-=PHX=-SuperEtendard Posted August 30, 2021 Posted August 30, 2021 @Jaws2002 Were there combats between Romanian Air Force and Luftwaffe after August 1944? which fighters did they use, I guess they had 109s and the IARs do you know if the G-6s they had were equipped with MW 50?
Jaws2002 Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 (edited) The fighter aircraft were the first to fight against Axis, starting in the evening of the Armistice. Romanian party leaders, together with the king and heads of the military arrested the Mareshal Antonescu and ordered Romanian military to stop fighting. First the Romanians weren't too interested to fight against their allies, but things quickly escalated. As soon as Hitler was informed of this treachery, he ordered Luftwaffe units from around Bucharest, to bomb the Capital. A bunch of Romanian fighter pilots, from multiple units took off and engaged the bombers, some scoring victories just hours from the armistice. After that it was open war. Very chaotic at first, because there were Axis units all over the place, but once the front line stabilized Romania was at war with Axis and they fought with what they had. First the IAR-80s did a lot of the fighting because the Romanian bf109s were shot at by the Russian AAA units, and the supply of spare parts, weapons and ammo for the German planes vanished over night. Later as the front moved west and Romanians captured more German spare parts, planes and weapons, the slow IAR's switched to ground attack and the air to air was taken over by BF109's. There are recorded kills of German planes by both the IAR81 units and BF109 units. Officially Romanians didn't have MW50 equipped planes, but as the front line moved west, they used whatever they could get their hands on. I've seen photos of captured late war 109's, but i don't remember exactly what versions. Edited August 31, 2021 by Jaws2002 1 2
Avimimus Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 4 hours ago, Pict said: A Brutish one...I mean British How does it go again? "In the state of nature, life was nasty, British, and short"? I think I have that right?? 4 hours ago, -=PHX=-SuperEtendard said: @Jaws2002 Were there combats between Romanian Air Force and Luftwaffe after August 1944? which fighters did they use, I guess they had 109s and the IARs do you know if the G-6s they had were equipped with MW 50? It sounds rather exciting, doesn't it?
Winkysmith Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 Getting back to the Mosquito for a sec, the bailout animation will be interesting to see!
SOLIDKREATE Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 The IAR-80 looks amazing and I see torpedoes so does this mean what I think it means? 5 2
Luftschiff Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 58 minutes ago, VA_SOLIDKREATE said: The IAR-80 looks amazing and I see torpedoes so does this mean what I think it means? Yes it does indeed: Pacific confirmed! 4 3
Pict Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 (edited) 10 hours ago, Avimimus said: How does it go again? "In the state of nature, life was nasty, British, and short"? I think I have that right?? As I understand it, the Thomas Hobbes quote you're aiming at was "In the state of nature, life was nasty, Brutish, and short", and this is logical as he died almost 40 years before union between Scotland & England was signed, making "British" somewhat of a rarity in the vocaulary of his time. Having the opportunity to look back from the other side of the British Empire, it is clear that he was what he was, a phylosopher and political commentator, rather than a historian of any realistic measure 9 hours ago, Winkysmith said: Getting back to the Mosquito for a sec, the bailout animation will be interesting to see! Couldn't they pop the top off in a Pe-2 esque manner?...or at least a part of it, rather than try to get out that tiny and awkwardly located hatch? Edited August 31, 2021 by Pict
HBPencil Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 1 hour ago, Pict said: Couldn't they pop the top off in a Pe-2 esque manner?...or at least a part of it, rather than try to get out that tiny and awkwardly located hatch? IIRC the emergency hatch on the canopy was only for use on the ground (I guess it was too small to fit through with a parachute?), bailing out while airborne was from the normal hatch. 1
1CGS LukeFF Posted August 31, 2021 1CGS Posted August 31, 2021 5 hours ago, VA_SOLIDKREATE said: The IAR-80 looks amazing and I see torpedoes so does this mean what I think it means? People keep conveniently forgetting that to have torpedoes on the Ju 88 also means making significant external and internal changes to the 3D model of the plane - including the modeling of the torpedo data computer. It isn't just a matter of "lol, torpedoes added, all good to go." 1 2 1
BlitzPig_EL Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 19 minutes ago, Vig said: Manhattan Project level of difficulty. Pe8 with FAB 5000 confirmed. 1
Guest deleted@83466 Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 32 minutes ago, LukeFF said: People keep conveniently forgetting that to have torpedoes on the Ju 88 also means making significant external and internal changes to the 3D model of the plane - including the modeling of the torpedo data computer. It isn't just a matter of "lol, torpedoes added, all good to go." That’s interesting about a torpedo data computer in airplanes. I had assumed that torpedo planes of that era just relied on the pilot to estimate the geometry by eye and experience. Do you mean some elaborate mechanical thing, or are you talking about some very simple handheld slider or whizwheel?
