Early Normandy 1940 Map Mod v03

[kraut1]

17.09.2025: only layout of main post changed

Early Normandy 1940 Map Mod

-To modify the Early Normandy /D-Day map at least a little bit to 1940, I deleted all surfaces of the 1941-1944 constructed UK airfields and I removed them additionally from the "GUI" Map mapstiles.

-Smaller Manston grass airfield

-all RAF airfields now grass airfields

new v3: -Ford airfield now grass airfield too

The Modification is JSGME compatible

Download:

https://www.mediafire.com/file/n3ueius7szna0rc/Early+Normandy+1940+Map+Mod+v03.zip/file

 

 

+additional Battle of Britain content:

-for Demo Test my small "Battle of Britain Mod" Work in Progress (contains the map mod)

updated with spitfire MKIIa skin by Off_Winters:

https://www.mediafire.com/file/a9hlhuutyu4to01/1940+Battle+of+Britain+Mod+early+vB.zip/file

 

-Battle of Britain Easy Mission Generator Work in Progress to be used together with Battle of Britain Mod

https://www.mediafire.com/file/wdohjgaicw5ncn3/EasyMissionGenerator-BoB-VB.zip/file

 

Demo Missions to be used with the "Battle of Britain Mod" 

 1940-07-04-BoB-Tangmere-Hurricane-Mission

1940-07-04-BoB-Tangmere-Hurricane-Mission.zip

new Spitfire MKIIa Mission:

1940-08-13a-Adlertag-SpitfireMKIIa-Scramble.zip

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited yesterday at 12:58 PM by kraut1

[kraut1]

Concerning the too big old airfields:

-In the next revision I have exchanged Manston with the huge concrete runway by a smaller french grass airfield that fits in the area north of the road (but it is possible to restore the original MAnston).

-And I found a way to eliminate the concrete runways for e.g.: Tangmere, but I don't change the overall layout for compatibility with existing missions.

Edited September 11 by kraut1

[kraut1]

for next release:

RAF Tangmere with grass runway

@Sandmarken

[Sandmarken]

58 minutes ago, kraut1 said:

for next release:

RAF Tangmere with grass runway

@Sandmarken

That looks very cool! Now i just wish for a spitfire mk1 or 2

[sammydee]

Fabulous. Thanks for this

[kraut1]

9 hours ago, Sandmarken said:

That looks very cool! Now i just wish for a spitfire mk1 or 2

Yes, would be very importent.

In my BoB EMG (will be released in 1 or 2 months) mod I use by default a ammo mod that reduces the 20mm he shells to the 13mm MG131 ammo to simulate the 8x MG armament (in first line for AI usage)and to simulate the early 20mm versions I have already created a weapon mod that creates the frequent stoppages of the early versions.

[Sandmarken]

52 minutes ago, kraut1 said:

Yes, would be very importent.

In my BoB EMG (will be released in 1 or 2 months) mod I use by default a ammo mod that reduces the 20mm he shells to the 13mm MG131 ammo to simulate the 8x MG armament (in first line for AI usage)and to simulate the early 20mm versions I have already created a weapon mod that creates the frequent stoppages of the early versions.

A good start! 😄

[kraut1]

Thorney Island grass Airfield (will be released soon):

Edited September 12 by kraut1

[kraut1]

New v2 released:

Early Normandy 1940 Map Mod V2

-Smaller Manston grass airfield

-all RAF airfields now grass airfields

+additionally

-for Demo Test my small "Battle of Britain Mod" Work in Progress (contains the map mod)

-Battle of Britain Easy Mission Generator Work in Progress to be used together with Battle of Britain Mod

-1940-07-04-BoB-Channel-Battle-Tangmere-Hurricane-Scramble-Mission

 

Added later:

Ford grass airfield will be included in next revision

 

Edited Saturday at 10:52 AM by kraut1

[kraut1]

V2A Exchanged 1940-07-04-BoB-Tangmere-Hurricane-Mission

Same mission with shorter mission file name to avoid issues with Track / Video generation (new for me)

[Off_Winters]

Hi Kraut,

This is really cool, as an avid BoB period fan I'll be following closely. I'd be happy to help with a work-around for a MkIIA Spitfire if you like. with your weapons mod that you described above it would be half passable. It's just an Alpha channel edit to remove the cannon and painted in the extra gun port details to give appearance of 8 guns.

