Brief Room Episode 2: 2023 In Review, Plans For 2024, A Glimpse At The Upcoming Title

[LukeFF]

4 minutes ago, JG27_Steini said:

Unfortunately there is again only a new graphical and damage update. Even if it sound good. The quirks of the AI wont be eliminated. We will have endlessly circling Mig's or Sabre's in next theatre again. I have a slightly hope that the GUI upgrade will change something to a immersive feeling belonging to a real squadron with more functions in squadron management.

 

The game's not even up for purchase yet and you're already writing it off? C'mon now. ?

[JG27_Steini]

24 minutes ago, LukeFF said:

 

The game's not even up for purchase yet and you're already writing it off? C'mon now. ?

 

C'mon Luke, dont make me optimistic again, i have run into those feelings the last 10 years allready. I am still hyped again, and hoping and hoping and ...

 

Edited December 31, 2023 by JG27_Steini

[pasao]

Good morning all and happy new year

 

It never rains for everybody taste but for me it is more than expected.

Very good job and waiting for more news while I enjoy yours marvelous simulator series

Really I could not imagine so big jump forward in so extensive range of developments in parallel.

 

Every time better than previous

I am totally confident and fidelized with you guys

[Trooper117]

I don't know, people moaning about Korea, teddies already poised to be thrown out of prams... are some of you forgetting that WWII is still continuing for GB?

You will be getting two brand new maps to fight on Karelia and Odessa. You will be getting an early war I-153, plus late war Soviet aircraft to fly and fight... you don't have to fly the Korean stuff you know, but by the way, there was plenty of WWII assets flying and fighting in the air and on the ground in Korea, after all, it's only 5 years after WWII finished.

[Lusekofte]

I am not moaning about Korea. I think it is a neutral choice. 
Not spectacular, and not a huge money collector as some say. To me it seems like another bodenplatte map, with planes of interest get to be ai. And fast food for the masses. But time will tell. 
I really hoped for a New Guinea or Burma. 
This has no interest for me what so ever, but I do not understand the hostile attitude against it. 
Just do like me , completely ignore it and watch it once in a while in case it actually got something that will bring interest. 
For me there is other stuff to do 

ww2 seems to have a great future  even when GB leave it 

Edited December 31, 2023 by Lusekofte

[danielprates]

Well I am certainly buying this, and I'll probably even like it too. Heck I've bought everthing so far, even a useless glider, just to support development (here's your answer @Jade_Monkey) so why not this?

 

I have to say though, some wrong corporate decisions sure were made some years ago when PTO was discarded as a "next thing". I remember all the reasons given but they seem rather pointless now that PTO is going to happen somewhere else. 

 

Also, the "glimpse" at the B29 seems very detailed! Can we hope for a flyable b29?

 

[Gunfreak]

Personally I hope the terrain and ground attack effects get updated.

I just stay away from ground attack in IL2. As the terrain, explosions just pulls me out of my immersion in VR. 

 

[Trooper117]

8 minutes ago, danielprates said:

Also, the "glimpse" at the B29 seems very detailed! Can we hope for a flyable b29?

 

If I was a betting man, I'd definitely go for AI...

[JG4_Moltke1871]

Why there was no information about the next flying circus package in this video? ☹️

[danielprates]

19 minutes ago, Trooper117 said:

 

If I was a betting man, I'd definitely go for AI...

 

That would be my guess too. Even if for the distances alone. B29s in Korea operated from where, mainland Japan at least? That would be a huge map and we're probably not getting that.

[Koziolek]

15 minutes ago, JG4_Moltke1871 said:

Why there was no information about the next flying circus package in this video? ☹️

Probably because there will not be another Flying Circus module. Just some collector planes

[JG4_Moltke1871]

Just now, Koziolek said:

Probably because there will not be another Flying Circus module. Just some collector planes

Yes… and even that earns a little information… ?

