SYN_Vander BENCHMARK v6 to measure IL-2 performance in monitor & VR

[FoxbatRU]

16 часов назад, DBCOOPER011 сказал:

The link below is a pretty good guide on how to set up TVB if interested...

Thanks for the instruction. I will try to study. My processor runs in IL-2 at a frequency of 5.9 GHz for all cores. According to HWiNFO statistics, the frequency during operation does not drop below 5.9 GHz. But performance may be degraded due to hidden limits. In heavier loads, the cooling system is too noisy and starts throttling, so I turned off the E-cores and GE. Enabling them does not add anything to the performance of the IL-2 on my PC. I'll try to do it according to your instructions, maybe I'll improve the result.

[=SFG=BoostedStig]

On 3/24/2023 at 12:49 AM, =SFG=BoostedStig said:

Haven't had a chance to run the VR stuff yet, but will probably get around to it in a week or so.

 

Motherboard:     Asus ROG Strix X670E-F
CPU:                   AMD R9 7950X3D
CPU Freq:           5.7 Ghz (5 Ghz on X3D cores)
Cores:                 16  
Threads:             32  
RAM size:           32Gb (2x16GB)
RAM Freq:          6000 MHz (DDR5)
FCLK:                  2033 MHz 
RAM timings:      30-38-38-68 

GPU:                   Gigabyte Gaming OC 4090

Windows 10

 

1080P CPU Test:

2023-03-24 00:21:59 - Il-2
Frames: 9161 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 152.683 - Min: 133 - Max: 198

 

 

 

Got around to measuring VR performance. Although I did notice something silly in the testing. It seems the benchmark isn't running the same every single time. At least not identically. In one of the test runs, I actually had two planes mid-air collide with each other lol. It was dramatic to say the least, but I obviously scrapped that test result. I also skipped VR Test 1. 

 

Running OpenComposite for these with a Reverb G2 set to 100%

 

VR TEST 2:

2023-03-29 19:31:56 - Il-2
Frames: 5239 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 87.317 - Min: 76 - Max: 91

 

VR TEST 3:

2023-03-29 19:40:24 - Il-2
Frames: 3275 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 54.583 - Min: 45 - Max: 62

[RossMarBow]

On 3/29/2023 at 6:10 AM, FoxbatRU said:

Thanks for the instruction. I will try to study. My processor runs in IL-2 at a frequency of 5.9 GHz for all cores. According to HWiNFO statistics, the frequency during operation does not drop below 5.9 GHz. But performance may be degraded due to hidden limits. In heavier loads, the cooling system is too noisy and starts throttling, so I turned off the E-cores and GE. Enabling them does not add anything to the performance of the IL-2 on my PC. I'll try to do it according to your instructions, maybe I'll improve the result.

 

[chiliwili69]

On 3/28/2023 at 7:10 PM, FoxbatRU said:

My processor runs in IL-2 at a frequency of 5.9 GHz for all cores. According to HWiNFO statistics, the frequency during operation does not drop below 5.9 GHz

 

Thank you for your test. It is a little bit below the horendus test having almost same system on Mobo, RAM and CPU.

 

[chiliwili69]

On 3/30/2023 at 2:55 AM, =SFG=BoostedStig said:

VR TEST 2:

2023-03-29 19:31:56 - Il-2
Frames: 5239 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 87.317 - Min: 76 - Max: 91

 

VR TEST 3:

2023-03-29 19:40:24 - Il-2
Frames: 3275 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 54.583 - Min: 45 - Max: 62

 

Thank you for running the VR tests. They confirm the superb performance of that chip. Let see if the new 7800X3D is at the same level in IL-2 VR.

[FoxbatRU]

20 часов назад, chiliwili69 сказал:

Thank you for your test. It is a little bit below the horendus test having almost same system on Mobo, RAM and CPU.

Yes, I noticed. While I'm too lazy to configure my system more carefully. But perhaps it also plays a role in how the mission is played. It seems to me that sometimes the trajectories of the player's aircraft (at least) and the overtaking fighters are different. Plus, it also depends on which test is being run (first, second, etc.). I installed a new 4080 today and ran the test twice in a row. These figures cannot be taken into account, because. graphics and game settings are not the ones indicated on the first page.

