Need Help with Squadron Dates and Plane Types

[BlackSix]

4.(Pz)/Sch.G 2 (Hs 129 B-2) was used in North Africa

Oh damn, you're right. The two Hs 129 Staffeln of SchG 2 would not appear on the Eastern Front before Kursk.

I've next info from this russian book https://ozon-st.cdn.ngenix.net/multimedia/1003889375.jpg

4.(Pz)/Sch.G 2 arrived at Eastern front in the beginning of April

Hs 129 (W.Nr. 4046, oblt. Seuken) from 13.(Pz)/JG 51 was lost near Krymskayа on May 29 1943

On June 01 1943 were lost 1 Hs 129 from 13.(Pz)/JG 51 and 2 Hs 129 from 4.(Pz)/Sch.G 2 near Krymskayа

[BlackSix]

II.(Schlacht)/LG 2 is a difficult topic as exact bases are not really known and neither are transfer dates. It is known that they began "Typhoon" from two landing strips called "Moshna" and "Belyy", but I have been unable to find those. It is also known that they mostly operated in the area of Kalinin, being based at Kalinin-Süd on October 21/22 1941 while flying round-the-clock missions against soviet forces attacking 1st Panzer Division. It is also known that the Gruppe was temporarily shifted to Staraya Russa at some point in December 1941 and then showed up at Dugino in January 1942, but again exact dates are not available.

Thanks!

[LukeFF]

Ju 52 / He 111 transport units:

 

Squad No. / Name: KGrzbV5

Dates Squad flew in Theater: 24 November 1942 - February 1943 (Stalingrad)

Type of Planes Flown: He 111 H-6

Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A

Airfields: 

• Morozovskiy West
  

Squad No. / Name: KGrzbV9

Dates Squad flew in Theater: August 1942 - February 1943 (Stalingrad); March 1943 - April 1943 (Kuban)

Type of Planes Flown: Ju 52

Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A

Airfields:

• Kostiantynivka (Stalingrad): August 1942
  
• Taganrog-South (Stalingrad): 24 November 1942 - February 1943
  
• Sarabus (Kuban)
  

Squad No. / Name: KGrzbV20

Dates Squad flew in Theater: 3 December 1942 - February 1943 (Stalingrad)

Type of Planes Flown: He 111 H-6

Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A

Airfields: 

• Morozovskiy West: 3 December 1942
  
• Novocherkassk: 1 January 1943
  
• Dnepropetrovsk: 15 January 1943
  

Squad No. / Name: KGrzbV23

Dates Squad flew in Theater: 11 January 1943 - February 1943 (Stalingrad)

Type of Planes Flown: He 111 H-6

Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A

Airfields: 

• Kostiantynivka
  

Squad No. / Name: KGrzbV50

Dates Squad flew in Theater: July 1942 - February 1943 (Stalingrad)

Type of Planes Flown: Ju 52

Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A

Airfields: 

• Oblivskaya: July 1942
  
• Tatsinskaya : 24 November 1942
  
• Ssalsk: 25 December 1942
  

Squad No. / Name: KGrzbV102

Dates Squad flew in Theater: October 1942 - February 1943 (Stalingrad); March 1943 - May 1943 (Kuban)

Type of Planes Flown: Ju 52

Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A

Airfields: 

• Tatsinskaya (Stalingrad): October 1942 - 24 December 1942. 
  
• Ssalsk: (Stalingrad): 25 December 1942
  
• Sarabus (Kuban): March 1943 - May 1943
  

Squad No. / Name: KGrzbV105

Dates Squad flew in Theater: 24 November 1942 - February 1943 (Stalingrad); March 1943 - May 1943 (Kuban)

Type of Planes Flown: Ju 52

Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A

Airfields: 

• Tatsinskaya (Stalingrad): 24 November 1942 - 24 December 1942
  
• Ssalsk: (Stalingrad): 25 December 1942
  
• Simferopol (Kuban): March 1943 - May 1943
  

Squad No. / Name: KGrzbV500

Dates Squad flew in Theater: July 1942 - February 1943 (Stalingrad)

Type of Planes Flown: Ju 52

Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A

Airfields: 

• Oblivskaya: July 1942
  
• Tatsinskaya : 24 November 1942
  
• Ssalsk: 25 December 1942
  

Squad No. / Name: KGrzbV700

Dates Squad flew in Theater: July 1942 - February 1943 (Stalingrad)

Type of Planes Flown: Ju 52

Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A

Airfields: 

• Oblivskaya: July 1942
  
• Tatsinskaya : 24 November 1942
  
• Ssalsk: 25 December 1942
  

Squad No. / Name: KGrzbV900

Dates Squad flew in Theater: July 1942 - February 1943 (Stalingrad)

Type of Planes Flown: Ju 52

Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A

Airfields: 

• Oblivskaya: July 1942
  
• Tatsinskaya : 24 November 1942
  
• Ssalsk: 25 December 1942
  

Edited October 7, 2016 by LukeFF

[LukeFF]

Updated Ju 52 post with new information.

[Gunsmith86]

 

 

4.(Pz)/Sch.G 2 arrived at Eastern front in the beginning of April

 

Ok looked again 4.(Pz)/Sch.G 2 lost all its planes in january 1943 in North Africa got new ones in germany and arrived at Eastern front in the beginning of April.

Airfield used there is Zaporozhe they also got a new Commander Major Matuschek

Nothing more found.

[csThor]

I would say that it must have been 4.(Pz)/SchG 1 that operated over the Kuban Bridgehead. Could have been a simple typo in that book.

[707shap_Srbin]

Gents - in Battle of Kuban bridgehead, participated 4 Hs129 Staffeln - 4 and 8.(Pz.).Schl.G.1, 4.(Pz.)/Schl.G.2 and Pz.Jg.St./JG51.