=621=Samikatz Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 4 minutes ago, SeaSerpent said: That’s interesting about a torpedo data computer in airplanes. I had assumed that torpedo planes of that era just relied on the pilot to estimate the geometry by eye and experience. Do you mean some elaborate mechanical thing, or are you talking about some very simple handheld slider or whizwheel? If I'm not mistaken, it should be this device installed in the cockpit https://www.deutscheluftwaffe.de/fl-xxx-torpedo-kommandogeraet-tokg-1b-1941 1 1
Guest deleted@83466 Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 (edited) I see…honestly I don’t have any opinion for or against torpedo planes in this game, but if they were ever to be included, I’d be ok with a 2D popup window for boxes like that with dials and controls similar to what we have on the bombardier’s screen. Edited August 31, 2021 by SeaSerpent
Pict Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 (edited) 4 hours ago, HBPencil said: (I guess it was too small to fit through with a parachute?) There's a thing, no point bailing without the silk Edited August 31, 2021 by Pict
Enceladus828 Posted August 31, 2021 Posted August 31, 2021 (edited) Will Romanian voices be added for the IAR-80/81? Edited September 1, 2021 by LukeFF
Guest deleted@83466 Posted September 1, 2021 Posted September 1, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, Enceladus said: Will Romanian voices be added for the IAR-80/81? No, they are only going to enable Romanian voices on Oct 31st, Halloween in USA. Edited September 1, 2021 by SeaSerpent
ShamrockOneFive Posted September 1, 2021 Posted September 1, 2021 (edited) On 8/31/2021 at 6:26 AM, VA_SOLIDKREATE said: The IAR-80 looks amazing and I see torpedoes so does this mean what I think it means? We already have torpedoes in IL-2 and have since the release of Battle of Kuban. So I wouldn't read into it too closely. As much as I'd love to see some torpedo equipped aircraft at some point! Edited September 1, 2021 by ShamrockOneFive
Feathered_IV Posted September 1, 2021 Posted September 1, 2021 On 9/1/2021 at 8:28 AM, Enceladus said: Will Romanian voices be added for the IAR-80/81? Maybe. They need to find a Romanian parrot first.