[CountZero]

14 minutes ago, danielprates said:

 

That would be my guess too. Even if for the distances alone. B29s in Korea operated from where, mainland Japan at least? That would be a huge map and we're probably not getting that.

Thats why i never got bathered with making maps 1:2 or 1:4 size, in this new games players will never expiriance stuff we could do in old 1946, taking of from japan and bomb targets in korea on multiplayer servers in normal time span.

But yes i expect AI B-29, and no Japan on map, not even full Korea, probably just focus on last part of war where front was static and we have mid to north part on map. 

 

Edited December 31, 2023 by CountZero

[EAF19_Marsh]

I have not had a chance to watch the whole thing, but it seems interesting. Cannot see a ‘45 map mentioned to go with the later VVS aircraft or was it a bit subtle and I missed it?

 

Ruminating as I cook for our evening house party, I am cheerful about the Combat Pilot and GB teams’ take on non-European theaters plus some additional classic things. This could all make for an interesting 2024 (I hope there is some EA opportunity).

 

And an F-4 in beautiful USN schemes, slamming down on a carrier (even if it is the uglier ‘E’ variant.)

 

Now, if the world could just desist from

starting any new wars and my house sale goes through, this could all be pretty cool shizzle.

[Ribbon]

Korea ehhh!

Not my cup of tea, but if that b29 is flyable and corsair takes of from carrier i might go for it (add some gfx, gamemode and map imprpvements).

 

[Juri_JS]

12 minutes ago, EAF19_Marsh said:

Cannot see a ‘45 map mentioned to go with the later VVS aircraft or was it a bit subtle and I missed it?

That's what I wondered too. As far as I know neither the Yak-3 nor the La-7 were used in the areas of the Karelia and Odessa maps in 1944.

[LuftManu]

 GREAT NEWS! ?

 

I couldn't help but be excited with a huge grin with all of the new things! Specially that the team has been expanded. It takes time to get the new people moving, but the roadmap for 2023 was followed and we got everything that was promised on time.
 

In the first part, Karelia and Odessa are great! and even more with Career! I hope this means we could have more collectors in the future too for Early war. Oh boy a good old Buffalo ?

And a La-7 and Yak-3 with a late Stuka on the wishlist is also a great, great idea. Those late Soviet aircraft will be a great match for late German aircraft.

We have WW2 for some time!

 

And now, the biggest thing with the new project. It will be great how all things have been expanded. Besides from the good looking PBR, I got excited hearing Radio, new sounds and better scale of battles. Does it means we will have more A/C in the aire at the same time? I hope so! also excited with the new DM thingies.
 
B-29? Corsair? If it's Korea is going to be a banger. it's been ages since a good Korean War sim. Prop operations were many and so many other planes that we woulnd't be able to fly otherwise in other theaters.

 

I can't wait to have more information and see how it all works.

Kind regards team and happy new year! 

PS: For those who said X is better than Y... I am buying everything so I can enjoy everything. My 2 cents. 

[sevenless]

1 hour ago, danielprates said:

Also, the "glimpse" at the B29 seems very detailed! Can we hope for a flyable b29?

 

 

I doubt that. Think more into the direction of a B17 as DCS has it.

 

5 minutes ago, Juri_JS said:

That's what I wondered too. As far as I know neither the Yak-3 nor the La-7 were used in the areas of the Karelia and Odessa maps in 1944.

 

Neither was the Ta-152-H1 on the Rheinland map. So either they bent history a little like with the Fw 190-A3 and the Stalingrad map, or there will be a late 44/45 map which is still unrevealed. I guess it is the former.

Edited December 31, 2023 by sevenless

[MajorMagee]

Hmmm, B-29 in Korea. The mission profile is take off from Kadena at 18:00, reach the target over Korea at 22:45, return to base by 03:30. Warn your wife that you won't be available for a while...

 

Interesting History Of B-29 In Korea

 

 

Edited December 31, 2023 by MajorMagee

[YoYo]

Im more than HAPPY too! This is great news. ?

