Game version 5.001 discussion: Battle of Normandy - RELEASED!

[Varibraun]

3 hours ago, Blitzen said:

Hmmm…I started a Typhoon 6th of June D-Day career last night & the first mission was a bombing sortie against a target near Utah Beach. Mission started late on that day( troops were already ashore,) but no invasion craft were to be seen& after a diversionary flight over Omaha I still saw no activity off shore. I was ,  however met with Luftwaffe fighters ….

 

2 hours ago, CountZero said:

i highly doubt there will be any mission with invasion fleet in career mod

 

No it's definitely there in career...someone else posted that if you start with the D-Day beginning of the BoN Career, you will miss the actual landing (I think he said that this was picked up in beta testing, but without enough time to get it corrected for release).  Anyway, I was doing a German side career with the pre-D-Day start and chose the rapid progression option which got me to morning of 6/6/44 pretty quickly.  Screenshots below of the landing underway:

 

 

 

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[Plurp]

4 minutes ago, Varibraun said:

 

 

No it's definitely there in career...someone else posted that if you start with the D-Day beginning of the BoN Career, you will miss the actual landing (I think he said that this was picked up in beta testing, but without enough time to get it corrected for release).  Anyway, I was doing a German side career with the pre-D-Day start and chose the rapid progression option which got me to morning of 6/6/44 pretty quickly.  Screenshots below of the landing underway:

 

 

 

 

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I have only seen it from the German side, no naval/beach activity from allied side.

Edited September 9, 2022 by Plurp

[Blitzen]

43 minutes ago, Plurp said:

I have only seen it from the German side, no naval/beach activity from allied side.

I guess I'll have to invent another Jerry to see the action...

[IRRE_Axurit]

Great job!!!
Anything new about fuel tanks and air marshalls?

[Avimimus]

1 hour ago, Blitzen said:

Hmmm…I started a Typhoon 6th of June D-Day career last night & the first mission was a bombing sortie against a target near Utah Beach. Mission started late on that day( troops were already ashore,) but no invasion craft were to be seen& after a diversionary flight over Omaha I still saw no activity off shore. I was ,  however met with Luftwaffe fighters ….

 

Yes, I had a similar experience. That said, it was with the AQMB - which I understand is more of a secondary feature. I decided it would be the fastest way to experience a V1  intercept, but was jumped by two flights of Fw-190A6 and Bf-109G14 fighting over the Channel!! They appeared to be winning. I then created a new mission but set the air opposition to the minimal setting and ...two enemy flights were still there, but this time the Luftwaffe was losing...

 

I assume the situation is better in the campaign mode - with the V1 hunting squadrons having almost no encounters with enemy fighters...

 

...but it did reinforce to me that those people who say that all missions should always have enemy aircraft ...are advocating for something which is pretty ahistorical and not that much fun for people focussing on V-1 hunting or ground attack  We really need an option for 'historic' enemy contact rates in campaigns... and at least some AQMB template tweaks would also be appreciated greatly.

[QB.Beno]

It's finally time to get the spitfire out of the hanger, re-install the game and destroy some German birds! Been waiting a long time for Normandy 

[Bilbo_Baggins]

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Damage Model Improvements
9. Aircraft DM: RHA equivalent of the aircraft skin has been reduced nearly three times to the previous (wrong) values.

 

Can someone please explain what 'RHA equivalent of aircraft skin' means? I don't know how rolled homogenous armor can be related to the plane skin DM modelling. 

 

Ta 

Edited September 9, 2022 by Bilbo_Baggins

[Spaz-505]

On 9/9/2022 at 7:41 AM, jollyjack said:

Post this on the bugs forum, might be seen by the fixers there easier. I reported LC and other missing mgm items there.

BTW the M272 and other firing points need a special setup;  i got them working thanks Tip's posted working group.

Hs 630_Group v2.zip 2.39 kB · 1 download

How did you get the M272s working?

 

*** Disregard, I was able to get them functioning... not sure why I couldn't before, working properly now!

Edited September 10, 2022 by Spaz-505
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[Varibraun]

Just finished my second FW109 BoN Career mission over the D-Day beaches and first I want to again complement all of the Team for creating something I never expected to see on the ground and at sea within the limits of the game engine.  Our mission was to hit Pointe du Huc...and oh boy what action there was there and at Omaha Beach (screenshots in the spoiler).  I can now tell you that 20mm does a number on both Higgins Boats and the poor Rangers that made it to the top of the cliffs.  I think we ended that assault, but the troops were still getting ashore at Omaha...there were Yanks, tanks, rockets, LSTs, destroyers and the German shore emplacements causing some mayhem on the fleet. 

