Tactical Air War

[Gustav_Hagel]

https://taw.stg2.de/pilot_sortie.php?id=74700&name=SCG_Gustav_Hagel

@=LG=Kathon

=LG=Cygi twice engaged me, even though I told on SRS what was happening and ID'ed myself. He did 2 passes, failed the first one and pulled off less than 100m away, not sure how he couldn't ID and didn't suspect anything when I dove WEST INWARDS Axis territory. I suspect intentional friendly fire, or maybe shoot first and ask later.

Edited November 21, 2020 by SCG_Gustav_Hagel

[Cygi]

I'm really sorry. I was flying a lot lately and was really tired. I was sure you were a Spitfire. My fault and apologies. I don't have SRS.

[Gustav_Hagel]

10 minutes ago, =LG=Cygi said:

I'm really sorry. I was flying a lot lately and was really tired. I was sure you were a Spitfire. My fault and apologies. I don't have SRS.

it's ok

[I./ZG1_HeTzeR]

The server should be renamed to Tactical Air Draw and the side whos drawing first, gets a draw

 

Draw

 

Every goddamn Map we get a draw...(was it like this before?) and yes, of course its not everymap, but only 3 were something else

[Chivas_Regal]

On 11/20/2020 at 8:24 PM, xJammer said:

@=LG=Kathon

 

http://taw.stg2.de/pilot_sortie.php?id=72037&name==FPS=Cutlass

 

Pilot exited while on fire to preserve life/aircraft.

 

@=LG=Kathon

http://taw.stg2.de/pilot_sortie.php?id=75212&name=1./JG42flesch

Pilot exited while on fire to preserve life

[Cpt_Siddy]

46 minutes ago, III./ZG1_HeTzeR said:

The server should be renamed to Tactical Air Draw and the side whos drawing first, gets a draw

 

Draw

 

Every goddamn Map we get a draw...(was it like this before?) and yes, of course its not everymap, but only 3 were something else

 

Axis tanks are generally harder to kill, but the overall number is more or less the same. 

 

You have, in this thread, geniuses saying that its ok to have equivalent number of mediums and heavies on axis side to soviet mediums and lights... Lights that can be killed from 20mm cannon. It may be true that soviets had T70's back in 1943, what they omit is that soviets had them by a boat load. Something that is not represented in here... 

My proof?

 

Exibit A: Hitler whining to Mannerheim how 1942 TAW was unbalanced and Soviets had too much tonks

 

 

 

 

Then you have a paratroopers, that mitigate two captured fields, that can mitigate lots of tanks from soviet side just by clutch capturing fields back where soviet wasted anywhere from 40 to 80 tanks. 

 

Only thing that is saving soviets right now is the fact that we have core of 20 players that play to win and not to farm a streak.  

 

In the end, it is far far easier to kill tanks than to defend them. Even when outnumbered and with minimal fighter cover, surrounded by German bounce-lords, soviet still manage to kill blue tanks. 

[[110]xJammer]

13 minutes ago, Cpt_Siddy said:

 

Axis tanks are generally harder to kill, but the overall number is more or less the same. 

 

 

 

Funniest thing in this thread... ?

[Cpt_Siddy]

44 minutes ago, xJammer said:

 

 

Funniest thing in this thread... ?

 

How many German medium tanks you can kill with 20mm cannons? 

[[110]xJammer]

3 minutes ago, Cpt_Siddy said:

 

How many German medium tanks you can kill with 20mm cannons? 

 

 

IIRC reds get 37mm AT gun in their +1 fighter....

[Cpt_Siddy]

7 minutes ago, xJammer said:

 

 

IIRC reds get 37mm AT gun in their +1 fighter....

And you can do it since map 1 with E7 

 

And axis has bigger ammo load out on any given plane compared to most if not all VVS. 

[[110]xJammer]

6 minutes ago, Cpt_Siddy said:

And you can do it since map 1 with E7 

 

And axis has bigger ammo load out on any given plane compared to most if not all VVS. 

 

 

and still reds do better job taking out tanks than blues... logic! ? 

 

The victim complex on some of the red pilots is getting fairly annoying at this point...

Edited November 22, 2020 by xJammer

[I./ZG1_HeTzeR]

Can you please add for the next campaign, that if someone is banned for 20h and he is still flying due to special rules, his death will reset his timer to 20h? Its been 2-3 deaths in a row now, from players who are banned and just fly with no care, ramming you on purpose and I feel this is not what TAW stands for.