cardboard_killer Posted September 1, 2021 Posted September 1, 2021 I don't know. My Norwegian Blue is always pining for the fjords, so never says a thing. 2 1
Cleo9 Posted September 2, 2021 Posted September 2, 2021 (edited) Very pleased to see that the Romanian IAR80/81 will most probably be available sooner or later. Now, if I may say... I also appreciated the Italian Macchi202, but not as part of a German speaking squadron... Ok, devs, you want the game to be as realistic as can be, but an Italian squadron filled with German pilots only speaking German ?? Nope, it does not meet my expectations of what "historical" means.... Sadly, on that basis, I expect the incoming IAR squadrons to be... German squadrons, with German rankings and medals... Hmmmm... Better than nothing but... I remember the voice packs (mods) in 1946, they were incredible, and awards/promotions were historical. I'm not gonna compare those two games and I just love GB, but seriously ? Are you that serious , guys, about delivering historical careers/planes ?? I know my question may sound arrogant, but as I said, I love the game and I also want it to be... Historical... Fully historical, as much as can be... So if you are to offer an Italian plane : it should come with an Italian voice pack, Italian rankings and medals. Same thing for Romanian planes. It is as simple and as complicated as that... If you want to expand your "historical" perspective, put your money where your mouth is or just stick to what you already do well... With all due respect... Edited September 2, 2021 by Cleo9 3 1
ubik_2008 Posted September 2, 2021 Posted September 2, 2021 8 hours ago, Cleo9 said: Ok, devs, you want the game to be as realistic as can be, but an Italian squadron filled with German pilots only speaking German ?? Nope, it does not meet my expectations of what "historical" means.... I couldn't agree more. I'm not much of an Axis flyer, but even so an MC-202 career with German dialogues, names and decorations sounds very weird, and the same would apply to a Romanian career. The Italian package of IL2-1946 was not top notch - the voices were quite on the amateurish side, trust me, but they came from native speakers and, all in all, that was a worthy and somehow enjoyable effort. I'd say this aspect adds to the general lack of immersion, probably the only true weak point of GB 2 1
Jason_Williams Posted September 2, 2021 Posted September 2, 2021 I will eventually make an Italian pilot and voices. I did not build the 202 or make such decisions when it was under development. I also plan to make a Romanian pilot and voices and maybe More nations time permitting. Jason 14 14 5
Noisemaker Posted September 2, 2021 Posted September 2, 2021 10 minutes ago, Jason_Williams said: I will eventually make an Italian pilot and voices. I did not build the 202 or make such decisions when it was under development. I also plan to make a Romanian pilot and voices and maybe More nations time permitting. Jason I'd like to volunteer to do some Italian voices. I have a moustache. 6
Noisemaker Posted September 2, 2021 Posted September 2, 2021 9 minutes ago, Bremspropeller said: Scuzzi! Minchia, cazzo! I was here first.
ubik_2008 Posted September 2, 2021 Posted September 2, 2021 You cant speak italian just because you have a mustache ? Tu sei un pazzo vai via da qui? 3
Bremspropeller Posted September 2, 2021 Posted September 2, 2021 (edited) A river derchi! Edited September 2, 2021 by Bremspropeller 5
cardboard_killer Posted September 2, 2021 Posted September 2, 2021 I'm gonna make him an offer he can't refuse.
15[Span.]/JG51Costa Posted September 2, 2021 Posted September 2, 2021 I have hair on my chest.? If you want I can do voices in Spanish.? Saludos. 15(Span.)/JG51 Costa 1 2
Cpt_Cool Posted September 2, 2021 Posted September 2, 2021 You need hands more than a mustache to really speak Italian 2 1
BlitzPig_EL Posted September 2, 2021 Posted September 2, 2021 MC 200 to go along with the Italian voice acting please. 1 1
ITAF_Rani Posted September 2, 2021 Posted September 2, 2021 1 hour ago, Jason_Williams said: I will eventually make an Italian pilot and voices. I did not build the 202 or make such decisions when it was under development. I also plan to make a Romanian pilot and voices and maybe More nations time permitting. Jason Una bella pizza per Jason !! Bravo
Noisemaker Posted September 2, 2021 Posted September 2, 2021 54 minutes ago, Cpt_Cool said: You need hands more than a mustache to really speak Italian I've been asking for better pilot animations for a while now. 1
ST_Catchov Posted September 2, 2021 Posted September 2, 2021 Whatza matter for you! I canna speaka italian. Itza eeeazy. I maka da game a good fun. I donna havva him moustache onna my face buddy! Your woman, she notta like hahaha. Butta serious to him, you Jason guy, call me a PM. I make himma good like a the holly wood. 1 3
