Tactical Air War

[Cathaoir]

Are nav lights allowed on the U2 when doing supply runs?

[FTC_DerSheriff]

5 minutes ago, Cathaoir said:

Are nav lights allowed on the U2 when doing supply runs?

Why do you want to have those even?

You can do what ever you want with the U2.

[Cathaoir]

I was asking just about supply runs not a normal combat run....it's a mod to the plane so I asked.  And I do know I do not need them....

Edited October 18, 2020 by Cathaoir

[=IRFC=SmokinHole]

I have learned that to enjoy this server as it was intended, I really just need behave as I would in my profession: Fly safely from one friendly field to another and treat the front line is if it is radioactive.  I am ok with that.  I like going from one place to another in relative safety.  And the I-16 is a wonderful toy for fast travel and light aerobatics.  But it is not for tangling with coordinated 109s.  Nor is the MiG.  Not complaining.  I love the server now that I know how to exist within it. The key is not to risk one's hide and to enjoy the show from a distance.  Thanks for making it happen!

Edited October 18, 2020 by SmokinHole
repetitive

[messsucher]

Haha, that plane limit is a great thing, make you value your virtual life a bit more, especially if you want to get better aircraft after the first map. But yeah, team flight is of course the way to go against the enemy wings.

 

This server is my favorite past time and I watch TAW map every day several times how the war is going.

[KoN_]

2 hours ago, SmokinHole said:

I have learned that to enjoy this server as it was intended, I really just need behave as I would in my profession: Fly safely from one friendly field to another and treat the front line is if it is radioactive.  I am ok with that.  I like going from one place to another in relative safety.  And the I-16 is a wonderful toy for fast travel and light aerobatics.  But it is not for tangling with coordinated 109s.  Nor is the MiG.  Not complaining.  I love the server now that I know how to exist within it. The key is not to risk one's hide and to enjoy the show from a distance.  Thanks for making it happen!

Lol 

So true . 

 

[Giovanni_Giorgio]

MiG is fine, especially if you have buddies.

[Giovanni_Giorgio]

Meanwhile on TAW
 

 

[FTC_DerSheriff]

@Inkompetentposted it already on the  discord, but I just post it here for the record:

The Bf 109 F-2 cant equip the centerline 20mm MG 151.

This is either a bug on the server (mod wrongfully locked) or is not documented in the planeset, where the 20mm is not marked as excluded.
I would like to see this fixed either way. Preferably enabling the 20mm because the 15mm is only nice for tickling IL2s and Pe2. They laugh quite considerably when i attack them.

They laugh so hard that they sometimes hit trees in the egress. 

[todeskvlt]

10 minutes ago, DerSheriff said:

@Inkompetentposted it already on the  discord, but I just post it here for the record:

The Bf 109 F-2 cant equip the centerline 20mm MG 151.

This is either a bug on the server (mod wrongfully locked) or is not documented in the planeset, where the 20mm is not marked as excluded.
I would like to see this fixed either way. Preferably enabling the 20mm because the 15mm is only nice for tickling IL2s and Pe2. They laugh quite considerably when i attack them.

They laugh so hard that they sometimes hit trees in the egress. 

 

20mm in F2 are disabled. Kathon will update planeset soon.

Edited October 19, 2020 by =LG=todeskvlt

[I./ZG1_Badger1-1]

 

6 minutes ago, =LG=todeskvlt said:

 

20mm in F2 are disabled. Kathon will update planeset soon.

 What about Sc1000 in Ju88? It only states SC1800 is forbidden

[Norz]

15 minutes ago, =LG=todeskvlt said:

 

20mm in F2 are disabled. Kathon will update planeset soon.

 

 

Was it from the beginning of the map No2?

[todeskvlt]

Just now, Norz said:

Was it from the beginning of the map No2?

 

Yes

[KG200_Achilleus]

1 hour ago, =LG=todeskvlt said:

 

20mm in F2 are disabled. Kathon will update planeset soon.

I really cant see any reason for this..

Emil has 2 x 20mm cannons,

the F2 is a killer with only one 20mm?

the Mig doesn't  have 2 x 20mm cannons?

With this point of view you had to remove FWs from future maps becuase they have much more fire power than yaks and migs..

Edited October 19, 2020 by KG200_Achilleus

[todeskvlt]

10 minutes ago, KG200_Achilleus said:

I really cant see any reason for this..