 

 

4.(Pz)/Sch.G 2 

April 1943 - Zaporozhje, rest&refit

Early may 1943 - Kertch

Early june 1943 - Zaporozhje and then to Varvarovka (Battle of Kursk)

 

Panzerjagerstaffel./JG51

April 1943 - Kharkov, rest&refit

Early may 1943 - Kertch

Edited October 7, 2016 by I./ZG1_Panzerbar

[BlackSix]

Ok looked again 4.(Pz)/Sch.G 2 lost all its planes in january 1943 in North Africa got new ones in germany and arrived at Eastern front in the beginning of April.

Airfield used there is Zaporozhe they also got a new Commander Major Matuschek

Nothing more found.

4.(Pz)/Sch.G 2 

April 1943 - Zaporozhje, rest&refit

Early may 1943 - Kertch

Early june 1943 - Zaporozhje and then to Varvarovka (Battle of Kursk)

 

Panzerjagerstaffel./JG51

April 1943 - Kharkov, rest&refit

Early may 1943 - Kertch

Thanks!

[LukeFF]

Thanks!

 

I may be able to provide you with more precise dates for these two units. Just need to look through my books first. 

[BlackSix]

I may be able to provide you with more precise dates for these two units. Just need to look through my books first. 

Yes, that would be great)

[csThor]

Note: None  of the german bomber bases actually were in the area depicted by the BoM Map. As such replacements are needed. (Exception: III./KG 3 was actually based at Vyazma, but since it operated Do 17Z I left it out.) The situation of KG 28, KG 100 and III./KG 26 is quite confusing due to the redesignations happening all within a short amount of time.

 

Battle of Moscow

 

Squad No. / Name

I./KG 3

 

Dates Squad flew in Theater 

 

Shatalovka-West (use either Bol'shoe Vergovo, Vyazma or Dvoevka instead) - early September 1941 to December 6 1941

 

handed over remaining aircraft to other units and transfered for rest and reequipment to Germany

 

Type of Planes Flown 

Ju 88 A-4

 

Dates Plane Types were Changed

not applicable

 

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Squad No. / Name

II./KG 3

 

Dates Squad flew in Theater 

 

Shatalovka-West (use either Bol'shoe Vergovo, Vyazma or Dvoevka instead) - September 15 1941 to February 22 1942

Orsha-Süd (use either Bol'shoe Vergovo, Vyazma or Dvoevka instead) - February 22 1942 to May 19 1942

 

Type of Planes Flown 

Ju 88 A-4

 

Dates Plane Types were Changed

not applicable

 

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Squad No. / Name

II./KG 4

 

Dates Squad flew in Theater 

 

Seshchinskaya (use either Bol'shoe Vergovo, Vyazma or Dvoevka instead) - December 21 1941 to mid-January 1942

 

unit was transfered to Pskov-South for operations over the Demyansk & Kholm encirclements

 

Type of Planes Flown 

He 111 H-6

 

Dates Plane Types were Changed

not applicable

 

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Squad No. / Name

III./KG 4

 

Dates Squad flew in Theater 

 

Orsha-South (use either Bol'shoe Vergovo, Vyazma or Dvoevka instead) - early October 1941 to December 15 1942

 

unit was transfered to Pskov-South for operations over the Demyansk & Kholm encirclements

 

Type of Planes Flown 

He 111 H-6

 

Dates Plane Types were Changed

not applicable

 

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Squad No. / Name

I./KG 53

 

Dates Squad flew in Theater 

 

Shatalovka-East (use either Bol'shoe Vergovo, Vyazma or Dvoevka instead) - October 1 1941 to early/mid December 1941

 

unit was withdrawn to Germany for R&R

 

Type of Planes Flown 

He 111 H-6

 

Dates Plane Types were Changed

not applicable

 

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Squad No. / Name

II./KG 53

 

Dates Squad flew in Theater 

 

Shatalovka-East (use either Bol'shoe Vergovo, Vyazma or Dvoevka instead) - October 1 1941 to April 1942

 

unit was withdrawn to Germany for R&R

 

Type of Planes Flown 

He 111 H-6

 

Dates Plane Types were Changed

not applicable

 

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Squad No. / Name

III./KG 53

 

Dates Squad flew in Theater 

 

Shatalovka (use either Bol'shoe Vergovo, Vyazma or Dvoevka instead) - October 1 1941 to mid-January 1942

 

unit was withdrawn to Germany for R&R

 

Type of Planes Flown 

He 111 H-6

 

Dates Plane Types were Changed

not applicable

 

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Squad No. / Name

II./KG 54

 

Dates Squad flew in Theater 

 

Orsha-Süd (use either Bol'shoe Vergovo, Vyazma or Dvoevka instead) - January 22 1942 to July 8 1942

 

Type of Planes Flown 

Ju 88 A-4

 

Dates Plane Types were Changed

not applicable

 

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Squad No. / Name

I./KG 76

 

Dates Squad flew in Theater 

 

Orsha-Süd (use either Bol'shoe Vergovo, Vyazma or Dvoevka instead) - October 3 1941 to November 8 1941

 

unit transfered to Dno before withdrawing to Germany in late January 1942 for R&R

 

Type of Planes Flown 

Ju 88 A-4

 

Dates Plane Types were Changed

not applicable

 

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Squad No. / Name

II./KG 76

 

Dates Squad flew in Theater 

 

Orsha-Süd (use either Bol'shoe Vergovo, Vyazma or Dvoevka instead) - September 29 1941 to April 11 1942

 

starting Dec 17 1941 one Staffel after the other was sent on short R&R, withdrawn to Germany for refit in April 1942

 

Type of Planes Flown 

Ju 88 A-4

 

Dates Plane Types were Changed

not applicable

 

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Squad No. / Name

III./KG 76

 

Dates Squad flew in Theater 

 