 

 

[Cpt_Siddy]

5 minutes ago, xJammer said:

 

 

and still reds do better job taking out tanks than blues... logic! ? 

 

The victim complex on some of the red pilots is getting fairly annoying at this point...

 

Hey, i agree with your proposal to swap players for one TAW and see how it will go. 

[Giovanni_Giorgio]

17 hours ago, Xiaozhan said:

Victory is ahead of us! 

We appreciate your support on the forum, but we need some help in the air too.

[Cpt_Siddy]

22 minutes ago, III./ZG1_HeTzeR said:

Can you please add for the next campaign, that if someone is banned for 20h and he is still flying due to special rules, his death will reset his timer to 20h? Its been 2-3 deaths in a row now, from players who are banned and just fly with no care, ramming you on purpose and I feel this is not what TAW stands for.

 

 

 

pot, kettle. 

[FTC_Prancing]

Blues are too busy camping the spawn points then win maps, or flying at 8k for the stats

Average Red pilot > Average blue pilot

That's the only reason why Red side can still win/draw maps with this average numbers, still -2 players on average since a month

[LLv24_Zami]

3 minutes ago, ACG_Prancing said:

Blues are too busy camping the spawn points then win maps, or flying at 8k for the stats

Average Red pilot > Average blue pilot

That's the only reason why Red side can still win/draw maps with this average numbers, still -2 players on average since a month

Must be great to be so awesome. I can`t even imagine 

[Giovanni_Giorgio]

37 minutes ago, ACG_Prancing said:

Blues are too busy camping the spawn points then win maps, or flying at 8k for the stats

Average Red pilot > Average blue pilot

That's the only reason why Red side can still win/draw maps with this average numbers, still -2 players on average since a month

Not sure about averages, but we have many ground attackers on our team, while Axis only seems to have just a few. If they don't show up at a critical moment, the blue team seems to be in trouble.

Edited November 22, 2020 by mincer

[SakerVVS]

If I have .28 lives can I still fly?

[=FPS=Cutlass_RL]

3 hours ago, xJammer said:

 

 

Funniest thing in this thread... ?

 

in fact, the funniest thing about this topic is that the characters knocking out the BT-7 in 1943 for ground purposes of the red army, do not see the fact that their opponents have to knock out the T-IV Tiger

 

http://taw.stg2.de/pilot_sortie.php?id=72030&name=xJammer

 

http://taw.stg2.de/pilot_sortie.php?id=74020&name=KOSMATIX

 

............................................

2 hours ago, xJammer said:

 

 

and still reds do better job taking out tanks than blues... logic! ? 

 

The victim complex on some of the red pilots is getting fairly annoying at this point...

when those who fly from two or more accounts talk about the "victim complex"......it looks FUNNY ......

[LLv24_Zami]

12 minutes ago, =FPS=Cutlass said:

 

in fact, the funniest thing about this topic is that the characters knocking out the BT-7 in 1943 for ground purposes of the red army, do not see the fact that their opponents have to knock out the T-IV Tiger

 

So, you`re basically saying that red tank columns are made of Bt-7s and other light tanks and blue are made of Tigers.

 

What are the KVs and T-34s that I`ve seen? They must be undercover blue tanks.

[Cpt_Siddy]

16 minutes ago, LLv24_Zami said:

So, you`re basically saying that red tank columns are made of Bt-7s and other light tanks and blue are made of Tigers.

 

What are the KVs and T-34s that I`ve seen? They must be undercover blue tanks.

 

We dont see leichttraktors in blue columns....

[LLv24_Zami]

Just now, Cpt_Siddy said:

 

We dont see leichttraktors in blue columns....

What do you see? Do you know the ratio which is used to build tank columns, I mean light/medium/heavy? I`d like to hear it

[Giovanni_Giorgio]

4 minutes ago, LLv24_Zami said:

What do you see? Do you know the ratio which is used to build tank columns, I mean light/medium/heavy? I`d like to hear it

 

30% Stug, 30% PzIII, 30% PzIV, 10% PzVI. No light tanks, at least at the late maps. 

[LLv24_Zami]

4 minutes ago, mincer said:

 

30% Stug, 30% PzIII, 30% PzIV, 10% PzVI. No light tanks, at least at the late maps. 

Where did you get this? Devs?

 

Are the tank columns always built in the same way?