Emil has 2 x 20mm cannons,

the F2 is a killer with only one 20mm?

the Mig doesn't  have 2 x 20mm cannons?

With this point of view you had to remove FWs from future maps becuase they have much more fire power than yaks and migs..

 

Because blue side have to cry on forum too

 

Is not up to me.

[Rafcio]

According to wikipedia, MG 151/15 was replaced by MG 151/20 at the end of 1941. So in the autumn, the Bf-109 F2 has 15mm. And that's all.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/MG_151

[KG200_Achilleus]

58 minutes ago, =LG=todeskvlt said:

 

Because blue side have to cry on forum too

46 minutes ago, =L/R=Rafcio said:

According to wikipedia, MG 151/15 was replaced by MG 151/20 at the end of 1941. So in the autumn, the Bf-109 F2 has 15mm. And that's all.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/MG_151

So all other planeset is 100% historically accurate, and for 2 months F2s nose cannon is not?According to wikipedia also, migs,yaks,laggs,and la5s had only 650-680 klm dive speeds and not 750-780..

i guess this is made for “cry” reasons also isn't it?

[Rafcio]

 Planeset will never be 100% historic, but the 15mm in F2 is at least a good test to be.

[SCG_Faerber]

15mm F2 is sometimes a pain, but I'm all for it if it fits the historical/realism vision for the server. Tbh one thing i miss on the plane set is the Yak-9 and the Yak-9T

[KG200_Achilleus]

1 minute ago, SCG_Faerber said:

it fits the historical/realism vision for the server

 

Historical/realism somehow cant always  fit 100% when leaderboards between players and teams are there, this is a game anyway.

Generally speaking, nothing to do with F2s nose cannon.

[SCG_Faerber]

7 minutes ago, KG200_Achilleus said:

 

Historical/realism somehow cant always  fit 100% when leaderboards between players and teams are there, this is a game anyway.

Generally speaking, nothing to do with F2s nose cannon.

True, but it fits the vision of the server right? Personally would be nice to have the leaderboards just show at the end of every campaign, players having to keep tally themselves if they want to know, but thats just me

 

[I./ZG1_Badger1-1]

7 hours ago, =L/R=Rafcio said:

According to wikipedia, MG 151/15 was replaced by MG 151/20 at the end of 1941. So in the autumn, the Bf-109 F2 has 15mm. And that's all.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/MG_151

 

But its December now ?

[UFA_Bagel]

21 hours ago, KG200_Achilleus said:

 

Historical/realism somehow cant always  fit 100% when leaderboards between players and teams are there, this is a game anyway.

Generally speaking, nothing to do with F2s nose cannon.

I don't mind having all kinds of servers but I think we have more than enough "esport" servers. Please, leave pure simmers like me a single server which is somehow historically correct.)) It's still not what we need but the only such server we have.

Edited October 20, 2020 by elegz

[KoN_]

10 hours ago, SCG_Faerber said:

True, but it fits the vision of the server right? Personally would be nice to have the leaderboards just show at the end of every campaign, players having to keep tally themselves if they want to know, but thats just me

 

This might actually make some people engage targets in stead of doing circles . 

 

[Cpt_Siddy]

You know that feeling, when you are flying after sunset in VR, escorting 8 Peshkas to clear out resupply depo at the end of the mission timer in double layer clouds?  

 

I do. 

[KoN_]

6 minutes ago, Cpt_Siddy said:

You know that feeling, when you are flying after sunset in VR, escorting 8 Peshkas to clear out resupply depo at the end of the mission timer in double layer clouds?  

 

I do. 

Yes its a great sight to see when it all works out right and you make it back home  . 

 

Edited October 19, 2020 by KoN_

[Giovanni_Giorgio]

We need a leader scoreboard for destroying partisan groups.

[KG200_Achilleus]

20 hours ago, =L/R=Rafcio said:

According to wikipedia, MG 151/15 was replaced by MG 151/20 at the end of 1941. So in the autumn, the Bf-109 F2 has 15mm. And that's all.

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/MG_151

Finally we have December now..

nose cannon replaced?:)

[Rafcio]

.  

1 hour ago, KG200_Achilleus said:

Finally we have December now..

nose cannon replaced?:)

 

Autumn runs from September 22 to December 21. January is MAP No. 3 and the F2 will be 20 mm there. And it will be F4. The fact that the production of the MG 151/20 started in autumn does not mean that all F2s in combat units near Moscow got them right away. They were replaced as part of repairs or periodic inspections. The battle was on. You flew on what you had.

