*FIXED IN LAST UPDATE* Vvs career : latter stages of Stanligrad battle unplayable

[I./JG52_Woutwocampe]

At the point when the Germans are surrounded, the exact opposite of what should actually happen happens ; every mission you fly and attack what troops remain in the pocket you get flooded by an absolutely RIDICULOUS amount of 109s. You encouter 2, 3, even 4 waves of 109s often at the same time and get decimated  EVERY SINGLE TIME. I'm not even mentionning flights of Stukas and Hs129 with their escort that are alway spawning nearby and often joining the slaughter. You, your 7x IL2 wingmen and your small escort of 4x La5s are supposed to face this insanity alone without any other help, EVERY SINGLE MISSION.

 

Its excruciatingly frustrating, and totally unrealistic. This game has the Lutwaffe in its prime when it actually should be in disarray. 

 

Please, fix this issue, make less Luftwaffe flights spawn from this small pocket, its totally unplayable, you cant do anything, you're dead as soon as you cross the frontline. If a side should show great numbers at this point its the vvs, now its the Luftwaffe 4 or 5 times numerically superior. Its just insane.

Edited July 20, 2023 by I./JG52_Woutwocampe

[I./JG52_Woutwocampe]

Here are the details of the last mission I flew in this career.

 

Bomb enemy troops

 

VVS 

 

8X IL2s 1942 (my flight)

4x La5s (our escort)

6x Yak 1s (far away, de-spawned, never involved)

 

Luftwaffe

 

4x 109G4s with gunpods (first wave above the pocket 20kms from target)

4x 109E7s (second wave like 7 minutes after the G4s)

4x 109E7s (3rd wave just after the 2nd wave)

6x Junker 87s (above the pocket not far from our target)

6x 109G2s (escort of the Stukas and they engaged us like things werent bad enough already)

?x Hs129 (above the pocket some 10 kms away)

?x 109s unknown model (escort of the hs129s we were dead before they joined)

 

So, I dont need to tell you how fun it was. But who doesnt enjoy a prisonrape so intense that only your dentist can identify whats left of you though?

 

See you next mission for something similar, just as fair and realistic!

[Regingrave-]

27.05.2023 в 17:04, I./JG52_Woutwocampe сказал:

At the point when the Germans are surrounded, the exact opposite of what should actually happen happens ; every mission you fly and attack what troops remain in the pocket you get flooded by an absolutely RIDICULOUS amount of 109s. You encouter 2, 3, even 4 waves of 109s often at the same time and get decimated  EVERY SINGLE TIME. I'm not even mentionning flights of Stukas and Hs129 with their escort that are alway spawning nearby and often joining the slaughter. You, your 7x IL2 wingmen and your small escort of 4x La5s are supposed to face this insanity alone without any other help, EVERY SINGLE MISSION.

 

Its excruciatingly frustrating, and totally unrealistic. This game has the Lutwaffe in its prime when it actually should be in disarray. 

 

Please, fix this issue, make less Luftwaffe flights spawn from this small pocket, its totally unplayable, you cant do anything, you're dead as soon as you cross the frontline. If a side should show great numbers at this point its the vvs, now its the Luftwaffe 4 or 5 times numerically superior. Its just insane.

What career density and difficulty setteings do you use?

[I./JG52_Woutwocampe]

9 hours ago, Regingrave said:

What career density and difficulty setteings do you use?

 

Normal difficulty

High density

 

I always use these settings for all my careers and usually its kind of well balanced.

 

But for this particular phase, it seems that the vvs is actually low density but the Lutfwaffe is at a hidden EXTREME density.

 

I would expect several flights of IL2s and soviet fighters above Stalingrad and a fewer 109's to emulate the fuel shortage. Its the opposite every single attack mission though. Feels more like June 41 than December 42.....

 

 

Edited May 31, 2023 by I./JG52_Woutwocampe

[I./JG52_Woutwocampe]

I was not able to gather precise numbers for my last mission because it simply was too chaotic above the pocket. But I can tell you that when we reached the frontline (the mission was to attack the frontline) there was at least 10x 109s. It was at least two flights because some 109s had gunpod while the others didnt. There also were a couple of Mc202 and Hs129 nearby so I'd assume the Mc202 were supposed to be escort but they joined the slaughter. All 6x Lagg3s were shot down, as well as 5 Il2s of my flight. I survived with 2x other Il2s which is a feat by itself.

 

Also, the 109s still chased me for a long while and of course I cheesed them by flying at tree top until they quit. I thought that was fixed? Its not, still happens often.

 

In short, this needs to be checked ASAP, right now its atrocious. Next mission is attack a river crossing within the pocket so I expect the entire Luftwaffe to be there waiting for my flight 

 

 

 

 

[LukeFF]

@I./JG52_Woutwocampe, the team is looking into fixing this issue, so don't lose hope. ?

[I./JG52_Woutwocampe]

38 minutes ago, LukeFF said:

@I./JG52_Woutwocampe, the team is looking into fixing this issue, so don't lose hope. ?

 

Great news. I didnt lose any hope thats why I started this thread and provided a few numbers. That's the only way to help improving a situation. It is frustrating right now but it can certainely be tweaked.

 

In the meantime, I will clench my teeth and plunge into the abyss

[I./JG52_Woutwocampe]

@LukeFF

 

Another mission tonight in this campaign.

 

Yep, seems that its much more balanced and fair now, Lutwaffe fighters are much more scarce now. 

 

But, was this tweaked in the last update? I remember reading about the new scripted campaign and some new mission types but not balance adjustements and stuff like that? 

[LukeFF]

14 hours ago, I./JG52_Woutwocampe said:

Another mission tonight in this campaign.

 

Yep, seems that its much more balanced and fair now, Lutwaffe fighters are much more scarce now. 

 

But, was this tweaked in the last update? I remember reading about the new scripted campaign and some new mission types but not balance adjustements and stuff like that? 

 

Yes, it was adjusted in the last update, but it didn't make it into the update notes. 

[I./JG52_Woutwocampe]

1 hour ago, LukeFF said:

 

Yes, it was adjusted in the last update, but it didn't make it into the update notes. 

 

Was there other ajustments such as this one applied to campaigns and careers? Apart from the new mission types that is.

[LukeFF]

3 hours ago, I./JG52_Woutwocampe said:

Was there other ajustments such as this one applied to campaigns and careers? Apart from the new mission types that is.

 

No, that was it. I try to make note of such things in the Career Assistance section, but it slipped my mind this time. 

[Yogiflight]

11 hours ago, LukeFF said:

I try to make note of such things in the Career Assistance section, but it slipped my mind this time. 

Hmm, so you are just human? Very dissappointing