Avimimus Posted November 16, 2022 Posted November 16, 2022 There was no official discussion thread for this new thread: But I feel like there are things worth discussing... so... let's discuss! Q: Why the Fw-190D9? Has anything changed or is it just there to be ever-so-pretty? Also, check out the StuG III... notice the view through the periscopes is considerably higher? Even the gunner's scope is one the roof. It was a very low vehicle (similar to the Panzerjäger 38(t)/Hetzer, slightly higher than the Jagdpanzer IV). I think the only openings on the front were the gun-barrel itself and the hull machine gun! It is also interesting to realise that this was the original casement tank destoyer (and all of the other casemate tanks/Jagdpanzers appeared almost simultaneously in a five month period over the winter of '44-'45 as different chassis were converted).
CountZero Posted November 17, 2022 Posted November 17, 2022 I guess its to 1CGS games display how improved graphics for airplanes could look, or its just place to atract more workers... like anything after Jason, its a mistary and its so exiciting to speculate, insted know. if you look at link from last DD you can fined D9 cockpit pics and Yak-9 also: https://www.artstation.com/artwork/Arm35q https://www.artstation.com/artwork/NGWeV1 1
Jade_Monkey Posted November 17, 2022 Posted November 17, 2022 The only thing that looks different to me (and maybe it's placebo) is the lighting. That could be because the shots are taken from the 3D modeling tool and not the game, i have no idea. 3
Alexmarine Posted November 17, 2022 Posted November 17, 2022 Hope that the StuG crew wearing "Panzer Black" uniforms are just a placeholder... 3
Gambit21 Posted November 17, 2022 Posted November 17, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Jade_Monkey said: The only thing that looks different to me (and maybe it's placebo) is the lighting. That could be because the shots are taken from the 3D modeling tool and not the game, i have no idea. Yes...those are renderings from within 3DS Max, not the game engine. Edit....some are game engine shots (tanks) but mostly (Dora) 3D app. Edited November 17, 2022 by Gambit21
Avimimus Posted November 17, 2022 Author Posted November 17, 2022 30 minutes ago, Alexmarine said: Hope that the StuG crew wearing "Panzer Black" uniforms are just a placeholder... Because they'd have still been attached to the Infantry at this point in time? 40 minutes ago, CountZero said: I guess its to 1CGS games display how improved graphics for airplanes could look, or its just place to atract more workers... like anything after Jason, its a mistary and its so exiciting to speculate, insted know. if you look at link from last DD you can fined D9 cockpit pics and Yak-9 also: https://www.artstation.com/artwork/Arm35q https://www.artstation.com/artwork/NGWeV1 26 minutes ago, Gambit21 said: Yes...those are renderings from within 3DS Max, not the game engine. Edit....some are game engine shots (tanks) but mostly (Dora) 3D app. I wonder if they are applying some adjustments prior to introducing new shaders to the game engine? Alternatively, they could just be marketing the sim with beautiful images they happen to have on hand (and one must admit that they are beauties).
migmadmarine Posted November 17, 2022 Posted November 17, 2022 36 minutes ago, Alexmarine said: Hope that the StuG crew wearing "Panzer Black" uniforms are just a placeholder... Weren't there some StuGs in service with panzer divisions in the mid/late war, or were these always attached from other units?
Eisenfaustus Posted November 17, 2022 Posted November 17, 2022 53 minutes ago, migmadmarine said: Weren't there some StuGs in service with panzer divisions in the mid/late war, or were these always attached from other units? They were - however StuG units were part of the artillery branch, not Panzerwaffe. At least in the Heer - I think Waffen-SS StuG units might have worn black.
migmadmarine Posted November 17, 2022 Posted November 17, 2022 Not sure I follow your answer, they were attached from another unit, or could be operated by panzer branch crews within a panzer unit in some divisions?
Dusty_Steppes Posted November 17, 2022 Posted November 17, 2022 German divisions were made up of units from the different branches of service. Each branch used a different color on the piping of the uniform.
DN308 Posted November 17, 2022 Posted November 17, 2022 What I’ve noticed is that the panzer leader is an enlisted man, not even a NCO; and that the crew don’t have the panzer skull on their collar or headgear
Alexmarine Posted November 17, 2022 Posted November 17, 2022 @Dusty_Steppes @migmadmarine @AvimimusIf we go by timeframe of depicting a StuG crew at Kursk: no "Panzer" unit used them in the Kursk area, all SPGs were in their own battalions (be them Assault Gun Btns or Panzerjäger Btns). During 1944 the Panzer troops started to get more StuG in as replacement for proper tanks (especially the Panzer Abteilung of PzGrenadier Divisions) and by the year end even some Panzer division regiments started to have to work with them, but especially early on those were mainly StuG IV as it was based on the chassis of the Pz IV. But the overall numbers of StuG in Pz Units never surpassed the total of those in the Sturm Artillery and PzJäger units. An example: 25th PzG Division had in December 1944 in it's Pz.Abt. 5 10 Panthers and 6 StuG IV (those guys wore the black uniform) while in it's Pz.Jg.Abt. 25 they had 17 StuG III (those guys wore the grey-green uniform) In my example both StuG crews would still have "Panzer Pink" pipings, but if we had a Sturm Artillery unit those should have been changed to "Artillery Red". If we go again for what was more common at Prokhorovka, most units wore "Artillery Red". 1 2
Avimimus Posted November 17, 2022 Author Posted November 17, 2022 Got to love the emphasis on each set of photos in the new post ("Not a playable vehicle")... they know us too well. That said, the Bren carrier is interesting (I wonder if they'll have the mortar carrier version? Probably not?) and the Bofors is a bit intimidating. 1
Wardog5711 Posted November 17, 2022 Posted November 17, 2022 LOL. The engineers were quite specific. Make sure they know it is not drivable! 4
Trooper117 Posted November 17, 2022 Posted November 17, 2022 Are the vehicles for use as AI in the flight simming or TC side of things or both? As much as I love the level of detail, I won't really see it if I'm screaming down in a Tiffy, intent on putting a salvo of rockets into those Panthers as I flash by...
