Can this be cleared up please...

[=621=Samikatz]

 

Looks like there's going to be another live stream in a few days for the studio's 10th anniversary, description translation:

 

Hopefully we get some information there? "We are still making IL-2" is also nice to hear even if I never doubted it personally

[DBFlyguy]

6 hours ago, =621=Samikatz said:

 

Looks like there's going to be another live stream in a few days for the studio's 10th anniversary, description translation:

 

Hopefully we get some information there? "We are still making IL-2" is also nice to hear even if I never doubted it personally

Is this russian only or will there be an English stream @Wardog5711 ?

[Guest deleted@83466]

Am I the only one who thinks those two guys are making a dick joke?

[Wardog5711]

@DBFlyguy I just left a note for the CM team, asking for clarification. They should see it in a few hours when they get in the office.

 

[dburne]

Great get the popcorn another live stream coming .

In all seriousness I do hope this is the one where they clear up what is next and some of these unanswered questions.

They have sunk a lot of money into 1CGS with all the employees they have now so I have little doubt it will be exciting.

Edited December 28, 2022 by dburne

[Wardog5711]

OK, straight from my boss:

 

That's the weekly podcast done by Albert and Sergey (HR Director) called post-credits. It's about the industry in general and industrial news. Sometimes they invite guest to the studio. I was one of them 2 pr 3 weeks ago. Han and Viks were also guests some time ago. It's not about IL-2 in particular. This episode will be dedicated to the 10th anniversary of the studio and will be live tomorrow. It's live and in Russian only

 

It is NOT the update you are looking for.

[DBFlyguy]

bruh......

[deathmisser]

5 hours ago, DBFlyguy said:

bruh......

I feel your pain m8.

 

I feel like we gonna get the announcement at the end of January at the earliest.

[Gambit21]

8 hours ago, Wardog5711 said:

 

 

It is NOT the update you are looking for.

 

You missed a low-hanging Obi-Wan joke there.

 

 

[Lusekofte]

[CountZero]

From last DD:

 

What does it all mean and how will this affect LeBron's legacy?

 

1. Bring the production of the new large-scale project to full speed;
2. Complete the development of a number of new base technologies for the new project, which we started working on last year already;
3. Develop new approaches to the user experience in the next project, taking into account all the previous experience (both our own and that of our competitors);
4. Continue releasing new content for the Great Battles world;
5. Add new employees to the team, increasing the number of team members by 1.5 times in total;
6. Establish partnerships with teams and enthusiasts who will help us in the development of the Great Battles world, as well as in the creation of content for the new project.

[Koziolek]

7 minutes ago, CountZero said:

From last DD:

 

What does it all mean and how will this affect LeBron's legacy?

 

For me it means we will have two different games from now on

But they do not abandon the GB but more will be done by community ( maps) then by them ( planes) 

Community or 3rd parties

Edited December 29, 2022 by Koziolek

[BMA_FlyingShark]

26 minutes ago, CountZero said:

LeBron's legacy

Sorry if this is a stupid question but who or what is "LeBron's legacy"?

 

Have a nice day.

 

[Koziolek]

5 minutes ago, FlyingShark said:

Sorry if this is a stupid question but who or what is "LeBron's legacy"?

 

Have a nice day.

 

I have absolutely no idea either, so I just reacted to: What does it all mean ?

[BladeMeister]

1 hour ago, FlyingShark said:

Sorry if this is a stupid question but who or what is "LeBron's legacy"?

 

Have a nice day.

 

I am pretty sure He is an Iranian woman who plays Go while not wearing a hijab. At least that is my understanding of ' Lebron's Legacy'.

 

S!Blade<><

[LukeFF]

11 hours ago, FlyingShark said:

Sorry if this is a stupid question but who or what is "LeBron's legacy"?

 

An American basketball player with a grossly overinflated sense of self-worth.

[Noisemaker]

23 minutes ago, LukeFF said:

 

An American basketball player with a grossly overinflated sense of self-worth.

What is this "basketball" you speak of?

[Cloyd]

40 minutes ago, LukeFF said:

 

An American basketball player with a grossly overinflated sense of self-worth.

Are you talking about his worth to basketball, or are grinding some other axe?

"Shut up, and dribble!"

[354thFG_Drewm3i-VR]

55 minutes ago, Cloyd said:

Are you talking about his worth to basketball, or are grinding some other axe?

"Shut up, and dribble!"

This guy

 

 

1 hour ago, LukeFF said:

 

An American basketball player with a grossly overinflated sense of self-worth.

 

[Voidhunger]

On 12/28/2022 at 2:39 PM, DBFlyguy said:

bruh......