Orsha-Süd (use either Bol'shoe Vergovo, Vyazma or Dvoevka instead) - October 10 1941 to April 11 1942

 

withdrawn to Germany for refit in April 1942

 

Type of Planes Flown 

Ju 88 A-4

 

Dates Plane Types were Changed

not applicable

 

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Squad No. / Name

I./KG 77

 

Dates Squad flew in Theater 

 

Orsha-Süd (use either Bol'shoe Vergovo, Vyazma or Dvoevka instead) - January 20 1942 to July 8 1942

 

unit transfered to France and redesignated I./KG 6

 

Type of Planes Flown 

Ju 88 A-4

 

Dates Plane Types were Changed

not applicable

 

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Squad No. / Name

KGr 100 (redesignated I./KG 100 Dec 15 1941)

 

Dates Squad flew in Theater 

 

Seshchinskaya (use either Bol'shoe Vergovo, Vyazma or Dvoevka instead) - October 9 8 1941 to November 11 13 1941

 

unit was transfered to Germany for R&R

 

Type of Planes Flown 

He 111 H-6

 

Dates Plane Types were Changed

not applicable

 

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Squad No. / Name

III./KG 26 (redesignated II./KG 100 Dec 15 1941)

 

Dates Squad flew in Theater 

 

Seshchinskaya (use either Bol'shoe Vergovo, Vyazma or Dvoevka instead) - September 29 1941 to February ?? 1942

 

unit was transfered to Germany for R&R

 

Type of Planes Flown 

He 111 H-6

 

Dates Plane Types were Changed

not applicable

 

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Squad No. / Name

I./KG 28 (redesignated III./KG 26 Dec 15 1941)

 

Dates Squad flew in Theater 

 

Seshchinskaya (use either Bol'shoe Vergovo, Vyazma or Dvoevka instead) - October 10 1941 to early February 1942

 

unit was transfered to Germany for R&R and was then redesignated I./KG 1

 

Type of Planes Flown 

He 111 H-6

 

Dates Plane Types were Changed

not applicable

 

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Amended October 11 for KGr 100 - slighty corrected dates (amendments in red).

Edited October 11, 2016 by csThor

[707shap_Srbin]

Also, for BoM I need more info about II.(Schlacht)/LG 2 (Bf 109 E-7)

Oct 1941 - Kalinin

12.41 - 13.01.42 - Dugino

 

[csThor]

Awesome find, Panzerbar.

 

So let's piece it together ...

 

Moschna was mentioned as first base for "Typhoon". I have found an airbase designated as such on the map that came with one of my "Jagdfliegerverbände" issues. According to this Moshna was located ca 20km west of Yartsevo in the LW Grid 35 Ost - 26 7 5. From there the unit moved to "Bjeloj" which is Bely (80km west of Sychevka). The next place - Konaja - has been impossible to find but looking at the direction of the previous (and the following) transfer it may be somewhere in between Bely and Kalinin. Then comes Kalinin (even though it's only documented that they were there on October 21/22) before moving back to Dugino (probably for a little R&R and to make good the losses they suffered) before they were sent to Ruza and back into the thick of it. And then, when the counter-offensive took off, they went back to Dugino.

Edited October 10, 2016 by csThor

[LukeFF]

Also, for BoM I need more info about II.(Schlacht)/LG 2 (Bf 109 E-7)

 

Will this unit and I./Sch.G.1 be separate units in the game or will they be one? As I'm sure you know, the career generator has the ability to rename units on any given date. It should probably be just one unit:

 

On 13.1.42 redesignated I./Sch.G. 1:

Stab II./LG2 became Stab I./Sch.G. 1

4./LG2 became 1./Sch.G. 1

5./LG2 became 2./Sch.G. 1

6./LG2 became 3./Sch.G. 1

 

Edited October 10, 2016 by LukeFF

[BlackSix]

Will this unit and I./Sch.G.1 be separate units in the game or will they be one? As I'm sure you know, the career generator has the ability to rename units on any given date. It should probably be just one unit:

I can't answer now, I'll start to do this work only next week.

[BlackSix]

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Awesome find, Panzerbar.

 

So let's piece it together ...

 

Moschna was mentioned as first base for "Typhoon". I have found an airbase designated as such on the map that came with one of my "Jagdfliegerverbände" issues. According to this Moshna was located ca 20km west of Yartsevo in the LW Grid 35 Ost - 26 7 5. From there the unit moved to "Bjeloj" which is Bely (80km west of Sychevka). The next place - Konaja - has been impossible to find but looking at the direction of the previous (and the following) transfer it may be somewhere in between Bely and Kalinin. Then comes Kalinin (even though it's only documented that they were there on October 21/22) before moving back to Dugino (probably for a little R&R and to make good the losses they suffered) before they were sent to Ruza and back into the thick of it. And then, when the counter-offensive took off, they went back to Dugino.

Thanks! What do you think when they could move back to Dugino from Kailinin in October?

15.(span.)/JG 27 left Kalinin on October 28

Stab./JG52 - on October 30

I./JG 52 - on October 31

II./JG 52 - on October 30

 

Also I find any info about personnel and history of I./JG 52 in October and November 1941.

I've only Osprey's and Kagero's books about JG 52 and I know about this site http://www.jg52.net/

[csThor]

Amended October 11 with additional information provided by Costa (post #60).

 

 

@ BlackSix

 

It is definitely known that they were in Kalinin only on October 21 and 22 1941 - because 1st Panzer Division had been cut off by a soviet counter-attack and air power was needed to deal with that.

 

The following could be a plausible entry, but I have to stress that this is pretty speculative with regards to the dates given (except for Kalinin-Süd). I left our the stages at Moshna and Bely because both are far outside the map area - in any case the time the Gruppe spent there must have been rather short given the rapid advance of Panzergruppe 3.

