanna check out the cool new missions that the 616th folks have built.

- You are interested in joining JG27

- You aspire to become a master FW 190 or Bf 109 pilot

- You like task-oriented game play with normal realism settings

- You want to learn team tactics 

- You have questions regarding gunnery, air-to-air or air-to-ground tactics, aerobatics, plane performance or about anything else related to this sim

- You're looking for a friendly environment where you can share your passion for WWII aviation

 

 

Edited May 18, 2022 by JG27_PapaFly

[JG27*Kornezov]

For single player and offline Campaign pilots we have exclusive content how to survive and dominate.

[JG27*PapaFly]

Last thursday we continued with combined air-to-air / air-to-ground ops on OMD / CryHavoc server.

A tanker was pulverized by a 500 kg bomb from one of our FW 190 A5.

 

After dropping the large bombs, it was time to go low and work the smaller targets with the 4 50 kg bombs hanging from the wings. Even with the small bombs still on board, the 190s managed to clear the skies by boom and zooming the defending LA5 FNs.

 

Out of bombs and ammo, JG27_Kornezov and I hugged the deck ad shoved the throttles forward to return to base. We use the ingress and egress to train our formation flying skills. It's soo cool to see your buddy hanging in the air really close, while the landscape is rushing by.

 

 

On the next map, we had strong opposition from the 616 folks. Here, I parked my 190 really close below Kornezovs stricken 109 to check for visible damage. Korny commited to land his bird despite having lost elevator control. Mutual support. Always. That's the team spirit we live by.

 

Despite his best efforts, Kornys bird hit the runway really hard, killing him instantly. I was on final approach and had to watch him die after we had managed to nurse his bird home for about 50 km. He should have bailed in hindsight, but landing a bird with elevator trim as the only means to control pitch is a tempting challenge.

 

https://imgur.com/a/RVZyxNw

[JG27_Arklight]

I'm slowly reacclimating to WW2 flying after being buried in DSC for a while. I'll probably be coming back though. Is there a JG27 Forum/Server or are we using this one?

 

Good to see Targ and Papafly still around. 

[III./SG77-vonStraussenburg]

Hi! Is there maybe a discord server or something similar where I could get in contact with you guys? I would be interested to get more details!

[JG27*PapaFly]

On 10/17/2022 at 6:10 PM, JG27_Arklight said:

I'm slowly reacclimating to WW2 flying after being buried in DSC for a while. I'll probably be coming back though. Is there a JG27 Forum/Server or are we using this one?

 

Good to see Targ and Papafly still around. 

Hi there Arklight! Great to see you're slotting back into the IL-2 groove! Check your PM. Drop by our discord server and say hello!

 

Salute!

On 10/25/2022 at 8:36 AM, Jupiter22 said:

Hi! Is there maybe a discord server or something similar where I could get in contact with you guys? I would be interested to get more details!

Hello Jupiter,

We use Discord primarily as a chatting platform.  For in-flight coms we use TeamSpeak. Check your PM for our discord invite. Let's chat on our recruitment channel and take it from there.

 

Salute!

[oFlyingDutchman]

Hello, may i get a dm also so i can chat about the details? 

 

[JG27_Arklight]

On 12/8/2022 at 10:59 AM, JG27_PapaFly said:

Hi there Arklight! Great to see you're slotting back into the IL-2 groove! Check your PM. Drop by our discord server and say hello!

 

Salute!

Hello Jupiter,

We use Discord primarily as a chatting platform.  For in-flight coms we use TeamSpeak. Check your PM for our discord invite. Let's chat on our recruitment channel and take it from there.

 

Salute!

 

I joined the Discord

[JG27*PapaFly]

On 12/8/2022 at 9:42 PM, oFlyingDutchman said:

Hello, may i get a dm also so i can chat about the details? 

 

Check your PMs Dutch

[JG27*Kornezov]

 

Are you looking for a thrilling and realistic online multiplayer experience ? Do you want to join a squad of experienced and friendly pilots (no pun intended) who fly Luftwaffe planes? Do you want to learn from the best and become a complete pilot yourself? If you answered yes to any of these questions, then you should join the original virtual JG27!

 

We are the oldest and most active virtual JG27 squad in the world. We started flying together in 1998 with Jane's World War II Fighters simulation, and since then we have been using the IL-2 series of games. We are not only gamers, but also contributors to the online community. For example, we developed the Hyperlobby client application that many players use to find online servers.

 

We fly with teamwork, realism and fun in mind. We respect our enemies and our allies, and we always follow the rules of engagement (again no pun intended). We train our new members with patience and dedication, and we help them to improve their skills and knowledge. We also have regular training events, competitions and campaigns to keep things interesting.

 

If you are interested in joining us, please write us PM or respond to the forum. You will need to have a working microphone, headset and joystick. You will also need to be at least 16 years old and speak English fluently. A college degree is appreciated.

 

Don't miss this opportunity to become part of the legendary virtual JG27 squad! Apply today and see you in the skies!

Combat Box 'Apollo' Dynamic Campaign Alpha 8

Edited July 30, 2023 by JG27*Kornezov