1CGS LukeFF Posted July 26, 2024 1CGS Posted July 26, 2024 Dev Blog #5 for Korea. IL-2 Series is now available for your reading: https://il2-korea.com/news/dd_5 16 2 2
Jade_Monkey Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 (edited) Is the DD link working for anyone else? nvm, browser cache issue Very nice shots of the P80C, love the skins and the lights on the last pic look much improved!! looking forward to more pics with ordinance on the plane Edited July 26, 2024 by Jade_Monkey 1
Rjel Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 The F-80C is one of my top three Korean War jets. Looks great.
J2_Trupobaw Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 So, with all the engine improvements, will it be possible to land on a moving train? Asking for a friend @Monostripezebra . 1 3
deathmisser Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 That low pressure clouds meeting the high ones omg I'm atcually scared to see what the thunder storms will look like. Now that is just beautiful such vibrant colours.
Avimimus Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 17 minutes ago, J2_Trupobaw said: So, with all the engine improvements, will it be possible to land on a moving train? Asking for a friend @Monostripezebra . I'm going to have to really want this to be true because, now with working tunnels, it'd be possible to land on a train and then have it be scrapped off in a tunnel! P.S. Anyone remember those early Il-2 tracks which used comic camera zooms to make humorous videos of an airplane parked on the railway tracks being hit by trains coming from multiple directions ...or an Me-323 being torpedo bombed by an Il-2? Wile E. Coyote stuff. 1
deathmisser Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Avimimus said: P.S. Anyone remember those early Il-2 tracks which used comic camera zooms to make humorous videos of an airplane parked on the railway tracks being hit by trains coming from multiple directions ...or an Me-323 being torpedo bombed by an Il-2? Wile E. Coyote stuff. Speaking off this marks almost 20 years since the last P-80 was in a Il-2 game right ? And I really want to see the damage model since they showed if this image. Since it would make some interesting crashed and fails lol ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- @LukeFF So if the damage model meant to be something unworldly and unheard of in sims, if I hit the ammo of the machine guns will that cause them to explode and jam the guns ? Edited July 26, 2024 by deathmisser
Avimimus Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 32 minutes ago, deathmisser said: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- @LukeFF So if the damage model meant to be something unworldly and unheard of in sims, if I hit the ammo of the machine guns will that cause them to explode and jam the guns ? More likely to break the links and cause one of the guns to stop working, right? There isn't that much powder in a 50 cal round. 1
deathmisser Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 2 minutes ago, Avimimus said: More likely to break the links and cause one of the guns to stop working, right? There isn't that much powder in a 50 cal round. I see ether way it seems like you gonna have to be extra careful in dogfights now and head on's or rear gunners. The IL-10 gonna be a pain to kill I can feel it.
Avimimus Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 14 minutes ago, deathmisser said: I see ether way it seems like you gonna have to be extra careful in dogfights now and head on's or rear gunners. The IL-10 gonna be a pain to kill I can feel it. Yes, and even though the M3 will have a higher rate of fire - closing speeds will be higher too... so the Il-10 might be hard to hit. They actually put an improved version back into production in 1951 (and they had access to knowledge from Korea when they made that decision!), albeit this late production version was only a small portion of the huge number Il-10 which were in service in Europe. One can only imagine what attacking an Il-28 would be like - with the low closing speeds and facing a turret with two 23mm cannons! China was receiving them during Korea, but they were never deployed... so it is unlikely we'll get it (even as AI or as a Collector Plane)... but it would be an interesting experience! 1
deathmisser Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 3 minutes ago, Avimimus said: One can only imagine what attacking an Il-28 would be like Well try a B-29 we are getting. : O 1
Avimimus Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 Just now, deathmisser said: Well try a B-29 we are getting. : O Yes, but the closing speeds are much higher (given the gunner less seconds to fire), the target is larger, and the weight of fire coming back from the bomber is much less... B-29 vs. Mig-15Bis is very different from Il-28 vs. F-86E 😄 1 hour ago, Rjel said: The F-80C is one of my top three Korean War jets. Looks great. Probably in my top two! There are other jets that I like more from that era - but they were only deployed in Europe. 1
deathmisser Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 1 minute ago, Avimimus said: Yes, but the closing speeds are much higher (given the gunner less seconds to fire), the target is larger, and the weight of fire coming back from the bomber is much less... B-29 vs. Mig-15Bis is very different from Il-28 vs. F-86E 😄 Death box or not I'm so gonna enjoy the new damage model on the B-29. Oh god I just remembered flak too jes.
BlitzPig_EL Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 Beautiful model of the F 80. It should make for a good attack bird.
Aapje Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 (edited) Is the radar ranging gunsight going to be implemented? Edited July 26, 2024 by Aapje
LuftManu Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 Really cool! I love these "beaten up" aiframes. This one has seen many battles I also liked this part: The outermost hardpoints below the wingtips were often fitted with 165-gallon jettisonable fuel tanks. It was also possible to mount larger 265-gallon Misawa fuel tanks. 😁
Avimimus Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 1 hour ago, Aapje said: Is the radar ranging gunsight going to be implemented? Did the F-80 carrier a radar - I thought only the F-84E+ and F-86E+ carried ranging radars? Note: A few late model F-86A also carried them - so they might be an option for the F-86A (late) that has been confirmed. 21 minutes ago, LuftManu said: I also liked this part: The outermost hardpoints below the wingtips were often fitted with 165-gallon jettisonable fuel tanks. It was also possible to mount larger 265-gallon Misawa fuel tanks. Were any of the tip-tanks jettisonable?