 

Squad No. / Name

II.(Schlacht)/LG 2 (redesignated I./SchG 1 January 13 1942)

 

Dates Squad flew in Theater 

 

Konaja (or Konaja, unknown location, use Dugino instead = Sychevka) - probably early October 1941 (maybe Oct 9 just like 15./JG 27??) - October 21 1941

Kalinin - Süd - October 21 1941 to October 22 1941

Dugino - October 22 1941 - early November 1941

Ruza - early November 1941 to most likely mid-December (15th?) 1941

Dugino - mid-December 1941 to March 15 1942

 

was transfered to Germany for Rest & Refit

 

Type of Planes Flown 

Bf 109 E-7 (fighter-bomber role)

 

Dates Plane Types were Changed

not applicable

Edited October 11, 2016 by csThor

[707shap_Srbin]

 

 

Konaya (or Konaja, unknown location, use Dugino instead)

 

Must be Konnaja (Конная in russian, from Конь = horse).  

[BlackSix]

@ BlackSix

 

It is definitely known that they were in Kalinin only on October 21 and 22 1941 - because 1st Panzer Division had been cut off by a soviet counter-attack and air power was needed to deal with that.

 

The following could be a plausible entry, but I have to stress that this is pretty speculative with regards to the dates given (except for Kalinin-Süd). I left our the stages at Moshna and Bely because both are far outside the map area - in any case the time the Gruppe spent there must have been rather short given the rapid advance of Panzergruppe 3.

 

Squad No. / Name

II.(Schlacht)/LG 2 (redesignated I./SchG 1 January 13 1942)

 

Dates Squad flew in Theater 

 

Konaya (or Konaja, unknown location, use Dugino instead) - probably early October 1941 - October 21 1941

Kalinin - Süd - October 21 1941 to October 22 1941

Dugino - October 22 1941 - early November 1941

Ruza - early November 1941 to most likely mid-December (15th?) 1941

Dugino - mid-December 1941 to March 15 1942

 

was transfered to Germany for Rest & Refit

 

Type of Planes Flown 

Bf 109 E-7 (fighter-bomber role)

 

Dates Plane Types were Changed

not applicable

Thank you very much!

[15[Span.]/JG51Costa]

Dear Jason, BlackSix and all that try hard to help:

 

As a member of the Virtual 15(Span.)/JG51 I would like that you feel free to take all the information you need from our webside  http://www.escuadrillasazules.es/

 

We have tried to gather all possible information on the five Spanish squadrons that flew in Russia.

You will see that on the left side of the web, is all about historical information, and clicking on the button of each squadron you could see the description of the events, the pilots that formed with corresponding photos, flown planes and best of it, is that pressing the button of the bases you could see through Google maps the exact spot from where they flew.

The website is not yet completed and lacks many details but I hope you find it useful.

 

 

 

This is the path made by the first squadron. (dashed lines are the path traveled by the ground staff)

 

 

Some information:

 

Designation in the Luftwaffe 15(Span.)/JG27 VIII. Fliegerkorps Luftflotte 2

Constituted 14-JUL-1941

Arrival at Front 1-OCT-1941

Pilots: 17 Lost 5

Ground Staff: 93 Lost 1

Bases:

Moschna 09/24/41 to 10/07/41

Bjeloj  10/07/41 to 10/09/41

Konaja  10/09/41 to 10/16/41

Kalinin  10/16/41 to 10/28/41

Staritza  10/28/41 to 11/06/41

Russa  11/06/41 to 11/25/41

Klin 11/25/41 to 12/10/41

Russa  12/10/41 to 12/15/41

Dugvino  12/15/41 to 01/07/42

Witebsk  01/07/42 to 02/13/42

Removing the Front 2-FEB-1942

Dissolved 4-MAR-1942

Aircraft used Bf-109E 7 / B

Missions 460 

Dogfights 94

Downed planes 10  (Types 3 Pe-2 1 I-16 1 I-18 Is Mig-3? 1 DB-3 1 Pet-3 )

 

Hope it helps.

Saludos.

15(Span.)/JG51Costa.

 

 

Edited October 11, 2016 by 15[Span.]/JG51Costa

[csThor]

Thank you, Costa. Your little pic has also revealed the location of this ominous "Konaja" airfield - it's Sychevka. I will amend the post for II.(Schlacht)/LG 2 and the one I made for 15.(span)/JG 27 according to your detailed list.

[BlackSix]

Dear Jason, BlackSix and all that try hard to help:

 

As a member of the Virtual 15(Span.)/JG51 I would like that you feel free to take all the information you need from our webside  http://www.escuadrillasazules.es/

 

We have tried to gather all possible information on the five Spanish squadrons that flew in Russia.

You will see that on the left side of the web, is all about historical information, and clicking on the button of each squadron you could see the description of the events, the pilots that formed with corresponding photos, flown planes and best of it, is that pressing the button of the bases you could see through Google maps the exact spot from where they flew.

The website is not yet completed and lacks many details but I hope you find it useful.

Thank you very much, Costa! You did excellent site, I'm very impressed.

I want to tell more about 15.(span.)/JG 27 in my next work. So, could you translate to English for me this text from your site?

I can't copy it and use Google Translate.

[BlackSix]

Thank you, Costa. Your little pic has also revealed the location of this ominous "Konaja" airfield - it's Sychevka. I will amend the post for II.(Schlacht)/LG 2 and the one I made for 15.(span)/JG 27 according to your detailed list.

I found for you "Konaja" on Russian map. It's a village or settlement southeast Sychevka - "Конное" - "Konnoje"

But we made an airfield in the another place...

[csThor]

Good. Since Sychevka airfield is in a pretty good spot on the map already I think we can safely use it as a replacement.