I'd be happy to do up a few skins in the colours of the main Spitfire squadrons for the period.

regards Rob.

[kraut1]

13 minutes ago, Off_Winters said:

Hi Kraut,

This is really cool, as an avid BoB period fan I'll be following closely. I'd be happy to help with a work-around for a MkIIA Spitfire if you like. with your weapons mod that you described above it would be half passable. It's just an Alpha channel edit to remove the cannon and painted in the extra gun port details to give appearance of 8 guns.

I'd be happy to do up a few skins in the colours of the main Spitfire squadrons for the period.

regards Rob.

Hi Off_Winters,

A Spitfire skin without the cannons! This is absolutely great! Thanks very much!🙂

I will add the skins definately.

And please one "blank" or "generic" skin without tactical numbers.

[Off_Winters]

11 minutes ago, kraut1 said:

Hi Off_Winters,

A Spitfire skin without the cannons! This is absolutely great! Thanks very much!🙂

I will add the skins definately.

And please one "blank" or "generic" skin without tactical numbers.

No Worries Kraut1,

I'll get them over to you soon.

regards Rob.

[kraut1]

30 minutes ago, Off_Winters said:

No Worries Kraut1,

I'll get them over to you soon.

regards Rob.

Thanks very much!

In the next revision of the Battle of Britain Mod there will be an additional modification of the ai spitfires:

They will open fire for normal, high and ace on shorter distance 300m instead of 500/800m to avoid wasting the 60 rounds 13mm ammo.

I have done the same with the BF109-E7(3/4): it works.

caeroplane_spitfire_mk_vb.zip

Edited Saturday at 01:49 PM by kraut1

[BladeMeister]

Your picture link is broken? It seems 250m or even 200m would be more realistic in terms of the tactics used during the actual BOB. Maybe the game or AI won't handle this? Still this looks like fun even though the engine won't handle any assets numbers that come even remotely close to those that actually appeared during the real BOB. Make due with what you have and have fun! I may have to try this out.

 

S!Blade<><

[kraut1]

27 minutes ago, BladeMeister said:

Your picture link is broken? It seems 250m or even 200m would be more realistic in terms of the tactics used during the actual BOB. Maybe the game or AI won't handle this? Still this looks like fun even though the engine won't handle any assets numbers that come even remotely close to those that actually appeared during the real BOB. Make due with what you have and have fun! I may have to try this out.

 

S!Blade<><

Yes, in reality 300m is still far away if you have only 60 rounds per gun.

I as a human pilot choose for the E7(E3,E4) always 200m (was historical for horizontal convergation, vertical was 400m.

I have just tested a 8xBF109-E7 vs 8xSpitfire Vb modded quick mission with the 300m and the Spitfires performed already well.

For today I have to do some other real life tasks...

If you want to try here a 250m max. fire dist. with all ai levels:    MaxFireDistance   = 250.0

folder in the mod:

\1940 Battle of Britain Mod early vA\data\luascripts\ai

caeroplane_spitfire_mk_vb-250m-max-fire-distance-for-all-AI.zipcaeroplane_spitfire_mk_vb-300m-max-fire-distance-for-all-AI.zip

Edited Saturday at 02:05 PM by kraut1

[kraut1]

Today a very importent intermediate Version:

Map Mod new v3:

-Ford airfield now grass airfield too

 

+additionally

UPDATED WITH SPITFIRE MKIIa SKIN by @Off_Winters

-for Demo Test my small "Battle of Britain Mod" Work in Progress (contains the map mod)

UPDATED WITH SPITFIRE MKIIa SKIN by Off_Winters:

-Battle of Britain Easy Mission Generator Work in Progress to be used together with Battle of Britain Mod

+ new Spitfire MKIIa Demo Mission

The MKIIa skin looks really great.