HartneyUS27 Posted September 2, 2021 Posted September 2, 2021 FC is fun, Besides what did the post have to do with the dolphins wing shedding lol. I know it was moved there. Chill dude it was a suggestion. - Regards
ilmavoimat Posted September 3, 2021 Posted September 3, 2021 (edited) 20 hours ago, Jason_Williams said: I will eventually make an Italian pilot and voices. I did not build the 202 or make such decisions when it was under development. I also plan to make a Romanian pilot and voices and maybe More nations time permitting. Jason Perhaps Buffalo Joe could do a voice pack for the C-47??? Edited September 3, 2021 by ilmavoimat
Avimimus Posted September 3, 2021 Posted September 3, 2021 (edited) 15 hours ago, Cleo9 said: J'offrirais bien ma voix, mais je suis Québecois, lol ?. Pas terrible pour Normandie-Niemen, ?. Comme on le dit ici : la seule chose qui nous sépare des Français, c'est la langue, haha. Pas tant la langue écrite que la langue parlée... De toute manière, la seule escadrille québécoise a été la 425 (RCAF), une escadrille de bombardiers qui a opéré en Afrique du Nord, en Italie, puis au-dessus de l'Allemagne (NWE) avec des Wellington, d'abord, puis des Halifax. Par contre, jusqu'à la fin de 1944, tous les ingénieurs de bord étaient Britanniques, comme dans toutes les escadrilles du groupe 6 (canadien). Ma voix demeure disponible quand même ? ?. J'imite bien l'accent des ch'ti, haha... Même celui de Paris, au final... I was thinking about 'Canadian' voices... and thought, yeah, one could include some of the expressions from the time and a couple of regional accents... but is it worth the effort? Then I thought of Québecois accents... and, well, a strong Québecois accent combined with a bit of the vernacular expressions and uniquely Québecois swearing... and you have something interesting and distinctive. I was dating someone from France and the terms 'blonde' and 'chum' came up... and she was talking about how romantic it was - and asking how I knew such archaic phrases from old medieval ballads... and I was like 'well, Québecois speak that way'. People often overstate how old some parts of Québecois language is, but there is at least some truth in it. Anyway, Canadien is quite a bit more charming than Canadian sometimes! :D So that is my vote (from someone who grew up on the border between Ontario and Québec). Edited September 3, 2021 by Avimimus 2
Cleo9 Posted September 5, 2021 Posted September 5, 2021 (edited) On 9/3/2021 at 4:29 PM, Avimimus said: I was thinking about 'Canadian' voices... and thought, yeah, one could include some of the expressions from the time and a couple of regional accents... but is it worth the effort? I don't not think that this is worth the effort, honestly, especially in the case of French Canadian accent (I am Québécois myself), because most people can't recognize it, even if they may have heard Céline Dion, Guy Laliberté or Denis Villeneuve talking. Also : there was only one French Canadian squadron in the RCAF, although many individual pilots served in other RAF / RCAF squadrons, including a few aces. I do remember that at some point, while playing Company of Heroes (SP), I heard a thick French Canadian accent and typical Québécois swearing (which can be disgraceful, haha), but that game was produced in Canada. In any case, I think that IL2 would benefit from French (European French, lol), Italian, Hungarian and Romanian voice packs. The fact that Jason mentioned that he is seriously considering Italian and Romanian voice packs is very promising and interesting. A lot of people commented on that and it shows that there is an interest among the IL2 community for such developments. A historical game should be as historical as possible... Regarding English Canadian voices... The use of British voices for RCAF squadrons is not necessarily very adequate. American voices might have been a better choice ? Not sure, I am not a native English speaker myself, but I am Canadian and I see more phonetic similarities between the English spoken, let's say, in New England, and the one spoken, let's say again, in Ontario. Edited September 5, 2021 by Cleo9
1CGS LukeFF Posted September 5, 2021 1CGS Posted September 5, 2021 32 minutes ago, Cleo9 said: Regarding English Canadian voices... The use of British voices for RCAF squadrons is not necessarily very adequate. American voices might have been a better choice ? Not sure, I am not a native English speaker myself, but I am Canadian and I see more phonetic similarities between the English spoken, let's say, in New England, and the one spoken, let's say again, in Ontario. You cannot have separate voices for the RCAF squadrons. It's one set of voice files for every country in the game, and so all RAF squadrons fall under the heading of Great Britain.
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