[15[Span.]/JG51Costa]

Thank you, Costa. Your little pic has also revealed the location of this ominous "Konaja" airfield - it's Sychevka. I will amend the post for II.(Schlacht)/LG 2 and the one I made for 15.(span)/JG 27 according to your detailed list.

 

Glad it helps.

Moshna and Konaja were the most dificult emplacements to find out.

 

Thank you very much, Costa! You did excellent site, I'm very impressed.

I want to tell more about 15.(span.)/JG 27 in my next work. So, could you translate to English for me this text from your site?

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I can't copy it and use Google Translate.

Tx BlackSix for your interest.

Do not hesitate to ask anything.

 

Original text:

El 19 de Octubre, Weiss dicta órdenes de alerta máxima a los aviones, debiendo quedar el personal de tierra comprometido en la defensa de las pistas cuando los aviones estén en operación "...yo espero que bajo cualquier sacrificio mantengamos la parte sur del campo" termina diciendo la orden. Se encarga a la Escuadrilla. proteger el repliegue de los Stukas. 

El 21 de Octubre son averiados dos aparatos españoles en un ataque ruso a la base.

El 22 de Octubre llegan refuerzos con munición y combustibles y se obliga a los rusos a retirarse del campo oeste, pasando nuestra aviación al contraataque, localizados  algunos aparatos I-18 en el aeródromo de Klin, se ametralla el campo en dos servicios realizados por Salas, Muñoz y Bayo acompañados de mañana por Ibarreche, Lacourt, Cesteros y Carracido, consiguiendo abatir tres aparatos en el suelo y en la tarde por Busquets y Arístides,, no pudiendo sorprender a los rusos esta vez. 

El 27 de Octubre Salas derriba un DB-3 sobre el campo ruso y al volver ametrallan un tren ruso al que obligan a detenerse. Dos misiones de ataque al suelo contra el fuego de batería ruso sobre Kalinin son encomendadas "expresamente" por Richtofen a los "veteranos españoles".

El día 31 de Octubre, ya trasladada la Escuadrilla. a Staritza, Von Richtofen impone al Comandante Salas, la Cruz de Hierro de 1ª Clase, y el 1 de Noviembre llega la felicitación de Kesselring.

 

Traslated:

On 19 October, Weiss dictates orders of maximum alert to the aircraft, the ground staff is committed to the defense of the tracks when the aircraft are in operation "...I hope that under any sacrifice we maintain the southern part of the field" ends by saying the order. It instructs the squad. Protect the redeployment of the Stuka.

On 21 October are damaged two Spanish planes in a Russian attack to the base.

On 22 October reinforcements arrive with ammunition and fuel and undertakes to the Russians to withdraw from the west field, passing our aviation to the counterattack, located some  I-18 planes at the aerodrome of Klin, is strafed the field in two missions performed by Salas, Muñoz and Bayo accompanied by morning by Ibarreche, Lacourt, Cesteros and Carracido, achieving the destrucción of three planes in the ground and in the early afternoon by Busquets and Arístides, not being able to surprise the Russians this time.

On 27 October Salas demolish a DB-3 on the Russian field and in the way home  strafe a Russian train  that force it to stop. Two missions of ground attack against Russian AAA battery on Kalinin are entrusted "expressly" by Richthofen to "Spanish veterans".

On 31 October, already transferred the Squadron to Staritza, Von Richthofen imposes to the Commander Salas, the Iron Cross 1st Class, and  1st November arrives the congratulations of Kesselring.

 

Please, if some one with better English than me found a mistake, please correct me.

 

Saludos

15(Span.)/JG51 Costa

Edited October 11, 2016 by 15[Span.]/JG51Costa

[BlackSix]

Thank you very much, Costa, this information is very helpful for me.

[LukeFF]

La-5 Units at Stalingrad:

 

Squad No. / Name: 13 IAP

Dates Squad flew in Theater: 10 November 1942 (earliest known date) - February 1943(?)
Type of Planes Flown: La-5
Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A
Airfields: 

• Leninsk 

Squad No. / Name: 27 IAP
Dates Squad flew in Theater: 20 August 1942 - February 1943(?)
Type of Planes Flown: La-5
Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A
Airfields: 

• Verkhnyaya Akhtuba
• Srednaya Akhtuba (as of 10 November 1942)

Squad No. / Name: 240 IAP
Dates Squad flew in Theater: 20 August 1942 - unknown
Type of Planes Flown: La-5
Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A
Airfields: 

• Verkhnyaya Akhtuba

Squad No. / Name: 297 IAP
Dates Squad flew in Theater: 20 August 1942 - unknown
Type of Planes Flown: La-5
Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A
Airfields: 

• Verkhnyaya Akhtuba

Squad No. / Name: 437 IAP
Dates Squad flew in Theater: 20 August 1942 - February 1943(?)
Type of Planes Flown: La-5
Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A
Airfields: 

• Verkhnyaya Akhtuba
• Zhitkur (as of 10 November 1942)

Edited October 11, 2016 by LukeFF

[LukeFF]

Pe-2 Units at Stalingrad:

 

Squad No. / Name: 8 ORAP

Dates Squad flew in Theater: August 1942 - unknown
Type of Planes Flown: Pe-2 Series 87
Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A
Airfields: 

• State Farm Stalingradskiy

Squad No. / Name: 30 BAP

Dates Squad flew in Theater: 10 November 1942 (earliest known date) - February 1943(?)
Type of Planes Flown: Pe-2 Series 87
Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A
Airfields: 

• Yelton

Squad No. / Name: 86 BAP
Dates Squad flew in Theater: August 1942 - February 1943(?)
Type of Planes Flown: Pe-2 Series 87
Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A
Airfields: 

• Soldatskoye-Stepnoye
• Vishnevka (as of 10 November 1942)

Squad No. / Name: 140 BAP
Dates Squad flew in Theater: August 1942 - unknown 
Type of Planes Flown: Pe-2 Series 87
Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A
Airfields: 