 

It was all great fun in VR and I LOVED watching the replay and tabbing through all the action afterwards (i.e. the screenshots).  However, just like my first mission of D-Day the Allied air cover was nowhere to be seen inbound, outbound or at Normandy.  The Luftwaffe had free run over the entire map...so ensuring some Spitfires, P-38/47/51s make an appearance to make some intercepts is my one request for tweaking that crucial day in the BoN Career as things get refined post release.  That said, I have been having a blast...THANK YOU!! 

 

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Edited September 9, 2022 by Varibraun

[CountZero]

4 hours ago, Varibraun said:

 

 

No it's definitely there in career...someone else posted that if you start with the D-Day beginning of the BoN Career, you will miss the actual landing (I think he said that this was picked up in beta testing, but without enough time to get it corrected for release).  Anyway, I was doing a German side career with the pre-D-Day start and chose the rapid progression option which got me to morning of 6/6/44 pretty quickly.  Screenshots below of the landing underway:

 

 

 

 

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Dosent look impresive, and its fantasy where LW had clear skys, ill wait for user maid mission or MP versions, i dont expect mutch from career for d-day.

[Blitzen]

17 minutes ago, Varibraun said:

Just finished my second FW109 BoN Career mission over the D-Day beaches and first I want to again complement all of the Team for creating something I never expected to see on the ground and at sea within the limits of the game engine.  Our mission was to hit Pointe du Huc...and oh boy what action there was there and at Omaha Beach (screenshots in the spoiler).  I can now tell you that 20mm does a number on both Higgins Boats and the poor Rangers that made it to the top of the cliffs.  I think we ended that assault, but the troops were still getting ashore at Omaha...there were Yanks, tanks, rockets, LSTs, destroyers and the German shore emplacements causing some mayhem on the fleet. 

 

It was all great fun in VR and I LOVED watching the replay and tabbing through all the action afterwards (i.e. the screenshots).  However, just like my first mission the Allied air cover was nowhere to be seen inbound, outbound or at Normandy.  The Luftwaffe had free run over the entire map...so ensuring some Spitfires, P-38/47/51s make an appearance to make some intercepts is my one request for tweaking that crucial day in the BoN Career as things get refined post release.  That said, I have been having a blast...THANK YOU!! 

 

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Did you start your career on D-Day?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Jg52_wunsch]

 looks amazing,well done 

[Varibraun]

57 minutes ago, Blitzen said:

Did you start your career on D-Day?

 

 

No, I started in the 1st stage Pre D-Day Career "Preparing for the Invasion" and selected the "rapid" progression option, so it didn't take too long to get to 6/6, especially since I was wounded for a few days.  Evidently, starting the career on the D-Day "Operation Overlord" phase means that you miss the landing.  See the post below from @migmadmarine who was a tester.

 

 

[Avimimus]

2 hours ago, Bilbo_Baggins said:

Can someone please explain what 'RHA equivalent of aircraft skin' means? I don't know how rolled homogenous armor can be related to the plane skin DM modelling. 

 

Ta 

 

Well, the resistance of duraluminum, aluminium, fabric, and wood can all be converted to their equivalent resistance they would have if they were homogenous steel. So basically they are saying that they think of fabric in terms of fractions of a millimetre of steel when they code how much it can resist.

[Bilbo_Baggins]

3 minutes ago, Avimimus said:

 

Well, the resistance of duraluminum, aluminium, fabric, and wood can all be converted to their equivalent resistance they would have if they were homogenous steel. So basically they are saying that they think of fabric in terms of fractions of a millimetre of steel when they code how much it can resist.

 

Thank you kind sir. 

 

On another note, I really like the improved map load times! Wonder how they achieved that. 

[CUJO_1970]

23 hours ago, I./JG1_Baron said:

 

This looks like your IL2 is blocked by Antivirus. You have to set an exeption in the antivirus for il2.