But interestingly, in the first test it was like this: Frames: 9451 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 157.517 - Min: 108 - Max: 206

and in the second one like this: Frames: 9827 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 163.783 - Min: 143 - Max: 210

Moreover, at the end of the second test, when the player's IL-2 flew out of the visible area, he or the presenter collided with someone. And I saw torn-off rudders or shields from the IL-2 flying across the screen.

 

Edited April 2, 2023 by FoxbatRU

[DBCOOPER011]

17 hours ago, FoxbatRU said:

 

Moreover, at the end of the second test, when the player's IL-2 flew out of the visible area, he or the presenter collided with someone. And I saw torn-off rudders or shields from the IL-2 flying across the screen.

 

Yes, I seen a mid air collision once doing the CPU test. Strange..

[chiliwili69]

On 4/1/2023 at 11:54 PM, FoxbatRU said:

But interestingly, in the first test it was like this: Frames: 9451 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 157.517 - Min: 108 - Max: 206

and in the second one like this: Frames: 9827 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 163.783 - Min: 143 - Max: 210

Moreover, at the end of the second test, when the player's IL-2 flew out of the visible area, he or the presenter collided with someone. And I saw torn-off rudders or shields from the IL-2 flying across the screen

 

Yes, this benchmark is a mission created by @SYN_Vander, I believe the planes around are governed by AI which might not be perfect enough to avoid a collision from time to time.

 

Normally I run the benchmark three or four times in raw to see if the fps number are consistant. Sometimes you could have a puntual sttuter (look at min number) and the Avg number is affected. The state of the CPU is not always the same, and the way the Intel Turbo manage the frequency depends on temperatures and cores load. So, it is normal to have a noise around +1fps/+1fps in the CPU test. But differences higher than 5fps means one of the test has to be discarded (collision, or puntual sttuter, etc) as outliers. 

[biglouis]

Quick and dirty 7800 X3D CPU benchmark X2:

 

2023-04-18 18:30:54 - Il-2
Frames: 8732 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 145.533 - Min: 116 - Max: 190

 

2023-04-18 18:37:50 - Il-2
Frames: 8800 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 146.667 - Min: 123 - Max: 190

 

Specs

Win 11

RTX 4090 FE

7800 X3D stock settings

Gigabyte B650M DS3H (F5 BIOS)

32GB DDR5 5600mhz CL28-34-34-89 (EXPO profile)

 

Think it's all that matters!

 

Ofc latest version of il-2 as well.

Edited April 19, 2023 by biglouis

[chiliwili69]

3 hours ago, biglouis said:

7800 X3D

 

Hey!  Thanks for this test. First 7800X3D tested here. 

Results are good taking into account that this CPU clock is a bit below than their big brothers (7900X3D, 7950X3D)

Do you use VR?

[DBCOOPER011]

I just put in a 7800X3D in my system as well. Have around the same frame rates as Biglouis stock, but got a little more with tuned DDR5. It looks like my OC 13700K is better in the CPU test by a couple FPS, but the 7800X3D is better by a couple FPS with tuned DDR5 in VR Test 2. MSFS 2020 is much better with the 7800X3d...

 

CPU Test:

2023-04-15 09:47:28 - Il-2
Frames: 8852 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 147.533 - Min: 122 - Max: 195 Stock/XMP 6000Mhz

 

2023-04-18 17:31:04 - Il-2
Frames: 9187 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 153.117 - Min: 129 - Max: 197 CPU Test Tuned DDR5 6200Mhz/Curve Optimizer -20

 

VR Test 2 OpenXR:

2023-04-18 17:43:01 - Il-2
Frames: 5288 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 88.133 - Min: 74 - Max: 91 VR Test 2 Tuned DDR5 6200Mhz/Curve Optimizer -20

 

 

Specs

Win 11

RTX 4090 Gigabyte

7800 X3D stock and negative 20 curve optimizer settings

Gigabyte B650 Aorus Elite AX

32GB DDR5 6200 CL30 (EXPO profile), tightened timings

[biglouis]

16 hours ago, chiliwili69 said:

 

Hey!  Thanks for this test. First 7800X3D tested here. 

Results are good taking into account that this CPU clock is a bit below than their big brothers (7900X3D, 7950X3D)

Do you use VR?