1CGS LukeFF Posted November 17, 2022 1CGS Posted November 17, 2022 14 minutes ago, Avimimus said: That said, the Bren carrier is interesting (I wonder if they'll have the mortar carrier version? Probably not?) The version of what you see in the screenshots is what you'll see in the game. 1 minute ago, Trooper117 said: Are the vehicles for use as AI in the flight simming or TC side of things or both? Both
Wardog5711 Posted November 17, 2022 Posted November 17, 2022 Quote the Bofors is a bit intimidating. It is in real life as well. One of the local re-enactment groups has one and it is brutal if you are laying prone in the frontal arc when they fire it. Even using the modern propane unit as a replacement for the previously used blank rounds, it can rattle you. But it is awesome to watch in operation. 1
tattywelshie Posted November 17, 2022 Posted November 17, 2022 11 minutes ago, Wardog5711 said: It is in real life as well. One of the local re-enactment groups has one and it is brutal if you are laying prone in the frontal arc when they fire it. Even using the modern propane unit as a replacement for the previously used blank rounds, it can rattle you. But it is awesome to watch in operation. Good to see the bofors, we’ve got one guarding one of the bridges in Swansea as a memorial to the blitz, impressive looking piece of AAA!
Vishnu Posted November 17, 2022 Posted November 17, 2022 Soooooo….I’m guessing they are ALL player controlled. Woot! 3
Gambit21 Posted November 17, 2022 Posted November 17, 2022 Glad to see the bofurs finally - took a little minute. Looks great though.
MiGCap Posted November 17, 2022 Posted November 17, 2022 Clarification for the uniforms of the StuG crew: Standard uniform of German StuG crews was cut like that for the Panzer crews, but in field-grey instead of black. Panzer collar tabs also in field-grey with skulls but with artillery red piping instead of pink, because Sturmgeschütze were Sturmartillerie. Of course, there were variations. 2
Avimimus Posted November 17, 2022 Author Posted November 17, 2022 59 minutes ago, Wardog5711 said: LOL. The engineers were quite specific. Make sure they know it is not drivable! Wise people ?
Jade_Monkey Posted November 17, 2022 Posted November 17, 2022 @Wardog5711, can you please inquire about static vehicles/planes? They are sorely missing from the mission editor for Normandy 1
Juri_JS Posted November 17, 2022 Posted November 17, 2022 Nice, I can't remember that the devs mentioned, that we would get a G variant Panther (on the left).
Voidhunger Posted November 17, 2022 Posted November 17, 2022 7 minutes ago, Juri_JS said: Nice, I can't remember that the devs mentioned, that we would get a G variant Panther (on the left). it was mentioned in the russian forum
ITAF_Airone1989 Posted November 17, 2022 Posted November 17, 2022 Obviously, can't wait to drive them all! 1
Gambit21 Posted November 17, 2022 Posted November 17, 2022 1 hour ago, Juri_JS said: Nice, I can't remember that the devs mentioned, that we would get a G variant Panther (on the left). To be clear, not to be confused with the one in the right, which is NOT driveable.
Dusty_Steppes Posted November 18, 2022 Posted November 18, 2022 3 hours ago, Juri_JS said: Nice, I can't remember that the devs mentioned, that we would get a G variant Panther (on the left). If they do give us a G variant, it would be nice to provide some balance by also giving us the T34/85, SU-100, and IS-2. 1 1
1CGS LukeFF Posted November 18, 2022 1CGS Posted November 18, 2022 Are some people already forgetting that these vehicles are not going to be drivable? ? 2
Avimimus Posted November 18, 2022 Author Posted November 18, 2022 2 hours ago, Dusty_Steppes said: If they do give us a G variant, it would be nice to provide some balance by also giving us the T34/85, SU-100, and IS-2. Are you sure it wouldn't be fairest if no one gets any new vehicles until I get a drivable bren carrier? 1
Hoots Posted November 18, 2022 Posted November 18, 2022 6 hours ago, LukeFF said: Are some people already forgetting that these vehicles are not going to be drivable? ? Well, it has been a whole 5 minutes… 2
Trooper117 Posted November 18, 2022 Posted November 18, 2022 Are they drivable or not?... because I don't want to drive them! 2
Vishnu Posted November 18, 2022 Posted November 18, 2022 31 minutes ago, Trooper117 said: Are they drivable or not?... because I don't want to drive them! What exactly, are you driving at? 1
MAJ_stug41 Posted November 18, 2022 Posted November 18, 2022 27 minutes ago, RedeyeStorm said: This is driving me nuts! What's that tiller doing on your pants?
MAJ_stug41 Posted November 18, 2022 Posted November 18, 2022 9 minutes ago, Wardog5711 said: Quick, post some DD content to put it back on the rails! 2
Wardog5711 Posted November 18, 2022 Posted November 18, 2022 Don't get too attached to that. It was in with a batch of approved pics that I pulled for posting. BUT, it did not have the IL-2 water mark. SO, I've had to pull it down for now. And If I'm not here Monday, you all know why.? 3
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