 

Thanks, but that's not it. Using Kaspersky like always and never had any issues. Game will load, but not launch anything at all without CTD. Never had any issue with this game in 8 years and now it's unplayable for me unfortunately.

 

EDIT: was nvidia driver error

Edited September 10, 2022 by CUJO_1970

[Jaegermeister]

8 hours ago, Plurp said:

I have only seen it from the German side, no naval/beach activity from allied side.

 

Not true, you just have to be in the right place at the right time. I'll let you all figure it out.

 

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Edited September 10, 2022 by Jaegermeister

[Jaegermeister]

7 hours ago, Avimimus said:

Yes, I had a similar experience. That said, it was with the AQMB - which I understand is more of a secondary feature. I decided it would be the fastest way to experience a V1  intercept, but was jumped by two flights of Fw-190A6 and Bf-109G14 fighting over the Channel!! They appeared to be winning. I then created a new mission but set the air opposition to the minimal setting and ...two enemy flights were still there, but this time the Luftwaffe was losing...

 

I assume the situation is better in the campaign mode - with the V1 hunting squadrons having almost no encounters with enemy fighters...

 

With these settings, I can jump right in on V-1 Intercept missions with no interference from enemy fighters. I chased 3 or 4 the first time I flew it and did not see a single EAC.

 

 

[-332FG-SGTSAUSAGE138]

Good update, this is definitely a step in the right direction. The damage model isn't so lopsided anymore. I just bought the Normandy module for a few squad mates that don't have it and a few collector planes. Oh and the new map looks really nice as well! Looking forward to more improvements of the core game mechanics!

[FAW-Tromplamort]

Dont know if anyone has noticed but dynamic markings no longer work at least on Mosquito and Typhoon and Me410...

Haven't yet test other planes like P51s....

Edited September 10, 2022 by FAW-Tromplamort

[ScotsmanFlyingscotsman]

Congratulations and THANK YOU, I tried to chase a v1 in the Spit Xiv....little sod left me standing, but at least I was able to find it.

[BlitzPig_EL]

17 minutes ago, FAW-Tromplamort said:

Dont know if anyone has noticed but dynamic markings no longer work at least on Mosquito and Typhoon and Me410...

Haven't yet test other planes like P51s....

 

I posted about this earlier.  The dynamic markings don't work at all.

[I./JG1_Baron]

10 hours ago, CUJO_1970 said:

 

Thanks, but that's not it. Using Kaspersky like always and never had any issues. Game will load, but not launch anything at all without CTD. Never had any issue with this game in 8 years and now it's unplayable for me unfortunately.

 

EDIT: was nvidia driver error

 

Good to hear that you solved a problem ? Happy hunting ?

[Blitzen]

Good news ( for me) I did get to see part of the invasion fleet in a D-Day German career first mission!. I found that invasion craft could be easily blown up-YAY! I also found that I could almost as easily be shot down-BOO!

Now another question: How soon after DDay do squadrons ( in the sim that is,) move across the Channel to bases in France or do they? I wondered if I started an Allied career flying from an English base across all that water if with some luck we'd be moving closer to the action & a bit of Calvados??

[Jaegermeister]

46 minutes ago, Blitzen said:

Now another question: How soon after DDay do squadrons ( in the sim that is,) move across the Channel to bases in France or do they? I wondered if I started an Allied career flying from an English base across all that water if with some luck we'd be moving closer to the action & a bit of Calvados??

 

Many squadrons move across the channel at the beginning of Chapter 4, Battle for Caen - St. Lo. The Breakout from the Beachhead phase before that lasts almost a month, so how long that will take depends on your Campaign settings.

 

Some squadrons will stay in England and start running Diver Intercept missions at that point and may not move across the channel at all.

 

 

4 hours ago, BlitzPig_EL said:

 

I posted about this earlier.  The dynamic markings don't work at all.

 

That's correct, they aren't done yet.

 

Edited September 10, 2022 by Jaegermeister

[SkychaserGT]

Glad to see that Normandy is finally out. Could maybe someone fix the rain physics on the windshield please ? I fly real planes and helis, but the only time I get that effect is when I am standing still or taxiing are really slow speed, Above 70 knots, no need for wipers and rain does not fall down on the windshield following the rules of gravity at 100+ knots lol. It disperses away. in a dive, it move up and away vice versa in a climb and so on. Just like if you would use pressurized air a the car wash do dry your car. We use wipers on helis in really nasty weather while hovering or landing in confined areas when it's really pouring buckets. I don't even use my wipers in moderate rain above 140 kph lol. Thank you for coming through with Normandy.