Hey, I am actually a VR only player unfortunately I got new glasses last week that do not fit at all in my Quest 2 so I put VR on hold for now. I'm reluctant to use my old glasses just for that while I'm letting my eyes get used to the new ones.

 

I will find a solution for that very soon of course (a second pair of smaller glasses which would be covered by my insurance seems like the best idea, since VR lens inserts tend to become useless once you upgrade your VR headset to a different model..).

Edited April 19, 2023 by biglouis

[chiliwili69]

5 hours ago, DBCOOPER011 said:

Avg: 88.133 - Min: 74 - Max: 91 VR Test 2 Tuned DDR5 6200Mhz/Curve Optimizer -20

 

Hey!, quite informative tests. Could you also indicate the four timmings numbers we use in the sheet? just for the records. (BTW, what model of RAM do you use?)

Did you notice any other difference playing the game with respect the 13700K?

Any chance to run the VR test3?

[biglouis]

I added my ram timings now.

 

My exact kit is: https://www.gskill.com/product/165/393/1662622428/F5-5600J2834F16GX2-TZ5N

[DBCOOPER011]

6 hours ago, chiliwili69 said:

 

Hey!, quite informative tests. Could you also indicate the four timmings numbers we use in the sheet? just for the records. (BTW, what model of RAM do you use?)

Did you notice any other difference playing the game with respect the 13700K?

Any chance to run the VR test3?

 

The VR3 test result and DDR5 timings I use are below and using GSkill 6000mhz ram. TBH, I don't see any difference between the 7800X3D and the 13700KF in IL2. Both run the Game in VR using my Reverb G2 at a constant 90FPS.

 

2023-04-19 06:38:14 - Il-2
Frames: 3078 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 51.300 - Min: 44 - Max: 59

 

Edited April 19, 2023 by DBCOOPER011
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[chiliwili69]

17 hours ago, DBCOOPER011 said:

Both run the Game in VR using my Reverb G2 at a constant 90FPS.

 

2023-04-19 06:38:14 - Il-2
Frames: 3078 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 51.300 - Min: 44 - Max: 59

Thanks for running this VRtest3.

 

The RAM model (Gskill F5-6000J3238F16GX2) is identical to the one I purchased for my new 78000X3D as well. I have zero experience in RAM tunning, but if these numbers work for you I hope they will work as well for me.

I already have my new Mobo-CPU-RAM, but no time rigth now to do the upgrade. In two weeks time I will do it, and hope to have similar performance with my Index and 3080.

[DBCOOPER011]

19 hours ago, chiliwili69 said:

Thanks for running this VRtest3.

 

The RAM model (Gskill F5-6000J3238F16GX2) is identical to the one I purchased for my new 78000X3D as well. I have zero experience in RAM tunning, but if these numbers work for you I hope they will work as well for me.

I already have my new Mobo-CPU-RAM, but no time rigth now to do the upgrade. In two weeks time I will do it, and hope to have similar performance with my Index and 3080.

 

No problem, those DDR5 settings are pretty mediocre, so it should run stable. The CPU however can peak pretty hot. I have a fairly beefy custom loop and with my cores at -20 curve optimizer, I'm peaking at around the mid 80's during an IL2 session in VR. It's not running that hot on average, but I barely hit 70C with the 13700KF if recall correctly..

 

 

[RossMarBow]

On 4/21/2023 at 3:14 PM, DBCOOPER011 said:

 

No problem, those DDR5 settings are pretty mediocre, so it should run stable. The CPU however can peak pretty hot. I have a fairly beefy custom loop and with my cores at -20 curve optimizer, I'm peaking at around the mid 80's during an IL2 session in VR. It's not running that hot on average, but I barely hit 70C with the 13700KF if recall correctly..

 

 

 

For modern CPU temp just does not matter much anymore for gaming.

 

Both amd and intel processers run at max single core speed in "auto" mode.
So you are looking at roughly 75w on either, which isn't an issue cooling wise.

[Voxman]

After a couple of years in hiatus since I posted last in this thread,  with a lot of life changes, I've finally got back into the game.  I have the same CPU as I did back in Dec 2020, and had just gotten an RX 5700 XT card, prior to the data mining, and all that fiasco stuff... but now I've upgraded the video card, but not any of the RTX 40 cards. 