-in Mod now MKIIa skin as the Spitfire MKVB default skin, and plane changed in swf info file to default country 102(Great Britain)

-in EMG considered too with working automatic tactical british codes

@Sandmarken

[Sandmarken]

Wait? How did you get rid of the cannons?? 😄

[kraut1]

5 minutes ago, Sandmarken said:

Wait? How did you get rid of the cannons?? 😄

Off_Winters did a great job!

...He used the Alpha Channel to hide them...

[Stonehouse]

It's a good trick, I used similar on the radar on the ships we're bringing in soon. Pretty much that's the only thing available since we don't have the ability to bring in new 3d models (or skills in my case). Very nice MkIIa!

 

Wonder if it is possible to do something with the cannon ammo bumps if you had the skills. That is really the only telltale but even then, it isn't that obvious for the most part.

[kraut1]

3 hours ago, Stonehouse said:

It's a good trick, I used similar on the radar on the ships we're bringing in soon. Pretty much that's the only thing available since we don't have the ability to bring in new 3d models (or skills in my case). Very nice MkIIa!

 

Wonder if it is possible to do something with the cannon ammo bumps if you had the skills. That is really the only telltale but even then, it isn't that obvious for the most part.

Thanks, but the skin is not by me.

Off_Winters has created it.

I have modified the the map, only with 1940 RAF grass airfields.

Yes, concerning the hidden Radar I have just looked in one of your Warship test folders and I found the black radar .dds files. Great idea!

 

[Off_Winters]

12 hours ago, Stonehouse said:

It's a good trick, I used similar on the radar on the ships we're bringing in soon. Pretty much that's the only thing available since we don't have the ability to bring in new 3d models (or skills in my case). Very nice MkIIa!

 

Wonder if it is possible to do something with the cannon ammo bumps if you had the skills. That is really the only telltale but even then, it isn't that obvious for the most part.

Hi Scott,

the canon blisters unfortunately they cant be altered with the alpha channel. it leaves holes in the wing

regards Rob.

[kraut1]

 

1 hour ago, Off_Winters said:

Hi Scott,

the canon blisters unfortunately they cant be altered with the alpha channel. it leaves holes in the wing

regards Rob.

[Stonehouse]

8 hours ago, Off_Winters said:

Hi Scott,

the canon blisters unfortunately they cant be altered with the alpha channel. it leaves holes in the wing

regards Rob.

 

Yeah I kind of figured the raised section was part of the 3d model and not just some sort of fancy texturing but wasn't sure. Not to worry it still does the job for the most part and you wouldn't notice them unless you look closely.

Edited Monday at 10:44 PM by Stonehouse

[Stonehouse]

@kraut1 Just informational - Ford apparently received tarmac runways in 1941 unfortunately I am not sure exactly when in 1941, but I am guessing fairly early based on the type of aircraft the RAF flew out of there in 1941. It was a RN training airfield up until Aug 18, 1940 with the usual Royal Navy aircraft like Swordfish operating out of it. It was attacked on Aug 18 and heavily damaged. Since it was obviously too dangerous for use as a training field it was given over to the RAF to use as an 11 Group airfield from Sept 30, 1940.  Mostly night fighters and intruders operated out of there so Blenheim night fighters and Douglas Havoc 1's and Boston's and eventually Mosquito's although I believe day fighters used it as a forward field/ diversion field type thing. RAF 23 SQD was based there I believe if you want examples of aircraft types.