 

However, I would still like to know whether the new "IL-2 BoX" will support CPU multithreading.

 

 

[Youtch]

6 hours ago, BraveSirRobin said:

Mig 15 v F-86 is one of the iconic fighter duels in aviation history.  The people who leave will easily be replaced.

 

Just saying.

There is another simulator doing this already for a while and very well, no need to wait for a couple of years for it

[CountZero]

43 minutes ago, EAF19_Marsh said:

I have not had a chance to watch the whole thing, but it seems interesting. Cannot see a ‘45 map mentioned to go with the later VVS aircraft or was it a bit subtle and I missed it?

 

Ruminating as I cook for our evening house party, I am cheerful about the Combat Pilot and GB teams’ take on non-European theaters plus some additional classic things. This could all make for an interesting 2024 (I hope there is some EA opportunity).

 

And an F-4 in beautiful USN schemes, slamming down on a carrier (even if it is the uglier ‘E’ variant.)

 

Now, if the world could just desist from

starting any new wars and my house sale goes through, this could all be pretty cool shizzle.

I dont think they care about if airplane can be historicly used in SP any more for GB , its gona be up to some moders to make corect maps for Ta-152 or this new bathc of fighters.

3 minutes ago, Youtch said:

There is another simulator doing this already for a while and very well, no need to wait for a couple of years for it

yes thats my view also, Korea is mostly about MiG-15s and Sabers, we for years have that in DCS, also its been long and they still didnt show us any new in game stuff so i doubt we gona be able to play this new game in 6 months time like i tought is plan with no early acceses, from video it looks like its still long time away.

 

[YoYo]

9 minutes ago, CountZero said:

yes thats my view also, Korea is mostly about MiG-15s and Sabers, we for years have that in DCS, 

 

No Korea map in DCS means its only a curiosity, nothing more. I prefer to have planes plus map. For example DCS Hellcat without even Zero as AI .

Korea its a Tigercat, Skyrider, Panther and many more, not only Sabre vs MiG btw.

Edited December 31, 2023 by YoYo

[EAF19_Marsh]

5 minutes ago, CountZero said:

I dont think they care about if airplane can be historicly used in SP any more for GB , its gona be up to some moders to make corect maps for Ta-152 or this new bathc of fighters.

yes thats my view also, Korea is mostly about MiG-15s and Sabers, we for years have that in DCS, also its been long and they still didnt show us any new in game stuff so i doubt we gona be able to play this new game in 6 months time like i tought is plan with no early acceses, from video it looks like its still long time away.

 

If they did not care, they probably would not have pursued the maps and career elements. And Korea is ‘mostly’ not about those 2 aircraft, it is mostly about a lot of other things. DCS F-86 vs. MiG-15 is essentially MSFS with guns. There is ample room for a proper Korean War sim with all the other aircraft and elements.

[sevenless]

6 hours ago, BraveSirRobin said:

Mig 15 v F-86 is one of the iconic fighter duels in aviation history.  

 

This other game, the name eludes me..., already has those planes available for some years now. Problem is, that other game delivers zero historical context, career, map etc. So, if 1C can model the context and career mode correctly and immersively for single player, they might have a winner. If not, they will fail. Time will tell.

[tattywelshie]

I for one am super excited about the future plans. Korea is a theatre I don’t know that much about so am looking forward to flying in it. Also, the future plans for new careers and new maps in BoX are pretty exciting as well. 

[=gRiJ=Roman-]

I am missing a game changer .... TORPEDOES!

It would give the Sim a new boost!

Think about it...

[T24_Martin]

I wasn't sure if I would like Korea or not. After the first announcement of a new project I bought this book. It really made me look forward to this theatre.

 

Although my hope is also, that we won't loose the GB series, that it gets more content or will be ported to the new engine. Actually I would pay again for this, cause it is just so much good content and from all flightsims, this one I play most. 