Aapje Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 18 minutes ago, Avimimus said: Did the F-80 carrier a radar - I thought only the F-84E+ and F-86E+ carried ranging radars? Apparently the plastic cover on the nose is for antennas or such, so disregard my question.
LuftManu Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 19 minutes ago, Avimimus said: Were any of the tip-tanks jettisonable? IIRC yes! They could even mount bombs on that pylon
1CGS LukeFF Posted July 26, 2024 Author 1CGS Posted July 26, 2024 Just now, Aapje said: Apparently the plastic cover on the nose is for antennas or such, so disregard my question. Yes, the standard gunsight was a K-14 lead-computing gunsight. 1
Avimimus Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 4 minutes ago, Aapje said: Apparently the plastic cover on the nose is for antennas or such, so disregard my question. Radars also have antennas - so your question is extremely reasonable.
1CGS LukeFF Posted July 26, 2024 Author 1CGS Posted July 26, 2024 Given the F-80 went out of production in 1950 and it was predominantly used a ground attack plane from the end of the same year, I highly doubt any were fitted with a radar-ranging gunsight. 1
Avimimus Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 Ah, but my dear Luke - what about the F-94? F-80 -> T-33 -> F-94 is a pretty clear genealogy. Is a Fw-190D still a Fw-190? What about a Ta-152? I suppose it is a question for the philosophers... depending on your answer though - it might well count! 😄
Bell Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 Drop tank!!! Finally someone mentioned the F-94, and I was deeply impressed by the Starfire in the WOWP, as well as the legendary story of PO-2 'shooting down' Starfire😁
FuriousMeow Posted July 26, 2024 Posted July 26, 2024 (edited) 6 hours ago, deathmisser said: @LukeFF So if the damage model meant to be something unworldly and unheard of in sims, if I hit the ammo of the machine guns will that cause them to explode and jam the guns ? Already possible in the current version of thy GB engine. Hit cannon ammo boxes and they explode taking wings or planes with them. ------ Looks good, I hope the drop tanks will be modeled more advanced in the direction they were first going rather than the simple fuel bomb every other sim/game uses. Edited July 26, 2024 by FuriousMeow 1
ST_Catchov Posted July 27, 2024 Posted July 27, 2024 The clouds look very nice indeed, the modelling of that crate is superb. It's looking very promising I have to say.
migmadmarine Posted July 27, 2024 Posted July 27, 2024 Love the level of weathering and sheen on the metal surface, I hope that will be easy to replicate with the templates. Maybe it is a side effect of using gimp, but I find it tough to get results that match the default skins metallic look in the the current sim.
Avimimus Posted July 27, 2024 Posted July 27, 2024 50 minutes ago, FuriousMeow said: Looks good, I hope the drop tanks will be modeled more advanced in the direction they were first going rather than the simple fuel bomb every other sim/game uses. This is pure speculation, but I always suspected that the reason for the complex approach to fuel system modelling was for the damage model - all of the simulation of temperature and gas pressure effects, the amount of aerosol vs. liquid in a fuel tanks etc. Looking at it, that complexity is exactly what you would need if you wanted to correctly model risks of explosions and the effect of API rounds... ...so part of me hopes that they did finally figure out the math and succeed. That said, I'd be pretty happy with them releasing the drop tank models already released as a purely cosmetic item To help produce more accurate videos etc.
deathmisser Posted July 27, 2024 Posted July 27, 2024 (edited) Well it seems my new PC can run IL-2 GB between high and ultra without passing 37c. So I'm wondering what the Graphic requirement will be for Korea. Anyway now we have the solid confirmation about the F-80C I wonder who will be next ? Edited July 27, 2024 by deathmisser
[CPT]Crunch Posted July 28, 2024 Posted July 28, 2024 Hope they put the smoke in the cockpit upon start up, one of the characteristics of its centrifugal jet engine, the residual oil smoke gets everywhere, especially in the cockpit. Two sorties in T-33 back seat, one of the strongest impressions I got out of that bird, wasn't expecting it or prepared for it the first time, for a moment before lite off I thought it was catching fire. Why you'd see them always starting with canopy open.
-DED-Takeshi Posted July 30, 2024 Posted July 30, 2024 (edited) F-80 https://www.artstation.com/artwork/a0N4XL Edited July 30, 2024 by RR_Zuboff 1
Trooper117 Posted July 31, 2024 Posted July 31, 2024 It will be interesting to see how the F-80 flies... also interesting to see how they intend to do the start up procedure. Will they keep it similar to the GB series, (more or less automated) or will they go for a more involved approach?
kraut1 Posted August 1, 2024 Posted August 1, 2024 Nice Video! I like the F-80C! For preparation for Korea I have started today my first ever IL-2:GB Rheinland Me-262 fighter bomber career. Thanks to the high speed the mission took not too much time despite of the long distance to the target.
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