 

Reference for tarmac runways:

 

"During the war the station was developed by the Air Ministry; during 1941 with the construction of two tarmac runways of 6,000 ft SW/NE and 4,800 ft NW/SE, together with extensive new taxi-tracks to the west of the original airfield. Blast pens were built, as were a number of Blister hangars dispersed around the perimeter track to supplement the Bellmans and the one GS hangar refurbished after the Stuka attack."

 

https://www.royalnavyresearcharchive.org.uk/FAA-Bases/Ford.htm

Edited Tuesday at 12:53 AM by Stonehouse

[kraut1]

4 hours ago, Stonehouse said:

@kraut1 Just informational - Ford apparently received tarmac runways in 1941 unfortunately I am not sure exactly when in 1941, but I am guessing fairly early based on the type of aircraft the RAF flew out of there in 1941. It was a RN training airfield up until Aug 18, 1940 with the usual Royal Navy aircraft like Swordfish operating out of it. It was attacked on Aug 18 and heavily damaged. Since it was obviously too dangerous for use as a training field it was given over to the RAF to use as an 11 Group airfield from Sept 30, 1940.  Mostly night fighters and intruders operated out of there so Blenheim night fighters and Douglas Havoc 1's and Boston's and eventually Mosquito's although I believe day fighters used it as a forward field/ diversion field type thing. RAF 23 SQD was based there I believe if you want examples of aircraft types.

 

Reference for tarmac runways:

 

"During the war the station was developed by the Air Ministry; during 1941 with the construction of two tarmac runways of 6,000 ft SW/NE and 4,800 ft NW/SE, together with extensive new taxi-tracks to the west of the original airfield. Blast pens were built, as were a number of Blister hangars dispersed around the perimeter track to supplement the Bellmans and the one GS hangar refurbished after the Stuka attack."

 

https://www.royalnavyresearcharchive.org.uk/FAA-Bases/Ford.htm

Hi @Stonehouse,

Thanks very much for the information. This means for 1940 Battle of Britain it is correct to have it as a grass airfield, although it was not a RAF Fighter Command Airfield.

But it could be used for mission building as a target for the attack of the 18th August 1940.

And night fighter / intruder enthusiasts could use it with with the A20 (but with only 2x.50 MG armament).

 

 

 

[Stonehouse]

1 hour ago, kraut1 said:

Hi @Stonehouse,

Thanks very much for the information. This means for 1940 Battle of Britain it is correct to have it as a grass airfield, although it was not a RAF Fighter Command Airfield.

But it could be used for mission building as a target for the attack of the 18th August 1940.

And night fighter / intruder enthusiasts could use it with with the A20 (but with only 2x.50 MG armament).

 

 

 

May be of use although I haven't cross checked the info for accuracy and you may already have it. Wikipedia has a convenient list of BoB fields by group as well as listing squadrons that were attached at times. 

 

List of Battle of Britain airfields - Wikipedia

 

eg for Ford showing list of units

HM Prison Ford - Wikipedia (it seems it became a prison later on and is how it used now)

 

A place where you may be able to cross check basing time periods for a squadron is here:

No. 23 Squadron (RAF) during the Second World War shows 23 was at Ford from Sept 12, 1940 to Aug 6, 1942 and they flew Havoc's and then Boston III's from Feb-Aug 1942 and that their squadron code was YP and they were tasked with night fighter/intruder duties.

 

Eg to get info for another unit RAAF 456 Sqd was based at Ford for a time according to Wikipedia. So, to get its page I usually overtype the service and the squadron number in the url as I find this easier than this webpages search function. You may using the search function easier, it's personal taste.

eg https://www.historyofwar.org/air/units/RAF/23_wwII.html becomes https://www.historyofwar.org/air/units/RAAF/456_wwII.html and so you can see that 456 was at Ford in 1944 so isn't relevant to your scenario.

Edited Tuesday at 06:21 AM by Stonehouse

[kraut1]

1 hour ago, Stonehouse said:

May be of use although I haven't cross checked the info for accuracy and you may already have it. Wikipedia has a convenient list of BoB fields by group as well as listing squadrons that were attached at times. 