 

I recently bought a G2 headset, and running it with the RX 5700 XT card was, well a bit of a wow factor at first, then steadily disappointing. So looking at GPUs and their still insane prices, I bit the bullet on a Zotec RTX3080 ti, that was on sale, and was the right price for me. I know, I was almost halfway there for a 4080 or 90, but I just couldn't stomach the prices...especially as I'm an AMD GPU man for about 20 years.  And, even though AMD has made better strides with VR, I was very familiar with Nvidia's product from my previous employer that had VR workstations centered on their product.

 

Anyway here's my system specs ( I also got a new Mobo around Feb 21 as the old mobo was problematic).

 

Motherboard: MSI MPG Z490 Gaming plus  
 CPU:                 i7-10700K (Hyperthreading off in bios)
 CPU Freq:        5 Ghz (OC)
 L3 cache:        16 MB
 Cores:               8
 Threads:           8
 RAM type:        DDR4
 RAM size:        16Gb (2X8GB)
 NB Freq:          3866 (Try it feature in BIOS)
 RAM Freq:        4600
 RAM timings:  14-15-15-36 747 (Try it feature as well)
 GPU:          Zotac RTX3080ti

 

I had to dial back the memory (they are Patriot 4400) as one of the sticks seemed to have issues in Prime95 when running in either XMP setting, and I had gone beyond my warranty period, so I couldn't send it back.

 

CPU test 1
2023-08-10 16:24:37 - Il-2
Frames: 5724 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 95.400 - Min: 86 - Max: 101

 

VRtest 1
2023-08-10 16:55:37 - Il-2
Frames: 3169 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 52.817 - Min: 44 - Max: 64

 

VRtest2
2023-08-10 17:01:05 - Il-2
Frames: 3083 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 51.383 - Min: 44 - Max: 67

 

VRtest3
2023-08-10 17:06:09 - Il-2
Frames: 2643 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 44.050 - Min: 34 - Max: 52

 

 

Edited August 11, 2023 by Voxman

[chiliwili69]

On 8/12/2023 at 1:46 AM, Voxman said:

I know, I was almost halfway there for a 4080 or 90, but I just couldn't stomach the prices.

Thank you for this test.

It clearly show that your CPU is your current bottleneck for VR. (VR1 and VR2 test has basically same results).

The 3080ti is a very good card for your G2, I don´t think you need more than that for the G2 using the right settings (avoid MSAA).

What was the game version when you did the test?

[Voxman]

6 hours ago, chiliwili69 said:

What was the game version when you did the test?

5.105

 

6 hours ago, chiliwili69 said:

It clearly show that your CPU is your current bottleneck for VR. (VR1 and VR2 test has basically same results).

 

That may be the next upgrade item, but keeping the same mobo at this time.

[1Sascha]

I did quite a lot of hardware-updates since I last ran the benchmark. Sadly, my new (2nd hand, lol) G2's cable had croaked on me about 10 days ago and I only received a brand new one from a buddy just today (for €25 ... guess I got lucky! ? ).

Anyway: I just re-ran the VR test but since I want to get to flying a bit now, I'll do the two non-VR runs sometime later this week.

 

Note: HW-Upgrades are marked by struck text, just so you can see what changed.

 

My Specs:
 Motherboard: MSI MAG Z690 Tomahawk Wifi DDR4
 CPU: Intel i5-12600K  Intel i7-14700KF - stock (thing gets a bit toasty with my 240mm AiO and if I set power-limits to default, which is "no limits" on my board.. ) ?
 CPU Freq: P-cores max in VR test1: 5.5 GHz
 L3 cache: 33 MB
 Cores: 8P + 12E = 20
 Threads: 28
 RAM type: Corsair Vengeance Pro RGB, 3600 DDR4  G.Skill Trident Z RGB 3600 CL16 DDR4 - (XMP is on)
 RAM size:  2x16 GB, dual channel

^ My former config of 4x8 GB Corsair RAM seemed to have caused system instability - kits were identical but bought separately. Guess now I know why one shouldn't do that ... or perhaps it was because I had 4 DIMM slots populated, who knows?)
 

NB Freq: 3600 MHz
RAM Freq: 3600 MHz
RAM Latency:  CL16 - Timings: 16 - 19 - 19 - 39 (XMP-profile)
GPU: Gigabyte RTX 3070 Eagle OC LHR. Gigabyte RTX 4070 Gaming OC, manually OCed, max frequ. during run: 2940 MHz core, 11502 MHz memory (effective).