[KoN_]

Doing lone attack runs on this server is a one way ticket . With the AAA being so deadly . ? jeeeee .

I Guess this is to stop lone attacks and fly as a team effort .. But that seems not to be the case when low numbers are in place . ? Red side . 

 

Edited October 20, 2020 by KoN_

[SV7_Vase]

21 minutes ago, KoN_ said:

Doing lone attack runs on this server is a one way ticket . With the AAA being so deadly . ? jeeeee .

I Guess this is to stop lone attacks and fly as a team effort .. But that seems to to be the case when low numbers are in place . ? Red side . 

 

Im sure -=RedS=-Str1ke and other guys from "Sober Sky" are willing to take you with them. They are flying nearly every evening, big raids to blue airfields.

Edited October 20, 2020 by SV7_Vase

[KG200_Achilleus]

1 hour ago, =L/R=Rafcio said:

.  

 

Autumn runs from September 22 to December 21. January is MAP No. 3 and the F2 will be 20 mm there. And it will be F4. The fact that the production of the MG 151/20 started in autumn does not mean that all F2s in combat units near Moscow got them right away. They were replaced as part of repairs or periodic inspections. The battle was on. You flew on what you had.

I guess you are not the one who’ll tell for sure if most of F2s had this replacement on December or not.

You could say that on map2 the 20mm cannon on F2 is forbidden, as it had to be shown in planset table( which it is not) and thats all.

The inquiry anyway was why the cannon is forbidden, and not if we want to fly with what we have or not.

thats all,

S!

[KoN_]

7 hours ago, SV7_Vase said:

Im sure -=RedS=-Str1ke and other guys from "Sober Sky" are willing to take you with them. They are flying nearly every evening, big raids to blue airfields.

I've escorted many il-2 and Pe2s on raids but im talking when flying alone .

As some don`t want to join you on your raid and wish to fly high . 

`some times its only 8 people on the server  . 

 

 

 

Edited October 20, 2020 by KoN_

[SCG_Fenris_Wolf]

TAW is meant to be enjoyed (and suffered through) as a group. Its skill requirements is way too high for endured, lasting and successful solo play.

 

If you got fighter escort however and want to attack positions, here is a nice attack pattern that always cheats the Flak: Inverted Dive Bombing attack. Only works with the old Junkers 87, so you'll really need some fighter escort. A very nice video by The Air Combat Tutorial Library !

 

 

P.S. Best to play with graphical presets on Ultra, or you may encounter visual issues with ground objects at range from time to time.

Edited October 20, 2020 by SCG_Fenris_Wolf

[messsucher]

Heck Stuka dive bombing is awesome. But I want to challenge that deadly AI by doing some Jabo missions.

[=IRFC=SmokinHole]

1 hour ago, SCG_Fenris_Wolf said:

TAW is meant to be enjoyed (and suffered through) as a group. Its skill requirements is way too high for endured, lasting and successful solo play.

 

So true. 

 

Edited October 20, 2020 by SmokinHole

[KoN_]

13 hours ago, SCG_Fenris_Wolf said:

TAW is meant to be enjoyed (and suffered through) as a group. Its skill requirements is way too high for endured, lasting and successful solo play.

 

If you got fighter escort however and want to attack positions, here is a nice attack pattern that always cheats the Flak: Inverted Dive Bombing attack. Only works with the old Junkers 87, so you'll really need some fighter escort. A very nice video by The Air Combat Tutorial Library !

 

 

P.S. Best to play with graphical presets on Ultra, or you may encounter visual issues with ground objects at range from time to time.

Yes i have now realised this is group server . Safety in numbers .

I seen that video of stuka quite some time ago . Guess my the il-2 will have to dive bomb like stuka if flying alone . 

Back to Transports . !

[Giovanni_Giorgio]

Is it possible to add U-2 to front-line airfields as a light attacker?

14 hours ago, messsucher said:

Heck Stuka dive bombing is awesome. But I want to challenge that deadly AI by doing some Jabo missions.

[Real_NBD]

Why does one side have more tanks and planes this map? I thought this was supposed to be a draw...?

[Chivas_Regal]

26 minutes ago, SCG_NoBigDreams said:

Why does one side have more tanks and planes this map? I thought this was supposed to be a draw...?

Look at 3.11 of Manual 

Edited October 21, 2020 by =2ndSS=Lawyer1