F...k I have almost spilled my wine :)) ?

11 minutes ago, drewm3i-VR said:

This guy

 

 

 

hahha I didnt know this guy. Its funny

[ST_Catchov]

Dudes don't make me invoke Rule 15! Who gives a crap about basketball. You have been warned ....

 

[LukeFF]

4 hours ago, Cloyd said:

Are you talking about his worth to basketball, or are grinding some other axe?

"Shut up, and dribble!"

 

Yes

[Eisenfaustus]

21 hours ago, CountZero said:

1. Bring the production of the new large-scale project to full speed;
2. Complete the development of a number of new base technologies for the new project, which we started working on last year already;
3. Develop new approaches to the user experience in the next project, taking into account all the previous experience (both our own and that of our competitors);
4. Continue releasing new content for the Great Battles world;
5. Add new employees to the team, increasing the number of team members by 1.5 times in total;
6. Establish partnerships with teams and enthusiasts who will help us in the development of the Great Battles world, as well as in the creation of content for the new project.

OK - so the next project will not be part of the GB series.

There will be new content for GB but no new modules - most likely collector planes mainly...

There will most likely be no further improvements of GB's core systems:

- No further improvements in AI

- No fuelsystems or droptanks

- No Incendiary Ammo

 

Roger

[dburne]

2 hours ago, Eisenfaustus said:

OK - so the next project will not be part of the GB series.

There will be new content for GB but no new modules - most likely collector planes mainly...

There will most likely be no further improvements of GB's core systems:

- No further improvements in AI

- No fuelsystems or droptanks

- No Incendiary Ammo

 

Roger

 

You guys that have that crystal ball need to stop hogging it...

[CountZero]

3 hours ago, Eisenfaustus said:

OK - so the next project will not be part of the GB series.

There will be new content for GB but no new modules - most likely collector planes mainly...

There will most likely be no further improvements of GB's core systems:

- No further improvements in AI

- No fuelsystems or droptanks

- No Incendiary Ammo

 

Roger

Thats the way i see it also

 

So best outcome is their new project is so great, and ppl who play GB buy it and start playing there more then here... youll have only tankers and ww1 guys stuck with this old game version then.

But what i belive its gona happend is this new project will not be so big improvment to justifie ppl leving what they have here, so we will all be stuck with this old version we have here that they will not have incentive to maintain, if we need to be switched to new project game that will be their focus.

Edited December 30, 2022 by CountZero

[Trooper117]

35 minutes ago, CountZero said:

youll have only tankers and ww1 guys stuck with this old game version then.

 

I do believe he may have nailed it...

[1PL-Husar-1Esk]

I told you @CountZero , you were not listening, arguing to end. You  see it as it doesn't make sense. Personally, it's just a game, not the end of the world. New might be good or not. If you think you can change thiers plans, well you can try.

[CountZero]

3 hours ago, 1PL-Husar-1Esk said:

I told you @CountZero , you were not listening, arguing to end. You  see it as it doesn't make sense. Personally, it's just a game, not the end of the world. New might be good or not. If you think you can change thiers plans, well you can try.

Yes you did and i didnt belive it even after i read last DD, because to me this is so wrong that i cant see how now is good time to split the game. I dont expect anything posted on forum have any impact on devs plans. Reading last Han post, so same how to everyone exept guy making calls was clear option 1 is way to go, this is how its clear to me making 2nd game out of same but improved engine and abandoning all what was done here for it is bad option.

[kestrel79]

At first I was thinking we'd just be getting a new module, with the same engine a few months back, even after the recent livestream. I thought it was just something lost in translation that alluded to a new product and new engine...and we'd get the next theater announcement soon.

 

But now after the recent Jason interview, how tight lipped they are about what's coming next, adding new devs to the team, new ownership, it very much seems that the next chapter is underway that's something new. I've seen lots of speculation on here in multiple threads, the great Stormbirds blog, and here's my two cents on what I think it's going to be. 

 

My gut is it will be a "new" engine, but use existing models and data, and code from the current engine but on steroids. Sorta like what DCS has done. They've updated their engine a few times over the years, but it's still the same modules. They have just been updated and redone in higher resolutions and with better graphics and performance. This "new" engine will be much easier for 3rd parties to make and sell planes, maps, campaigns. It will be more of a marketplace or store built into the sim like FS2020 and DCS. The new engine will also allow for much more aircraft and assets on screen, bombers, etc and people online on one server.