 

VR Set: Oculus Rift-S HP Reverb G2, V1 (I think... bought it 2nd hand.. ).

 

OS: Win 11 Pro

 

 

Result VR1:

2023-10-30 21:45:03 - Il-2
Frames: 3463 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 57.717 - Min: 50 - Max: 67

 

Probably should add that with my own VR-settings and at 70% scaling (resulting in the same VR-res as set in the test), the CPU-upgrade seems to have added quite a bit of smoothness and playability to the game in SP-mode. Hard to put my finger on it, but so far, QM with max planes around resulted in steady 90 FPS, no hiccups and surprisingly easy spotting. I was switching between 60 and 90 Hz before, chasing the sweet spot, but now I might actually stick with 90 Hz-mode and turn my icons off ... ?

 

I did check HWInfo and the CPU never drew more than 75 Watts during the VR-benchmark-run, so I don't think I should've upped my power-limits for it. Right now, the chip runs at PL1 253 and PL2 270W and current limit is set to 360A. I also reduced MSI's automatic Vcore/VID-offset ("CPU Lite Load", I think that's what it does, anyway) to drop voltages. Before, the CPU reported VIDs of up to 1.45/6V under heavy, all-core load. Now it's down to 1.34 - 1.37V. That "Lite Load"-function set to default seems very generous when adding core-voltage. Default setting on my board was 9 and I dropped it to 5. I might be able to get away with a lower setting without losing stability, but I haven't tried that yet.

 

I had experimented with higher power-limit settings and Cinebench 2024 yesterday but I found that raising those settings higher would only result in much higher core-voltages, more heat and power draw of up to 340 Watt - without giving me any marked improvement in CB-score. So I went with the lower setting to go easy on the chip and my electricity-provider.. ?

 

 

I am running OpenXR, BTW.

 

 

 

S.

 

 

Edited November 2, 2023 by 1Sascha

[1Sascha]

CPU Test result:

 

2023-10-31 23:08:10 - Il-2
Frames: 7888 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 131.467 - Min: 111 - Max: 176

 

 

.... and, again, just for shits and giggles since I don't have a 4k-display, I ran the 4K GPU test at 1440p. Did set DLS to 4K, thinking that might help, but I'm not even sure it worked properly.. ?

 

GPU results (1440p/DLS to 4k):

 

2023-10-31 23:23:12 - Il-2
Frames: 11163 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 186.050 - Min: 159 - Max: 246

 

 

S.

 

[chiliwili69]

On 10/30/2023 at 10:11 PM, 1Sascha said:

Intel i7-14700KF - stock

 

Thank you for submitting the first test with a 14th gen intel CPU.

 

What was the version of IL-2 when you run the test?

 

The GPU test is not updated in the table since the performance is not the same than running a real 4K screen.

[1Sascha]

8 hours ago, chiliwili69 said:

The GPU test is not updated in the table since the performance is not the same than running a real 4K screen.

Yeah ... I only did that test for myself and included the result here because ... I had it..

 

8 hours ago, chiliwili69 said:

What was the version of IL-2 when you run the test?

Too tired to start the game to get the exact version number right now. But I am on the Steam-version and according to Steam the game last got updated on Oct 26th, 2023.

 

I probably should also have mentioned that while I ran/am running the CPU at stock settings, I did not use unlimited power-settings. PL1 and PL2 were at 253/270 W, current max to 360A and, most importantly I think, I reduced the VCore auto-offset added by my board ("CPU Lite Load" on my MSI board) by quite a bit.

 

Reason is, as mentioned, that this thing runs pretty hot with unlimited PLs and I don't feel like upgrading my 240 AiO to a 360 ... yet. It's not a real undervolt I'm running (I think), but a prevention of unnecessarily high VCore/VID, because the system runs stable without the added extra-voltage and CPU benchmark scores are virtually identical with or without power-limits. Only difference is that with no limits and higher VCore auto-offset, the CPU will run really hot and power-hungry.

 

With complete stock settings (including power settings/limits/offset) it would draw up to 340 Watts peak and a few P-cores hit 100°C in Cinebech... ?

 

 

 

S.