I saw a video with Jason with a V1. Hope those will be coming too in quick missions and used by mission builders. Happy hunting everyone! Thank you 1C!  

[Trooper117]

4 hours ago, Tristan- said:

 

 

Great little video that... love the pilot animations and the metal effects on the Spit.

The only thing that spoilt it was at the start when the Typhoon taxied past sounding like a bloody Cessna, and nothing like the powerful Napier Sabre engine that it should have.

[Varibraun]

23 hours ago, Blitzen said:

Now another question: How soon after DDay do squadrons ( in the sim that is,) move across the Channel to bases in France or do they?

 

Check the unit history.  I switched to the 354th FG after losing my German pilot, and the unit history said they moved to Normandy on 6/22.  My career just advanced to 6/24 and, sure enough, we are now in France.  Thank you @LukeFF! 

Edited September 11, 2022 by Varibraun

[Roland_HUNter]

Half of the Hurris right wing cant be damaged.
Please check it.

[qwoi-*_]

i have a serious problem getting on to battle of normandy each time the game loads this just comes up 

vv annoying.

does anyone know what to do?

Edited September 10, 2022 by 12345690qwoi-*_

[LukeFF]

2 hours ago, SkychaserGT said:

I saw a video with Jason with a V1. Hope those will be coming too in quick missions and used by mission builders.

 

You can hunt V-1s right now in quick mission mode - just be sure to click the appropriate icon on the map (it's an RAF roundel). From there you can choose what sort of mission you want to fly.

[ImaginativeTruth]

Um, if I set quick mission to UK and enable all ground targets - the Germans appear in the UK??

 

Shouldn't they appear in France for us to fly over and shoot em up?

 

Its odd Battle for Normandy has any Axis forces showing in the UK in any mission (!)

[Vishnu]

2 words.  

[CountZero]

43 minutes ago, ImaginativeTruth said:

Um, if I set quick mission to UK and enable all ground targets - the Germans appear in the UK??

 

Shouldn't they appear in France for us to fly over and shoot em up?

 

Its odd Battle for Normandy has any Axis forces showing in the UK in any mission (!)

Its Quick Mission, it should work like that, you select point and targets are in that point, not 150km away, for that you can have real missions with AQM options (click on one of transparent icons and select what you wont as target and where), QM is not ment to be historical its for quick practice. I saw this type of question few times after BoN and dont understand how ppl expect this to not work like it works.

Edited September 10, 2022 by CountZero

[Jade_Monkey]

1 hour ago, ImaginativeTruth said:

Um, if I set quick mission to UK and enable all ground targets - the Germans appear in the UK??

 

Shouldn't they appear in France for us to fly over and shoot em up?

 

Its odd Battle for Normandy has any Axis forces showing in the UK in any mission (!)

Not very imaginative of you

[Jaegermeister]

50 minutes ago, Jade_Monkey said:

Not very imaginative of you

 

But Truthful... you knew it was going to come up.  

[Aleksander55]

Congratulations on the new release and I'm very thankfull for the quicker loading times and other improvements on my lowish system. Especially reloading missions was a marked improvement.

 

Instead of pacific I'd like to see later war russian airplanes. The reds need the LA-7, Yak-3, Yak-9U and P-63 to have a better chance against Normandy and Boddenplatte aircraft. Maybe something like a 'Bagration' pack.

[Gort]

On 9/7/2022 at 7:02 PM, Mysticpuma said:

It's a great looking map and great update. 

Would like to add to the request for hedges to be given consideration when the team have had a well earned rest ?

You are requesting that the scenery be rendered in black and white?

[ST_Catchov]

Oh very well then if I must.  For the greater good you understand.

 

I'll set up a hedge fund. Only donations above $10,000.00 accepted. Please click link below to donate.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[jollyjack]

13 hours ago, 12345690qwoi-*_ said:

i have a serious problem getting on to battle of normandy each time the game loads this just comes up 

vv annoying.

does anyone know what to do?

 

report it to Bugs etc, found another mgm missing, was acknowledged and will be fixed IMO.