 

List of Battle of Britain airfields - Wikipedia

 

eg for Ford showing list of units

HM Prison Ford - Wikipedia (it seems it became a prison later on and is how it used now)

 

A place where you may be able to cross check basing time periods for a squadron is here:

No. 23 Squadron (RAF) during the Second World War shows 23 was at Ford from Sept 12, 1940 to Aug 6, 1942 and they flew Havoc's and then Boston III's from Feb-Aug 1942 and that their squadron code was YP and they were tasked with night fighter/intruder duties.

 

Eg to get info for another unit RAAF 456 Sqd was based at Ford for a time according to Wikipedia. So, to get its page I usually overtype the service and the squadron number in the url as I find this easier than this webpages search function. You may using the search function easier, it's personal taste.

eg https://www.historyofwar.org/air/units/RAF/23_wwII.html becomes https://www.historyofwar.org/air/units/RAAF/456_wwII.html and so you can see that 456 was at Ford in 1944 so isn't relevant to your scenario.

Just informal:

I am flying currently already JG51 early BoB "Channel Battle" Missions / 8 completed.

I will publish these missions as Part02 Battle of Britain "Channel Battle / Kanalkampf" of my current Luftwaffe 1940/45 pilot career.

 

[Vishnu]

There's ALOT of info on the first post.   Would it be possible to dumb it down a little for us old folks?   I don't what to mess up my game.   I know how to JSME.   Any chance this could be made into one JSME file?

 

Thanks in advance  for this mod!

 

[kraut1]

6 hours ago, Vishnu said:

There's ALOT of info on the first post.   Would it be possible to dumb it down a little for us old folks?   I don't what to mess up my game.   I know how to JSME.   Any chance this could be made into one JSME file?

 

Thanks in advance  for this mod!

 

Hi Vishnu,

Sorry, I created this "Early Normandy 1940 Map Mod" spontaneous while I was already creating / flying Battle of Britain campaign missions.

And after I had published it the "revolutionary" Spitfire skin without cannons by Off_Winters appeared, which will have a great impact on future BoB missions.

So there was a huge, maybe a bit hectic momentum in this thread.

 

I have overworked the main post, I hope that it is now easier to understand.

 

Early Normandy 1940 Map Mod

this is a pure map mod, already JSGME compatible.

-All mid / late war british airfields deleted.

-All 1940 existing british airfields changed to grass runways, but with the same layout

(I mean, that you can still use the static objects from the original IL-2 Normandy template)

-Only Manston airfield (due to the huge late war runway for emergency landings) replaced by a copied smaller airfield)

 

+additional content for quick BoB mission generation:

-my small Battle of Britain Mod (Work in Progress), that contains already the Early Normandy 1940 map mod, JSGME compatible too

-my current Battle of Britain version of Easy Mission Generator by Vander (Work in Progress)

-2 demo missions

[Deacon352nd]

Can you please put a link to all the BOB missions you created. I’ve looked but can’t seem to find it. Thank you in advance. 

[kraut1]

12 minutes ago, Deacon352nd said:

Can you please put a link to all the BOB missions you created. I’ve looked but can’t seem to find it. Thank you in advance. 

Currently I have uploaded only these 2 Demo Missions (to be flown with the BoB mod):

1940-08-13a-Adlertag-SpitfireMKIIa-Scramble.zip

1940-07-04-BoB-Tangmere-Hurricane-Mission.zip

Next week I will publish the next part of my Luftwaffe career 1940-45 / campaign

https://forum.il2sturmovik.com/topic/92369-luftwaffe-ww2-career-1940-45-part01-battle-of-france/

The first part BoF is already released (together with a small BoF mod)

The next part II will be at least early BoB "Kanalkampf" (9 missions already flown), maybe it bit more...

Edited yesterday at 01:10 PM by kraut1