 

[chiliwili69]

I have just made the VR1 and VR2 tests with the Quest3 using the USB QuestLink cable:

 

VR1 test:

90Hz SteamVR:128% 2116x2280 9.64Mpixels
Frames: 3265 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 54.417 - Min: 43 - Max: 91
Frames: 3027 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 50.450 - Min: 42 - Max: 91
Frames: 3082 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 51.367 - Min: 42 - Max: 91

 

VR2Test:
90Hz SteamVR:260% 3016x3248 19.59Mpixels
Frames: 2729 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 45.483 - Min: 40 - Max: 63

 

It is quite inferior to the results of the Index:

 

 

In any case, in the 72Hz mode and using my usual IL-2 settings 150% SS, High settings, hig shadows, high clouds the experience is smooth and always at 72fps.

[chiliwili69]

I recorded a video of the VR1 test with the Quest3 using QuestLink and StreamVR frametimes graph.

Clearly the bottleneck is my CPU, a 7800X3D with 240 AIO Liquid cooling.

 

It looks like the CPU is more busy managing the data of the codified video...

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NmRI0CgSL5Jr41ShHF92KwGGCVrlLfd7/view?usp=sharing

 

[354thFG_Drewm3i-VR]

@LukeFF Can you pin this thread? Had to go digging for it...

On 11/11/2023 at 4:32 AM, chiliwili69 said:

I recorded a video of the VR1 test with the Quest3 using QuestLink and StreamVR frametimes graph.

Clearly the bottleneck is my CPU, a 7800X3D with 240 AIO Liquid cooling.

 

It looks like the CPU is more busy managing the data of the codified video...

 

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NmRI0CgSL5Jr41ShHF92KwGGCVrlLfd7/view?usp=sharing

 

Interesting and thanks for sharing as I'm considering a Quest 3 vs. my Reverb G2 on a 3080. 

 

@SYN_Vander Have the issues with AMD GPUS in VR been resolved? A 7900 XTX or XT is a much better value than a 4080 and up, but only if it isn't still suffering in IL-2 VR.

[DBCOOPER011]

Built a 12600KF/4070 computer for my daughter. Below are the CPU and Vr tests done..

 

Motherboard: ASRock Z690 Phantom Gaming 4/D5
 CPU:        12600KF
 CPU Freq:   4.9 Ghz
 Cores:      6 (4 ecores)
 Threads:    12
 RAM size:   32Gb (2x16GB)
 RAM Freq:   2992.7 MHz
 NB Freq:    3591.2 MHz
 RAM timings:32-38-38-96
 GPU:        4070

2023-12-06 19:59:09 - Il-2
Frames: 7323 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 122.050 - Min: 103 - Max: 168 CPU-Test

2023-12-06 20:20:21 - Il-2
Frames: 3684 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 61.400 - Min: 51 - Max: 84 VR-Test 1

2023-12-06 20:38:01 - Il-2
Frames: 3377 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 56.283 - Min: 49 - Max: 70 VR Test 2

[chiliwili69]

On 12/7/2023 at 6:01 AM, DBCOOPER011 said:

Built a 12600KF/4070 computer for my daughter. Below are the CPU and Vr tests done

lucky daughter!

What VR Headset?  Crystal?

[DBCOOPER011]

On 12/10/2023 at 11:23 AM, chiliwili69 said:

lucky daughter!

What VR Headset?  Crystal?

The tests were done stock with a HP-G2. Gonna make her my wso in the other sim when the F4 comes out...

[chiliwili69]

3 hours ago, DBCOOPER011 said:

Gonna make her my wso in the other sim when the F4 comes out..

You are a lucky she likes planes! When she will try the crystal she will want another for her...  ?

I have a 12yr daugther and a 16yr son and perhaps one day they will get interest on flight sims, it would be the only game I could be competitive with them...