• Uchkhoz

Squad No. / Name: 275 BAP
Dates Squad flew in Theater: August 1942 - unknown 
Type of Planes Flown: Pe-2 Series 87
Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A
Airfields:

• Soldatskoye-Stepnoye

Squad No. / Name: 284 BAP
Dates Squad flew in Theater: August 1942 - February 1943(?)
Type of Planes Flown: Pe-2 Series 87
Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A
Airfields:

• Rakhinskiy
• Vishnevka (as of 10 November 1942)

Squad No. / Name: 797 BAP
Dates Squad flew in Theater: August 1942 - unknown 
Type of Planes Flown: Pe-2 Series 87
Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A
Airfields:

• Soldatskoye-Stepnoye

Edited October 11, 2016 by LukeFF

[LukeFF]

Il-2 Units at Stalingrad:

 

Squad No. / Name: 190 ShAP

Dates Squad flew in Theater: 10 November 1942 (earliest known date) - February 1943(?)

Type of Planes Flown: Il-2 M42
Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A
Airfields:

• Bolshevik

Squad No. / Name: 225 ShAP

Dates Squad flew in Theater: 10 November 1942 (earliest known date) - February 1943(?)

Type of Planes Flown: Il-2 M42
Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A
Airfields:

• Katrichev

Squad No. / Name: 232 ShAP

Dates Squad flew in Theater: 10 November 1942 (earliest known date) - February 1943(?)

Type of Planes Flown: Il-2 M42
Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A
Airfields:

• Nachalova

Squad No. / Name: 503 ShAP

Dates Squad flew in Theater: 10 November 1942 (earliest known date) - February 1943(?)
Type of Planes Flown: Il-2 M42
Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A
Airfields:

• Solodovka

Squad No. / Name: 504 ShAP

Dates Squad flew in Theater: August 1942 - February 1943(?)
Type of Planes Flown: Il-2 M42
Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A
Airfields:

• Zhitkur
• Demidov (as of 10 November 1942)

Squad No. / Name: 505 ShAP

Dates Squad flew in Theater: August 1942 - February 1943(?)
Type of Planes Flown: Il-2 M42
Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A
Airfields:

• Zhitkur
• Stolyarovo (as of 10 November 1942)

Squad No. / Name: 618 ShAP

Dates Squad flew in Theater: August 1942 - February 1943(?)
Type of Planes Flown: Il-2 M42
Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A
Airfields:

• State Farm Stalingradskiy
• Vishnevka (as of 10 November 1942)

Squad No. / Name: 621 ShAP

Dates Squad flew in Theater: August 1942 - unknown
Type of Planes Flown: Il-2 M42
Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A
Airfields:

• Zaplavnoye

Squad No. / Name: 622 ShAP

Dates Squad flew in Theater: 10 November 1942 (earliest known date) - February 1943(?)
Type of Planes Flown: Il-2 M42
Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A
Airfields:

• Vishnevka

Squad No. / Name: 686 ShAP

Dates Squad flew in Theater: August 1942 - February 1943(?)
Type of Planes Flown: Il-2 M42
Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A
Airfields:

• Leninsk
• Kapustin Yar (as of 10 November 1942)

Squad No. / Name: 688 ShAP

Dates Squad flew in Theater: August 1942 - unknown
Type of Planes Flown: Il-2 M42
Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A
Airfields:

• State Farm Stalingradskiy

Squad No. / Name: 694 ShAP

Dates Squad flew in Theater: August 1942 - unknown
Type of Planes Flown: Il-2 M42
Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A
Airfields: 

• Novo-Giorgiyevka

Squad No. / Name: 766 ShAP

Dates Squad flew in Theater: August 1942 - unknown
Type of Planes Flown: Il-2 M42
Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A
Airfields:

• Leninsk

Squad No. / Name: 806 ShAP

Dates Squad flew in Theater: 10 November 1942 (earliest known date) - February 1943(?)
Type of Planes Flown: Il-2 M42
Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A
Airfields:

• Ivanovskiy

Squad No. / Name: 807 ShAP

Dates Squad flew in Theater: 10 November 1942 (earliest known date) - February 1943(?)
Type of Planes Flown: Il-2 M42
Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A
Airfields:

• Kapustin Yar

Squad No. / Name: 811 ShAP

Dates Squad flew in Theater: August 1942 - February 1943(?)
Type of Planes Flown: Il-2 M42
Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A
Airfields:

• Solodovka
• Kapustin Yar (as of 10 November 1942)

Squad No. / Name: 944 ShAP

Dates Squad flew in Theater: 10 November 1942 (earliest known date) - February 1943(?)
Type of Planes Flown: Il-2 M42
Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A
Airfields:

• Demidov

Squad No. / Name: 945 ShAP

Dates Squad flew in Theater: 10 November 1942 (earliest known date) - February 1943(?)
Type of Planes Flown: Il-2 M42
Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A
Airfields:

• Karakul

[LukeFF]

Other Fighter Units at Stalingrad:

 

Squad No. / Name: 4 IAP

Dates Squad flew in Theater: August 1942 - February 1943(?)
Type of Planes Flown: Yak-7B, Yak-1, Yak-1B
Dates Plane Types were Changed: 10 November 1942 changeover date listed for Yak-1. Yak-1B probably December 1942.
Airfields:

• Demodov

Squad No. / Name: 11 IAP

Dates Squad flew in Theater: August 1942 - February 1943(?)
Type of Planes Flown: Yak-1, Yak-1B
Dates Plane Types were Changed: December 1942(?) - probably a mix of new and old Yak-1s.
Airfields:

• Zaplavnoye
• Kapustin Yar (as of 10 November 1942)

Squad No. / Name: 126 IAP

Dates Squad flew in Theater: 28 August 1942 - 18 September 1942
Type of Planes Flown: P-40
Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A
Airfields:

• Leninsk

Squad No. / Name: 148 IAP

Dates Squad flew in Theater: August 1942 - February 1943(?)
Type of Planes Flown: Yak-7B, LaGG-3, Yak-1, Yak-1B
Dates Plane Types were Changed: Yak-7B listed for 1 September 1942 in resources. LaGG-3 and Yak-1 listed for 10 November 1942 date in resources. Yak-1B probably December 1942
Airfields:

• Zhitkur
• Nachalova (as of 10 November 1942)

Squad No. / Name: 273 IAP

Dates Squad flew in Theater: August 1942 - February 1943(?)
Type of Planes Flown: Yak-1, Yak-1B
Dates Plane Types were Changed: December 1942(?) - probably a mix of new and old Yak-1s.
Airfields:

• Srednaya Akhtuba
• Solodovka (as of 10 November 1942)

Squad No. / Name: 296 IAP

Dates Squad flew in Theater: August 1942 - February 1943(?)
Type of Planes Flown: Yak-1, Yak-1B, Yak-7B
Dates Plane Types were Changed: Yak-7Bs listed for all dates in sources. Yak-1B probably December 1942
Airfields:

• Leninsk
• Solodovka (as of 10 November 1942)

Squad No. / Name: 652 IAP PVO

Dates Squad flew in Theater: August 1942 - February 1943(?)
Type of Planes Flown: I-16, I-15, I-15bis, Yak-1, Hurricane
Dates Plane Types were Changed: I-16 and I-15 listed for 1 September in resources. I-15bis, Yak-1, and Hurricane listed for 10 December 1942 in resources.
Airfields:

• Astrakhan

Edited October 11, 2016 by LukeFF

[LukeFF]

Other Fighter Units at Stalingrad:

 

Squad No. / Name: 6 IAP

Dates Squad flew in Theater: August 1942 - unknown
Type of Planes Flown: Yak-1, Yak-7B

Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A
Airfields:

• Zhitkur

Squad No. / Name: 12 IAP

Dates Squad flew in Theater: August 1942 - unknown
Type of Planes Flown: Yak-7B

Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A
Airfields:

• Demodov

Squad No. / Name: 43 IAP

Dates Squad flew in Theater: August 1942 - unknown
Type of Planes Flown: Yak-1

Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A
Airfields:

• State Farm Stalingradskiy

Squad No. / Name: 143 IAP

Dates Squad flew in Theater: August 1942 - unknown
Type of Planes Flown: Yak-1

Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A
Airfields:

• Zhitkur

Squad No. / Name: 237 IAP

Dates Squad flew in Theater: August 1942 - unknown
Type of Planes Flown: Yak-1

Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A
Airfields:

• Semyonovka

Squad No. / Name: 439 IAP PVO

Dates Squad flew in Theater: August 1942 - unknown
Type of Planes Flown: MiG-3

Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A
Airfields:

• Srednaya Akhtuba

Squad No. / Name: 512 IAP

Dates Squad flew in Theater: August 1942 - unknown
Type of Planes Flown: Yak-1

Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A
Airfields:

• Semyonovka

Squad No. / Name: 515 IAP

Dates Squad flew in Theater: August 1942 - unknown
Type of Planes Flown: Yak-1

Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A
Airfields:

• Leninsk

Squad No. / Name: 651 IAP PVO

Dates Squad flew in Theater: August 1942 - unknown
Type of Planes Flown: Yak-1, I-15, Hurricane

Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A
Airfields:

• Srednaya Akhtuba

Squad No. / Name: 864 IAP

Dates Squad flew in Theater: August 1942 - unknown
Type of Planes Flown: LaGG-3

Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A
Airfields:

• Zhitkur

Squad No. / Name: 867 IAP

Dates Squad flew in Theater: August 1942 - unknown
Type of Planes Flown: Yak-1

Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A
Airfields:

• State Farm Stalingradskiy

Squad No. / Name: 900 IAP

Dates Squad flew in Theater: August 1942 - unknown
Type of Planes Flown: Yak-7B

Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A
Airfields:

• Kirovo

Edited October 11, 2016 by LukeFF

[LukeFF]

Other Fighter Units at Stalingrad:

 

Squad No. / Name: 2 IAP

Dates Squad flew in Theater: 10 November 1942 (earliest known date) - February 1943(?)
Type of Planes Flown: Yak-1, Yak-1B

Dates Plane Types were Changed: Yak-1 and Yak-1B probably flown together from December 1942
Airfields:

• Demidov

Squad No. / Name: 15 IAP

Dates Squad flew in Theater: 10 November 1942 (earliest known date) - February 1943(?)
Type of Planes Flown: LaGG-3

Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A
Airfields:

• Stolyarovo

Squad No. / Name: 236 IAP

Dates Squad flew in Theater: 10 November 1942 (earliest known date) - February 1943(?)
Type of Planes Flown: Yak-1, Yak-7B

Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A
Airfields:

• Bolshevik

Squad No. / Name: 274 IAP

Dates Squad flew in Theater: 10 November 1942 (earliest known date) - February 1943(?)
Type of Planes Flown: Yak-1, Yak-1B

Dates Plane Types were Changed: Yak-1 and Yak-1B probably flown together from December 1942
Airfields:

• Vladimirovka

Squad No. / Name: 293 IAP

Dates Squad flew in Theater: 10 November 1942 (earliest known date) - February 1943(?)
Type of Planes Flown: Yak-1, Yak-1B

Dates Plane Types were Changed: Yak-1 and Yak-1B probably flown together from December 1942
Airfields:

• Srednaya Akhtuba

Squad No. / Name: 572 IAP PVO

Dates Squad flew in Theater: 10 December 1942 (earliest known date) - February 1943(?)
Type of Planes Flown: LaGG-3, I-16, I-15bis, P-40 Kittyhawk

Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A
Airfields:

• Verkhniy Baskunchak

Squad No. / Name: 629 IAP PVO

Dates Squad flew in Theater: 10 December 1942 (earliest known date) - February 1943(?)
Type of Planes Flown: Hurricane, I-16, I-153, I-15bis

Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A
Airfields:

• Ventilevka

Squad No. / Name: 788 IAP PVO

Dates Squad flew in Theater: 10 December 1942 (earliest known date) - February 1943(?)
Type of Planes Flown: Yak-1, Yak-7B

Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A
Airfields:

• Vladimirovka

[LukeFF]

@BlackSix, here's the info I have from Dive Bomber and Ground Attack Units of the Luftwaffe for II.(Schlacht)/LG 2:

 

At the end of September, transferred from Lyuban back to the central sector with VIII.Fliegerkorps for the attack on Moscow, flying direct support for the battles around Bryansk on 2 October.

 

October - November: moved to field strips at Belyy and Moshna a few days later to support 9th Army, Panzer Group 3, and 6th Panzer Division in action around Vyazma and the offensive towards Kalinin. On 14 October, 3 Bf 109 E-7s were lost in heavy fighting in the Kalinin area, and three more damaged there on 18 October. At Kalinin-South on 21-22 October where the Gruppe flew near round the clock attacks on Russian forces that had cut off and isolated 1st Panzer Division. The little Hs 123 biplanes particularly distinguished themselves in the desperate fighting around Kalinin. While there, the Bf 109 pilots also received orders to engage and shoot down every enemy plane encountered over the Kalinin sector. Back at Belyy on 24 October, but then returned to Kalinin-Luchinovka by the end of the month.

 

November: supported the continuing drive towards Moscow, although many missions were scrubbed due to bad flying weather. 27 November: 10th Staffel was operating from Staraya Russa at the south end of Lake Ilmen where heavy fighting was underway.

 

December: by December the Gruppe was in support of the intense defensive fighting along the entire front from Moscow north-west to Lake Ilmen that began with the Soviet counter-offensive on 5 December. Base changes were rapid and frequent as the Gruppe attempted to support the German retreat towards the west. On 13 December, 4th Staffel (at least), is known to have been operating from Staraya Russa at the south end of Lake Ilmen.

 

6 January: now based at Dugino / 65 km south of Rzhev, where it was renamed I./Schlachtgeschwader 1 on 13 January 1942. 10.Staffel was probably renamed 8.(Pz)/Schlachtgeschwader 1 on the same date, although the lineage is not absolutely clear.

 

So, in short:

 

October-November: Belyy and Moshna

21-22 October: Kalinin-South

24 October: Belyy

End of October: Kalinin-Luchinovka

27 November: Staraya-Russa

6 January: Dugino

13 January: now I./Sch.G. 1

[LukeFF]

I./Sch.G 1 in Moscow:

 

Dates Squad flew in Theater: 13 January 1942 - mid-March 1942

Type of Planes Flown: Bf 109 E-7

Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A 

Airfields: Dugino

Note: this is the renamed II.(Schlacht)/LG 2.

[LukeFF]

8.(Pz)/Sch.G 1 (source: Dive Bomber and Ground Attack Units of the Luftwaffe):

 

Theater: Moscow

Dates Squad flew in Theater: 13 January 1942 - early April 1942

Type of Planes Flown: Bf 109 E-7

Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A 

Airfields: Dugino

Note: known officially at 8./Sch.G 1 at this time. Same unit that later became 8.(Pz)/Sch.G 1. 

 

4.(Pz)/Sch.G 2 (source: Dive Bomber and Ground Attack Units of the Luftwaffe):

 

Theater: Kuban

Dates Squad flew in Theater: May 1943 - Early June 1943

Type of Planes Flown: Hs 129

Dates Plane Types were Changed: N/A 

Airfields: Kerch

[BlackSix]

@BlackSix, here's the info I have from Dive Bomber and Ground Attack Units of the Luftwaffe for II.(Schlacht)/LG 2:

Thank you very much! This info will be very useful for my current work and for the BOM campaign.

[LukeFF]

Thank you very much! This info will be very useful for my current work and for the BOM campaign.

Great! I'll look through one of my other books to see what it says about Panzerjagdstaffel/JG51.

[LukeFF]

@BlackSix, there's not a whole lot of info out there on 13.(Pz)/JG 51, but the book Hs 129 Panzerjäger! confirms what Panzerbar wrote above - namely that it was operating from Kerch V from early May 1943. This seems to have lasted until early June 1943. Page 144 from the book states:

 

Early in June 1943, all Luftwaffe Hs 129 Staffeln on the Eastern Front, with the exception of Pz.Jä.St./JG 51, were completely withdrawn from operations and moved back to the Führer der Panzerjäger's support airfield at Zaporozhye where they were restored to full operational strength. While operating under the command of Oblt. Eggers, Pz.Jä.St./JG 51 had escaped heavy losses and...it was therefore able to remain at its airfield near Kharkov.

 

So, for the Kuban portion of career mode, I would keep 13.(Pz)/JG 51 at Kerch V from early May - early June 1943 and then withdraw it, along with any other Hs 129 units on the map. 

[707shap_Srbin]

13.(Pz)/JG 51 was renamed Panzerjagerstaffel./JG51 in late march - early april 1943.

[csThor]

The way I understood the bits and pieces I've found on II.(Schlacht)/LG 2 the posting to Staraya Russa was only for the (semi)independent 10.  Staffel which flew Hs 123 and operated independently of the Gruppe. My post #57 still provides a pretty good view - especially since it would allow for the campaign to remain uninterrupted. As it is it's not really known in detail where the Bf 109s of the Gruppe were in this timeframe with any great certainty beyond a few specific dates.