 

I mean DCS also managed to update their engine and they have a lot of third party assets.

Edited December 31, 2023 by T24_Martin

[ITAF_Rani]

F4U and B 29....Okinawa/Japan 1945... probably.

 

[=gRiJ=Roman-]

16 hours ago, Lythronax said:

F4U-4, B-29, IL-10 and late Yak-9 seem to indicate Korea to me!

In what minute of the video do they mention these 3 aircraft? I missed that ...

[Pict]

13 hours ago, Jade_Monkey said:

Im assuming the Yak 3 and La7 are just collector planes and not part of the new project?

 

Based on the wording, it seems like the new project will indeed be a separate game that will leave behind the current GB generation and start anew with less baggage although inheriting many technologies and knowledge.

 

I didn't get that impression, but if you are right, then I will think long and hard before investing any time or money in it

 

However like I said, I didn't get that impression, so if it's just another GB to add to the content I already have, fine my moneys there, even althought Korea is of no huge interest to me

 

The other GB content sounds great, Odessa, Karelia, Ta-152, Yak-3, La-7 and the I-153 and will be a sure purchase for me

[T24_Martin]

All mentioned aircraft fit Korea. Even P-51 or later F-51 where in use against Yak-9. B-29 flew from Japan and IL-10 was a common ground attack aircraft of the northern fraction..

 

Korea is an interesting mix of top notch piston aircraft and the rise of jet planes. All still as gunfighter.

[Gunfreak]

41 minutes ago, T24_Martin said:

I wasn't sure if I would like Korea or not. After the first announcement of a new project I bought this book. It really made me look forward to this theatre.

 

Although my hope is also, that we won't loose the GB series, that it gets more content or will be ported to the new engine. Actually I would pay again for this, cause it is just so much good content and from all flightsims, this one I play most. 

 

I mean DCS also managed to update their engine and they have a lot of third party assets.

Excellent book, all of Cleaver's books are excellent, he has like a 4 book series on the Pacific war, 2 or 3 on Vietnam and he as also done a followup to mig alley about the navy during Korea. All his books use sources from all sides. Japanese, British, American, Vietnamese, soviet, North Korea, China etc.

[Jaegermeister]

46 minutes ago, YoYo said:

 

No Korea map in DCS means its only a curiosity, nothing more. I prefer to have planes plus map. For example DCS Hellcat without even Zero as AI .

Korea its a Tigercat, Skyrider, Panther and many more, not only Sabre vs MiG btw.

Without an appropriate map and home base to put a property skinned flight or 2, I would not even start to make a mission or campaign with a Corsair, Mustang, Yak-9, Sabre or MiG. Then there would need to be the right AI aircraft to escort or encounter, and then the enemy aircraft would need to be correct as well. Without all those things, plus ground assets and believable scenery, it would just be flying a neat aircraft, but in no way immersive or ready for the type of content this community expects. 

 

It looks to me like we will get all those things listed above. I just wonder if the mission editor will get a rework… @LukeFF, any word on that? Maybe it’s on the Q&A list.

[Gunfreak]

1 hour ago, YoYo said:

 

No Korea map in DCS means its only a curiosity, nothing more. I prefer to have planes plus map. For example DCS Hellcat without even Zero as AI .

Korea its a Tigercat, Skyrider, Panther and many more, not only Sabre vs MiG btw.

Not only is there no Korea map in DCS, but the MiG15 AI has been and still is broken. AI MIG15 in DCS, has infinite energy, it uses a secret afterburner that makes the F16 engine look like a weakling. As long as a Player flies it its really good, but the AI breaks it. 

 

The Hunters over the Yalu is a great DCS campaign even if the map is wrong. But the broken Mig15 AI, lack of sovet ground assets, lack of air assets (outside of P51, MiG15 and F86 ) just ruins it for me. 