[chiliwili69]

With the new release of IL-2  v5.201 and the multiple ways to run the Quest3, I wanted to compare them and this is what I obtained:

 

CPU test (Just monitor with FullHD, settings to load CPU)
Frames: 8775 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 146.250 - Min: 119 - Max: 197
Frames: 8691 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 144.850 - Min: 125 - Max: 192
Frames: 8654 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 144.233 - Min: 122 - Max: 194

 

GPU test (just monitor with 4K, settings to load GPU)
Frames: 7718 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 128.633 - Min: 106 - Max: 164
Frames: 7716 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 128.600 - Min: 106 - Max: 166
Frames: 7721 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 128.683 - Min: 105 - Max: 165

 

All VR tests for Meta Quest3 at 90Hz. The wifi test (Airlink, VD & SteamLink) used a Wifi5 router with limited bandwidth around 150Mbps

 

VR1 TESTS: aorund 9.5Million pixels

 

QuestLink (USB) with SteamVR
Frames: 3263 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 54.383 - Min: 42 - Max: 91
Frames: 3316 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 55.267 - Min: 43 - Max: 91
Frames: 3275 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 54.583 - Min: 42 - Max: 91

 

VirtualDesktop (Ultra, HEVC-10bit, 200Mbps) with SteamVR
Frames: 2916 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 48.600 - Min: 36 - Max: 91
Frames: 2721 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 45.350 - Min: 36 - Max: 76 

 

Airlink dynamic bitrate with SteamVR
Frames: 3325 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 55.417 - Min: 43 - Max: 91
Frames: 3240 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 54.000 - Min: 43 - Max: 91

Airlink fixed bitrate 200Mbps with SteamVR
Frames: 3089 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 51.483 - Min: 40 - Max: 91

 

Steamlink max bitrate 
Frames: 4321 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 72.017 - Min: 56 - Max: 91
Frames: 4351 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 72.517 - Min: 59 - Max: 91

VR2 TESTS: aorund 19.5Million pixels

 

QuestLink (USB) with SteamVR
Frames: 2789 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 46.483 - Min: 42 - Max: 72
Frames: 2781 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 46.350 - Min: 41 - Max: 76
Frames: 2774 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 46.233 - Min: 42 - Max: 79

 

VirtualDesktop (Ultra, HEVC-10bit, 200Mbps) with SteamVR
Frames: 2689 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 44.817 - Min: 36 - Max: 46
Frames: 2690 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 44.833 - Min: 36 - Max: 46

 

Steamlink max bitrate 
Frames: 3350 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 55.833 - Min: 46 - Max: 64
Frames: 3319 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 55.317 - Min: 46 - Max: 62

 

I normally use the 72Hz mode to have more room on the CPU, and at this mode the best experience in terms of smoothness is QuestLink.

On the wireless options the best experience is with VirtualDesktop. The Airlink is not smooth. And the Steamlink problem is the degraded resolution on the edges, even at maximun bit rate.

BTW, from today I have a new router with a Wifi bandwidth of 550Mbps, I will try again the Virtual Desktop tests to see if they improve.

[Dustybritches]

Motherboard: MSI PRO X670-P
CPU: Ryzen 7 7800X3D SMT ON
CPU Freq: 4850 Mhz
Cores: 8
Threads: 16
RAM: 32 GB
RAM Freq: 6000 Mhz
NB Freq: 3000  Mhz
RAM timings: 32 38 38 96
GPU: XFX 7900XTX (Low bios switch 400W Max)HIGH=450W Max
Headset: Pimax 5K Super

 

2024-01-02 20:46:54 - Il-2
Frames: 8321 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 138.683 - Min: 115 - Max: 184    (1080P)       (GPU 157W)

2024-01-02 21:37:15 - Il-2
Frames: 4499 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 74.983 - Min: 65 - Max: 91        (VR1)            (GPU 257W)

2024-01-02 21:46:53 - Il-2
Frames: 4691 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 78.183 - Min: 69 - Max: 91        (VR2)             (GPU 325W)

2024-01-02 21:53:19 - Il-2
Frames: 2800 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 46.667 - Min: 43 - Max: 50         (VR3)           (GPU 405W)

 

Optimum GPU power target for this GPU is 355-365 Watts. This power level allows the GPU to sustain it's highest core and memory speeds indefinitely with a proper fan speed profile thus providing the best experience possible. Yes the cards boost algorithm is odd as AMD GPU's have always been but if tuned properly the 7900XTX can really git er done.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[chiliwili69]

10 hours ago, Dustybritches said:

CPU: Ryzen 7 7800X3D SMT ON

 

Thanks for running this both AMD CPU+GPU combination.