Edited November 22, 2020 by LLv24_Zami

[Giovanni_Giorgio]

6 minutes ago, LLv24_Zami said:

Where did you get this? Devs?

 

Are the tank columns always built in the same way?

I either attack them or cover my comrades who strafe them, almost each mission, often multiple times. The columns are almost the same, at least appear to be. During earlier maps there were a couple of Pz38 usually, but not now.

[LLv24_Zami]

Just now, mincer said:

I either attack them or cover my comrades who strafe them, almost each mission, often multiple times. The columns are almost the same, at least appear to be. During earlier maps there were a couple of Pz38 usually, but not now.

Okay, thanks.

 

Maybe the tank column formula has been mentioned sometimes but I don`t recall it. 

[=FPS=Cutlass_RL]

4 hours ago, LLv24_Zami said:

So, you`re basically saying that red tank columns are made of Bt-7s and other light tanks and blue are made of Tigers.

 

What are the KVs and T-34s that I`ve seen? They must be undercover blue tanks.

No. I say that in 43g in the red army tanks type BT-7 on the Eastern front was not. In relatively large quantities, they were only in the far East and later successfully used during the war with Japan. If we compare the "basic tanks", the BT-7 is destroyed by the course gun armament of ANY German fighter. And for example, the "lightest" T-III - only with LaGG-3-37mm or Yak-9T. In theory, tanks like BT-7 should be used at least once on the map of Stalingrad 1942. Then only the T-60 and T-70 as "light tanks".

Edited November 22, 2020 by =FPS=Cutlass

[Gustav_Hagel]

8 hours ago, Cpt_Siddy said:

 

Axis tanks are generally harder to kill, but the overall number is more or less the same. 

 

Your logic is flawed, VSS clearly has advantages regarding ground attack, especially with IL-2's 23mm cannon + rockets + bombs. 20mm german cannons are pretty much useless to destroy light tanks since damage is still low and ammo is mostly HE. It takes several passes to destroy tanks with E7's and other 109s, I suspect even the VSS 20mm is way better to destroy tanks than Axis one.

[Cpt_Siddy]

Ill swap il2 to magical 110 in a hearth beat.

[Gustav_Hagel]

1 hour ago, =FPS=Cutlass said:

 If we compare the "basic tanks", the BT-7 is destroyed by the course gun armament of ANY German fighter.

https://taw.stg2.de/pilot_sortie.php?id=45779&name=SCG_Gustav_Hagel

 

 

Unless you hit in the turret, preferably at its side, you can't do much damage with 20mm. In this case 1 shot landed and it did 3% damage as you can see. I was flying with FeuerFliegen and he was hitting it as well, he landed better shots and did slight better damage: https://taw.stg2.de/pilot_sortie.php?id=45776&name=SCG_FeuerFliegen

 

 

Still nothing astounding.

 

Edited November 22, 2020 by SCG_Gustav_Hagel

[Cpt_Siddy]

Good job, reds! 

[[110]xJammer]

On 11/22/2020 at 3:08 PM, =FPS=Cutlass said:

 

when those who fly from two or more accounts talk about the "victim complex"......it looks FUNNY ......

 

 

Maybe you should ask one of these guys to share a spare account with you  

Edited November 23, 2020 by xJammer

[Chivas_Regal]

20 minutes ago, xJammer said:

 

 

Maybe you should ask one of these guys to share a spare account with you  

And RetentionVenerat too ?

[[110]xJammer]

35 minutes ago, =2ndSS=Lawyer1 said:

And RetentionVenerat too ?

 

 

No, my double account is going to be Kosmatix28 just to sow more confusion into the matter.

[FTC_Prancing]

This guy literally thinks to be super sneaky smart, like when he keeps talking in both teams chat the whole start of the mission thinking that nobody is as smart as him to understand why he does that, embarrassing for real..

[=FPS=Cutlass_RL]

1 hour ago, [110]xJammer said:

 

 

Maybe you should ask one of these guys to share a spare account with you  

 

why....if the game "multiaccount" can be fun to play together....?

[=AD=AlmanAndorrano]

pilots find out the attitude in the sky TAW 

have already found out that the second accounts for wives

 

this war is very interesting and intense for both sides!!!

 

[JG4_Karl_Gratz]

I am missing the blue whining about balancing!

.... as reds did...

[Cpt_Siddy]

24 minutes ago, JG4_Karl_Gratz said:

I am missing the blue whining about balancing!

.... as reds did...

you just did, the passive aggressive way