[jnfrombigt]

I personally would have preferred Kursk to Korea but that's just my preference.  Thinking about a climbing scissors in an F-86 against a Mig-15 over the Yallu River, well that sounds like fun to me.   I hope I don't have to wait three more years but if I do, so be it.

 

I keep reading "If it's not this or that I'm gonna take my toys and go home".   Well,   Goodbye

 

Me, I have been amazed each time I get into this game at what they accomplished.  I suspect they'll continue to match and exceed my expectations.  I just hope it doesn't become a setup nightmare like MSFS and DCS are with VR.  I've had to learn what every button and switch does on a 777 and MD-11 before and I don't want to do that just to play a game.

 

 

[Jade_Monkey]

I'm confused about why they would want to spend time making actual tunnels. 

 

I'm not complaining, just wondering how that ended up as a priority. Is there a gameplay mechanic in the new project that requires it? Is the map very mountainous?

 

Maybe because trains and vehicles cannot keep going in the current version and that could impact logistics? I'm probably overthinking it

[Art-J]

1 hour ago, =gRiJ=Roman- said:

In what minute of the video do they mention these 3 aircraft? I missed that ...

They didn't mention them, but they showed WIP models of them. Deathmisser posted all screenshots on the first page if this thread.

[CountZero]

57 minutes ago, Jaegermeister said:

Without an appropriate map and home base to put a property skinned flight or 2, I would not even start to make a mission or campaign with a Corsair, Mustang, Yak-9, Sabre or MiG. Then there would need to be the right AI aircraft to escort or encounter, and then the enemy aircraft would need to be correct as well. Without all those things, plus ground assets and believable scenery, it would just be flying a neat aircraft, but in no way immersive or ready for the type of content this community expects. 

 

It looks to me like we will get all those things listed above. I just wonder if the mission editor will get a rework… @LukeFF, any word on that? Maybe it’s on the Q&A list.

no map or area works just fine for DCS for years, they even do later jets in pretend places over same map... and AI, well i didnt here them talking about it and its one of big problems in todays game how disconected you are from your other AI wingmans or flight leads, so i would not expect big change in new game , as it seams ppl just buy and play no mather how good or bad AI skill or cooperation is. Or maybe well get more about SP improvments in Q/A part. But to me its always with modern games that AI and SP imersion is not that important.

 

and if you have game that have good jet airplanes in both sides, no one will realy be playing yak-9P vs F-51D, they gona come because jets and in MP its gona be jets vs jets and few GA props, but even then why take prop when you can use F-84. Its like when ppl think about BoB they think about Spit vs 109 not Hurri vs 109, its same for Korea, there is playnty of other airplanes but most think about Mig15 vs F-86, like its PTO Zero vs Cats and so on... Combat Pilot didnt start by making Ki-43 and P-39, they go with Zero vs F4F or bust.

18 minutes ago, Jade_Monkey said:

I'm confused about why they would want to spend time making actual tunnels. 

 

I'm not complaining, just wondering how that ended up as a priority. Is there a gameplay mechanic in the new project that requires it? Is the map very mountainous?

 

Maybe because trains and vehicles cannot keep going in the current version and that could impact logistics? I'm probably overthinking it

Tunels were important in Korea war

[BraveSirRobin]

7 hours ago, GOA_Karaya_VR said:

 

Good for you, and good for those who want to spend their bills on a "great battle" war period that the majority dont like, or want a pacific ww2 asian period rather than Korea.

 

We will seen if all of the il2 enthusiast will fill those MIGs vs F86s cockpits or sadly they will be empty.

 

Just saying.

Mig 15/F-86 is a great matchup.  There will be absolutely no problem filling those cockpits.  Good luck finding a developer that will produce a Spanish Civil war game!

 

just saying…

2 hours ago, Youtch said:

There is another simulator doing this already for a while and very well, no need to wait for a couple of years for it

You’ll probably be waiting a very long time to get anything besides those 2 aircraft.