 

 

[-332FG-Cue-Ball]

On 12/21/2023 at 10:47 AM, chiliwili69 said:

With the new release of IL-2  v5.201 and the multiple ways to run the Quest3, I wanted to compare them and this is what I obtained:

This is interesting info. I recently moved from the Index to the Quest 3 and have been going back and forth between Steam Link and Virtual Desktop. I find Steam Link to be a lot simpler to just get in and start playing, but Virtual Desktop has a lot more that can be tweaked. 

I realize that Steam Link does foveation by default, so that the edges aren't as sharp, but based on your results here, it does give a big improvement. And, frankly, the lower resolution around the edges still looks way better than non-foveated image on the Index. I'm going to do some experiments, but so far I think Steam Link is the better solution for anyone without a top of the line rig, where the extra 10fps can really help.

[LuftManu]

Hello guys,

 

Motherboard:     Asus ROG Maximus Hero Z790 

BIOS:                  2002
CPU:                   Intel Core I9 14900K
CPU Freq:           6.3 Ghz ( 2x Pcores) 
Cores:                 24
Threads:             32  
RAM size:           64Gb (2x32GB)
RAM Freq:          7000 MHz (DDR5) XMP3
RAM timings:      34-45-45-108

GPU:                   Asus Strix Nvidia RTX 4090 Custom Bios (HOF Bios)

Windows 11

 

1080P CPU Test:

2024-03-05 17:25:55 - Il-2
Frames: 10118 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 168.633 - Min: 138 - Max: 207

 

Spoiler

 

Kind regards,

[chiliwili69]

4 hours ago, LuftManu said:

Intel Core I9 14900KS

 

What a beautiful PC.

 

Thanks for posting, any chance to run the other 4K and VR benchs?

 

How did you manage to get a CPU (KS) which is still not in the market??  ?

 

[LuftManu]

9 minutes ago, chiliwili69 said:

 

What a beautiful PC.

 

Thanks for posting, any chance to run the other 4K and VR benchs?

 

How did you manage to get a CPU (KS) which is still not in the market??  ?

 

Oops! My finger must have slipped on that extra S! ?

 

Will try to run Quest 3 this weekend. 

Kind regards,

[LuftManu]

Hey guys,

Back here with new setup (And also some Quest 3 shenanigans).

First of all, VR is great but had some issues with Windows. I didn't do a bench as it was unstable with the memory OC but ended up being Software related issues (Sigh).

 

I am now running Quest Pro and no issues and a new MOBO will try to do in the future but sadly, due to health issues I am unable to enjoy VR. (People take care of your eyes!)

 

I upgraded my ram and jumped from 64 gigs to 48 at highter speed. I had fears of DCS with 48 not being enough, but surprisingly it is and also the speed is benefitial on an Intel. I am hitting a wall with 7600 on this Mobo tho.

From the other hand, managed to grab a golden 14900KS. SP112 - P124 - E90 and MC 92! 
WIth an average of near 90SPs on other chips this is a great one!

Bumped to 6.4 single core. Some undervolt and keeping the temps and amps on check.

LL4 - 1.02 and 353W limit with 400 Amps limit. ASUS MCE Off.

So far, the old system was running godly. But this time I saw a great difference in lows and stability. The increased ram speed bumped not only lows but also helped in max FPS alongside a better cooled KS (Pullin a little bit more Ws tho).

 

Motherboard:     Asus ROG Dark Hero Z790 

BIOS:                  1302
CPU:                   Intel Core I9 14900KS
CPU Freq:           6.4 Ghz ( 2x Pcores) 
Cores:                 24
Threads:             32  
RAM size:           48Gb (2x24GB) Corsair Dominator Titanium 2x24 7200Mhz. (Really happy with this kit)
RAM Freq:          7600 MHz (DDR5) Manual OC at 1.45V
RAM timings:      37-46-46-96

GPU:                   Asus Strix Nvidia RTX 4090 Custom Bios (HOF Bios)

Windows 11

 

 

2024-06-18 13:11:28 - Il-2
Frames: 11305 - Time: 60000ms - Avg: 188.417 - Min: 153 - Max: 242

 

 

 

All of this said, I don't feel confortable running so much W on the GPU and the CPU for the extra % performance.
At least now that I am on 2D.

Luckly I'm using a H++ connector on the 4090, but I don't want to risk it.