 

I also believe this "new" engine will have significant core gameplay updates that will make us drop all our other favorite combat sims and play this one. If you think about it, combat sims gameplay wise haven't changed in 20-30 years. Static campaigns, dogfight multiplayer maps. It's all basically still IL2-1946 with better graphics, but the same gameplay wise. Any updates with gameplay have come from 3rd party servers adding their own tricks...but I believe this extra gameplay will be built into the new sim's core experience. I'm talking capturable bases, resupplies, troop drops, moving front stuff, dynamic campaigns. Stuff WW2 Online or even Air Warrior had way back in the day with new stuff we haven't thought about yet... When they hint it's going to be something "new" they aren't talking a planeset or theater, but more so gameplay wise. At least one can dream that's just my hot take.

 

So we'll still be flying these same planes we currently have, driving these same tanks, on these same maps...but just with 4 engine bombers added, way more assets on screen, with new maps and planes sprouting up all the time with easier 3rd party dev tools and a marketplace to sell their stuff. With really fun new gameplay for pilots and tankers on all these maps and servers at the same time. I just can't see them after making so many awesome updates this past year to IL2-GB scrapping everything they've worked on so far entirely and starting completely brand new. It has to be based on the current engine and assets in some way. Otherwise we wouldn't see anything new for years.

 

Can't wait to find out! Until then I'm going to keep enjoying this amazing sim and others!

[dburne]

1CGS could clear all this up with one very simple clear and succinct statement.

Yet they refuse to do so. I do not find that attractive myself. If anything it is starting to cause me to sour a little on the franchise.

 

Edited January 3, 2023 by dburne

[Guest deleted@83466]

5 minutes ago, dburne said:

1CGS could clear all this up with one very simple clear and succinct statement.

Yet they refuse to do so. I do not find that attractive myself. If anything it is starting to cause me to sour a little on the franchise.

 

 

You sound like a man who has found a new lover,  and I hear she’s a real spitfire.

[dburne]

Just now, SeaSerpent said:

 

You sound like a man who has found a new lover,  and I hear she’s a real spitfire.

 

LOL.

[sevenless]

4 hours ago, kestrel79 said:

Can't wait to find out! Until then I'm going to keep enjoying this amazing sim and others!

 

Same here. There will be 2-3 years until the new project will reach gold-standard anyways. More than enough time to decide whether or not it will supplement my sim collection.

[WheelwrightPL]

5 hours ago, kestrel79 said:

My gut is it will be a "new" engine, but use existing models and data, and code from the current engine but on steroids.

 

They would have to employ dozens and dozens of people to build a new engine, even while reusing whatever existing code they can (which I don't believe is much, because after so many years those codebases routinely metastasize into a tangled, unusable mess). Frankly, I don't believe they have the money for it. Even if they did, it would take years, but they can't reasonably wait that long just to have something to start building a new product with. So before they embark on this monumental and extremely risky task of creating their own engine, it would be prudent to do feasibility studies on existing general-purpose gaming engines (like Unreal 5.1) to see if they can support the flight-sim genre. And there is hope they might: for example some recent Unreal 5.1 demos showed the engine's ability to display hundreds of thousands of trees from bird-eye's view without a hitch, and without any loss of detail, due to something called "nanites".

Edited January 3, 2023 by WheelwrightPL

[Guest deleted@83466]

Don’t Borg Nanites course through Seven of Nine’s blood?  If so, and detail becomes Unreal engine, than that would be something indeed.

[BraveSirRobin]

1 hour ago, dburne said:

1CGS could clear all this up with one very simple clear and succinct statement.

Yet they refuse to do so. I do not find that attractive myself. If anything it is starting to cause me to sour a little on the franchise.

 

Don’t worry, they’re probably never going to tell you that they’re made a decision prior to being ready to make the formal announcement again.

[Gambit21]

5 hours ago, kestrel79 said:

 

 

My gut is it will be a "new" engine, but use existing models and data, and code from the current engine but on steroids. Sorta like what DCS has done. They've updated their engine a few times over the years, but it's still the same modules.

 

 

That's an amazing gut feeling, especially seeing as how that's basically exactly what Han said was going to happen with his vocal cords and lips.

 

 

?

 

[Guest deleted@83466]

Deep Fake

[Koziolek]

6 hours ago, Gambit21 said:

 

 

That's an amazing gut feeling, especially seeing as how that's basically exactly what Han said was going to happen with his vocal cords and lips.

 

 

?

 

I agree it will not be a completely new engine built from scratch - it is obvious from Han's words, but the question still remains how big the remake/update is going to be and if it is going to be compatible with the current modules

 

I think not, as they separate the content for GB series from the content of a new project

6. Establish partnerships with teams and enthusiasts who will help us in the development of the Great Battles world, as well as in the creation of content for the new project.

[Lusekofte]

This made me happy.